Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 21 Nov 2012 22:42

Mihaylo wrote:All of India and Indians feel better today, since we have at last exacted fair, equitable and swift revenge for the mischief committed in 2008. Miscreants should know that they cannot take India for granted in the future. The world should learn from us brave kuffars.

-M

Hanging Kasab for 11/26 is ONLY the first step in the process.

It by no means a Fair or Equitable or Swift justice/revenge for what happened on 11/26.

What next? Some paki pig dying of natural causes is a fair/equitable/swift justice by GoI?

But where GoI fails to do its duty, Karma catches up

QUETTA: A bomb tore through a security forces vehicle escorting schoolchildren home from school on Wednesday, killing four personnel and a woman in the southwestern city of Quetta, police said.

The attack also wounded more than 20 people, officials said.

“The target was an army vehicle which was escorting a school bus carrying children of local army officers from different schools,” Quetta city police chief Hamid Shakeel told AFP.

Mihaylo · Post by **Mihaylo** » 21 Nov 2012 22:46

RamaY wrote:
Mihaylo wrote:All of India and Indians feel better today, since we have at last exacted fair, equitable and swift revenge for the mischief committed in 2008. Miscreants should know that they cannot take India for granted in the future. The world should learn from us brave kuffars.

-M

Hanging Kasab for 11/26 is ONLY the first step in the process.

It by no means a Fair or Equitable or Swift justice/revenge for what happened on 11/26.

What next? Some paki pig dying of natural causes is a fair/equitable/swift justice by GoI?

But where GoI fails to do its duty, Karma catches up

Notice the sarcasm, will ya

-M

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 21 Nov 2012 22:47

Lilo wrote: Looks like mapping of paki strategic facilities by independent analysts (like our own Gagan ji) using opensource , especially of Paki clown jewel storage facilities is causing lot of takleef to gernails in Pindi .
May such eyes peering into pakiland increase exponentially in the future, may the Israelis, the French, the Iranians, the Russian, the German ,the Japanese and every one with capability be forced to keep their eyes and ears trained on the Pakis 24x7, so that Pakis will perpetually feel like they are in the middle of some freak (reality) show .

For above to happen and for Pakistan to live upto its name and become "Pakistan" (Pakhanistan) it needs more Islam. May Arrah arrange for it.

Lilo ji

You missed a key point here. The YYY gang can map and target Pakistan all they want using their satellites etc.,

It is the Pakis who cannot use those services or technologies for internal mapping because Paki jernails can control the ISPs and Mobile Service providers in Paki proper.

Looks like the greeners are a bigger threat to Paki-jewels than YYY.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 21 Nov 2012 22:48

Mihaylo wrote: Notice the sarcasm, will ya

-M

I did that sir. But some of our WKKs cannot see certain things... so made few things clear for them...

jash_p · Post by **jash_p** » 21 Nov 2012 23:53

It defy all the logic !!! Need some research why still no WKKs, Arundhatibanu bin Roy, Amnesty International, Human right watch groups are not condeming Terrorist Government of India for hanging innocent babe in the wood, toy gun totting Kasab!!!
(or are they still bussy in verbal mob lynching terrorist Natanyahu and Isreal for killing innocent Hammas freedom fighters?)

Note: They even did not allow to perform his last rite of 72s and did not hand his body to his parent.

krithivas · Post by **krithivas** » 22 Nov 2012 00:39

^^^ You asked for it and for your entertainment only ^^^^

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/k ... 120502.ece

Strongly condemning the execution of Ajmal Kasab, human rights activists on Wednesday questioned the “unusual speed” with which his mercy petition was rejected and also the secrecy surrounding the execution at the Yerawada prison in Pune.
The ‘Peoples’ Movement against Death Penalty’ headed by Justice VR. "Kasab" Krishna Iyer described the execution as an “unconstitutional act” of the State. Saying that Kasab was brainwashed in the name of God to unleash unmindful act of terror, the organisation, in a statement, said poverty and ignorance of the “young boy” was exploited and he was used as a killing instrument by the hatred politics of a neighbour State.

