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Mamata's Ma, Maati, Manush slogan echoes at UN
Trinamool Congress [ Images ] slogan 'Ma, Maati, Maanush' was raised by party MP Derek O'Brien at the UN general Assembly in New York.O'Brien raised the poll-winning slogan coined by TMC chief Mamata Banerjee [ Images ] while speaking at the second committee session of the General Assembly on Monday.
"In Bengal, the region of India [ Images ] I come from, we call this humanistic philosophy of 'Ma, Maati and Manush' signifying an equilibrium of the universally caring Mother, the earth, that nurtures us and human beings who must be central to our developmental endeavours," he told delegates while speaking on why poverty eradication should be the focus of UN's operational activities for development.The copy of his statement was made available in Kolkata [ Images ] on Tuesday.The UN development system to be successful globally needs to be firmly rooted in its core focus area, which has primarily to be only development-related, he said.
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Vadra focus
Vadra focus

Arvind Kejriwal’s charges against Robert Vadra have earned him praise from Sangh Parivar’s mouthpiece Organiser for breaking the “unwritten code of silence” by striking at the “raw nerve” in the Congress.

The latest issue of Organiser carries a cover story providing details of Kejriwal’s charges. “Vadra’s wealth, Congress in turmoil: Is Sonia family getting its just desserts, finally?” wonders a headline. Alleging that the deals between Vadra and real estate firms were “illegal transactions and malafide nexus” the articles seek to highlight that an ordinary citizen could not have availed similar deals.

The cover story claims “infirmities” in the balance sheets of the firms brought to light alone were “sufficient” to build a case “on the strength of unanswered questions” raised by Kejriwal’s exposé.

All about Gujarat

The assembly elections in Gujarat is the next important issue in both Sangh Parivar mouthpieces, with Organiser carrying an editorial and Panchjanya a cover story on it. Citing media reports, the editorial charges Jamia Millia Islamia University of providing a “communal helping hand” in a “propaganda war against Chief Minister Narendra Modi” through a series of programmes that will involve “all the known hate-Modi campaigners” — “Teesta Setalvad is the lead actor” — ahead of the polls. The editorial wonders whether the Congress has outsourced its election campaign to NGOs and people who hate Modi. It asks the HRD ministry to intervene immediately against the university for dabbling in electoral politics.

The cover story in Panchjanya pitches the polls as a battle between Modi’s “development” and the “propaganda” against him. The article highlights the UK’s turnaround as another vindication of Modi’s record.

Haryana graph

Reports of atrocities against women in Haryana gets the attention of Panchjanya, which has an editorial faulting the Congress and the chief minister.

The editorial criticises Congress president Sonia Gandhi for taking these incidents “lightly” by not taking the Haryana CM to task. “The way Sonia Gandhi has sought to defend Hooda government, it will only embolden criminals and wrongdoers,” laments the editorial.

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India’s Feckless Elite
by Sadanand Dhume

Its political class may not be up to the task of leading India toward prosperity.




Just the other day, it seemed as if India could hardly put a foot wrong. Annual economic growth averaged above eight percent between 2003 and ’08, and the country was one of the world’s few major economies to escape more or less unscathed from the global financial crisis. In November 2010, President Barack Obama made the longest foreign visit of his presidency to India. There, in a rousing address to Parliament, Obama declared that “India has emerged,” and pledged to back New Delhi’s quest for a permanent seat on an expanded United Nations Security Council. By then, authors and analysts had already churned out a small rainforest worth of books and articles asserting that the 21st century belonged to Asia’s two giants, China and India.

Two years later, India’s rise looks a lot less certain. Economic growth slowed to an annual rate of 5.5 percent in the first quarter of the current fiscal year, and few independent analysts expected it to top six percent in the rest of the year. For a country still at an early stage of development—in dollar terms, the average Indian earns about as much as the average Chinese did in 2004—this augurs ill. Most economists believe that India needs to grow by more than seven percent annually merely to keep pace with the 13 million new entrants into the job market each year. (China’s growth rate, even after declining from its former torrid pace, is eight percent.) Pratap Bhanu Mehta, president of the Centre for Policy Research, in New Delhi, says India is “flirting with social catastrophe.”

Flagging growth isn’t the only cause for concern. Foreign direct investment plummeted 67 percent in the first quarter of the current fiscal year, to $4.4 billion. The rupee has spent much of 2012 touching historic new lows. (By mid-September, it had lost 20 percent against the dollar over the past 12 months.) Though arguably a one-off event, the massive power outage in July that left 600 million people without electricity dramatized the parlous state of Indian infrastructure to the world. The blackout was a powerful follow-up to a stark warning from ratings agency Standard and Poor’s the previous month—that India risked becoming the first “fallen angel” among the BRIC economies (Brazil, Russia, India, and China).

In September, the government raised the price of diesel fuel and announced a rash of long-awaited economic reforms in the retail, aviation, and power sectors. For the first time, big-box retailers such as Walmart will be allowed to own a majority stake in their Indian operations. But it remains to be seen if even these limited reforms, eight years in the making, will take hold amid a firestorm of protest by both the opposition and allies within the ruling coalition. As protestors take to the streets and coalition partners threaten to bring down the government, they highlight the unpredictability of Indian democracy and foreshadow a chaotic alternative to the smooth arc of progress assumed by many.

Meanwhile, Parliament has been paralyzed by a series of high-profile corruption scandals. Violence between Muslims and indigenous people has flared in the northeastern state of Assam and between Muslims and Hindus in the Hindi heartland state of Uttar Pradesh. In August, some 50,000 migrants from the northeast who had come to western and southern cities such as Pune, Hyderabad, Bangalore, and Chennai in search of better lives abruptly fled homeward, fearing retaliation for anti-Muslim violence in Assam. In a panic, India’s government blocked more than 300 Web pages, only a handful of which would be considered inflammatory in most democracies. This action, along with a ham-handed attempt to shackle social media sites Twitter and Facebook, and the brief jailing of a political cartoonist under a colonial-era sedition law, casts doubt on the depth of the world’s largest democracy’s commitment to freedom of speech.

This catalogue of setbacks raises questions about the health of India’s polity. Are the country’s ruling elites up to the task of piloting a staggeringly diverse nation of 1.2 billion people, half of them under the age of 25, out of poverty and toward prosperity? Can economic reforms be pushed through in an era of dynastic politics, fragile coalitions, and powerful regional satraps? Can India’s institutions rein in resource grabbing of the sort once associated with postcommunist Russia or Suharto’s crony-ridden Indonesia? Can politicians rise above appeals to caste, religion, and language and begin to debate the country’s future in terms of ideas? In short, will politics, in the broadest sense of the word, enable India to achieve its potential, or choke it?

To be sure, it’s far too early to write off India. It has confounded naysayers before. As far back as 1960, the journalist Selig Harrison famously predicted, in India: The Most Dangerous Decades, that the country would likely fragment or take an authoritarian turn. Except for a 21-month interregnum in the 1970s, when Indira Gandhi halted elections and suspended civil liberties, it did neither. Before India’s green revolution in the 1960s and ’70s, some doubted that the country would be able to feed its burgeoning population. It now grapples with the problem of surplus grain rotting in storehouses. And one year of slower growth hardly alters the broader fact that since the advent of economic reforms in 1991, things have been getting better faster than at any other time in Indian history. In this period, India has pulled more than 200 million people out of poverty. According to the World Bank, the share of the population living below the poverty line has declined from more than half to less than a third.

Moreover, many elements of India’s relative success story since 1991 remain in place. The middle class, estimated to number between 60 and 300 million, depending on who’s counting, provides a vast consumer market. Unlike most developing countries, India is home to a clutch of ambitious companies with global reach. This year, 48 Indians made Forbes magazine’s list of the world’s billionaires. Mumbai-headquartered Tata Motors has defied skeptics and turned around the fortunes of Jaguar Land Rover after buying it four years ago. Anil Ambani’s Reliance ADA Group owns a 50 percent stake in the Hollywood studio DreamWorks. In 2010, Mahindra and Mahindra took over South Korea’s Ssangyong Motor Company. India is also set apart from most developing countries by its deep domestic financial markets, which give business ready access to capital.

Although India’s savings rate has declined somewhat over the past three years, at 31 percent it remains higher than it was in the 1990s and not much below the rates that powered the economic miracles of East Asia’s “tigers” in the 1970s and ’80s. And while company executives often gripe about education standards, only China churns out comparable numbers of engineers and management graduates each year. A large and prosperous diaspora—more than three million strong in the United States alone—acts as a bridge of ideas and innovation between India and the West.

As for India’s rickety democracy, on the positive side, a few relatively well-governed states such as Gujarat on the west coast and Tamil Nadu in the south have discovered the benefits of running business-friendly administrations. More competition among the country’s 28 states could lead to better governance over time. Last, but perhaps most important, for all its flaws, India’s democracy provides it with great structural stability. Unlike their counterparts in many countries at a comparable level of development, Indians can take the peaceful transfer of power by the ballot for granted at all levels of government.

Nonetheless, no country is immune to dysfunctional politics, and, looked at dispassionately, the odds aren’t exactly stacked in India’s favor. As Brown University political scientist Ashutosh Varshney notes, “India is attempting a transformation few nations in modern history have successfully managed: liberalizing the economy within an established democratic order.”

In other words, India embraced universal suffrage (at independence in 1947) at a much earlier stage of economic development than the most successful Asian economies—Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan. (Tiny Singapore can still be called quasi-authoritarian; the ruling People’s Action Party has held power continuously since independence in 1965.) Although India’s democratic experiment has worked remarkably well in many ways—not least by empowering those at the bottom of the social pyramid—the system also makes it extremely difficult to carry out important but unpopular reforms, such as slashing fertilizer subsidies and ensuring that farmers pay market rates for electricity.

It’s hard to argue that, on average, Indian politicians are fully equipped for this challenge. Sixty-five years after independence, for example, India’s democracy appears to reward educational merit less than the British Raj did in its final decades, when it allowed Indians a measure of self-government. At independence, India’s ruling class was arguably the best educated in the developing world. The father of the nation, Mohandas Gandhi, was a lawyer educated at London’s Inner Temple. The first prime minister, Jawaharlal Nehru, studied at Cambridge University, and the chief drafter of the constitution, B. R. Ambedkar, had a doctorate from Columbia University. Simply put, in both erudition and probity, India’s founders were on average several notches above their present-day successors. Today, nearly a third of state and national legislators have criminal charges pending against them, including serious ones such as murder, kidnapping, and extortion.

