Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 05 Nov 2012 22:21

Lalmohan wrote:why not just "butt-bandits"?
that will be much more familiar territory...

Simply call it CVE= Canadian Visa Exercise and invite PPO= Paki Paedo Officers as guests.

rgsrini · Post by **rgsrini** » 05 Nov 2012 22:36

Shiv wrote:RPG I bet

Saar... this is Allah's own pakistan we are talking about here. Here, vacuum bulbs are known to cause devastating explosions killing scores of people. We kafirs are out of our elements here and not qualified to comment on the ability of a speeding bullet.
The kafir Mythbusters' experiment was also flawed, as they did not use a "pure, green" bullet.

MurthyB · Post by **MurthyB** » 06 Nov 2012 01:45

Anindya wrote:Given that we're letting in Pakis into India for treatment unabated, how long before this starts happening in Indian hospitals?

Pakistani man slaughters Indian doctor in Abu Dhabi hospital

A Pakistani man armed with a big knife stormed a private hospital in Abu Dhabi on Thursday, grabbed an Indian urologist and slaughtered him like a sheep inside his clinic after the death of his relative at the hospital.

Sources at Al Ahli Hospital in the capital said the man went straight into the urology clinic and stabbed the 58-year-old doctor before forcing him on his knees and slitting his throat. Other doctors and staff members rushed into the clinic but it was too late.

Not only will it happen, but "hindus" will be blamed for that as well

Abu Dhabi: Pakistani kills an Indian Christian doctor. The shadow of fundamentalism

» 11/03/2012 12:36
INDIA - UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
Abu Dhabi: Pakistani kills an Indian Christian doctor. The shadow of fundamentalism
by Nirmala Carvalho
The suspect, Mohamed Abdul Jamil, has stabbed Dr. Rajan Daniel eight times. Motives still unknown. The Global Council of Indian Christians (GCIC) criticizes the silence of the Indian government and denounces growing radicalism - Hindu and Muslim - in India.

Mumbai (AsiaNews) - A brutal murder has schocked the Indian Christian community in the UAE: Dr. Rajan Daniel, 58, urologist at the Ahalia Hospital in Abu Dhabi, was killed with eight stab wounds by Mohamed Abdul Jamil, 46, a Pakistani national. A native of Kerala, the Christian doctor died on the spot: after hearing the screams, the hospital staff found his body in a pool of blood, with a deep wound in the throat. The police immediately stopped Jamil, who for the moment remains the only suspect. The incident occurred in the late afternoon of November 1. The victim leaves behind a wife and a son. For Sajan George, president of the Global Council of Indian Christians (GCIC), this murder indicates the "fragility of the Christian community" abroad, and denounces the "grave indifference" of the Indian authorities before the "brutal murder of a Christian."

For the moment, the investigation has failed to reveal any details. Jamil was native to eastern Pakistan's tribal areas, but it is not clear what brought him to Abu Dhabi. The police believe that the murderer may have been a patient of the victim, but the causes of his action are still unknown.

According to Sajan George "the government of Pakistan and its allies have already started to make up stories to justify the murder." However, he adds, "lack of justice on the part of the Government of Kerala, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Prime Minister" is even more serious, which still have failed move to "give justice to the doctor's family."

Although it happened in the UAE, the president of the GCIC says the assassination of Dr. Daniel once again highlights the problem of "growing fundamentalism" and the "radicalization of Indian society." These elements, said Sajan George, "are putting lives, property, and public liberty and private life of the Christian community in danger " in addition to "affecting the development of the nation, in particular the well-being of the poor and marginalized."

For the Christian leader, ultra-nationalist Hindu and the silence of the authorities are responsible for these radical movements. However, he notes, "even the tentacles of Islamic fundamentalism are spreading." In this sense, the Popular Front of India (PFI), a confederation of Muslim organizations in the country, which has about 800 thousand members, is a primary concern.

I guess Pakistan is part of India, we just don't accept it!