JwalaMukhi · Post by **JwalaMukhi** » 22 Nov 2012 00:56

krithivas wrote:
Strongly condemning the execution of Ajmal Kasab, human rights activists on Wednesday questioned the “unusual speed” with which his mercy petition was rejected and also the secrecy surrounding the execution at the Yerawada prison in Pune.
The ‘Peoples’ Movement against Death Penalty’ headed by Justice VR. "Kasab" Krishna Iyer described the execution as an “unconstitutional act” of the State. Saying that Kasab was brainwashed in the name of God to unleash unmindful act of terror, the organisation, in a statement, said poverty and ignorance of the “young boy” was exploited and he was used as a killing instrument by the hatred politics of a neighbour State.

Aw right. It is time shri Krishna Iyer to put his money where his mouth is. He should immediately send all his income to those poor villagers, so atleast they will have a chance to move away from poverty and ignorance. Better yet, he could be in ground zero of the terrorist cauldron and guide them in a proper way. When is Shri.Krishna Iyer ready to share his wealth (including knowledge) with such young boys so they won't be swayed by hatred politics. Maybe if he is nice he could persuade, the other Iyer (shri mani shankar iyer) to accompany him to the poverty stricken village. the Iyer duo would work wonders in the pakiland and make it a paradise.
This would atleast prevent getting such innocent boys from falling prey to the "unconstitutional acts" of a secular neighboring state.

neeraj · Post by **neeraj** » 22 Nov 2012 01:14

Here we go again...

Suicide attack near Rawalpindi Imambargah; 12 dead, 36 injured

I wonder what overall score is all over TSP today.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 22 Nov 2012 01:24

Sincere question. What is the difference between a imambargah and a mosque? Is it due to the whole we can't call it a mosque movement?

Mihaylo · Post by **Mihaylo** » 22 Nov 2012 01:59

Anujan wrote:Sincere question. What is the difference between a imambargah and a mosque? Is it due to the whole we can't call it a mosque movement?

Shia's call it imambargah, Sunnis call it masjid. Everybody else calls it...never mind

-M

partha · Post by **partha** » 22 Nov 2012 02:00

imambargah = dargah where an imam is buried, right?

Mihaylo · Post by **Mihaylo** » 22 Nov 2012 02:03

partha wrote:imambargah = dargah where an imam is buried, right?

Dargah = sufi shrine where a sufi saint is buried

-M

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 22 Nov 2012 02:25

Anujan wrote:Sincere question. What is the difference between a imambargah and a mosque? Is it due to the whole we can't call it a mosque movement?

Wahabandi disgust for superstitious and fawning worship at gravesites.

baargah = hall of audience, court
imam = some saint or mystic who was considered god's gift to mankind in his time.
Similarly,
dargah = doorway, sill, threshold, palace, court, audience

Only Allah should be worshiped as per Wahabandi ideology, not these so-called mystics.
But reciting salawaat (worship and dependence on Prophet Mohammad) brings the greatest merit and makes Allah happy.

These mystics are mostly wali-at-taaghoot - their powers and charisma came from an impostor false god that sometimes appears to be the true God. Khomeinist Iran's establishment scholars have determined that all pre-Islamic Iran's kings, etc were waliye taaghoot, which explains their alluring reputation and achievements, and also explains why the Prophet had an especial contempt and spite for the Iranian culture and religion, even though his religion seems to have much in common with the old Persian religion.

A true waliullah (who derives his sustenance from Allah and not taaghoot) teaches one to only venerate Allah and be submerged in the Prophet pbuh.

partha · Post by **partha** » 22 Nov 2012 02:56

Pak shia genocide database:

http://criticalppp.com/archives/132675

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 22 Nov 2012 02:58

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 308805.cms

Ajmal Kasab's execution: Taliban shocked, Lashkar says he will 'inspire' more attacks

ISLAMABAD: Mohammad Ajmal Kasab who was executed in Pune's Yerwada jail on Wednesday for his role in the 26/11 Mumbai massacre four years back, was a "hero" who will inspire more attacks, said a senior commander of the Pakistani militant group accused of masterminding the attack.

