Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

member_20292 · Post by **member_20292** » 17 Oct 2012 12:47

major sahib...wherever you are...your majorly profound website is not working broberly.

why?

the scrolling down can only be done on the current article being displayed.

if i want to access something from september 2011, I have to shrink the text size for the sept 2011 link to come up..i cant scroll down to it.

second, there is no older posts newer posts clicker in your blog.

kyaaa yaar? itne maje se main padh raha tha main!

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 17 Oct 2012 12:52

^^Post in pakdef. Major saab is apparently a senior member there. He might be one of the Syed type lurkers here.

partha · Post by **partha** » 17 Oct 2012 13:07

http://dawn.com/2012/10/16/howzzat-boll ... nd-sports/

Wouldn’t India’s 1983 World Cup triumph or Pakistan’s 1992 victory, the pace battery of Imran Khan-Sarfraz Nawaz or the batting resilience of Sunil Gavaskar-Gundappa Vishwanath make great films?

Who is this author Gautham Chintamani who thinks Indian audience would pay to watch a movie on Pak's 1992 WC victory or a movie on IK-Sarfraz Nawaz's bowling? What next? A movie on Pakistani squash champion?

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 17 Oct 2012 13:14

movie about jin-ah

partha · Post by **partha** » 17 Oct 2012 13:38

So Pak army will launch operation in NWA and clear out Taliban right? LOL

member_20292 · Post by **member_20292** » 17 Oct 2012 14:00

^^ it can't. There is no, "we are taliban" "attack me" sign painted there.

The populace becomes the talibs becomes the peace loving goat herders.

Maximum you can do is to achieve a Mumbai underworld type subjugation of operations.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 17 Oct 2012 14:09

Unless as R-man speculated, Unkil has Paki testimonials in their hands, Pakis are not going to attack.

Ombaba has said in no uncertain terms that US will be withdrawing in 2014. Romney doesnt seem to have a problem with it. Massa public has no apetite for war and Unkil has run out of money. The token NATO presence wants to wind up. Afghan army is beset with desertion and incompetence. In this scenario, Pakis will bet on the taliban.

One thing you can be sure about the Pakis is that, *they always support terrorists*. Name one country with whom they have a normal political relationship? (I dont include GUBO). The only relationship they have is some paki group or other involved in terror attacks.

Why would Pakis attack the taliban now? All it does is to strengthen Karzai who has explicitly stated that he doesnt recognize the durrand line. Plus afghans I am sure remember what Pakis did to them and are itching to repay. Balochistan will become unsustainable, FATA will split and join Afghanistan. The only course of action for Pakis is to have their proxies either in power or fighting in Afghanistan as a "forward policy" to protect their underbelly.

What Pakis might do is conduct an "operation" where they destroy traditional tribal hierarchies which are inmical to the talibs to put talibs firmly in power. If Ashphuck dares to raise a finger against the talibs, he will be bull cattled by his own jernails and kernails. Placing Imran in power is to negotiate baksheesh while having a political cover to do nothing against the talibs.

Trust me on this: They will call for a grand jirga and sign a peace treaty and claim they are doing exactly what Massa wants to do in Afghanistan.

member_20292 · Post by **member_20292** » 17 Oct 2012 15:28

^^^

but arent the TSPA already fighting the buggers in FATA? I mean....Talibaaps keep rolling TSPA heads and displaying them.

SO fight is on I say. But TSPA will not do a FINAL THRUST type action in the mountains. Because it involves what would ultimately amount to a solid ethnic cleansing massacre like in the Arab lands.

Like I said. Talibs are ephemera.....they goat herd by day and smile for the tourists, plant rice and wheat and watch kyonki saas bhi kabhi bahu thi. And these Talib networks are flexible. So....what will the TSPA go after, anyways?

member_20292 · Post by **member_20292** » 17 Oct 2012 15:30

The Talibs are not going anywhere for the next 100 years. Massa wants someone to come in and civilize them and to mend their ways to the innocent and the good.

India is the prime candidate. But I say we avoid doing this at all. Just let the buggers be. Wall up and man the fences and we continue doing what we do.

negi · Post by **negi** » 17 Oct 2012 15:50

krishnan wrote:movie about jin-ah

Will they show him eating a pork sausage ?