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 06 Nov 2012 02:05

That's Asianews.it - a Catholic Church sponsored site... That ridiculously slimy propagandistic approach is its modus operandi.

Well, I suppose when one spares all one's delicacy for the choirboys - there's not much left behind. Or should I say not one behind left (borrowing from Hitchens).

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 06 Nov 2012 02:11

Its clear from the way the Jahil (its spelled incorrectly in the news report!) killed the doctor that he was indugling in ritual slaughter. So there is a streak of fundamentalism in the guy.

Note how Al Khaleej spun the story as stabbed in the neck etc...

Nandu · Post by **Nandu** » 06 Nov 2012 02:18

It appears, reading between the lines of various stories, that the Paki had prostate problems, and maybe the doc had to probe his musharraf for a physical exam, which made him upset. Maybe he enjoyed it too much and then felt guilty about it.

Meanwhile, true to form, the Paki ambassador to UAE has come out and made a statement that "criminals are not tagged by their nationalities".

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 06 Nov 2012 02:26

Nandu,OTH, no difference between TSP ambassodors and criminals. Recall the wife beater Paki ambassador?

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 06 Nov 2012 03:31

To paraphrase 'any criminal is an ambassador for Pakistan'

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 06 Nov 2012 03:39

Although it happened in the UAE, the president of the GCIC says the assassination of Dr. Daniel once again highlights the problem of "growing fundamentalism" and the "radicalization of Indian society." These elements, said Sajan George, "are putting lives, property, and public liberty and private life of the Christian community in danger " in addition to "affecting the development of the nation, in particular the well-being of the poor and marginalized."

For the Christian leader, ultra-nationalist Hindu and the silence of the authorities are responsible for these radical movements. However, he notes, "even the tentacles of Islamic fundamentalism are spreading." In this sense, the Popular Front of India (PFI), a confederation of Muslim organizations in the country, which has about 800 thousand members, is a primary concern.

Today I examined an impeccably tattooed five digit number on the arm of a 90 year old woman. It was the most horrifying thing I recall ever seeing.

Although this statement should suffice, I do find an exquisite irony in an Indian Christian declaiming so imbecilically.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 06 Nov 2012 04:50

Shaashtanga wrote:Tough guy 'Taliban Khan'
Read it all how Im the Dim spinned the story of his detention at Toronto Airport.

Clicky

Thanks for the link. I had read on Slashdot, people waxing eloquent about the US DHS highhandedness based on Mr. Imran Khan's tweets. I submitted the above story a couple of days back (anonymously - I don't know whether that made the difference) and asked them to run it in the interest of fair play, but it hans't made it yet. I don't think it will make it given the site's heavy Libertarian tilt.

partha · Post by **partha** » 06 Nov 2012 06:41

Best part of 10 predictions on Pakistan by Aakar Patel

http://tribune.com.pk/story/460283/ten- ... -pakistan/

7) What the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and al Qaeda want in order for them to stop their war against the Pakistani state, is full-dress sharia. Essentially, they are demanding the implementation of Article 227 of Pakistan’s Constitution, which also assures Pakistanis sharia. The TTP and al Qaeda are on the right side of the law. I would say they are also on the right side of the consensus.

This is awesome on so many levels!

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 06 Nov 2012 07:08

Its not about PAKISTAN, Its just one more Indian showing off himself.
Rich and powerful India let see. Why these indian foregate about that still in 2012 girls been burnt and killed by their parents as young as 6 months and 1 years bc they are just girls, people dying of hunger, girls trade is open and in all part of india only In goa you can buy a as young as 11 year old girl for 4-5 dollars.One of the most corrupt country
Well these are just just few example about(rich and powerful) india……..wake up MR Patel…..
dont just look Pakistan’s problems, the problem Pakistan is Facing last 40 years any other country in the world would have long gone from the Map of the world.