"He was a hero and will inspire other fighters to follow his path," the commander of Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) told Reuters by telephone from an undisclosed location.

Taliban 'shocked'

Pakistan's Taliban movement expressed shock on Wednesday over India's execution of Kasab.

"There is no doubt that it's very shocking news and a big loss that a Muslim has been hanged on Indian soil," Taliban spokesman Ihsanullah Ihsan told Reuters.

What a very, very strange choice of words for the Taliban to use, no?

I mean, sure, it COULD be a combination of Madrassa Pinglish and/or DDM reportage mistranslation. But somehow I don't think so.

There is a clear difference in tone between the response of LeT and the response of the TTP. The LeT response is exactly what one would expect: elevating Kasab to heroic martyrdom, vowing revenge in the form of more attacks, a combination of Islamic outrage and Pakjabi feudalistic bluster.

But the Talibs? They haven't expressed rage or a desire for vengeance. Instead, they seem to be almost taunting Amir Hafeez Suar. So sad, so shocking, that your piglet was hanged by the Indians! What kind of a two-bit unprofessional and impure Ghazi organization are you running, from the pockets of the Munafiq Army!

partha · Post by **partha** » 22 Nov 2012 03:03

Mihaylo wrote:
partha wrote:imambargah = dargah where an imam is buried, right?
Dargah = sufi shrine where a sufi saint is buried

-M

From encyclopedia of Muslim American History -

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 22 Nov 2012 03:03

Kasab was a pawn, punish those behind him'

Marvi Sirmed, a Pakistani human right activist, says that it will make no difference until those who supported Kasab during Mumbai carnage are not punished.

Sirmed told rediff.com, "He was mere a mohra (pawn); the network is still present, so it will make no difference."

(true, it is the beginning of justice but not the end)

He maligned the country; his acts gave a wrong message to rest of the world that Pakistani is producing terrorists.(he is most famous of all , but tsp is the crucible of terrorism0 As he has earned disrepute to Pakistan so it was the desire of Pakistani to see him punished," said Sirmed.

(he got caught red handed. If he got killed it would have been blamed on sdres)

According to Marvi, all the people behind Kasab should be brought into justice and they should be punished. "The Pakistan army and establishment should work hard to nab all people who are bringing disrepute to the country."

(asking a thief to catch himself)

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 22 Nov 2012 03:16

Burney offers help to bring Kasab's body to Pakistan

According to the News Tribe, a UK−based bilingual news website that covers Pakistan, South Asia, Middle East and the UK, the Ansar Burney Trust International has "got in touch with the Indian government to bring the body of Ajmal Kasab, executed in India on Wednesday morning, back home".

Burney, according to the website, asked the family and relatives of Kasab "to contact him soon in order to initiate efforts bringing back his body to Pakistan."

"The concerned family could contact the trust on this address: Office No.6, Hasan Manzil, Araam Bagh Road or at office contact number: 021−32623382," it said.

"The renowned activist for human rights said he has no sympathy with Kasab's crime but since he was a Pakistani, hence it was the right of his family to bury him. He vowed to bring his body back to Pakistan on humanitarian grounds," the news website added.

partha · Post by **partha** » 22 Nov 2012 03:29

^
Kasab was a pawn, punish those behind him'

Marvi Sirmed, a Pakistani human right activist

According to Marvi, all the people behind Kasab should be brought into justice and they should be punished. "The Pakistan army and establishment should work hard to nab all people who are bringing disrepute to the country."

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 22 Nov 2012 04:51

Nuke Dimension to Pakistan Policies - G.Parthasarathy, BusinessLine
Excerpts

Pakistan today has the fastest growing nuclear weapons programme in the world, and the third largest nuclear arsenal.