Over time, the odds of an idealistic young man or woman acquiring a world-class education and aspiring to public life in India have become vanishingly small. Many of the most talented instead look toward the private sector or emigrate to the West. Indian elections are usually decided by an electorate that votes primarily on the basis of identity—caste or religion. Moreover, most political parties in India have morphed into family fiefdoms handed down from parent to child like an heirloom. In many ways, the parties resemble personality cults more than organizations of individuals motivated by similar ideals and policy prescriptions.

The best known of these families is, of course, the Nehru-Gandhi dynasty, rivaled in longevity only by North Korea’s Kims or Saudi Arabia’s House of Saud. Sonia Gandhi, the daughter-in-law of Indira Gandhi, is president of the ruling Congress Party and is India’s most powerful politician. Manmohan Singh, her mild-mannered and technocratic prime minister, is widely seen as a seat warmer for Gandhi’s 42-year-old son, Rahul. Should he become prime minister, Rahul Gandhi will follow in the footsteps of his father, grandmother, and great-grandfather. Should he fail to ascend to the top post, the party, conditioned by decades of loyalty to bloodline rather than ideas, will almost certainly turn to his 40-year-old sister, Priyanka.

But why focus on Congress alone? Akhilesh Singh Yadav, chief minister of Uttar Pradesh, is the son of former chief minister Mulayam Singh Yadav. Another son of a former chief minister heads neighboring Uttarakhand. Politics in Punjab, India’s breadbasket, is largely a battle between two powerful clans, one representing a former royal family, the other usually backed by the Sikh clergy. Sons of former chief ministers run Orissa and Jammu and Kashmir. Until 2010, another ran Maharashtra.

Parliament is no exception to the nepotistic norm. Seven in 10 of its female members, notes historian Patrick French, owe their entry into politics to family ties. Two-thirds of members of Parliament under the age of 40 are “hereditary MPs” from political families. In short, while the right name gives a politician a leg up in other countries, in India it’s more like two legs and an arm. Fifty-odd families effectively run much of the country. Traditionally, the Communists and the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), each disciplined by a distinctive worldview, have been better than others at nurturing talent. But nowadays the BJP’s most prominent young MPs look remarkably similar to their entitled peers in the unabashedly dynastic Congress Party. Smaller caste-based and regional parties, such as Yadav’s Samajwadi Party, are typically personality cults run by a maximum leader who pays lip service to some variant of socialism while drawing electoral support based almost entirely on identity politics.

Arguably, this system fosters corruption. Lacking a culture of transparency, virtually all parties use slush funds for campaigns, which in many parts of the country consist of promising voters free kitchen appliances or laptops, or delivering cash-filled envelopes to them the night before voting. In the absence of intraparty competition, the party leader effectively controls both campaign cash and, when in power, the state’s goody bag of handouts. It’s hardly a surprise, then, that politicians have developed a symbiotic relationship with crony capitalists in mining and real estate, fields in which access to decision makers is the single most important element of business success. In some cases—as in the ongoing “coalgate” scandal, in which government auditors claim that the national exchequer lost $34 billion by selling valuable coal reserves at throwaway prices—the politician and the crony businessman are the same person.

Neither dynastic politics nor corruption is uniquely Indian. The former hasn’t appreciably hindered Singapore’s progress, nor the latter South Korea’s. But India also bears the harmful legacy of past mistakes that have not been fully acknowledged, and therefore not fully repudiated. India’s first prime minister, Jawaharlal Nehru, was a Fabian socialist who was contemptuous of markets and enamored of state planning. His daughter, Indira Gandhi, raised rabble-rousing to an art form and turned the crude license-permit system she inherited from her father into a refined instrument of economic torture. In her time, the marginal tax rate rose to 97 percent, and thanks to the license system even the most routine economic decisions, such as where a business could build a factory or how much it could produce, were made by bureaucrats.

Under Gandhi’s rule, which spanned most of two decades until her assassination in 1984, India fell steadily behind its East Asian peers on measures such as the growth of per capita income and human development. Between them, Nehru and Gandhi ruled India for all but four of its first 37 years of independence. They created a political discourse centered on government intervention and largesse that persists to this day. So pervasive is this discourse that even the opposition BJP, ostensibly a party of the Right, often espouses economic views that are indistinguishable from those of India’s Marxists. Though it pushed reforms when it was in power (1998–2004), in opposition the BJP has led the charge against fuel price rationalization, opposed foreign investment in retail, and stalled the implementation of a modern goods-and-services tax to replace an inefficient patchwork of levies.

Thanks to this legacy of mistrusting markets, no Congress-led government, including the one that was compelled to launch reforms in 1991 against the backdrop of a balance-of-payments crisis, has treated liberalization as something to celebrate or explain to the masses. Most seem to view it as bitter medicine to be taken in the depths of a crisis—as with the most recent batch of reforms in September. For others, it’s a somewhat distasteful means to acquire the resources to fund welfare programs that guarantee subsidized grains or government jobs for villagers. No wonder that the handful of reformers in government usually operate by stealth, preferring to tweak policies on the margins rather than make a full-throated case for privatizing money-losing companies or streamlining subsidies.

In economic terms this may put India on a fiscally unsustainable path, but in political terms it makes perfect sense. Indeed, the current Congress-led coalition returned to power in 2004 on the strength of a factually incorrect but electorally appealing argument: that liberalization had not helped India’s poor. Not surprisingly, it interpreted its mandate as an excuse to boost often wasteful welfare spending and put the brakes on reforms such as the privatization of state-owned enterprises. The party’s reelection in 2009 with a larger parliamentary mandate cemented the widely held belief in Indian politics that only handouts guarantee electoral success. Only the economic slowdown, and perhaps the threat to Singh’s international image as an economic reformer earned as finance minister in the 1990s, has forced the government to partially change course.

None of the costs of democracy are unique to India. But together they add up to a disquieting possibility—that there’s a fundamental mismatch between the country’s economic aspirations and its political culture. On the surface, India may be a democracy like any other—with an elected government, a professional civil service, and a legal system inherited from the British. But unlike its counterparts in almost any other advanced democracy, much of India’s political class represents values at odds with those of the most productive element of society: the educated middle class. The middle class seeks order; the political class thrives on chaos. The middle class embraces hard work and thrift; the political class has become synonymous with theatrics and public theft. The middle-class dream rests on a sound education; a career in politics usually takes flight on a famous last name.

This dysfunctional polity accurately reflects the current Indian electorate. Higher-end estimates of the size of India’s middle class (as many as 300 million people) are based on a person’s capacity to afford basic consumer goods such as a cell phone, a television, or a motorcycle. But while 300 million consumers may mean a lot to Samsung or Honda, they represent only a quarter of India’s population. Moreover, it’s not clear how many of them oppose the status quo. Bluntly put, you may have a cell phone in your pocket and sneakers on your feet, and still think of burning a bus as a legitimate form of political protest and some form of Nehruvian socialism as the ideal economic system.

Nonetheless, there are glimmers of hope. About 60 million Indians are middle class by global standards, not merely Indian ones. With rising incomes and greater awareness of the outside world—spurred in part by television news, social media, and foreign travel—this cohort is most likely to begin to question the peculiar honor code of Indian politics, under which a party stands to lose face, and with it influence, if it can’t marshal the street muscle to bring ordinary life to a halt.

But even this group, roughly the well educated and the professional class, faces formidable challenges. Already hobbled by relatively meager numbers, they are also shut out by the dynastic nature of most political parties. A culture that equates dissent with disloyalty precludes competitive internal party elections of the sort that are commonplace in the industrialized world. It’s true that with the right combination of backroom maneuvering and administrative skill, a talented lawyer, doctor, or journalist may yet ascend the greasy pole of power. But this will demand a willingness to wade into the muck of a notoriously corrupt system, and to play permanent second fiddle to a party’s chosen princeling. Not surprisingly, the most ethical, talented, and ambitious prefer to make their mark elsewhere.

Nonetheless, those locked out of the political process also have themselves to blame for their predicament. With their resources, capacity for organization, and access to the media, they ought to punch above their weight rather than below it. Unlike in America, in India, the richer you are, the less likely you are to vote. In the richer neighborhoods in Delhi, Mumbai, and Bangalore, and in the gated apartment complexes springing up in satellite towns such as Gurgaon, outside the capital, people have chosen to secede from Indian democracy rather than to fix it. On-site generators provide power. Private guards take care of security. The kids study in private schools and visit private doctors. For the most part, politics belongs to a distant world, glimpsed on television news, gossiped about at parties, and, at best, participated in only when national elections come around every five years.

In the long run, however, this apathy is untenable. For India to get the leadership it deserves, the educated must not only vote in larger numbers but also seek a way to enter active politics. The quixotic attempt by Meera Sanyal, a senior banker with the Dutch multinational ABN Amro, to run for a seat in Parliament from South Mumbai in 2009, ought to serve as a symbol of inspiration rather than a cause for derision. (Sanyal won only about 10,000 votes out of 640,000 cast.) Before he tarnished his image by getting involved in a cricket scam, Shashi Tharoor, a former top official at the United Nations and a Congress member of Parliament from the southern state of Kerala, showed that Indian voters are willing to give an outsider a chance. Baijayant Panda, an articulate politician from the eastern state of Orissa, has found a way to blend traditional constituency politics with a forward-looking view of policy.

In the long run, time may well be on the outsider’s side. If the economy picks up again, the numbers of those with a regular job, a home loan, and a sense of professional purpose will continue to swell. According to the consulting firm McKinsey & Company, by 2025 India’s middle class will expand roughly tenfold, to 583 million people, or more than 40 percent of the population. At that time, presumably, politicians will no longer find it necessary to whip up mobs against big-box stores or bring traffic to a halt in the national capital over the price of fuel.