Err....last time I checked, 41 years ago Pakistan did go off the map. We are talking about Bangladesh west soon to be Baluchistan north.

arun · Post by **arun** » 06 Nov 2012 07:20

X Posted from the Pakistani Role in Global Terrorism thread.

Appeal partly(?) funded by the Government of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan loses out. Sentence of Mohammadden Terrorist and “Daughter of Pakistan” Aafia Siddiqui upheld.

Strange to see the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, a country that the US has provided aid of some USD 20 Billion plus and counting since 9/11, openly fund the defence in a US court of an individual who tried to kill US citizens

:

Pakistani scientist loses appeal on shooting conviction

By Basil Katz | Reuters – 2 hrs 45 mins ago

NEW YORK (Reuters) - A U.S. appeals court on Monday upheld the conviction and 86-year prison sentence of a Pakistani neuroscientist for shooting at FBI agents and soldiers after her arrest in Afghanistan. ………………………….

Siddiqui's defense lawyers, three of whom were paid by the Pakistani government, argued that their client had shot at the U.S. officials in a panic and said the crime lacked any connection to terrorism. ………………………

Reuters via Yahoo News

Nandu · Post by **Nandu** » 06 Nov 2012 07:26

Christine Fair has a strong oped in FP saying it is time for the US to start punishing Pakistan, in particular by withdrawing any support for it in the Kashmir issue.
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2 ... ?page=full

The United States must remove itself from the Indo-Pakistan equation by declaring that it no longer entertains Pakistan's central claims on Kashmir. Pakistan was not entitled to Kashmir -- the legality of Pakistan's claims is specious and always has been. The king of Kashmir had a right to accede to India, which he exercised. The accession was prompted by the invasion of Pakistani marauders that enjoyed extensive direct civilian and military support.

Equally important, the United States should rubbish any notion that Pakistan has a positive role to play in ameliorating the suffering of Kashmiris, due to the decades of terrorism it has sponsored in Kashmir and beyond. The United States should instead focus its energies on persuading New Delhi to make right by the reasonable and constitutional demands of its Kashmiri citizenry. This will put India on the spot to follow through and consolidate a hard-won peace.

I know people here won't like that last part (or Fair, in general).

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 06 Nov 2012 07:41

She seems to be on and off her meds often.

MurthyB · Post by **MurthyB** » 06 Nov 2012 08:06

Nandu wrote:Christine Fair has a strong oped in FP saying it is time for the US to start punishing Pakistan, in particular by withdrawing any support for it in the Kashmir issue.
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2 ... ?page=full

Equally important, the United States should rubbish any notion that Pakistan has a positive role to play in ameliorating the suffering of Kashmiris, due to the decades of terrorism it has sponsored in Kashmir and beyond. The United States should instead focus its energies on persuading New Delhi to make right by the reasonable and constitutional demands of its Kashmiri citizenry. This will put India on the spot to follow through and consolidate a hard-won peace.
I know people here won't like that last part (or Fair, in general).

That is an example of how a TFTA power "stands down". When you are wrong, and have no point, you still "stand" down, instead of sit down, complete with erect schlong I presume. The irony is that the US never had any standing in Kashmir; no "locus standi".

Nandu · Post by **Nandu** » 06 Nov 2012 08:31

MurthyB, they have no locus standi, but they have influence in South Block.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 06 Nov 2012 08:42

The United States should instead focus its energies on persuading New Delhi to make right by the reasonable and constitutional demands of its Kashmiri citizenry.

She seems to be forgetting the precondition which Pakistan has to fulfill.

darshhan · Post by **darshhan** » 06 Nov 2012 10:29

Anujan wrote:She seems to be on and off her meds often.

She is definitely not on meds when she writes about Pakistan. Anybody who thinks Christine Fair is just another columnist is most likely wrong. IMO, she is an agent(can't say which agency; could be a three letter alphabet soup agency or could be Dept of state) and is just doing her job which is to voice her agency's opinion in Media and public.

I am also willing to bet she has slept with one or more than one senior officers in Pakistani Army.