It is not, however, any Pakistani General who has displayed the ability to explain why and how all this is happening. This responsibility has been left to Pakistan’s most savvy and hardnosed lady journalist turned diplomat, Maleeha Lodi, known for her close links with the Pakistan military establishment.

Drawing attention to why Pakistan is rejecting international calls for concluding a “Fissile Material Cut off Treaty” (FMCT), she avers that Pakistan has been concerned by India’s conventional and strategic military build-up.

Predictably, she refers to the India-US Nuclear Deal and the subsequent waiver of sanctions by the Nuclear Suppliers’ Group on India, as contributing to Pakistan’s accelerated development of nuclear weapons.

In the course of her rationalisation of Pakistan’s feverish quest for new nuclear weapons, Maleeha Lodi explains that after having recently acquired plutonium capabilities, Pakistan can now miniaturise its nuclear weapons, which was not possible earlier, with heavier enriched uranium warheads.

Over the past one-and-a-half decades, China has obligingly provided Pakistan with unsafeguarded plutonium reactors and reprocessing facilities. She avers that Pakistan is committed to developing a “full spectrum deterrence”, including the use of tactical nuclear weapons.

India’s forbearance

India’s nuclear doctrine makes it clear that while India will not be the first to use nuclear weapons, it will respond with nuclear weapons if there is a nuclear attack on “Indian territory, or on Indian forces anywhere”. Pakistani military officials evidently believe that India would not resort to the use of nuclear weapons if its forces are attacked with tactical nuclear weapons.

George Perkovich, an American non-proliferation analyst, recently noted: “Thus far the people of South Asia have been spared the potential consequences of deterrence instability because Indian leaders have not retaliated violently to terrorist attacks on iconic targets. India’s “neo-Gandhian” forbearance was counter to the prescriptions of deterrence and cannot be expected to persist as new leaders emerge in Delhi”.

While Pakistan has not formally enunciated a nuclear doctrine, the long-time head of the Strategic Planning Division of its Nuclear Command Authority, Lt Gen Khalid Kidwai, told a team of physicists from Italy’s Landau Network in 2002 that Pakistan’s nuclear weapons were “aimed solely at India”.

Kidwai added that Pakistan would use nuclear weapons if India conquers a large part of Pakistan’s territory, or destroys a large part of Pakistan’s land and air forces. Kidwai also held out the possibility of use of nuclear weapons if India tries to “economically strangle” Pakistan, or pushes it to political destabilisation.

This elucidation, by the man who has been the de facto custodian of Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal for over a decade and a POW in India in 1971-73, was a precise formulation of Pakistan’s nuclear thresholds. Since India has no intention of wasting resources in a prolonged conflict with Pakistan or by seizing its populated centres, Pakistan should be left in no doubt that even a “neo-Gandhian” Indian leadership would not sit by idly, in the event of a repeat of the 26/11 style terrorist attack.

Too yielding by far

It is interesting that despite a large portion of Pakistan’s army now being deployed on its borders with Afghanistan, confident that India will not take advantage of this development, the army should be adding new facets to its nuclear doctrine.

While the Zardari Government is sincere in seeking to improve ties with India, Pakistan today faces a situation where the army chief General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani publicly warns the judiciary and the elected Government not to mess with serving or retired army officers accused of corruption and manipulating elections.

The sad reality, however, is that it is India that has yielded ground on terrorism continuously after the 26/11 attack, starting with the surrender at the Sharm el Sheikh talks.

India has in all but name resumed the Composite Dialogue Process, despite receiving no assurances either on an end to terrorism, or on bringing the masterminds of 26/11 to justice.

The least we should have done is to insist on the centrality of action by Pakistan on terrorism in the dialogue process.