If more politicians could think beyond the inherited template of identity politics and government handouts, they would see the enormous potential—for their parties and for India—of locking in the support of the middle class. In a properly functioning democracy, political arguments are won in newspapers and on television, and through orderly grassroots expressions of dissent. For India to join the developed world, it needs to drag its politicians into the 21st century. Or else, they may just drag India down with themselves instead.

Photo: India’s de facto royal family includes Sonia Gandhi, head of the Congress Party, and her son Rahul and daughter Priyanka. Rahul is considered a prime-minister-in-waiting, with Priyanka ready to step in if he fails. Their father, grandmother, and great-grandfather all served as prime ministers. M. LAKSHMAN / AP IMAGES
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India’s Feckless Elite
by Sadanand Dhume

Its political class may not be up to the task of leading India toward prosperity.




Just the other day, it seemed as if India could hardly put a foot wrong. Annual economic growth averaged above eight percent between 2003 and ’08, and the country was one of the world’s few major economies to escape more or less unscathed from the global financial crisis. In November 2010, President Barack Obama made the longest foreign visit of his presidency to India. There, in a rousing address to Parliament, Obama declared that “India has emerged,” and pledged to back New Delhi’s quest for a permanent seat on an expanded United Nations Security Council. By then, authors and analysts had already churned out a small rainforest worth of books and articles asserting that the 21st century belonged to Asia’s two giants, China and India.

Two years later, India’s rise looks a lot less certain. Economic growth slowed to an annual rate of 5.5 percent in the first quarter of the current fiscal year, and few independent analysts expected it to top six percent in the rest of the year. For a country still at an early stage of development—in dollar terms, the average Indian earns about as much as the average Chinese did in 2004—this augurs ill. Most economists believe that India needs to grow by more than seven percent annually merely to keep pace with the 13 million new entrants into the job market each year. (China’s growth rate, even after declining from its former torrid pace, is eight percent.) Pratap Bhanu Mehta, president of the Centre for Policy Research, in New Delhi, says India is “flirting with social catastrophe.”

Flagging growth isn’t the only cause for concern. Foreign direct investment plummeted 67 percent in the first quarter of the current fiscal year, to $4.4 billion. The rupee has spent much of 2012 touching historic new lows. (By mid-September, it had lost 20 percent against the dollar over the past 12 months.) Though arguably a one-off event, the massive power outage in July that left 600 million people without electricity dramatized the parlous state of Indian infrastructure to the world. The blackout was a powerful follow-up to a stark warning from ratings agency Standard and Poor’s the previous month—that India risked becoming the first “fallen angel” among the BRIC economies (Brazil, Russia, India, and China).

In September, the government raised the price of diesel fuel and announced a rash of long-awaited economic reforms in the retail, aviation, and power sectors. For the first time, big-box retailers such as Walmart will be allowed to own a majority stake in their Indian operations. But it remains to be seen if even these limited reforms, eight years in the making, will take hold amid a firestorm of protest by both the opposition and allies within the ruling coalition. As protestors take to the streets and coalition partners threaten to bring down the government, they highlight the unpredictability of Indian democracy and foreshadow a chaotic alternative to the smooth arc of progress assumed by many.

Meanwhile, Parliament has been paralyzed by a series of high-profile corruption scandals. Violence between Muslims and indigenous people has flared in the northeastern state of Assam and between Muslims and Hindus in the Hindi heartland state of Uttar Pradesh. In August, some 50,000 migrants from the northeast who had come to western and southern cities such as Pune, Hyderabad, Bangalore, and Chennai in search of better lives abruptly fled homeward, fearing retaliation for anti-Muslim violence in Assam. In a panic, India’s government blocked more than 300 Web pages, only a handful of which would be considered inflammatory in most democracies. This action, along with a ham-handed attempt to shackle social media sites Twitter and Facebook, and the brief jailing of a political cartoonist under a colonial-era sedition law, casts doubt on the depth of the world’s largest democracy’s commitment to freedom of speech.

This catalogue of setbacks raises questions about the health of India’s polity. Are the country’s ruling elites up to the task of piloting a staggeringly diverse nation of 1.2 billion people, half of them under the age of 25, out of poverty and toward prosperity? Can economic reforms be pushed through in an era of dynastic politics, fragile coalitions, and powerful regional satraps? Can India’s institutions rein in resource grabbing of the sort once associated with postcommunist Russia or Suharto’s crony-ridden Indonesia? Can politicians rise above appeals to caste, religion, and language and begin to debate the country’s future in terms of ideas? In short, will politics, in the broadest sense of the word, enable India to achieve its potential, or choke it?

To be sure, it’s far too early to write off India. It has confounded naysayers before. As far back as 1960, the journalist Selig Harrison famously predicted, in India: The Most Dangerous Decades, that the country would likely fragment or take an authoritarian turn. Except for a 21-month interregnum in the 1970s, when Indira Gandhi halted elections and suspended civil liberties, it did neither. Before India’s green revolution in the 1960s and ’70s, some doubted that the country would be able to feed its burgeoning population. It now grapples with the problem of surplus grain rotting in storehouses. And one year of slower growth hardly alters the broader fact that since the advent of economic reforms in 1991, things have been getting better faster than at any other time in Indian history. In this period, India has pulled more than 200 million people out of poverty. According to the World Bank, the share of the population living below the poverty line has declined from more than half to less than a third.

Moreover, many elements of India’s relative success story since 1991 remain in place. The middle class, estimated to number between 60 and 300 million, depending on who’s counting, provides a vast consumer market. Unlike most developing countries, India is home to a clutch of ambitious companies with global reach. This year, 48 Indians made Forbes magazine’s list of the world’s billionaires. Mumbai-headquartered Tata Motors has defied skeptics and turned around the fortunes of Jaguar Land Rover after buying it four years ago. Anil Ambani’s Reliance ADA Group owns a 50 percent stake in the Hollywood studio DreamWorks. In 2010, Mahindra and Mahindra took over South Korea’s Ssangyong Motor Company. India is also set apart from most developing countries by its deep domestic financial markets, which give business ready access to capital.

Although India’s savings rate has declined somewhat over the past three years, at 31 percent it remains higher than it was in the 1990s and not much below the rates that powered the economic miracles of East Asia’s “tigers” in the 1970s and ’80s. And while company executives often gripe about education standards, only China churns out comparable numbers of engineers and management graduates each year. A large and prosperous diaspora—more than three million strong in the United States alone—acts as a bridge of ideas and innovation between India and the West.

As for India’s rickety democracy, on the positive side, a few relatively well-governed states such as Gujarat on the west coast and Tamil Nadu in the south have discovered the benefits of running business-friendly administrations. More competition among the country’s 28 states could lead to better governance over time. Last, but perhaps most important, for all its flaws, India’s democracy provides it with great structural stability. Unlike their counterparts in many countries at a comparable level of development, Indians can take the peaceful transfer of power by the ballot for granted at all levels of government.

Nonetheless, no country is immune to dysfunctional politics, and, looked at dispassionately, the odds aren’t exactly stacked in India’s favor. As Brown University political scientist Ashutosh Varshney notes, “India is attempting a transformation few nations in modern history have successfully managed: liberalizing the economy within an established democratic order.”

In other words, India embraced universal suffrage (at independence in 1947) at a much earlier stage of economic development than the most successful Asian economies—Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan. (Tiny Singapore can still be called quasi-authoritarian; the ruling People’s Action Party has held power continuously since independence in 1965.) Although India’s democratic experiment has worked remarkably well in many ways—not least by empowering those at the bottom of the social pyramid—the system also makes it extremely difficult to carry out important but unpopular reforms, such as slashing fertilizer subsidies and ensuring that farmers pay market rates for electricity.

It’s hard to argue that, on average, Indian politicians are fully equipped for this challenge. Sixty-five years after independence, for example, India’s democracy appears to reward educational merit less than the British Raj did in its final decades, when it allowed Indians a measure of self-government. At independence, India’s ruling class was arguably the best educated in the developing world. The father of the nation, Mohandas Gandhi, was a lawyer educated at London’s Inner Temple. The first prime minister, Jawaharlal Nehru, studied at Cambridge University, and the chief drafter of the constitution, B. R. Ambedkar, had a doctorate from Columbia University. Simply put, in both erudition and probity, India’s founders were on average several notches above their present-day successors. Today, nearly a third of state and national legislators have criminal charges pending against them, including serious ones such as murder, kidnapping, and extortion.

Over time, the odds of an idealistic young man or woman acquiring a world-class education and aspiring to public life in India have become vanishingly small. Many of the most talented instead look toward the private sector or emigrate to the West. Indian elections are usually decided by an electorate that votes primarily on the basis of identity—caste or religion. Moreover, most political parties in India have morphed into family fiefdoms handed down from parent to child like an heirloom. In many ways, the parties resemble personality cults more than organizations of individuals motivated by similar ideals and policy prescriptions.

The best known of these families is, of course, the Nehru-Gandhi dynasty, rivaled in longevity only by North Korea’s Kims or Saudi Arabia’s House of Saud. Sonia Gandhi, the daughter-in-law of Indira Gandhi, is president of the ruling Congress Party and is India’s most powerful politician. Manmohan Singh, her mild-mannered and technocratic prime minister, is widely seen as a seat warmer for Gandhi’s 42-year-old son, Rahul. Should he become prime minister, Rahul Gandhi will follow in the footsteps of his father, grandmother, and great-grandfather. Should he fail to ascend to the top post, the party, conditioned by decades of loyalty to bloodline rather than ideas, will almost certainly turn to his 40-year-old sister, Priyanka.

But why focus on Congress alone? Akhilesh Singh Yadav, chief minister of Uttar Pradesh, is the son of former chief minister Mulayam Singh Yadav. Another son of a former chief minister heads neighboring Uttarakhand. Politics in Punjab, India’s breadbasket, is largely a battle between two powerful clans, one representing a former royal family, the other usually backed by the Sikh clergy. Sons of former chief ministers run Orissa and Jammu and Kashmir. Until 2010, another ran Maharashtra.