GopiD · Post by **GopiD** » 06 Nov 2012 10:45

AFGHANISTAN UNDER ATTACK FROM PAK'S PROXY....

http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/s ... 121105.htm

What are your thoughts on the situation in Afghanistan today?

The situation is critical. Afghanistan is under attack from proxy militants who are beholden to the military-security services complex based in Rawalpindi that rules Pakistan. Since it remains a devastated land that is being destabilised by a much larger neighbour, it cannot withstand this pressure. The United States, which had a duty to shield the country from foreign aggression, is at least publically in denial of this, and seems determined to have done with the drama. The prognosis is for many more years of war.

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 06 Nov 2012 12:05

BBC reporting:
UN adds Haqqani network to Taliban sanctions list

The UN Security Council's Taliban sanctions committee has added the Pakistan-based Haqqani network, accused of attacks in Afghanistan, to its blacklist.

The network's Abdul Rauf Zakir, who has planned many suicide attacks, was also added to the sanctions list.

A travel ban, arms embargo and asset freezing are part of the sanctions.

It comes after the US said it had decided to designate the group a terror network, subjecting it to sanctions.

What are the Pakis going to do now that their good taliban have now been declared as bad taliban.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 06 Nov 2012 12:52

Jhujar wrote:
Lalmohan wrote:why not just "butt-bandits"?
that will be much more familiar territory...
Simply call it CVE= Canadian Visa Exercise and invite PPO= Paki Paedo Officers as guests.

true, there are so many possibilities

for instance, young abdul used to think that PMA Kakul meant Pakistani Military Academy Kakul until he went there. then he discovered that it meant "Penetrate Me Analy Kakey LOL"

it is easy for pakistan to be the butt of such jokes. there are jokers on both sides of the border, south asia is suffering from a jokerist problem. I worry about saffron jokers. I also worry about joke drones.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 06 Nov 2012 13:02

matrimc wrote:
The United States should instead focus its energies on persuading New Delhi to make right by the reasonable and constitutional demands of its Kashmiri citizenry.
She seems to be forgetting the precondition which Pakistan has to fulfill.

Why this kolaveri? Unfair has been sensible, barring this one sentence, which I guess was included so people don't think the article was drafted by a BRF mullah. Even this simply says they are our citizens, a word not carelessly chosen...

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 06 Nov 2012 14:52

^^^
Right. Have you read this one by any chance?
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2 ... _nuke_deal
And this?
http://www.foreignaffairs.com/fa_subcontent/64845/67507

kish · Post by **kish** » 06 Nov 2012 15:01

This is 3 days ago.

26/11 only for cricket? India kabaddi team to play Pak for Asia Cup

With Indo-Pak cricket ties still struggling to normalise after 26/11 Mumbai terror attacks, Kabaddi has taken a lead in resumption of the sporting relations between both the neighbouring countries.

Significantly, Kabaddi is the only sports which remained unaffected by the bilateral freeze between both the countries after 26/11 Mumbai terror attacks in 2008. Pakistan Kabaddi team visited India to participate in the last two World Cups in 2010 and 2011.

The event will not only boost in bridging the bilateral gaps, it is also expected to be big platform for the promotion of the game.

India hosted the inaugural Kabaddi World Cup in 2004 and had won all four events, the last in 2011.

Kabaddi takes centre stage for Pakistan and India

As long-frozen cricket ties between Pakistan and India thaw, the two arch-rivals are also hoping this weekend's Kabaddi Asia Cup can bring the countries closer together.

"We are here as ambassadors of India," said Gurmail as his team were given a rousing welcome at the Wagah border crossing.

"We believe we can cash in on the popularity of kabaddi to bring the people of India and Pakistan closer."

3 days later.

India walks out in protest, Pakistan wins Asian Kabaddi C’ship

Pakistan clinched the Asian Kabaddi Championship title after arch-rivals India walked out of the field in protest against the referee’s decision to penalize their coach.