Feting Interior Minister Rahman Malik is hardly going to make any difference in the minds of the Pakistan military which, not too long ago, barred Malik from entering its headquarters in Rawalpindi.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 22 Nov 2012 09:46

link

Your first choice is In the Name of Honor by Mukhtar Mai.

It’s by this amazing woman, though it’s an ‘as told to’ book written by a French journalist working through an interpreter. She talked to her about how she became known around the world because of this episode where she was raped, essentially at the order of a village council in Pakistan because one of the local big families said her brother, who I don’t think was even a teenager, had allegedly assaulted one of their daughters. In fact, he had only been talking to her. But it escalated and at the end of the day, because that was an assault on the honour of this family, they insisted on getting their own back.

This was an official punishment?

Well, it’s difficult, because there are these village councils which are not empowered to do this, but they do…

They do it anyway?

They sort of grow out of a tradition where they were the government, though they’re not any more. Anyway, what’s amazing is that it was horrible, obviously, and she spent a week locked away in her house, but then, instead of what normally happens in these circumstances, which is that the woman just retreats in shame, the village mullah, rather than letting them get away with it, said in Friday mosque that this was a wrong. So then the police felt they had to do something about it and they actually interviewed her.

While they tried to get her to cover it up, it very swiftly snowballed and she was at the centre of this international incident and the people who did it were prosecuted, which doesn’t happen very often. Then it was appealed, and now it’s a mess and still hasn’t been decided by the supreme court of Pakistan, but the key thing is that in doing this she drew attention to the possibility that instead of retreating in shame you should shame the people who did it. Because it drew international attention she got support from around the world and she got money and won prizes and started a centre which has two schools, a girls school and a boys school, though she herself is not literate.

She is an amazing woman, who, instead of doing what she was expected to do, resisted, and as a result women contacted her from all over Pakistan and she tries to support them. She argues against these honour killings and assaults but also for the human rights and the dignity of women in Pakistan.

Why have you chosen it particularly now?

She is one of my heroes and this is a book about how someone who grasps dignity, which is a form of honour based in our humanity, can resist the world of the negative side of honour, where women are punished because they are pawns in a game of honour between men.

chandrabhan · Post by **chandrabhan** » 22 Nov 2012 12:49

Yesterday, I witnessed the Pawkiness of a 'Liberal Pawki elite' first hand. Peeved at this South Asia nonsense, feeding my troll, I put a polite tweet to Smt Marvi sirmed & Sh Raja Rumi stating the following..

@MarviSirmed @rajarumi , I respect you people for your forthright views but let me gently remind you that Pawkistan is not 31st province of Indian Union to demand power, money, trade (Mostly free). U r free nation & pls stop this SouthAsia nonsense"

The reply was from Smt Marvi sirmed calling names and F***off stating that it is about their roots. I reminded them the place called south Asia is nowhere on the map & their roots lie in a Geography called 'Indian Sub COntinent' & We as Indians are pretty happy, Satisfied with our Identity. In case you have problem with your identity, please seek to change yours not besmirch/embroil Brand India. It was hilarious to see that she replied with more abuses and I simply asked her to now show 'Pakiness' & then more abuses and finally she blocked me.

I have some questions to the Shiv Garu & S Sridhar,
1. I understand the need for Pawkis to create a new narrative of their existence and need to have sense of identity. they are too Embarrassed to accept that PAwk identity has failed but accepting Indian identity is also Haraam to them. What needs to be done from our side to counter this 'South Asia' Nonsense?

2. I do meet lot of these 'South Asia' types who come to meet my family for something or other due to some CON party understanding, How do I gently manage this euphemism (South Asia) at a personal level.

