Dom Perignon Allah!!kish wrote:neeraj wrote:Here we go again...
Suicide attack near Rawalpindi Imambargah; 12 dead, 36 injured
I wonder what overall score is all over TSP today.
Thanks be to Allah, the score has improved.
23 killed, 54 injured in Pakistan suicide blast
CRS, that is explainable. All of those groups (bad Taliban, TSPA, pigLeT etc) are all jostling for the same space. The 'bad Taliban' has to take control of the Punjab if they have to achieve their ambition of taking over nuclear TSP. We already know South Punjab has been within the 'bad Taliban' control for a few years now (confirmed by many including Ayesha Siddiqa'a article posted above). Taking a tough stand over a mujahid pigLeT son of Central Punjab, launching revenge attacks for him etc. would win over pigLeTs there. This is the calculation of the bad Taliban. They are quick to grasp opportunities.CRamS wrote: Why would the bad Taliban threaten India? Doesn't make any sense. After all, pigLeTs, that Kesab was part of, are nothing but TSPA/ISI in mufti, and bad Taliban is fighting TSPA/ISI, and so why would they intervene on the side of TSPA/ISI? Doesn't make sense.
if we ever decide to develop the capability, and till the time we develop the capability, and till the time we develop balls to take out high profile targets, there are other ways to keep pakis in check...errrrrrrr like not demilitarising Siachen may be?
SSridhar wrote:Egyptian President Morsi also drops out of Islamabad summit
Pakistan is a failed state. And with Pakistan as a member, D-8 is going to go nowhere.SSridhar wrote:Pak blasts raise concerns over D8 leaders' security - Anita Joshua in The Hindu
Not in this article, CRamS avare, but in all his Siachen related articles.CRamS wrote:Sum, where does he say that big brother part. I didn't see it.
JHANG – A Pakistan Air Force training plane crashed in Hasnainabad area of Shakir Kot in Jhang district on Thursday, killing the pilot.
I am confused onlee.the plane was on a routine training mission when it crashed near Thal Firing Range. He said there was report about the martyrdom of pilot of the aircraft. However, the spokesperson did not state causes of the crash.The locals are reported to be saying that they saw the aircraft before it plunged to the ground. They saw fire was erupting from the jet before the crash.According to sources, rescue workers pulled a body from the wreckage of the aircraft.
Could this be yet anther JF-17 whose parachute did not open?Gagan wrote:Cheena tayyara not flying higher than mountains, but plunging deeper than ground onlee.
PAF aircraft crashes near Jhang, pilot killedJHANG – A Pakistan Air Force training plane crashed in Hasnainabad area of Shakir Kot in Jhang district on Thursday, killing the pilot.I am confused onlee.the plane was on a routine training mission when it crashed near Thal Firing Range. He said there was report about the martyrdom of pilot of the aircraft. However, the spokesperson did not state causes of the crash.The locals are reported to be saying that they saw the aircraft before it plunged to the ground. They saw fire was erupting from the jet before the crash.According to sources, rescue workers pulled a body from the wreckage of the aircraft.
Report clearly says that the pilot burned to death, and got "cremated" onlee
How can he be a martyr hain ji?
Also, if soosai bummer dies by burning, how can they be martyrs hain ji? This burning is a hunood way not the pure way.
This was the quote from Sh Raza rumi & commentary by Smt Marvi Sirmed that angered me and I wrote back to stop this nonsense of South Asia, Sorry 'Sooth Asiya'Anujan wrote:One fellow is director of Jinnah institute and runs Pak tea house. The other is PTI reporter from Isloo.
By calling it "populist justice" he is equating Kasab's hanging (after proper trial, proper representation, appeal in high court, appeal in Supreme court, clemency petition) with mob lynching of blasphemers in Pakistan.@Razarumi
#Kasab hanged. Just a slice of populist justice for Mumbai attacks. Let's work to clean South Asia of inequalities which create Kasabs!
B4st4rds cant stop equal==equal even when their chaddis are torn off.
PAF bought planes without parachute so that when the ghazi bc pilots see the saffron bandits , they don't eject. .Aditya_V wrote:Could this be yet anther JF-17 whose parachute did not open?
A community demonstrates its secular and pluralistic credentials where it is a majority. As minorities, all communities make claims of tolerance because it’s in their self-interest. On the Indian subcontinent, which they know by the beautiful name Burr-e-Sagheer, Muslims are in a majority in three corners. West (Pakistan), north (Kashmir), east (Bangladesh). They are a minority in two regions. The centre they called Hindustan, from Sirhind, the head of Hind, to the Tapi river. From Surat, on the south bank of the Tapi, begins Dakhin. There is a continuity across the three geographical areas where Muslims are a majority. It is neither secular nor plural.
First let’s see it in Pakistan’s constitution.