Parliament is no exception to the nepotistic norm. Seven in 10 of its female members, notes historian Patrick French, owe their entry into politics to family ties. Two-thirds of members of Parliament under the age of 40 are “hereditary MPs” from political families. In short, while the right name gives a politician a leg up in other countries, in India it’s more like two legs and an arm. Fifty-odd families effectively run much of the country. Traditionally, the Communists and the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), each disciplined by a distinctive worldview, have been better than others at nurturing talent. But nowadays the BJP’s most prominent young MPs look remarkably similar to their entitled peers in the unabashedly dynastic Congress Party. Smaller caste-based and regional parties, such as Yadav’s Samajwadi Party, are typically personality cults run by a maximum leader who pays lip service to some variant of socialism while drawing electoral support based almost entirely on identity politics.

Arguably, this system fosters corruption. Lacking a culture of transparency, virtually all parties use slush funds for campaigns, which in many parts of the country consist of promising voters free kitchen appliances or laptops, or delivering cash-filled envelopes to them the night before voting. In the absence of intraparty competition, the party leader effectively controls both campaign cash and, when in power, the state’s goody bag of handouts. It’s hardly a surprise, then, that politicians have developed a symbiotic relationship with crony capitalists in mining and real estate, fields in which access to decision makers is the single most important element of business success. In some cases—as in the ongoing “coalgate” scandal, in which government auditors claim that the national exchequer lost $34 billion by selling valuable coal reserves at throwaway prices—the politician and the crony businessman are the same person.

Neither dynastic politics nor corruption is uniquely Indian. The former hasn’t appreciably hindered Singapore’s progress, nor the latter South Korea’s. But India also bears the harmful legacy of past mistakes that have not been fully acknowledged, and therefore not fully repudiated. India’s first prime minister, Jawaharlal Nehru, was a Fabian socialist who was contemptuous of markets and enamored of state planning. His daughter, Indira Gandhi, raised rabble-rousing to an art form and turned the crude license-permit system she inherited from her father into a refined instrument of economic torture. In her time, the marginal tax rate rose to 97 percent, and thanks to the license system even the most routine economic decisions, such as where a business could build a factory or how much it could produce, were made by bureaucrats.

Under Gandhi’s rule, which spanned most of two decades until her assassination in 1984, India fell steadily behind its East Asian peers on measures such as the growth of per capita income and human development. Between them, Nehru and Gandhi ruled India for all but four of its first 37 years of independence. They created a political discourse centered on government intervention and largesse that persists to this day. So pervasive is this discourse that even the opposition BJP, ostensibly a party of the Right, often espouses economic views that are indistinguishable from those of India’s Marxists. Though it pushed reforms when it was in power (1998–2004), in opposition the BJP has led the charge against fuel price rationalization, opposed foreign investment in retail, and stalled the implementation of a modern goods-and-services tax to replace an inefficient patchwork of levies.

Thanks to this legacy of mistrusting markets, no Congress-led government, including the one that was compelled to launch reforms in 1991 against the backdrop of a balance-of-payments crisis, has treated liberalization as something to celebrate or explain to the masses. Most seem to view it as bitter medicine to be taken in the depths of a crisis—as with the most recent batch of reforms in September. For others, it’s a somewhat distasteful means to acquire the resources to fund welfare programs that guarantee subsidized grains or government jobs for villagers. No wonder that the handful of reformers in government usually operate by stealth, preferring to tweak policies on the margins rather than make a full-throated case for privatizing money-losing companies or streamlining subsidies.

In economic terms this may put India on a fiscally unsustainable path, but in political terms it makes perfect sense. Indeed, the current Congress-led coalition returned to power in 2004 on the strength of a factually incorrect but electorally appealing argument: that liberalization had not helped India’s poor. Not surprisingly, it interpreted its mandate as an excuse to boost often wasteful welfare spending and put the brakes on reforms such as the privatization of state-owned enterprises. The party’s reelection in 2009 with a larger parliamentary mandate cemented the widely held belief in Indian politics that only handouts guarantee electoral success. Only the economic slowdown, and perhaps the threat to Singh’s international image as an economic reformer earned as finance minister in the 1990s, has forced the government to partially change course.

None of the costs of democracy are unique to India. But together they add up to a disquieting possibility—that there’s a fundamental mismatch between the country’s economic aspirations and its political culture. On the surface, India may be a democracy like any other—with an elected government, a professional civil service, and a legal system inherited from the British. But unlike its counterparts in almost any other advanced democracy, much of India’s political class represents values at odds with those of the most productive element of society: the educated middle class. The middle class seeks order; the political class thrives on chaos. The middle class embraces hard work and thrift; the political class has become synonymous with theatrics and public theft. The middle-class dream rests on a sound education; a career in politics usually takes flight on a famous last name.

This dysfunctional polity accurately reflects the current Indian electorate. Higher-end estimates of the size of India’s middle class (as many as 300 million people) are based on a person’s capacity to afford basic consumer goods such as a cell phone, a television, or a motorcycle. But while 300 million consumers may mean a lot to Samsung or Honda, they represent only a quarter of India’s population. Moreover, it’s not clear how many of them oppose the status quo. Bluntly put, you may have a cell phone in your pocket and sneakers on your feet, and still think of burning a bus as a legitimate form of political protest and some form of Nehruvian socialism as the ideal economic system.

Nonetheless, there are glimmers of hope. About 60 million Indians are middle class by global standards, not merely Indian ones. With rising incomes and greater awareness of the outside world—spurred in part by television news, social media, and foreign travel—this cohort is most likely to begin to question the peculiar honor code of Indian politics, under which a party stands to lose face, and with it influence, if it can’t marshal the street muscle to bring ordinary life to a halt.

But even this group, roughly the well educated and the professional class, faces formidable challenges. Already hobbled by relatively meager numbers, they are also shut out by the dynastic nature of most political parties. A culture that equates dissent with disloyalty precludes competitive internal party elections of the sort that are commonplace in the industrialized world. It’s true that with the right combination of backroom maneuvering and administrative skill, a talented lawyer, doctor, or journalist may yet ascend the greasy pole of power. But this will demand a willingness to wade into the muck of a notoriously corrupt system, and to play permanent second fiddle to a party’s chosen princeling. Not surprisingly, the most ethical, talented, and ambitious prefer to make their mark elsewhere.

Nonetheless, those locked out of the political process also have themselves to blame for their predicament. With their resources, capacity for organization, and access to the media, they ought to punch above their weight rather than below it. Unlike in America, in India, the richer you are, the less likely you are to vote. In the richer neighborhoods in Delhi, Mumbai, and Bangalore, and in the gated apartment complexes springing up in satellite towns such as Gurgaon, outside the capital, people have chosen to secede from Indian democracy rather than to fix it. On-site generators provide power. Private guards take care of security. The kids study in private schools and visit private doctors. For the most part, politics belongs to a distant world, glimpsed on television news, gossiped about at parties, and, at best, participated in only when national elections come around every five years.

In the long run, however, this apathy is untenable. For India to get the leadership it deserves, the educated must not only vote in larger numbers but also seek a way to enter active politics. The quixotic attempt by Meera Sanyal, a senior banker with the Dutch multinational ABN Amro, to run for a seat in Parliament from South Mumbai in 2009, ought to serve as a symbol of inspiration rather than a cause for derision. (Sanyal won only about 10,000 votes out of 640,000 cast.) Before he tarnished his image by getting involved in a cricket scam, Shashi Tharoor, a former top official at the United Nations and a Congress member of Parliament from the southern state of Kerala, showed that Indian voters are willing to give an outsider a chance. Baijayant Panda, an articulate politician from the eastern state of Orissa, has found a way to blend traditional constituency politics with a forward-looking view of policy.

In the long run, time may well be on the outsider’s side. If the economy picks up again, the numbers of those with a regular job, a home loan, and a sense of professional purpose will continue to swell. According to the consulting firm McKinsey & Company, by 2025 India’s middle class will expand roughly tenfold, to 583 million people, or more than 40 percent of the population. At that time, presumably, politicians will no longer find it necessary to whip up mobs against big-box stores or bring traffic to a halt in the national capital over the price of fuel.

If more politicians could think beyond the inherited template of identity politics and government handouts, they would see the enormous potential—for their parties and for India—of locking in the support of the middle class. In a properly functioning democracy, political arguments are won in newspapers and on television, and through orderly grassroots expressions of dissent. For India to join the developed world, it needs to drag its politicians into the 21st century. Or else, they may just drag India down with themselves instead.

Photo: India’s de facto royal family includes Sonia Gandhi, head of the Congress Party, and her son Rahul and daughter Priyanka. Rahul is considered a prime-minister-in-waiting, with Priyanka ready to step in if he fails. Their father, grandmother, and great-grandfather all served as prime ministers. M. LAKSHMAN / AP IMAGES
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Geelani threatens to launch agitation against Amarnath road project
Kashmiri separatist leader Syed Ali Shah Geelani on Thursday reiterated his threat to launch a mass agitation, after the forthcoming Eid, against the state government's road connectivity project for the Hindu religious shrine, Amarnath cave in the Himalayas in south Kashmir.

Geelani alleged that the construction of a metalled road for pilgrims and concrete structures on the Amarnath pilgrimage route was being proposed on prohibited forest area.
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I see the following milestones :
- 1962 as the end of the Brown EIC regime in foreign & defence policy matters
- 1974 & 1998 settled the nuclear question which was in abeyance sine 1950s
- 1991 ended the Brown EIC rule in economic affairs

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Atri wrote:
harbans wrote:
Yes we may have glee as tens of millions die to the sword of Islam within Pakistan. But ultimately the Black Flags will turn against us. And they will have 300 plus nukes aimed. Also the inevitable exodus of unreformed millions who the liberal WKK type elite here coax that Islam is a RoP.
Harbans ji,

This will facilitate "us" in knowing and defining "ourselves" in better fashion than the way we do it now.. The establishment which reigns in India is the one which accommodated TSP in first place. DIEnasty and TSP are interlinked like Siamese twins. Both will not let the other fall.. Mark my words.. For TSP to cease existing, those with whom DIEnasty has ties should perish. And DIEnasty should also "retire" (talking about entire Deshi+Videshi NBJPRE network which keeps DIEnasty propped up) simultaneously..