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 22 Nov 2012 13:37

@MarviSirmed @rajarumi , I respect you people for your forthright views but let me gently remind you that Pawkistan is not 31st province of Indian Union to demand power, money, trade (Mostly free). U r free nation & pls stop this SouthAsia nonsense"

The reply was from Smt Marvi sirmed calling names and F***off stating that it is about their roots. I reminded them the place called south Asia is nowhere on the map & their roots lie in a Geography called 'Indian Sub COntinent' & We as Indians are pretty happy, Satisfied with our Identity. In case you have problem with your identity, please seek to change yours not besmirch/embroil Brand India. It was hilarious to see that she replied with more abuses and I simply asked her to now show 'Pakiness' & then more abuses and finally she blocked me.

Save the twitter interaction as images and post them to sites like this or other well known sites, along with a short write-up. The intent is to keep exposing the Parasitic nature of the Pakistanis - I expect that more and more Indians will start using some form of social media to form their opinions over the next 3-5 years.

I see this approach used effectively in some interactions by people who oppose Islam in the US.

Sagar G · Post by **Sagar G** » 22 Nov 2012 14:32

chandrabhan wrote:2. I do meet lot of these 'South Asia' types who come to meet my family for something or other due to some CON party understanding, How do I gently manage this euphemism (South Asia) at a personal level.

Congratulation on your successful pisk exercise and regarding your second question (even though I am not the one to whom you asked for advice but would still shamelessly give it to you

) do continue with your Indian subcontinent line while dealing with the "south asian" types, document their responses and post them here so that we know how deep has this rot taken root and what needs to be done to remove it.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 22 Nov 2012 14:47

chandrabhan wrote: 1. I understand the need for Pawkis to create a new narrative of their existence and need to have sense of identity. they are too Embarrassed to accept that PAwk identity has failed but accepting Indian identity is also Haraam to them. What needs to be done from our side to counter this 'South Asia' Nonsense?

Well, IMO, we have to keep telling the truth as you just did to Marvi Sirmed & Raza Rumi. We have to also educate our own countrymen & women that even rebellious Pakistanis like Ms. Sirmed, rebelling against the trajectory of Pakistan and the Establishment, have an innermost Pakistaniyat which is hatred for Hindu India. There is therefore no possibility of the twain ever meeting.

BTW, I don' t know why the 'Indus People' identity, as proposed by historian Dani and then picked up by Aitzaz Ahsan, has not caught on in TSP land. The idea appeared to be to overcome the identity crisis by referring to their own ancient region as their very own identity. That would have put paid to the Pakistani need to hug the American invented South-Asia identity.While they got a geo-political identity through Pakistan, they have been unable to shrug of the several millennia old cultural identity and the Indus People identity would have been a good try. I am sure, it is very easy to shred to pieces this identity too.

Jimmah wanted exclusivity but did not bargain for this lumping together with India.

2. I do meet lot of these 'South Asia' types who come to meet my family for something or other due to some CON party understanding, How do I gently manage this euphemism (South Asia) at a personal level.

In conversations, I repeatedly and deliberately say Indian Subcontinent whenever somebody says South Asia. Some of these people do not know why Pakistan wanted a separate identity in the first place and why Pakistanis living abroad later sought refuge in a South Asian and increasingly now even Indian identity. While you are at it, explain to these CON crowd how that is being helped by the CON leadership. You would have done immense service to the nation.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 22 Nov 2012 15:03

Turnng memory into Asset - Ayesha Siddiqa, The Hindu

Recently, while travelling around Punjab, especially Okara and its adjoining districts, I realised the influence of the LeT/Jamaat-ud-Dawaa (JuD) network in central Punjab. There are clear signs of the outfit’s presence, visible through massive wall-chalkings and display of banners signed ‘Jamaat-ud-Dawaa’ that exhort people to jihad. The banners even give cell numbers for jihad volunteers to call and offer their services. In any case, Okara is not only Kasab’s but also Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi’s home district. Lakhvi is a LeT commander who was arrested by Pakistan soon after the Mumbai attacks.

Talking to the people of the area one gets a sense that this militant network has consolidated itself much more in north and central Punjab than in south Punjab. The latter subregion is considered more notorious for jihad but there are other outfits there that have greater sway than LeT. This is mainly due to the relative popularity of Deoband ideology in south Punjab compared to the LeT’s Ahl-Hadith ideology.