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 17 Oct 2012 15:57

Anujan-mullah, by this time TSPA must know that the Talibs only love the TSPA the way a bangkok whore loves her customer of the day. Far worse, the whore does not have an ideology or a nationalistic zeal, both of which Talibs have. Which means they hate TSP/TSPA. The Talibs know how far TSPA can go to double deal, cheat and talk with forked tongue...I bet they have their knives out for them. The so called Durand line was never confirmed or accepted by Talibs too - that was when they were much more at TSPA's mercy than they will be when Unkil is off their back..

I think if Talibs take over Afghan, they will perhaps wait a year or so, build bridges with Iran, perhaps even India and become yet another thorn in the flesh of TSPA. They will, of course, support their ex-comrades, the TTP, who are genuinely green, and not fake-green like TSPA. Whether or not they go after Pashtun lands in TSP itself will of course, depend on how firmly they are in power in Kabul and how little they need TSPA but I suspect it will not be much. After all, once Unkil washes his hands off this septic tank and there is no oil there, what is left is Taliban, TSPA, various jehadi groups, India, Iran and guess who is the isolated party here?

I think India shold tell Talibs they are with them, provided they dont mess with us, and provided they dont mess with our allies (non Pashtuns) who are also nationalistic anyway. With that they can have a blank cheque for whatever they do inside TSP.

member_20292 · Post by **member_20292** » 17 Oct 2012 16:03

^^^ India will do that by supplying money arms and training to the Afghan apparatus. Its going to be the Afghans and Afghan Taliban vs. Pak Army and Pak Taliban.

And this will continue till the time the Pashtuns become literate and educated and all work in the mines in Afghanistan and become rich, whence their lives become more valuable.

Right now, goat meat is 200 Rs a kilo only. Doesnt make goat herders rich by any stretch of imagination.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 17 Oct 2012 16:30

Anujan wrote:Malala probably got herself shot on purpose to get British Visa. She is defaming Pakistan.

Yes they should burn the nearest KFC now.

nakul · Post by **nakul** » 17 Oct 2012 16:43

Joo mullahs were correct. Do not fikar, the Baki awaam ij wid yoo

http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/after ... low-280939

a Taliban spokesman claimed on Tuesday that young Malala Yousufzai, who had criticized the Islamists for closing girls' schools in a blog she wrote for the BBC when she was 11, was "a spy who divulged secrets" and "created propaganda." The spokesman, Ehsanullah Ehsan, also took pains to note reports that the girl had turned 15 in July, suggesting that this meant that she was no longer a child. "Even if no sign of puberty becomes noticeable," he said, "this age of the girl marks the end of prepuberty phase." That being the case, he added, the "Taliban executed the attack on an adult girl only after she emerged as a pivotal character in the media war against us."

the child had attended "a meeting with American military officers."

"United States of America was behind the attack" on the schoolgirl. It goes on to claim that Taliban militants are in fact American agents: "Evil U.S. forces created a dirty plan to kill Malala and they gave the task to Tehreek-e-Taliban or Black Water (Xe)." A part of the report, in bold type and somewhat broken English, calls the Pakistani Taliban, "a coward terrorists organization which works close with C.I.A., Mossad and R.A.W.," referring to the American, Israeli and Indian intelligence agencies.

AoA

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 17 Oct 2012 17:41

SSridhar wrote:Why is the Establishment orchestrating the Malala incident?

That, sir, is the crux of state of affairs in pa'astan. I am half way through a book aptly titled "50 Things Liberals Love to Hate" by Mike Gallagher. In it, Gallagher describes liberals as well educated, upper middle class, double-decaf latte swiggling and sushi eating journalists, academics, musicians, artists and scrawny-arsed bomenians. They hate everything that is contrarian, enterprising and non-conformist. Remind you of anybody/anyone in pa'astan (and in India)?

The thesis is that if one tugs at the western liberals heart strings, you are halfway out of the hole (any hole for that matter)) that you have dug for yourself. The two-million odd paki educated elite has learnt that lesson well. After all, they went to liberal colleges and universities in the west and speak their language. They are the true ambassadors of goodwill for that nutty land. That's what is going on in malalaland today. The liberals have taken over and are now stage managing this incident. Wait till they ask for total forgiveness and money.

This Malala incident has been god sent. Literally. Shot in the head at point blank range but not killed (Hmmmm...). For the pakis, this oversight (and lack of marksmanship) has been their savior. Their manna. Can you imagine what would have been the course of events if malala had died on the spot and not survived? End of the matter, right? Grieved and forgotten.