This is becoming too much political for me, hence I will resort to fantasy fiction and start talking about Harry Potter and Deathly hallows, instead. DIEnasty is the last "horcrux" that dark lord created when he attached part of his soul to Harry Potter.. :D Harry had to die and come back to life, keeping his part of soul intact and killing the parasitic Voldemort's soul in the process. Apparently, it is "Love" which saved Harry's soul. Here it will be "Dharma". All that is adharmik and asurik will have to die along with dharmik component while keeping in mind the fact that dharmik component should be neatly protected to allow rejuvenation.

I get you Atri. No need for metaphors and similes.
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ramana wrote:This will facilitate "us" in knowing and defining "ourselves" in better fashion than the way we do it now.. The establishment which reigns in India is the one which accommodated TSP in first place. DIEnasty and TSP are interlinked like Siamese twins. Both will not let the other fall.. Mark my words.. For TSP to cease existing, those with whom DIEnasty has ties should perish. And DIEnasty should also "retire" (talking about entire Deshi+Videshi NBJPRE network which keeps DIEnasty propped up) simultaneously..
. Apparently, it is "Love" which saved Harry's soul. Here it will be "Dharma". All that is adharmik and asurik will have to die along with dharmik component while keeping in mind the fact that dharmik component should be neatly protected to allow rejuvenation.
I get you Atri. No need for metaphors and similes.
INSA-Alah,Let it be. We live Infinite amount of lifes. One lifers will be gone for ever.
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Jhujar wrote: INSA-Alah,Let it be. We live Infinite amount of lifes. One lifers will be gone for ever.
The problem is, even thought the onelifers do not think they are coming back, they do come back... the fight between devas and asuras is eternal... dharma is nothing but a conscious/self-aware individual standing on the side of devas (universal dharmics) and fight asuras (universal adharmics). The universal adharmics come in different shapes, forms, races, nationalities and languages. They can be within our own families.

When the battle lines are drawn we may see even blood brothers standing on opposite sides.

At individual level it is self-awareness and at group/social level it is fighting Adharmics.
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ramana wrote:I see the following milestones :
- 1962 as the end of the Brown EIC regime in foreign & defence policy matters
- 1974 & 1998 settled the nuclear question which was in abeyance sine 1950s
- 1991 ended the Brown EIC rule in economic affairs
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Who are the Brown EIC. What is the role of the Brown EIC in India before Independence and after Independence
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http://www.gutenberg.org/files/7176/7176-h/7176-h.htm
A Letter to a Hindu, by Leo Tolstoy
Title: A Letter to a HinduAuthor: Leo Tolstoy
Do not seek quiet and rest in those earthly realms where delusions and desires are engendered, for if thou dost, thou wilt be dragged through the rough wilderness of life, which is far from Me. Whenever thou feelest that thy feet are becoming entangled in the interlaced roots of life, know that thou has strayed from the path to which I beckon thee: for I have placed thee in broad, smooth paths, which are strewn with flowers. I have put a light before thee, which thou canst follow and thus run without stumbling. KRISHNA. I have received your letter and two numbers of your periodical, both of which interest me extremely. The oppression of a majority by a minority, and the demoralization inevitably resulting from it, is a phenomenon that has always occupied me and has done so most particularly of late. I will try to explain to you what I think about that subject in general, and particularly about the cause from which the dreadful evils of which you write in your letter, and in the Hindu periodical you have sent me, have arisen and continue to arise. The reason for the astonishing fact that a majority of working people submit to a handful of idlers who control their labour and their very lives is always and everywhere the same—whether the oppressors and oppressed are of one race or whether, as in India and elsewhere, the oppressors are of a different nation. This phenomenon seems particularly strange in India, for there more than two hundred million people, highly gifted both physically and mentally, find themselves in the power of a small group of people quite alien to them in thought, and immeasurably inferior to them in religious morality. From your letter and the articles in Free Hindustan as well as from the very interesting writings of the Hindu Swami Vivekananda and others, it appears that, as is the case in our time with the ills of all nations, the reason lies in the lack of a reasonable religious teaching which by explaining the meaning of life would supply a supreme law for the guidance of conduct and would replace the more than dubious precepts of pseudo-religion and pseudo-science with the immoral conclusions deduced from them and commonly called 'civilization'. Your letter, as well as the articles in Free Hindustan and Indian political literature generally, shows that most of the leaders of public opinion among your people no longer attach any significance to the religious teachings that were and are professed by the peoples of India, and recognize no possibility of freeing the people from the oppression they endure except by adopting the irreligious and profoundly immoral social arrangements under which the English and other pseudo-Christian nations live to-day. And yet the chief if not the sole cause of the enslavement of the Indian peoples by the English lies in this very absence of a religious consciousness and of the guidance for conduct which should flow from it—a lack common in our day to all nations East and West, from Japan to England and America alike
O ye, who see perplexities over your heads, beneath your feet, and to the right and left of you; you will be an eternal enigma unto yourselves until ye become humble and joyful as children. Then will ye find Me, and having found Me in yourselves, you will rule over worlds, and looking out from the great world within to the little world without, you will bless everything that is, and find all is well with time and with you. KRISHNA.

To make my thoughts clear to you I must go farther back. We do not, cannot, and I venture to say need not, know how men lived millions of years ago or even ten thousand years ago, but we do know positively that, as far back as we have any knowledge of mankind, it has always lived in special groups of families, tribes, and nations in which the majority, in the conviction that it must be so, submissively and willingly bowed to the rule of one or more persons—that is to a very small minority. Despite all varieties of circumstances and personalities these relations manifested themselves among the various peoples of whose origin we have any knowledge; and the farther back we go the more absolutely necessary did this arrangement appear, both to the rulers and the ruled, to make it possible for people to live peacefully together.
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From first post
http://www.firstpost.com/politics/briti ... 99303.html
The High Commissioner’s discomfiture is easy to understand. For 10 long years, Britain, along with other leading Western powers, had tied themselves too closely to the human rights activists’ demand for a boycott of Modi for alleged complicity in the 2002 riots. And today, the self-same Britain has unilaterally ended its ‘boycott’ and begin to re-engage with Gujarat on Modi’s terms.

And although even today the British High Commissioner makes ritualistic invocations of  human rights sensibilities, the emphasis has subtly shifted in a manner that conveys that Britain has reassessed its priorities vis-a-vis Gujarat, and has come around to the view that the boycott of what from all accounts is an economically vibrant Gujarat is hurting Britain more than Gujarat, with little or nothing to show in terms of  brownie  points won with human rights activists.
How come a single state of Bharat, which is not even the top GDP contributor, not the most populated, not the largest, not the one with most fertile land and so on, can bring the excolonial master of India on to it's knees?

But how come the Moorkh Mohan Singh's govt feels so week in front of the same colonial power and pays $10b of tribute to their masters while holding that amount from Gujarat?


Why do we still have Rakshaks who support this corrupt, slavish congress party of India?
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RSS Chief's thoughts on Vijaya Dashami

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/rss-c ... /1021577/0

In his speech, Bhagwat said: “It’s not important how much money has been earned. It’s important how it has been put to use, whether it has been put to good use or not.” Gadkari has claimed that his business was a social enterprise to help distressed farmers.

Bhagwat’s address also stressed the importance of character building as well as systems in fighting corruption. In an indirect criticism of the Arvind Kejriwal-led India Against Corruption, the Sarsanghachalak warned against employing anti-corruption protest methods that could lead to “aversion to system.” “Else, situation similar to Middle East countries where fundamentalists and foreign forces have created anarchic situation (could develop),” he said.

Incidentally, Gadkari had voiced similar opinions during an interaction with The Indian Express recently. “The problems in the country are not because of the system — it lies within the society. Politicians belong to the same society, where we have seen a progressive deterioration in human values,Gadkari had said.

Laying stress on value-based conduct, Bhagwat asked, “Do we reflect on ourselves? Do we discharge our duties as a society? We will have to rise and demonstrate examples of value-based conduct. Change will happen if we begin with our homes.

The RSS chief also sought to blame the media. “For every one bad thing, there are ten good things happening in the country. But good things don’t make news,” Bhagwat observed.

He invoked seven “original sins” according to Mahatma Gandhi to make his point. “Politics without principles, property without work, pleasure without conscience, knowledge without character, commerce without ethics, science without humanity and worship without sacrifice seem to mark the socio-political scenario today,” he said.

Reserving large part of his address to problems of Hindus and national security, Bhagwat sought an early law for a Ram temple at Ayodhya. “Only Ram temple will come up there,” Bhagwat said, warning against politics of votes or “driving of a wedge”. “Anything to be built for Muslims must happen outside the cultural boundaries of Ayodhya.

The RSS chief claimed attempts to “resuscitate terrorism” in Kashmir, and said the same was happening in the Northeast. He also raised the “protests in favour of anti-India forces in Mumbai”.
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Views from the Right
Straw polls

The BJP’s performance in bypolls to Lok Sabha seats vacated by President Pranab Mukherjee (Jangipur) and Uttarakhand Chief Minister Vijay Bahuguna (Tehri) appears to have brought cheers to the Sangh Parivar with its journal, Organiser, devoting prominent place to the national mood.

Its cover story declares that the bypoll results — the BJP winning Tehri and improving its voteshare in Jangipur — were serious “reverses”, cause for the Congress to be “jittery”. A news report in Panchjanya calls the Tehri result a message against “Bahuguna and Sonia” from the people, fed up with the “corruption and arrogance” of the Congress. Organiser also highlights the almost three-fold jump in the BJP’s votes in Jangipur as a recognition of the saffron party’s emergence as “a power to be reckoned” with in West Bengal.

But the Organiser article also attributes the BJP’s Tehri victory to the “united” front put up by its leaders — former CMs Bhagat Singh Koshiyari, B.C. Khanduri and Ramesh Pokhriyal Nishank — this time round. It argues that “if the same spirit would have been infused in the assembly polls the party would not have been out of power” in the first place.

Mandir and Mulayam

The Sangh Parivar has raised the alarm over what it calls “clandestine” moves by the Uttar Pradesh government for an “out of court settlement” that, “if reports are to be believed”, also includes “building a mosque within the religious boundaries of Ayodhya”. Echoing the warning issued against the move by VHP leader Ashok Singhal, the Organiser editorial wonders whether “Mullah Mulayam covets [the title of] Babar II ?”