With its headquarters in Muridke, which is near Lahore and about 200 kilometres from Okara, the LeT/JuD network seems to have consolidated itself in the urban and semi-urban centres of north and central Punjab where there is a growing and almost natural audience for the more sophisticated — or glib — Ahl-Hadith ideology and narrative than the comparatively less suave Deobandi {this then is the battleground for the Talibanwho want to extend their reach. Once that happens, the transformation of Pakistan would be complete. Not that, Ahl-e-Hadees are amy less dangerous. But, the Taliban are not under PA control and are answerable to none} or the pre-modern Barelvi and Sufi religious discourses. People living in the semi-educated environments of these small towns seem to be attracted to the textual evidence of god that Ahl-Hadith religious scholars like Hafiz Saeed provide. As a result, these preachers have not only acquired religious power but also social and political power.

Neat divisions

The LeT and its subsidiary JuD have neatly divided their operations in the area: the fund-raising is done under the JuD banner, and may refer to jihad but tends to focus more on establishing welfare operations in other parts of the country, now especially in Baluchistan; the LeT, on the other hand, pushes into the villages looking for volunteers.

Some of the JuD’s madrassa operations in the rural areas are also used to show off to urban supporters of the group, who are then spurred to contribute more in terms of money or other resources.

In recent months Hafiz Saeed has visited Okara and adjoining districts on several occasions for fund raising and successfully managed to collect millions of rupees.

The jihad in Kashmir and now against America are two slogans which make for successful fund-collection campaign.

At one level, Hafiz Saeed seems inclined towards rebranding himself as an agent of welfare and relief work. His handlers do not allow him to sell internal jihad or societal change so an external jihad is needed for marketing. As for Ajmal Kasab he is now a symbol that will be used to produce more Kasabs. The only question is when and where this new generation of Kasabs be used.

vina · Post by **vina** » 22 Nov 2012 16:00

Major Butt (trust him) drops a particularly pungent goat dropping of wisdom on the Mumbai attacks.

Ajmal Kasab

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 22 Nov 2012 16:05

Egyptian President Morsi also drops out of Islamabad summit

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 22 Nov 2012 18:28

Exactly as predicted.
Imran Khan's Party demands Execution of Sarabjit Singh in retaliation for Kasab

Following the quick and secret execution of terrorist Ajmal Kasab in Pune on Wednesday, former cricketer Imran Khan's party Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) has demanded the hanging of Indian prisoner Sarabjit Singh in retaliation who has been convicted and sentenced to death on terrorism charges in Pakistan, reports Times Now.

In a demonstration organized by the party in Multan, PTI leader Naeemullah Khan said, "India waited for less than a month after the final verdict by their judiciary and we are protecting the terrorists for the last eight years."

Blaming the Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari, he said that the president was the biggest hurdle to execution of terrorists on death row in the country.

kish · Post by **kish** » 22 Nov 2012 18:31

neeraj wrote:Here we go again...

Suicide attack near Rawalpindi Imambargah; 12 dead, 36 injured

I wonder what overall score is all over TSP today.

Thanks be to Allah, the score has improved.

23 killed, 54 injured in Pakistan suicide blast

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 22 Nov 2012 18:39

Subhanallah...

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 22 Nov 2012 19:21

kish wrote:
neeraj wrote:Here we go again...

Suicide attack near Rawalpindi Imambargah; 12 dead, 36 injured

I wonder what overall score is all over TSP today.
Thanks be to Allah, the score has improved.

23 killed, 54 injured in Pakistan suicide blast

Should this not be posted in Pakistan's minorities Thread, strangely none of India MSM is covering this.

archan · Post by **archan** » 22 Nov 2012 19:57

India needs to take out terror targets in Pakistan - Brigadier Gurmeet Kanwal (retd)

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 22 Nov 2012 19:57

^ love it when happens in pindi.