Sovereignty in that nation belongs not to Pakistan’s citizens and voters, but “to Allah Almighty alone”. Minorities get “adequate provision” to “freely profess and practise their religions and develop their cultures”. In 1951, the word “freely” was inserted. In 1985, it was removed. In 2010, it was reinserted. This is a commonplace in Muslim states, and I shall explain why later.
Pakistan’s constitution says the “principles of democracy, freedom, equality, tolerance and social justice as enunciated by Islam shall be fully observed”. How much democracy, freedom, equality and tolerance?
In Pakistan, no Sikh can become president [Article 41 (2)], no Christian can become prime minister (Article 91-5). The real villain is, of course, the Hindu. This is what Pakistani children are taught in class V: “The Hindu has always been an enemy of Islam” and “Hindus worship in temples, which are very narrow and dark places, where they worship idols”. In class VI: “Hindus live in small, dark houses” and Partition happened because the Congress “demanded that the Muslims should either embrace Hinduism or leave the country” (taken from A.H. Nayyar and Ahmed Salim’s work The Subtle Subversion).
To become a Pakistani legislator one must be “not commonly known as one who violates Islamic injunctions” (Article 62-1d), must have “adequate knowledge of Islamic teachings and practises obligatory duties prescribed by Islam” (Article 62-1e). Interior minister Rehman Malik was in September unseated by the Supreme Court, which observed that he was not a good enough Muslim. In Pakistan, you don’t decide what faith you belong to: Islam will determine this. Punjab’s finance minister Rana Asif Mahmood (also fired this year by the Supreme Court) is a Christian, as was his father, Rana Taj Mahmood. A few months ago, someone mistakenly recorded Asif Mahmood’sfaith in the national database as Islam. Mahmood now cannot change this because the punishment for leaving Islam is death. Once a Muslim, even by someone’s mistake, always a Muslim. This is not the saying of some cleric, it is the order of Pakistan’s chief justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry.
“Secular” is an allegation in Pakistani politics. It is a word of abuse. Its meaning is “la-deen” (outside Islam).
Now Kashmir.
The warriors of independence from India are Islam’s warriors, not secularists. No need to look too far to prove this. The two biggest Kashmiri leaders represent Islamic conservatism (Umar Farooq, the head cleric or Mirwaiz of Srinagar) and Islamic radicalism (Ali Shah Geelani of Jamaat-e-Islami). Both men want Shariah.
The freedom fighters are called Muhammad’s soldiers (Jaish-e-Muhammad), Muhammad’s army (Lashkar-e-Taiba) and Muhammad’s helpers (Harkat ul-Ansar, now known as Harket ul-Mujahideen). The freedom fighter is a mujahid, his cause is jihad against Hindus.
Will azadi from India mean Kashmir will be relocated to Arabia? No, it will remain on the Indian subcontinent, north of Jammu, west of Ladakh.
Kashmir’s azadi means freedom from India’s secular constitution. Azadi is the right of Kashmiri Muslims to persecute Kashmiri non-Muslims because that is what Shariah stands for in Pakistan as we have seen.
Now Bangladesh.
The high culture of all Bengalis was Hindu because it is Rabindric. The politics of Bangladesh is split on whether this should continue (the position of Sheikh Hasina’s Bangladesh Awami League) or be dismantled and made Islamic (the position of Khaleda Zia’s BNP, or Bangladesh Nationalist Party), which is allied with the Jamaat-e-Islami).
Like in Pakistan, Islam is the religion of the state in Bangladesh. This was the doing of dictators. Hasina promised her Hindu voters she would change that democratically but couldn’t. This is because the majority of Bangladeshi Muslims prefer an Islamic state to a secular one. Bangladesh was a third Hindu at Partition. It, today, is about a 10th Hindu.
Bismillah ir Rahman ir Rahim was inserted into the Bangladesh constitution and removed by the Supreme Court. This has become a major issue in politics.
I spoke earlier about the unease of Pakistan with the word “freely” when offering non-Muslims the right to practise their faith. This is because the Islamic state defines itself through discrimination. In fact, a state becomes Islamic through demotion of non-Muslims. Jizya, the tax for being born Hindu, was applied, then removed, reapplied and then removed by Maratha force during the Mughal period. The same thing, as we have seen, is happening in Pakistan’s constitution.
The second aspect of Muslim majority on the subcontinent is the depopulation of its minorities. Pakistan was 70% Muslim at Partition, today it is 97% Muslim. Having got rid of minorities, Muslims then turn on themselves. Takfiri (declaring one another kafir (non-believer) has been the primary pastime of Muslims through their history.
Since 2000, 10 times more Muslims have died on the subcontinent in religious violence at the hands of fellow Muslims than at the hands of Hindus. There is great discrimination, great oppression of Muslims on the subcontinent, but it is mostly from fellow Muslims.
Hindus are better off under Hindu majority. But the truth is that the Muslim is also better off under Hindu majority because he’s protected from his own mischief under Islam.