Recounting Mulayam Singh Yadav’s history of “pandering” to Muslims, the editorial claims that unconfirmed reports suggesting a “solution favouring Muslims” hold “credence” because Mulayam’s son Akhilesh is heading the government. Apprehensive that the UPA government is also a “willing” party to these covert moves to “force a decision on Hindus”, Organiser says that Hindus will not tolerate any solution that will allow a mosque within the religious perimeters of Ayodhya. While Organiser has done an editorial, Panchjanya has published a cover story on the subject.

SIMI Red

Panchjanya has raised fears about the reportedly growing links between Naxalites and the ISI, after this claim was made by the West Bengal DGP at a recent meeting in Delhi.

Highlighting that the “banned anti-national terrorist organisation SIMI is working to “coordinate” with the ISI and Naxalites, the editorial asserts that the UPA has been in “denial” about such developments. The editorial reminds the government of “Chinese help” in allegedly making arms available to Maoists through the ISI, in order to highlight the “China-ISI” nexus in Nepal that runs counter to India’s interests.

While the editorial says the government must rise against those working behind the scenes to create an internal security challenge, it blames the “Congress and secular” mindset of the government. In this context, it also expresses its apprehensions that West Bengal CM Mamata Banerjee’s pro-minority and soft attitude towards Maoists may compound the challenge, despite the Bengal DGP flagging it.

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RamaY wrote:RSS Chief's thoughts on Vijaya Dashami

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/rss-c ... /1021577/0


Incidentally, Gadkari had voiced similar opinions during an interaction with The Indian Express recently. “The problems in the country are not because of the system — it lies within the society. Politicians belong to the same society, where we have seen a progressive deterioration in human values,Gadkari had said.
Generally politicians like to blame "society". Why do the same people become more law abiding when they migrate to more advanced economies.
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Ramachandra Guha Ten Reasons why India will not and must not become a Superpower

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From the Urdu Press
Attack on Malala

The brutal attack on 14-year old Malala Yousufzai, by Taliban for defying them on the issue of women’s education, has been the subject of immense discussion. The daily Siasat, published from Hyderabad and Bangalore, in its editorial on October 13, writes: “The murderous attack on the student (Malala) is a despicable act and the accused are being compared with animals. She had committed the only mistake of raising her voice against Taliban and launched a campaign for education of girls and against the closure of girls’ schools. The Taliban are working against Shariat on the pretext of the promulgation of Shariat.”

But the paper adds: “There is no doubt that apart from condemning this act of Taliban, the entire world is expressing concern about the treatment of this student. But why is the world community worried only about the future of this Pakistani student whereas in the entire world, particularly in the Middle East, Israel has made Palestinian girl students the target of its barbarity? In Iraq and Afghanistan, the Americans have killed a number of young and innocent girl students. At that time the world powers did not think of sympathy...”

Jamaat-e-Islami’s bi-weekly, Daawat, in a front page commentary on October 22, writes: “A girl of tender age was attacked. It was a very bad thing, and everyone is rightly condemning it... No one can deny that Malala and young girls like her should get contemporary (modern) education. Those who are opposing it deserve condemnation. And if this opposition is in the name of Islam, it is extremely regrettable. But in the global campaign for sympathy for Malala it is being seen that Islam and Islamic groups are the targets. In fact, Islamic groups are being condemned. It is being said by the media... including the Indian media, that the attitude of Taliban to women is according to the teachings of Islam.”

Delhi-based Jadeed Khabar, in its commentary on October 14, writes: “The activists of Taliban who have thrown Malala into the most extreme struggle of life and death... actually want to take Pakistan (back) to the period of medievalism. They do not have any regard for the words of the Prophet of Islam that the one who is not kind to children is not one of us.”

Obama vs Romney

IN the context of the forthcoming US presidential election, the multi-edition daily Inquilab, in its editorial on October 12, writes: “In the last four years Obama promised to forge a friendship with the Muslim world, but actually did not do anything by way of efforts to promote and stabilise friendship. Thinking of his famous ‘Cairo Address’ one cannot escape the realisation that he did not take any interest in implementing what he said... In spite of this, the Muslim world is not rejecting Obama because... Mitt Romney indicates clearly that his priority is stabilisation of the worst American traditions of supporting Israel.”

Weighing the prospects for Obama, the Delhi-based weekly Nai Duniya, in its report from Washington on October 23, says: “In the eyes of the American media, Romney has no experience of foreign policy. The people know that Obama has certainly maintained the American balance in foreign policy. It is a different matter that the Israeli lobby is displeased. But Obama has built a strong defensive wall before him by killing the al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden.”

Gadkari: the other half

AN interview of BJP president Nitin Gadkari, a relaxed conversation on board a flight, with veteran journalist Kuldeep Nayar has been published in a number of Urdu newspapers as part of Nayar’s syndicated column “Bain-us-Sutoor” (Between the Lines) and has caused much comment. Nayar writes: “The BJP president unhesitatingly confessed that if his party wants to get a majority (in Parliament), it would require Muslim votes. Turning towards me, he said, ‘You people have expressed the perception that we are anti-Muslim. The meaning of Hindutva is not an aggressive attitude against Islam. Our priority is nationalism (qaum parasti).’ I corrected his statements by saying that the country should be given priority instead of nationalism. He said, ‘Yes!’ and also gave the clarification that ‘the meaning of’ Hindutva is such an inclusive society (takseeri muashra)...’”

Blaming the Congress and its “vote-bank politics” for all the problems in the country, Gadkari said: “See, what all is happening... Some boys from among the Muslim youth are picked up and branded as terrorists. Even allegations of their involvement in some criminal acts are also framed so that they are held responsible for specific terrorist activities. What alternative remains for these poor Muslims?” But, writes Nayar, “He said in very clear terms that ‘if there ever will be a majority of Muslims in India, they would make it an Islamic State...’”

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Restitching the Subcontinent How do you solve a problem like Pakistan?
http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/ ... 09221.html
The post-World War Two partition of British India was a blood-drenched mess. Since partition, India has prospered. Bangladesh, the 1971 Indo-Pakistani war’s ******** child, remains wretched. For three decades a low-grade civil war has afflicted Pakistan, pitting urban-based modernizers against Islamist extremists reinforced by militant hill tribes. The Taliban attack on Pakistan’s Karachi naval base in May 2011 reprised the hill versus urban paradigm. Pakistan’s civil war divides its intelligence and security services, which is one reason the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff can argue (with confidence) that an element within Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agency supported the September 2011 Taliban assault on America’s embassy in Kabul.In retrospect, splitting British India into East and West Pakistan and India may have been one of the 20th century’s greatest geostrategic errors. I got a hint of this in the 1970s when I was injured at Ft. Benning, Georgia, and befriended by two Pakistani officers attending an advanced military course. My leg-length cast made walking to the mess hall a pain, so the Pakistani major and lieutenant-colonel took turns chauffeuring me in their car.One evening, in slow traffic, the major and I passed an Indian Army colonel standing on the sidewalk. The major cracked his window, yelled, and waved. The Indian colonel smiled, raised his left hand, and wiggled his fingers. The major glanced at me and with a soft chuckle said, “That man—he is my enemy.”Despite their recent war, I knew better. On at least two occasions the Indian colonel had dropped by our bachelor officers’ quarters to watch television with the Pakistanis. I had found a corner chair, propped my cast on a crutch, and learned that on the subcontinent cricket matches are a very serious matter.The major knew I grasped his irony and added, with a wistful, startling sadness: “You know .  .  . we were once the British Indian Army.”Pakistan as India’s rival? Only in cricket. India has six times Pakistan’s population and about 10 times its GDP. Year by year Pakistan decays amid corruption, Islamic terrorism, and economic rot. India’s economic surge has made it a global power. Bollywood entertains Asia. India’s Hindus and Christians and Sikhs and, yes, despite Mohammed Ali Jinnah’s contrary claim, Muslims, too, have economic opportunities. Jinnah, leader of the Muslim League and Pakistan’s first post-partition governor general, contended Muslims would never prosper if yoked by a Hindu majority. Jinnah was intellectually and politically gifted, a sophisticate with cosmopolitan taste. Sixty years of history have shown he was dead wrong
And the new reunifiers know it. Their idea is preposterous, a fantasy, but it has on its side a deeper history than the last six decades. They argue that a reunited India would give Pakistani modernizers strategic depth: economically, demographically, socially, and geographically. The geographic argument has old roots. For millennia the “tribal threat from the mountains” has vexed northern India, from the Indus valley (Pakistan’s heartland) and east beyond Delhi. The reunifiers see the Taliban and other violent factions as tribal raiders attacking the wealthy lowlands, with the goal of seizing urban wealth, imposing tribal rule, then pushing east. Antiquarian? No, insightful. Al Qaeda promotes a 10th-century misogynistic social order; it glorifies beheadings but says little about jobs. A reinvented pre-partition India would have the economic, social, and demographic depth to buffer and absorb the tribes and their turmoil. Pakistan alone does not.

The Pakistani major at Ft. Benning repeatedly told me the lieutenant-colonel was an unusual man. The day the leg cast came off the lieutenant-colonel and I went to the mess hall. Over dinner he explained the major’s comment: “I come from a hill tribe. We plaster bricks with goat sh— to keep the wind out.”The lieutenant-colonel assessed my reaction. “You know I attended graduate school in Europe. .  .  . I started life in the 12th century. I’m now in the 20th. That’s what the major means.” Then he flashed a wry smile. “He comes from the cities. I suppose, to him, I am living proof that it can be done.”
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Well they cant re-attach themselves as new parasites without changing their mind sets.
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if there is serious thinking in the American establishment of attempting a "re-stitching", I wonder how they will go about targeting the existing British-placed institutional architecture. Is Khan really finally willing to take a stance against one of the pillars of British Colonialism? if they decide to do so, they could seriously try to delegitimize the current Administrative framework. in any case, there have to be internal forces within India who can catch on to such trends before they happen and be in a position to fill the vacuum.
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if there is serious thinking in the American establishment of attempting a "re-stitching", I wonder how they will go about targeting the existing British-placed institutional architecture. Is Khan really finally willing to take a stance against one of the pillars of British Colonialism? if they decide to do so, they could seriously try to delegitimize the current Administrative framework. in any case, there have to be internal forces within India who can catch on to such trends before they happen and be in a position to fill the vacuum.
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I once posted long ago a speculation on my part that D-B gang would love to bring the Pakjabis in their fold to keep the rest of India out of power.
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How come a single state of Bharat, which is not even the top GDP contributor, not the most populated, not the largest, not the one with most fertile land and so on, can bring the excolonial master of India on to it's knees?