SSridhar, you are our oracle.

JwalaMukhi · Post by **JwalaMukhi** » 22 Nov 2012 20:07

chandrabhan wrote:Yesterday, I witnessed the Pawkiness of a 'Liberal Pawki elite' first hand. Peeved at this South Asia nonsense, feeding my troll, I put a polite tweet to Smt Marvi sirmed & Sh Raja Rumi stating the following..

Aha aha please to correct them. It is actually "Sooth Arapia" and not "sooth ah-see-Yah" who live by the motto of "sooth Kaami" ing only.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 22 Nov 2012 21:13

Following the quick and secret execution of terrorist Ajmal Kasab in Pune on Wednesday, former cricketer Imran Khan's party Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) has demanded the hanging of Indian prisoner Sarabjit Singh in retaliation who has been convicted and sentenced to death on terrorism charges in Pakistan, reports Times Now.

Mr Imran Khan will be responsible for the death of one Mr Fazul Guru.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 22 Nov 2012 22:28

I am a bit puzzled at TSP's (and probably Unkil's) gambit after Kesba's hanging. Why would the bad Taliban threaten India? Doesn't make any sense. After all, pigLeTs, that Kesab was part of, are nothing but TSPA/ISI in mufti, and bad Taliban is fighting TSPA/ISI, and so why would they intervene on the side of TSPA/ISI? Doesn't make sense. Gurus, please explain

http://news.yahoo.com/pakistan-taliban- ... 42280.html

Also, I expect TSP to do something in retaliation. Perhaps hang poor Sarabjit? If they do that, I think it will surely lead to some kind of tension, at the very least MMS's pappi jhappi will be put on hold. But then again, TSP wants the pappi jhappi and the moolah that goes with it, so they may not.

I watched NDTV, TimesNow, where the usual suspects, Shehzaad, Hilaley chutiyas etc. While they were putting up this usual bravado mocking India, that they don't care about Kesab's execution etc, their sorry faces tell a different story. I expect TSP will do something. Hope Indian security apparatus at all levels are prepared.

JwalaMukhi · Post by **JwalaMukhi** » 22 Nov 2012 22:47

CRamS wrote:I am a bit puzzled at TSP's (and probably Unkil's) gambit after Kesba's hanging. Why would the bad Taliban threaten India? Doesn't make any sense.

It makes all the sense to drum up this nonsense as if this is a new threat. Taliban(good/bad or ugly) has always been a threat to India. It is imperative that Kasab needs to replace Osama bin laden as the new and the freshest loss to the ummah. When the talibs start forgetting about the humiliating death of their beloved icon Osama, it is a win win for all the taliban handlers across the globe. Expect more breast beating and martyring of Kasab in the near future in all the western press.

It is not so gentle nudge for the talibs to divert their attention and focus on India. Osama who? asks the talibs soon.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 22 Nov 2012 22:54

CRamS wrote:I am a bit puzzled at TSP's (and probably Unkil's) gambit after Kesba's hanging. Why would the bad Taliban threaten India? Doesn't make any sense.

They are orphans and they need attention.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 23 Nov 2012 00:10

Guys, just a minute. I know my friend R-man will say there is no conspiracy at all, but we all know the kind of indirect terrorist games US plays against India. So assuming "somebody" has instigated "bad Taliban" to take up the revenge for Kesab's hanging, who could that be? Who stands to benefit? Can anybody deny that bad Taliban directing its energy and resources on India will not benefit TSP? In fact, TSP might even make up with bad Taliban if the bad Taliban were to point its guns at India alone. Does bad Taliban directing its energy on India benefit US in any way? Could it be that US can do an equal equal and say see, bad Taliban is a threat to both India and TSP, and as its munnas, both must fight bad Talib than fighting each other. Remember, late Holbrooke tried to give life to the fraud, "for the first since independence, India, TSP, and US face a common threat". Lots of chess board maneuvers possible.