There’s a bomb ticking in Pakistan’s constitution. It is Article 227 (1): “All existing laws shall be brought in conformity with the injunctions of Islam” and “no law shall be enacted which is repugnant to such injunctions.”
Implementation of this is all that Taliban and al-Qaeda are demanding. They are on the right side of the law.
To me the Pakistani Muslim is the same as an Indian Muslim. He understands my words of abuse as I do his. Our wives both cook with garam masala. He’s my brother and we share a culture. A political line drawn a few decades ago doesn’t change that.
My problem, looking at Pakistan dispassionately, is that it is not self-correcting. The question is why. Let’s look at an unusual place to find its answer next week.
Aakar Patel is a writer and a columnist.
partha wrote:Aakar Patel in livemint. I bet you that this RAW agent's days with express tribune are numbered
By Aditi Phadnis
Operation X: Closure for some, fleeting satisfaction for others
WTF? This looks like a propaganda. Full of lies. Who is this Aditi Phadnis? This is an attempt to some how link Kasab to Indian Muslims. That his hanging was done by Hindus and it needed Muslim approval. Riots it seems. So keeping the operation secret == prevention of Muslims taking law into their hands. Now that Kasab has been hanged without any riots, Muslims must have thought "Oh wait.. this operation was conducted secretly and the news got out only a few hours after hanging so let us be good citizens and not take law into our hands". Lahori logic. No wonder it is published in a Paki news paper.Kasab’s execution seemed like a political decision — several ministers on Thursday were at pains to point out that the event had been endorsed even by Muslims in India. All the crucial elements of the establishment – including the president, home ministry, prime minister’s office, the Congress Core Group and the Congress president’s office – were involved.
The whole affair, called the Operation X, was overwhelmingly clandestine. The government’s biggest fear was that if the news of a Pakistani terrorists’ execution was leaked, a community could have become impassioned to take the law into its own hands, inviting retaliation from other communities and in no time, rioting could have started. For the state, it seemed imperative to prevent all this at any cost.
Pakistan Taliban demand India return Ajmal Kasab’s body
The Taliban are threatening revenge unless India returns the body of a Pakistani man executed for his role in the 2008 Mumbai attacks that killed 166 people.
The Pakistani Taliban spokesman, Ahsanullah Ahsan, told The Associated Press on Thursday that the body of Mohammed Ajmal Kasab must be given back to his family or handed over to the Taliban.
Probably a part of some oneupmanship game being played out between LeT and TTPInternational news agencies Reuters and Associated Press reported that TTP spokesman Ahsanullah Ahsan spoke to them over telephone from an undisclosed location and also demanded Kasab’s body. “If they don’t return his body to us or his family, we will capture Indians and will not return their bodies,” Reuters quoted him.
If the guns are taken away they will kill each other with iron rods and stones.Gagan wrote: Pakistani netas are "debating" making Pakistan a gunless land, no doubt after some wise guy read Shiv-ji's dissertations on BRF. These sons-of-arabia have decided to crack the hardest nut of all first. These guys want to make Karachi free of weapons.
Agree...GOI should also congratulate the bunnies for being honest enough to acknowledge that he is theirs....unlike TSPA that lets its soldiers die like stray dogs in kargil and Mumbai and not even offer them a burial...or acknowledge their "sacrifice"Lilo wrote:
Though they are threatening us , I half hope that india concedes and lets the body of Kasab be transferred to Pakiland and buried there a midst showers of rose petals and takbeers from the cheering jihadis . That spectacle should clear up a lot of misconceptions in India and elsewhere.
This is just a trick to disarm the shias, ahmedia and other targets of pogrom...Sunni groups dthat are subsidiaries of TSPA obviously know where to get arms...bit like our leftist traitors asking for "nuclear free south Asia" exempting their pay master's in Beijing...and therefore their munnas too...leaving only India nuke nanga....If the guns are taken away they will kill each other with iron rods and stones.
This Brahmastra called kasab has been used to take out modi...the other astra is for GE..sanjaykumar wrote:
Mr Imran Khan will be responsible for the death of one Mr Fazul Guru.
I agree.RamaY wrote:Shias are pu$$is.
ahh, did not think from that angle, thank you for a personal light bulb momentSuppiah wrote:
This is just a trick to disarm the shias, ahmedia and other targets of pogrom...Sunni groups dthat are subsidiaries of TSPA obviously know where to get arms...bit like our leftist traitors asking for "nuclear free south Asia" exempting their pay master's in Beijing...and therefore their munnas too...leaving only India nuke nanga....
If Pakis are doing thisArmenT wrote:Pakistan to cut phone services to prevent Muharram attacks
I wonder how they'll call ambulances, fire department or police when an emergency situation happens.
While they're at it, they should also consider banning clocks, watches, vehicles etc.