The paki liberatti with PA as their backers have invoked their western co-believers like never before. They have found their lifeline. The well-orchestrated throngs of ordinary people with color printouts of malala in every hand, the candle lighting orgies, talk shows and musical extravaganzas, PA doctors and nurses working round the clock to treat malala, million $ bounties, bearded maulanas passing fatwas against the bad tailbunnies, and the ISPR spokeman leading the charge in giving updates on malala's condition. It is laughable how the west is lapping this up. It seems all the paki perfidy during these past several years has now been forgiven (or malalalized) and time once again to copulate.

The message is that PA and paki awam are just like the western liberals. They have hearts and feelings, and are truly liberated.

Pathetic.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 17 Oct 2012 18:07

RudraJi,

Brilliant connecting of the dots as always. But at the same time, as in the past, some disagreements or shall we say doubts on some of what you say. This is the objective scientist in me looking at all the evidence to draw a conclusion

. Are you convinced beyond a shadow of doubt that TSPA/ISI orchestrated this attack on Malala as a ruse to enact the circus we are seeing now? My gut feeling is that its a fortuitous event that TSP RAPE have seized with open arms. As you point out, TSP is desperately trying to get back into the good books of US, and they will do anything to achieve that with a modicum of H&D to show in the process.

There definetly seems to be something cooking visa vi TSP guboing in private. Reason being that if you watched the presidential debate last night, Romney did not even mention TSP. If there was even a slight opening, Romney's handlers in the CIA/Pentagon would have give him a TSP stick (like the Libya) to spank Obama's arse. But deafening silence. In this season of $s and cents, Hilary decision to resume full moolah to TSP is not even mentioned.

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 17 Oct 2012 18:28

Suppiah wrote:Anujan-mullah, by this time TSPA must know that the Talibs only love the TSPA the way a bangkok whore loves her customer of the day. Far worse, the whore does not have an ideology or a nationalistic zeal, both of which Talibs have. Which means they hate TSP/TSPA. The Talibs know how far TSPA can go to double deal, cheat and talk with forked tongue...I bet they have their knives out for them. The so called Durand line was never confirmed or accepted by Talibs too - that was when they were much more at TSPA's mercy than they will be when Unkil is off their back..

I think if Talibs take over Afghan, they will perhaps wait a year or so, build bridges with Iran, perhaps even India and become yet another thorn in the flesh of TSPA. They will, of course, support their ex-comrades, the TTP, who are genuinely green, and not fake-green like TSPA. Whether or not they go after Pashtun lands in TSP itself will of course, depend on how firmly they are in power in Kabul and how little they need TSPA but I suspect it will not be much. After all, once Unkil washes his hands off this septic tank and there is no oil there, what is left is Taliban, TSPA, various jehadi groups, India, Iran and guess who is the isolated party here?

I think India shold tell Talibs they are with them, provided they dont mess with us, and provided they dont mess with our allies (non Pashtuns) who are also nationalistic anyway. With that they can have a blank cheque for whatever they do inside TSP.

But, that place seems to have drugs which can be as valuable as oil.

Virendra · Post by **Virendra** » 17 Oct 2012 19:02

SSridhar wrote:There are reports of 'widespread' condemnation of the Taliban, 'bad' Taliban that is. The TV anchors and the newspaper columnists (at least in the English language media) seem to be angered and aroused. School children have said that they were all Malalas now.

Reminds me of another one
I am Anna ... Main Anna Hu

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 17 Oct 2012 19:52

Rudradev wrote:Shiv: sent you email btw.

check

saip · Post by **saip** » 17 Oct 2012 19:55

No cricket team plays in Pakistan, not even their erstwhile brothers from Bangla Desh. So they have this brilliant idea. Get some has been players, pay them a lot and call that team World XI and advertise that International cricket is back and all is well in the dirty land of Pakistan. Bit ICC suddenly wakes up and tells Pakis that they cant call all sundry teams World XI or what ever (BCCI plot?). Paki H&D down the drain!

ICC wants World XI name to be changed

Link

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 17 Oct 2012 20:23

CRamS wrote:RudraJi,

Brilliant connecting of the dots as always. But at the same time, as in the past, some disagreements or shall we say doubts on some of what you say. This is the objective scientist in me looking at all the evidence to draw a conclusion . Are you convinced beyond a shadow of doubt that TSPA/ISI orchestrated this attack on Malala as a ruse to enact the circus we are seeing now? My gut feeling is that its a fortuitous event that TSP RAPE have seized with open arms. As you point out, TSP is desperately trying to get back into the good books of US, and they will do anything to achieve that with a modicum of H&D to show in the process.