But how come the Moorkh Mohan Singh's govt feels so week in front of the same colonial power and pays $10b of tribute to their masters while holding that amount from Gujarat?
The answer is native nationalism. The Goras are helpless in front of people who confront them based on religious or cultural nationalism -- China and Pakistan being prime examples. They look for alienated races or people to rule over who lack a will to confront and assert themselves based on their identity. This is the reason why in any country, they go hammer and tongs after cultural and religious nationalists and try to put people alienated from their cultures into power. Nehru, MMS, etc. being prime examples. Indira Gandhi was a cultural nationalist who sent army to Bangladesh, and Goras never tired of calling her a bitch. Still they were helpless in front of her. The same with Modi.
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West should pay attention to India’s woes
Mohamed El-Erian and Michael Spence
The writers are respectively the chief executive of Pimco and a Nobel laureate in economics
http://europe.pimco.com/EN/Insights/Pag ... -woes.aspx

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/e7169aea ... z2ARJ6MCNF
mention China at almost any meeting and you will trigger lively reactions, both optimistic and pessimistic. Try Brazil and you will also receive a keen response and different views, though the country’s emphasis on inclusive growth is fairly consistent and well understood. Shift the conversation to India, however, and enthusiasm visibly declines, especially recently. This matters: the Indian economy, perhaps more so than other emerging markets, will determine political and economic developments in its region and around the world.India is also an important country for anyone worried about the detrimental role of money in politics. There has been a sharp increase in the number of millionaires that serve as parliamentarians. And if you care about the orderly rebalancing of the global economy, India’s middle classes will probably play a vital role in the shift of emerging economies to more of a consumption model.Then there are the regional dimensions. India is essential to the stability of a neighbourhood that includes other nuclear powers (China and Pakistan) and a failed state trying to recover (Afghanistan).Despite all this, the west seems to be paying too little attention to what has been going on in the Indian economy. Growth has slowed significantly. The fiscal deficit is sizeable. Internal political conflicts are increasing. India has all but stopped climbing the World Bank’s rankings of countries by ease of doing business – despite being far down the list to begin with.
hink of it this way. India operates what might be called a highly leveraged growth model. Government deficits are relatively high but manageable provided gross domestic product growth is about 8-9 per cent. Policy errors that lead to slower growth mean rapid adjustments are required to avoid a downward spiral.We suspect that there are four main reasons for the failure of India to register in the west.
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varunkumar wrote:
How come a single state of Bharat, which is not even the top GDP contributor, not the most populated, not the largest, not the one with most fertile land and so on, can bring the excolonial master of India on to it's knees?

But how come the Moorkh Mohan Singh's govt feels so week in front of the same colonial power and pays $10b of tribute to their masters while holding that amount from Gujarat?
The answer is native nationalism. The Goras are helpless in front of people who confront them based on religious or cultural nationalism -- China and Pakistan being prime examples. They look for alienated races or people to rule over who lack a will to confront and assert themselves based on their identity. This is the reason why in any country, they go hammer and tongs after cultural and religious nationalists and try to put people alienated from their cultures into power. Nehru, MMS, etc. being prime examples. Indira Gandhi was a cultural nationalist who sent army to Bangladesh, and Goras never tired of calling her a bitch. Still they were helpless in front of her. The same with Modi.
Very good observation. Perhaps for people to ponder why India cannot put the west in its place as long as it sticks to the failed concepts of (sic) secularism and (sic) socialism which are acting as double shackles to Indian majority community.
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BTW how much is SM Krishna's exit tommorrow linked to Starbucks entry into India. Given that SM Krishna's son-in-law is the owner/promoter of Cafe Coffee Day the biggest gainer from the withdrawal of political patronage to CCD will be Starbucks, right?
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http://yourstory.in/2012/10/raaci-the-n ... -in-india/

New transparent platform to increase sousveillance
Talk about exposing scams in India, the one constant weapon in the hands of the citizens has been the Right to Information Act 2005. Be it exposing– our Hon’bl Ex-President Pratibha Patil’s uncanny expenditure on flying her relatives around the country or 2G scam or other cases of corruption in India, RTI Act has been a handy tool. “Corruption can be tackled with increase in government transparency and technology provides a great way to achieve that goal,” shares Raj Shekhar Singh, Co-Founder, RAACI.

According to the Economic Times, over 3.74 lakh RTI applications have been filed in the last one year alone, 2011-12. The real question is, can we access all those 3.74 RTIs filed? Is all that information available for public to access instead of filing for the same information again? How about making all this information accessible for the public?

“The information is usually half baked even with RTI. You need to ask for specific questions to get full details. There are people who are filing 10 RTIs a day. But there are others who want the answers to the same question. Essentially, this means that people need a platform where all this information can be shared. There is no web based platform that does this. We want to be that platform. We want to provide transparency,” shares Raj who spearheads the RTI data management and is also the spokesperson for RAACI with RTI activists and other publics.

Started in August this year, Rapid Action Against Corruption in India (RAACI) was co-founded by Raj Shekhar Singh, a Ph.D candidate at UC Berkeley and Sravan Puttagunta, an NRI, a computer science engineer and an aspiring entrepreneur. The idea of building this platform came to the duo in October last year when the Anti-corruption movement had gained momentum in a serious way in India. At the same time, data.gov website was started in the U.S. providing information to citizens.

Sravan who built the technology behind RAACI from scratch believes that there are multiple opportunities to increase transparency using technology. RAACI currently has more than 150 – 200 RTIs available to the public. The idea is to crowd source the information on to the platform. This information on the website can be accessed through a direct search or by using the RTI map feature which is a user-friendly navigation map indicating all the RTIs in specific geographies in India. “We want to keep the search really uncluttered. We want it to be simple following the Google approach, staying away from the Yahoo approach,” explains Raj.

RAACI has been updated with new features which allow users who have sufficient information on a particular issue to start a campaign. Others can upload their videos, photos, information etc to back the campaign making the experience more social. They have also introduced videos to guide the users with the website. Apart from these features, RAACI intends to make all the information available to citizens also through a mobile app. Although all the technology involved have been built on their own, due to dependence on crowd sourcing, the data accumulation and categorization has been their real challenge so far. RAACI intends to be a non-profit organization. However, they also intend to create revenue streams within the website that will expand their bandwidth to hire, sustain the website etc.

As for their future plans, RAACI intends to make their service a real time service in two or three years time. “If there is an RTI about a road then take a photo and post it on our platform in real time. Right now we are focused only on India but we want to take it international. We also think that this solution is suited for all countries, not just India,” confirms Raj

Have RTIs that you would to like share with the public? RAACI can help you, take a look.
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http://www.time.com/time/subscriber/art ... 56,00.html
In Search of a New India
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recently went back to the canyon. It was not a pretty sight. A sprawling garbage dump had risen at its edge — plastic bags, rubber tires, beer cans and mineral-water bottles were strewn across the red soil. Clouds of smoke hovered over it all; the air was filled with a chemical stench. What I found is common today in India. According to the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development, 40% of Indian municipal waste remains uncollected; the figure is considerably higher in rural areas. Sometimes it feels like the whole country has been reduced to a giant dumping yard. Increasingly, I have come to see this garbage crisis as a symbol of the nation's troubled engagement with modern capitalism — reflecting a new prosperity and consumer boom, yet a reminder too of the terrible price often exacted by that boom
India has largely turned its eyes from the seamier side of development. The nation has spent the past couple of decades in a state of willful blindness — celebrating its gains, reveling in its new prestige on the world stage. This is perhaps understandable: India was down for so long, and it would be churlish to deny it a moment of triumphalism. But now India feels like it is at an inflection point — increasingly disenchanted with its current trajectory, aware of the limitations in its current model of development, yet still grasping for a new model. A recent Pew Global Attitudes survey revealed a striking decline in optimism among Indians — just 38% were satisfied with the country's direction compared with 51% a year earlier. Activists are up in arms over corruption, and citizens often block industrial and infrastructure projects in their backyards, rejecting what they perceive as the poisoned chalice of "development." The disquietude is telling — an indication that India is shedding the complacency and self-certainty of recent years, that the nation is finally asking questions of itself.
For years, politicians have told Indians the nation is on the verge of ascending to its rightful place as a world leader. The instrument of ascension was to be economic dominance. India would, in effect, beat the West at its own game. Now the shortcomings of that game have become all too apparent. It turns out that India's claim to global leadership may ultimately rest on a very different achievement — on reinventing the game, with a sustainable, more equitable model of growth that can serve as an example for troubled economies around the world
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Rajiv Gandhi assassination video suppressed, claims book

NEW DELHI: The chief investigating officer of the Rajiv Gandhi assassination case, K Ragothaman, has alleged that the then IB chief, M K Narayanan, had "suppressed a vital piece of evidence": a video tape showing "human bomb" Dhanu at the Sriperumbudur venue prior to the former prime minister's arrival.

In a book authored by him, Ragothaman said that although a "preliminary enquiry" had been conducted in connection with the missing video, Narayanan, who is now West Bengal governor, had been "allowed to go scot-free" by the chief of the special investigation team (SIT), D R Karthikeyan.

The just-published book, "Conspiracy to kill Rajiv Gandhi - From CBI files", claims that the tape, which had been taken from the videographer by IB the day after Rajiv Gandhi had been blown by Dhanu on May 21, 1991, was never shared with SIT in the investigation of the assassination.

Ragothaman wrote, "The assassin gang as per our investigation was very much in the sterile zone for more than two and half hours waiting for its target." The suppression of the video evidence helped the Tamil Nadu police get away with the claim that Dhanu had sneaked into the sterile zone after Rajiv Gandhi's arrival at the venue around 10 pm.