The Pakistani team, cheered on by a full house at the Punjab stadium, was leading by 40 points against 31 when the Indian team refused to carry on the contest.

The Indians protested when their coach, Goormel Singh was shown a green card by the referee for constantly disturbing the final by entering into the ground frequently to protest decisions.

Goormel twice interrupted the play when he walked onto the field to protest a line decision by the match official.

The third time the Pakistani team also protested over his constantly disturbing the final match.

How to defeat 4 time champion, India? Cheat.

Still the p-secs in India want peace with pakistan, knowing very well that they ultimately cheat.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 06 Nov 2012 15:17

P=secs have not given enough blood to the Peace process and they have much iof thier family in UQ or USA. its only the Aam Aadmi is dying, a terror attack of Paki origin if leads the leadership of p-secs to death then you will see downhill skying from them.

The problem is the leadership and p-sec brigade don't identify themselves as Mango Indians and the country in general.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 06 Nov 2012 15:41

Something is cooking in Pakistan (of course, this is an unerstatement in a country known for its many conspiracies every day). First, Gen. Kayani clearly warned the judiciary not to overstep especially in matters pertaining to the military. On that very day, the CJP crowed that the judiciary had sky-high powers and the security-paradigm hitherto followed was all humbug and real seurity came from empowering people. Not to be outdone, Pres Zardari said that democracy was now fully established in the 'Land of the Purest' and that the PA was only giving 'dying kicks' if at all. Of course, he didn't say PA explicitly but we all know what he meant by 'old order'. All on the same day.

So, the three stakeholders have spoken. Let's wait and watch.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 06 Nov 2012 15:57

C.Fair says, among other things, "In 1989, an indigenous insurgency erupted in Kashmir in response to gross Indian malfeasance." These South Asian experts, even when finally accepting Pakistani perfidy, want to retain some stick with them to beat India. The myth of 'indigenous insurgency' is one such stick.

The joke is when she says, ". . . the United States should stop seeking to buy Pakistan off with civilian aid or military assistance. This has not worked." After 50 years ? The US is building a case for another divorce.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 06 Nov 2012 16:54

Fazlur Rehman doubts Malala attack

PESHAWAR: Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam-Fazl chief Fazlur Rehman has cast doubt on the Taliban shooting of child activist Malala Yousufzai, saying he did not believe she was hit in the head.

The teenager narrowly escaped with her life when Taliban shot her on her school bus last month for daring to campaign for the right of girls to go to school. Doctors in Britain, where she is now recovering, say the bullet from the attack grazed her brain and travelled through her head and neck before lodging in her left shoulder.

But the pro-Taliban cleric Fazl dismissed the medical assessment. "Pictures shown on social media have shown the whole character as suspicious because there was no sign of injury after the dressing was removed," he told a rally in northwest Pakistan on Sunday.

"It shows that the bullet did not hit her in the head."

Images released by the Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Birmingham showed Malala with much of her head covered with a blue towel. The cold-blooded attempt to murder the youngster shocked the world, but many in Pakistan believe the incident was part of a plot to defame the Taliban and Islam.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 06 Nov 2012 16:58

SSridhar wrote:Something is cooking in Pakistan (of course, this is an unerstatement in a country known for its many conspiracies every day). First, Gen. Kayani clearly warned the judiciary not to overstep especially in matters pertaining to the military. On that very day, the CJP crowed that the judiciary had sky-high powers and the security-paradigm hitherto followed was all humbug and real seurity came from empowering people. Not to be outdone, Pres Zardari said that democracy was now fully established in the 'Land of the Purest' and that the PA was only giving 'dying kicks' if at all. Of course, he didn't say PA explicitly but we all know what he meant by 'old order'. All on the same day.

So, the three stakeholders have spoken. Let's wait and watch.

Part of the recipe?