.......

Being the scientist you are you would have noted the victim still survives after being shot in the head! Only TSPA is capable of such imprecision also known as incompetence. What has TSPA doe competently? This lack of competence is their hallmark.

I concur with Rudradev!

member_20292 · Post by **member_20292** » 17 Oct 2012 20:44

disagree with rudradev fr once. not done by tspa.

member_22872 · Post by **member_22872** » 17 Oct 2012 21:02

Is there a chance that, TSPA and TSP in general actually wants to get back into US good books as rudradev ji is suggesting with this Malala incident, but just that TSP is just waiting for any such situation to take shape which shows bad taliban in bad light? any such incident would have been fine. So I too think may be this incident is Allah sent, but may not be executed by TSPA in way or another.

nakul · Post by **nakul** » 17 Oct 2012 21:19

Pakistanis have always balanced the "secular western Pakistan" & "radical Talibanised Bakistan" very well depending on the situation. Currently, the image was veering too much towards the latter. So they used this incident to correct itself. If this strategy backfires or overloads the scales, a few IEDs are always at hand to correct it.

Lately, the no of articles about drone attacks in newspapers imply that the current trend is towards the secular image. This incident is part of the trend. Once the situation changes, they will reassess the impact on Pakistan and redefine Pakistan's image to milk the situation. It's an old strategy that Pakistan has mastered over the past 65 years.

arun · Post by **arun** » 17 Oct 2012 21:55

The general public of Tarrel than mountains and deepel than ocean friends, P.R.China, does not have as high an opinion of the Islamic republic of Pakistan as the Sino-Pakistani political rhetoric suggests.

In response to the question “Please tell me if you have a very favorable, somewhat favorable, somewhat unfavorable or very unfavorable opinion of: u. Pakistan”, 15% of P.R.Chinese respondents said their view was “Very Unfavorable” while 37% stated their view was “Somewhat Unfavorable”.

See the 6th Page of below linked PDF file which is marked as Page 30:

Pew Global - China Report

Rangudu · Post by **Rangudu** » 17 Oct 2012 23:20

I too disagree with RD for the simple reason that TSPA neither wants to nor will ever attack jihadi held N.Waziristan. Unkil does not have the leverage to force TSPA to do so. More importantly, Kayani and his Crore Commanders know that the jihadi response will be 10x worse than the last time. Remember the attacks that forced TSPA to make truce after the show ops in Swat and S.Waziristan? There was one attack in a Mosque in Pindi where the former Peshawar corps commander's son was singled out and his head smashed into pulp in front of everyone, before the suicide bombers blasted the place.

Forget Mehran or Kamra, the 'bad' jihadis will go after the Generals' begums and brats. There were reports that 'sarkari' jihadis like Hafiz Saeed were also on the 'bad' jihadi target list. Unkil can get TSPA nuts in a vice metaphorically if he so wishes, but the 'bad' jihadis can literally do that on short notice.

Unkil's threats can be withstood but the inside threat cannot.

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 17 Oct 2012 23:39

venug wrote:So I too think may be this incident is Allah sent, but may not be executed by TSPA in way or another.

Onlee two data points:

1) Abject incompetence (or was it?) of the person shooting a 14-year-old girl at point blank range, causing head and neck wounds, yet failing to kill her.

That may not be unbelievably strange in itself (though I'd expect a Talib who was serious about killing Malala to have succeeded, at that range.) But it becomes extraordinary, even untenable, viewed in the light of:

2) Astonishing competence with which Malala, thereafter, is rescued and kept alive. Even in towns or suburbs of the industrialized Western world, how many point-blank shooting victims are successfully rescued and brought to medical attention in time to save them from head wounds? Also... even a relatively superficial head wound causes enormous and rapid blood loss, very difficult to manage with on-the-spot first aid, even if for some reason there is no brain damage (i.e. the bullet glances off or lodges in the skull.) Yet somehow Malala survives, receives medical attention in time (not in a European or North American suburb but in rural Swat)...gets successfully evacuated, and reaches a military medical hospital alive.

Could this medevac have been executed had the TSPA not expected it to happen, and kept teams and facilities standing by in anticipation? And, as Ramana always says: qui bono? Who benefits from a long-drawn out drama of Malala in critical condition, consuming headlines day after day that paint Pakistan's all-important "image" in a rehabilitated light? Would it have been the same if she had just been killed outright? So many kids are killed in Pakhanistan every day; yet they all remain "statistics".... it took special attention to turn Malala into a "tragedy".