The tape recovered by the Tamil Nadu police was found to have interpolations in the form of Doordarshan's news bulletins about the assassination. Ragothaman therefore asserted that the tape taken by the IB officials was "the original one and that the video given to the local police was a substituted one".

The alleged manipulation, according to Ragothaman, was meant to erase video evidence of the kind of people Dhanu had interacted with at the venue, thereby sparing embarrassment to the Congress party in the middle of the 1991 Lok Sabha election. He asked: would Narayanan have dared "to damage the goal of the Congress party, irrespective of his personal affiliation to Rajiv Gandhi's family?"

Though he was formally in charge of the investigation and was therefore in the witness box for 67 days, Ragothaman wrote that he had not been taken into confidence by his superior Karthikeyan about the recovery of the tape by IB. He came to know about it later through the report of the Justice J S Verma Commission which had probed the security lapses leading to the assassination.

Besides recording "this unusual feature" of the SIT-produced tape containing news bulletins along with visuals of the venue, the commission's report reproduced a letter written by Narayanan on May 22, 1991 to the then Prime Minister, Chandrashekhar, stating that the video of the meeting was being "scanned to try and IDENTIFY THE LADY". The lady referred to in capital letters by Narayanan was of course the assassin.

In a sequel to the commission's report, the Narasimha Rao government directed SIT to hold the preliminary enquiry, case no. 1 of 1995, against Narayanan along with the then cabinet secretary and home secretary, according to the book. The case was later "buried at the behest of the chief of SIT" despite the admission made by Narayanan in his May 22 letter.

While the public got to see only the two still pictures of Dhanu taken by an LTTE-hired photographer who had died in the blast, Ragothaman's book raises questions about the whereabouts of the video in which Narayanan admitted to have seen the assassin. Why did the SIT chief not collect the video seen by the IB chief? Or, why did the IB chief not share the tape in which Dhanu was visible with him? Had there been such questions about anybody else, the book says "he would have been booked under Section 201 IPC for concealing the evidence and screening the offender".

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 012933.cms
Isn't MK Narayanan the fellow, who, as per wikileaks, giggles like a school girl when he is in the presence of American embassy officials?
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^^^ Well this is what one finds in a couple of minutes of digging -
The cable describes MK 'Mike' Narayanan as a long-time Gandhi family loyalist who is part of the traditional "coterie" around the Congress President Sonia Gandhi.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/wikileaks-na ... 013-3.html
The Indian government may have merely been posturing for public consumption in seeking extradition of LeT operative David Headley from the US about two years back, WikiLeaks has indicated.

In a cable to the US State Department on December 17, 2009 released by the whistleblower website, the then US ambassador Timothy J Roemer said former National Security Advisor M K Narayanan had suggested to him that the government was actually not keen on the extradition issue but wanted to be seen doing so.

Narayanan had told him that it was "difficult not to be seen making the effort," but that the government was not seeking extradition "at this time".


http://www.indianexpress.com/news/wikil ... n/841436/0
This does, I am afraid, bring credibility to S. Swamy's assertion that Sonia was part of the plot to liquidate Rajiv.
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Pranav wrote: This does, I am afraid, bring credibility to S. Swamy's assertion that Sonia was part of the plot to liquidate Rajiv.
Indeed. Quite so. Very much.
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Pranav and Sanku, How so? Please explain for others. Thanks, ramana
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Sri Ragotthamans view has credibility.He was involved in the investigation.One of the key investigators,in fact.

But why did he keep quiet all these days.

Also MK Narayanan was a key player in the crushing of LTTE in 2009.As an aside,tamizh nationalists accuse Narayanan and Shiv Shankar Menon and Nirupama Rao and Congress of being anti-tamil.In particular MKN and SSM are accused of being a Kerala cabal.
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ramana wrote:Pranav and Sanku, How so? Please explain for others. Thanks, ramana
MK Narayanan being close to Sonia and covering up the Rajiv case, and also being subsequently rewarded with plum posts. Points needle of suspicion at Sonia.
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^^ One of the best arguments I have read in a long time.
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I think MKN roots are IB and the take of IB is to protect INC. The cover-up could be to prevent any knowledge of how Dhanu's visit was facilitated by INC themselves. It could have been a INC sacrifice/bali to get re-elected.
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Revealed: Nehru wanted to scuttle Sardar’s Hyderabad plan
TUESDAY, 30 OCTOBER 2012 23:54 KUMAR CHELLAPPAN

Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel, the then Deputy Prime Minister and Home Minister of India, whose 137th birth anniversary is on October 31, was insulted, humiliated and disgraced by the then Prime Minister, Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru, during a Cabinet meeting. “You are a complete communalist and I’ll never be a party to your suggestions and proposals,” Nehru shouted at Patel during a crucial Cabinet meeting to discuss the liberation of Hyderabad by the Army from the tyranny of the Razakkars, the then Nizam’s private army.

“A shocked Sardar Patel collected his papers from the table and slowly walked out of the Cabinet room. That was the last time Patel attended a Cabinet meeting. He also stopped speaking to Nehru since then,” writes MKK Nair, a 1947 batch IAS officer, in his memoirs “With No Ill Feeling to Anybody”. Nair had close ties with both Sardar and VP Menon, his Man Friday.
Though Nair has not written the exact date of the above mentioned Cabinet meeting, it could have happened during the weeks prior to the liberation of Hyderabad by the Indian Army. Operation Polo, the mission to liberate Hyderabad from the Nizam, began on September 13, 1948 and culminated on September 18. While Sardar Patel wanted direct military action to liberate Hyderabad from the rape and mayhem perpetrated by the 2,00,000 Razakars, Nehru preferred the United Nations route.

Nair writes that Nehru’s personal hatred for Sardar Patel came out in the open on December 15, 1950, the day the Sardar breathed his last in Bombay (now Mumbai). “Immediately after he got the news about Sardar Patel’s death, Nehru sent two notes to the Ministry of States. The notes reached VP Menon, the then Secretary to the Ministry. In one of the notes, Nehru had asked Menon to send the official Cadillac car used by Sardar Patel to the former’s office. The second note was shocking. Nehru wanted government secretaries desirous of attending Sardar Patel’s last rites to do so at their own personal expenses.

“But Menon convened a meeting of all secretaries and asked them to furnish the names of those who want to attend the last rites of Patel. He did not mention anything about the note sent by Nehru. Menon paid the entire cost of the air tickets for those secretaries who expressed their wish to attend Sardar’s last journey. This further infuriated Nehru,” Nair has written about his memoirs in the corridors of power in New Delhi.

Nair’s friendship with Patel began during the former’s posting in Hyderabad as a civilian officer of the Army. “I was a bachelor and my guest house was a rendezvous of all those in the inner circle of the then Nizam of Hyderabad. Every night they arrived with bundles of currency notes. We gambled and played flash and the stakes were high. During the game I served them the finest Scotch. After a couple of drinks, the princes and the junior Nawabs would open their minds and reveal the secret action plans being drawn out in the Nizam’s palace. Once intoxicated, they would tell me about the plans to merge Hyderabad with Pakistan after independence. This was information that no one outside the Nawab’s close family members and the British secret service were privy to. But I ensured that this information reached directly to Sardar Patel and thus grew our relation,” writes Nair.
The relation between Nair and Sardar Patel was such that the former’s director general in the ministry told him once: “Sardar Patel keeps an open house for you.” Nair, who worked in various ministries during his three-decade long civil service career, writes that the formation of North East Frontier Service under the Ministry of External Affairs by Nehru and the removal of the affairs of the Jammu & Kashmir from the Ministry of Home Affairs are the major reasons behind the turmoil in both the regions.

“This was done by Nehru to curtail the wings of Sardar Patel,” Nair has written. Though Sardar Patel was known as a no-nonsense man devoid of any sense of humour, Nair has written about lighter moments featuring him. The one centres around VP Menon with whom Patel had a special relation. Menon had to face the ire of Nesamani Nadar, a Congress MP from Kanyakumari, during his visit to Thiruvananthapuram in connection with the reorganisation of States. Nadar barged into Menon’s suit in the State Gust House and shouted at him for not obeying his diktats. Menon, who was enjoying his quota of sun-downer, asked Nadar to get out of his room. A furious Nadar sent a six-page letter to Sardar Patel trading all kinds of charges against Menon. “He was fully drunk when I went to meet him in the evening and he abused me using the filthiest of languages,” complained Nadar in his letter.

Sardar Patel, who read the letter in full asked his secretary V Shankar, an ICS officer: “Shankar, does VP take drinks?” Shankar, who was embarrassed by the question, had to spill the beans. “Sir, Menon takes a couple of drinks in the evening,” he said. Sardar was curious to know what was Menon’s favorite drink. Shankar replied that Menon preferred only Scotch. “Shankar, you instruct all government secretaries to take Scotch in the evening,” Sardar told Shankar. Nair writes that this anecdote was a rave in the Delhi evenings for a number of years!

Balraj Krishna (92), who authored Sardar’s biography, told The Pioneer that Nehru was opposed to Babu Rajendra Prasad, the then President, travelling to Bombay to pay his last respects to Patel. “But Prasad insisted and made it to Bombay,” said Krishna. MV Kamath, senior journalist, said though Nehru too attended the funeral of Patel, it was C Rajagopalachari, who delivered the funeral oration.

Prof MGS Narayanan, former chairman of Indian Council of Historical Research, said there was no reason to disbelieve what Nair has written. “But his memoirs did not get the due recognition it deserved. It is a historical chronicle of pre-and post independent India,” he said.

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ramana wrote:I think MKN roots are IB and the take of IB is to protect INC. The cover-up could be to prevent any knowledge of how Dhanu's visit was facilitated by INC themselves. It could have been a INC sacrifice/bali to get re-elected.
Hmmmmm? The common sentiment is INC == Nehru-Gandhi family; and Nehru-Gandhi family == INC. So why would INC sacrifice the only member at that time? His mother and brother - IG and SG were no more. Kids were too little.

So what is INC? The second level leaders, who thrive on a Nehru-Gandhi family member at the helm?
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