Don't cross the limits: Gen. Kayani

An army official, who wished not to be named, confirmed Kayani was responding in part to the Supreme Court judgement, when last month Chief Justice of Pakistan Iftikhar Chaudhry ruled the military must stop interfering in politics, a rare challenge to Pakistan's powerful generals.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 06 Nov 2012 17:10

chetak wrote:Don't cross the limits: Gen. Kayani
An army official, who wished not to be named, confirmed Kayani was responding in part to the Supreme Court judgement, when last month Chief Justice of Pakistan Iftikhar Chaudhry ruled the military must stop interfering in politics, a rare challenge to Pakistan's powerful generals.

Now, the CJP says that the SC is the Final Authority and nobody should be mistaken about it.

The chief justice directed the counsel to refrain from speaking on the subject, adding that, the court was “seriously considering the statements made yesterday”.

During the hearing, the chief justice also sought all press releases issued by the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) since the May 2 incident.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 06 Nov 2012 17:26

SSridhar wrote:{quote="chetak"}Don't cross the limits: Gen. Kayani
An army official, who wished not to be named, confirmed Kayani was responding in part to the Supreme Court judgement, when last month Chief Justice of Pakistan Iftikhar Chaudhry ruled the military must stop interfering in politics, a rare challenge to Pakistan's powerful generals.

Now, the CJP says that the SC is the Final Authority and nobody should be mistaken about it.

The chief justice directed the counsel to refrain from speaking on the subject, adding that, the court was “seriously considering the statements made yesterday”.

During the hearing, the chief justice also sought all press releases issued by the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) since the May 2 incident.{/quote}

CJP seems to be seriously seeking an appointment with a sunroof lever that will miraculously materialize in his immediate vicinity!!

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 06 Nov 2012 17:37

my4THcousin wrote:It will be a fitting reply to communal forces in India and to demonstrate Mumbai spirit if an Indo-Pak cricket match is held in Mumbai on 11/26.

We can also come to know the extent of Hindu radicalization of Mumbai if Mumbaikars boycot the games.

Perhaps the fellow of First Fart can offer his mother to visiting Paki umpires in the name of Aman-Ki-asha

A nation deserved to be destroyed when it loses it's shame and resilience.

I would agree. The silent majority cannot sit quite in this madness between Indian communal forces and Pakistani misguided forces.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 06 Nov 2012 18:30

CJTSPA takes on Allahs army ?!

Looks as if his sunroof lever needs fixing

Chetak beat me to this

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 06 Nov 2012 18:55

darshhan wrote:
I am also willing to bet she has slept with one or more than one senior officers in Pakistani Army.

. Quite possible this happened and then the dejection after she learnt their true colors. Ditto that Indian american journo and freidn of late Daniel Pearle, her name slips from my mind even though we discussed her many times.

But coming to the substance of what Fair didi says, I think there is a zero chance of any US administration accepting her formula for dealing with this abomination. TSP is just too crucial in US geo-political calculus.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 06 Nov 2012 19:49

CRS,
Nomani.

Should have been Nowomani!

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 06 Nov 2012 23:05

SSridhar wrote:Something is cooking in Pakistan (of course, this is an unerstatement in a country known for its many conspiracies every day). First, Gen. Kayani clearly warned the judiciary not to overstep especially in matters pertaining to the military. On that very day, the CJP crowed that the judiciary had sky-high powers and the security-paradigm hitherto followed was all humbug and real seurity came from empowering people. Not to be outdone, Pres Zardari said that democracy was now fully established in the 'Land of the Purest' and that the PA was only giving 'dying kicks' if at all. Of course, he didn't say PA explicitly but we all know what he meant by 'old order'. All on the same day.

So, the three stakeholders have spoken. Let's wait and watch.

SS, Even Nigthwatch is concerned:

http://www.kforcegov.com/Services/IS/Ni ... 00209.aspx

Pakistan: The Chief of Army Staff General Kayani issued a strong warning to the Supreme Court of Pakistan to stop meddling in Army affairs.

According to the official press release,

"While speaking to a group of officers at GHQ, Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani said, "as a nation, we are passing through a defining phase. We are critically looking at the mistakes made in the past and trying to set the course for a better future. An intense discussion and debate is natural in this process.