Rangudu wrote:I too disagree with RD for the simple reason that TSPA neither wants to nor will ever attack jihadi held N.Waziristan.

Of course they don't want to attack N. Waz. And they will employ all kinds of tactical brilliance, now, to avoid doing it. They have benefited from the "quid" part of the deal... $2B in aid with conditionalities waived, plus a well-orchestrated publicity campaign reaping international sympathy from the Malala incident. They will now do everything to escape delivering the "quo" part of the deal i.e. actually attacking N. Waz. They might put on some dog-and-pony show using Malala as an excuse, to demonstrate their sincerity. But they won't actually do what the US would like them to.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 17 Oct 2012 23:44

whether the objective is to pave way for NW operation or not Malala wasnt attacked by taliban. Taliban is in mix of accepting denying the responsibility; is not an indication of their act. Has anyone seen movie The Sum of All Fear? Under the circumstances Pres Nemerov accepts the responsibility of the attack on Chechnya. Taliban first accepting the responsibility of this Malala incident looks similar to me.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 17 Oct 2012 23:44

Rangudu wrote:I too disagree with RD for the simple reason that TSPA neither wants to nor will ever attack jihadi held N.Waziristan. Unkil does not have the leverage to force TSPA to do so. More importantly, Kayani and his Crore Commanders know that the jihadi response will be 10x worse than the last time. Remember the attacks that forced TSPA to make truce after the show ops in Swat and S.Waziristan? There was one attack in a Mosque in Pindi where the former Peshawar corps commander's son was singled out and his head smashed into pulp in front of everyone, before the suicide bombers blasted the place.

Forget Mehran or Kamra, the 'bad' jihadis will go after the Generals' begums and brats. There were reports that 'sarkari' jihadis like Hafiz Saeed were also on the 'bad' jihadi target list. Unkil can get TSPA nuts in a vice metaphorically if he so wishes, but the 'bad' jihadis can literally do that on short notice.

Unkil's threats can be withstood but the inside threat cannot.

+1.

Pakistan is an Islamic country. All it needs is more Islam.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 18 Oct 2012 00:17

CRamS wrote: ...

There definetly seems to be something cooking visa vi TSP guboing in private. Reason being that if you watched the presidential debate last night, Romney did not even mention TSP. If there was even a slight opening, Romney's handlers in the CIA/Pentagon would have give him a TSP stick (like the Libya) to spank Obama's arse. But deafening silence. In this season of $s and cents, Hilary decision to resume full moolah to TSP is not even mentioned.

State dept. is the South Block of US. It maintains foreign policy continuity across political changes. Coddling of munna is a long-held policy there. Recent variation is to outsource munna's dangerous tantrums to India. The entire political class goes along with this. This is the reason why no one will ever talk about how USG pays TSP to kill american soldiers, though that would resonate with voters.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 18 Oct 2012 00:18

R-Man,

I think TSPA will put on some kind of a dog & pony show. Otherwise hor do you explain Hilary didi's quiet waiver? Also recall Jihadi Lodhi's views I posted. She is after all a RAPE TSPA/ISI mouthpiece.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 18 Oct 2012 01:58

venug wrote:So I too think may be this incident is Allah sent, but may not be executed by TSPA in way or another.

I dont have a shred of doubt that Malala episode is manufactured (by pakees/Unkil - it doesnt matter by whom) - the intended beneficiary is Pakistan.
Malala was shot twice (once into head, once into neck - if Paki reports are to be believed) , then she (supposedly) went into coma , then the paki specialists(oxymoron) using the famed paki percentage calculation equations gave out a 70% chance of survival and VIOLA! she is now up and giving interviews to western media - after a week of "recovery".

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The alacrity with which Paki and Western establishments rolled out their media blitz both in mainstream and social media - converting the "Taleban as a veritable arm of Pakis" into "Pakis as the bulwark against Taleban advance" - should clearly point to this episode's manufactured nature.

>Now will the TSPA with its image makeover (and popular internal mandate) enact another action movie in NWaziristan ? - most likely
>Will that action movie involving the flattening of empty mud huts using helicopter gunships going to decrease the attacks on the American soldiers in Afghanistan ? - definitely not

Just like there is a promise of Spring in Autumn there are cycles in Unkil-Pak lovemaking, this autumn Kayani will go vaseline jar in hand to give Unkil what he wants and will wobble back bowlegged with a roll of dollar bills in his greasy hand - to start the winter "offensive" with Haqqanis (lets call it Raat-e-Farhat "nights of bliss" ala the Rah-e-Nijat of 2009 winter). After the armour has rolled out there is the Spring to be enjoyed.