No individual or institution has the monopoly to decide what is right or wrong in defining the ultimate national interest. It should emerge only through a consensus, and all Pakistanis have a right to express their opinions. The constitution provides a clear mechanism for it….

Armed Forces draw their strength from the bedrock of the public support. National security is meaningless without it. Therefore, any effort which wittingly or unwittingly draws a wedge between the people and Armed Forces of Pakistan undermines the larger national interest. While constructive criticism is well understood, conspiracy theories based on rumours which create doubts about the very intent, are unacceptable. …

While individual mistakes might have been made by all of us in the Country, these should be best left to the due process of law. As we all are striving for the rule of law, the fundamental principle; that no one is guilty until proven, should not be forgotten. Let us not pre judge anyone, be it a civilian or a military person and extend it, unnecessarily, to undermine respective institutions.

All systems in Pakistan appear to be in a haste to achieve something, which can have both positive and negative implications. Let us take a pause and examine the two fundamental questions; One, are we promoting the rule of law and the Constitution? Two, are we strengthening or weakening the institutions? In the ultimate analysis, all of us would have served Pakistan better if history and our future generations judge us positively.

Comment: Kayani's comment is a warning to the Supreme Court to ease back on pressure. Kayani stated the Army position that the Court is not superior to other institutions, by which he means the Pakistan Army, which is a very curious construction of the constitution. His comment is a reaction to the recent conviction of a former Chief of Army Staff and a former Director General of Interservices Intelligence for illegally influencing elections in 1990, involving Benazir Bhutto.

Kayani appears to be justifying Pakistan Army meddling in civilian politics and his statement is understood in Pakistan and India as a warning to the Supreme Court of Pakistan to stop its investigation of Pakistan Army corruption in the past.

The Chief Justice remains defiant. The Chief Justice of Pakistan, Iftikhar Chaudhry, showed no indication of backing down in a speech he made Monday after General Kayani issued his statement. He cited the Supreme Court's constitutional "supremacy over all other institutions and authorities."

"Gone are the days when stability and security of the country was defined in terms of number of missiles and tanks as a manifestation of hard power available at the disposal of the state," Chaudhry told a group of civil servants. He said it means providing people with "social security and welfare nets and to protect their natural and civil rights at all costs."

Comment: Chief Justice Chaudhry's Supreme Court is on a crusade to coerce the institutions of government to abide by the constitution and the law. It succeeded in forcing the Prime Minister to request the Swiss government to reopen an investigation of the President of Pakistan. Now it has reached a decision on a case against the Army that has languished for 16 years, according to the court records.

Chaudhry's stated aim is to have the Army acknowledge its subordination to the Constitution under all circumstances in order to prevent future military takeovers. However, the Pakistan Army does not acknowledge that as an absolute obligation and considers itself co-equal, if not superior, to all other institutions of government.

The bottom line is that the constitutional struggle in Pakistan has moved beyond the Supreme Court's successful initiative to compel the National Assembly to obey the law, abide by the constitution and acknowledge the legal supremacy of the Supreme Court. Now the Court wants the Army to do the same and the Army is resisting. Nevertheless, this is the best chance the Court has ever had to consolidate respect for the rule of law and elected government in Pakistan and to prevent future military takeovers

I think its the CJP who wants to send the kabila guards back to the barracks and they are sullen and refuse to go back having tasted pwoer without accountability.

The CJP already has the kabila sardar on the ropes with the Swiss bank investigation going on.
Lets see how it turns out.
But odd that Nightwatch throws in India into the picture!

nachiket · Post by **nachiket** » 06 Nov 2012 23:11

^^CJP saar. CJP.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 06 Nov 2012 23:19

^ Blasphemy only

jeehard

Baikul · Post by **Baikul** » 06 Nov 2012 23:35

May they live in even more interesting times. May I not run out of popcorn and coke.