Rangudu · Post by **Rangudu** » 18 Oct 2012 02:11

CRamS wrote:R-Man,

I think TSPA will put on some kind of a dog & pony show. Otherwise hor do you explain Hilary didi's quiet waiver? Also recall Jihadi Lodhi's views I posted. She is after all a RAPE TSPA/ISI mouthpiece.

Even a dog and pony show will result in TSPA bloodshed and violence in Pakjabi heartland with brutality beyond imagination. TSPA knows this and hence the hemming and hawing.

If a dog and pony show was on the cards, they would have done it a long time ago.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 18 Oct 2012 02:16

Tbhen R saar, only the India containment motive explains Hilary didi's decision?

Charlie · Post by **Charlie** » 18 Oct 2012 02:23

Breaking: FBI Arrests faithful who plotted to blow up NY Fed

Quazi Mohammad Rezwanul Ahsan Nafism, a 21-year-old man, has been arrested on suspicion of planning to blow up the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, federal officials said. Authorities say he attempted to detonate what he believed was a 1,000-pound bomb. This story is developing. As soon as we learn information we'll update the blog below.

What are the chances that this bious momeen is a Baki?

Abhijit · Post by **Abhijit** » 18 Oct 2012 02:31

He is a former paki or quarter paki - that means this SDRE has at least a quarter of paki blood when his dadi ma was used for the pleasure of tiger niazi's TFTA brigade in east pakiland.

Charlie · Post by **Charlie** » 18 Oct 2012 02:31

Charlie wrote:Breaking: FBI Arrests faithful who plotted to blow up NY Fed

Quazi Mohammad Rezwanul Ahsan Nafism, a 21-year-old man, has been arrested on suspicion of planning to blow up the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, federal officials said. Authorities say he attempted to detonate what he believed was a 1,000-pound bomb. This story is developing. As soon as we learn information we'll update the blog below.
What are the chances that this bious momeen is a Baki?

Looks like its a Bious Abdul from Bangladesh

DEVELOPING: Federal authorities arrested a Bangladeshi national Wednesday morning for allegedly plotting to blow up a Federal Reserve Bank in New York City's lower Manhattan, mere blocks away from the site of the terrorist attack of Sept. 11, 2001. The bank is one of 12 branches around the country.

The 21-year-old suspect, Quazi Mohammad Rezwanul Ahsan Nafis, attempted to detonate what he thought was a 1,000-pound bomb in front of the Fed building on Liberty Street, but the device was a fake supplied to him by undercover FBI agents who had been tracking his activity, the FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force said Wednesday afternoon.
The supposed explosives posed no threat to the public, the FBI said.

At one point, according to criminal complaint, Nafis told undercover agents: "I don't want something that's like, small. I just want something big. Something very big ... that will shake the whole country, that will make America, not one step ahead, change of policy, and make one step ahead, for the Muslims ... that will make us one step closer to run the whole world."

A U.S. official told Fox News that President Obama was Nafis' first target, but the criminal complaint only refers to "a high-ranking official." The complaint also mentions the New York Stock Exchange as a proposed target.
The FBI cites a written statement obtained from Nafis in which he said he wanted to "destroy America" and determined that the best way to achieve that goal was to target the economy. He also referenced quotes from "our beloved Sheikh Osama bin Laden."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/10/17/fe ... z29arM0u9B[/quote]

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 18 Oct 2012 02:59

it will take time but a baki connection will emerge. Only they know how to stoke such hatred.

Anyone recall that US had warned TSP another Times Square event will mkae them take off the gloves? So they used a BDiot.

Rangudu · Post by **Rangudu** » 18 Oct 2012 03:02

CRamS wrote:Tbhen R saar, only the India containment motive explains Hilary didi's decision?

Utter nonsense.

Unkil does not want to completely sever ties with TSPA, whatever Congress says. That is why they have the 'waiver' clause in these laws in the first place. Hilary's 'decision' has more to do with Legislative-Executive tussles within the US than any other factor. The Executive will always seek to maintain options even unpopular ones.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 18 Oct 2012 03:20

I respectfully disagree. Resuming suuch a massive amount of aid in a hush hush manner and is not even up for debate (natl security bs) means there is much more than just wanting to maintain leverage.