Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

[Raja Bose]

Woah! India executes baby faced South Asian teen Ajmal Kasab, who came to India to settle some personal disputes onlee

[Anujan]

Long term resident of India and Bollywood hopeful denied mercy by Hindu bengali president.

[Raja Bose]

Bengal betrays Pakistan once again: 1st in 1971 and now in 2012!

In an international conspiracy to keep the Pakistani film industry from taking its rightful place in the world (#1), state sponsored Hindu actors from India kidnapped and held for ransom, budding Bollywood actor and handsome South Asian teenager Ajmal Kasab when he went to Mumbai to audition for Bigg Boss and also settle some personal disputes. After Pakistan refused to negotiate with Hindu extremists, Kasab was brutally murdered despite wearing a saffron band and his body was not returned to his grieving parents despite a FedEx plane standing by. Pakistan will stand firm against all such state sponsored terrorist acts and demands a full impartial UN enquiry into this heinous crime.

[Mahendra]

Even Grenades have personal disputes in Bakistan..Subhaan Allah

[member_23677]

Pakistan to cut phone services to prevent Muharram attacks
I wonder how they'll call ambulances, fire department or police when an emergency situation happens.

While they're at it, they should also consider banning clocks, watches, vehicles etc.

inshallah !!! we are getting closer and closer to 7th century onlee

[kish]

Pakistan: Bomb strikes Shia procession

A roadside bomb has killed at least seven people near a Shia Muslim procession in north-western Pakistan.

The attack took place in the city of Dera Ismail Khan, a stronghold of Sunni Muslim militant groups.

This years moha'RUM games celebration is picking up pace in islamic republic of pakistan (a safe haven created for the muslims of India)

More attacks are feared in the coming days as Shia Muslims mark the climax of the holy month of Muharram.

I wish they have a explosive 'climax' filled with surprises.

One report said that four children were among those killed by the device on Saturday, set off by a television remote control device due to the mobile phone block.

Proof of scientific advancement in pakistan. Does any one want to dispute this?

[pgbhat]

you got to hand it to Ghazis....block cell phones.. no problems just use tv remote. Improvised Explosive Device onlee

[Lilo]

The Shia in pakiland are getting an incessant battering - i think they already have a serious lack of arms and ammo to defend themselves (which cannot be verified but which is the general sense one gets from observing long years of one sided Shia blood letting) . So if they are forced to surrender what ever arms they possess buy trickery - then the real pogrom will begin to play out.

Even the Shia pashtun Turi tribe (guns are practically second nature in pashtun area's) were unable to withstand the siege and are escaping pakiland in boatloads to Australia and other places.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2008-08-17/a ... hes/479824 - this was probably a watershed event
http://dawn.com/2012/06/26/boat-acciden ... -kurram-2/
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-09-10/a ... ts/4251636 - latest Turi boat sinking incident.

If this is the fate of Pashtun Shia, the less said about the Shia Hazara the better.

[pgbhat]

^ from yawn.
http://dawn.com/i-am-hazara/

[kish]

[url=xhtttp://www.thenews.%20com.pk/Todays-News-13-19056-Would-be-suicide-bomber-killed-in-Lakki]Would-be suicide bomber killed in Lakki[/url]

The sources said the police tried to stop a suspected youth who was trying to breach the security line to reach the Imambargah in Mohallah Saidaan. “The suicide vest of the would-be bomber exploded after the police opened fire on him,” the sources added.

Moha'RUM games celebration was prematurely disrupted by pawki police.

[abhijitm]

https://twitter.com/SenRehmanMalik/stat ... 8564317184

Talibs too have personal dispute with Pakis

[Mahendra]

Of course, any Pawkee killed isn't an act of terrorism, it is one less terrorist to deal with

[Lilo]

https://twitter.com/SenRehmanMalik/stat ... 8564317184

Talibs too have personal dispute with Pakis

You mean a "Personnel" dispute...

RM is not lying in his tweet.

Or it can be both..
Many Pakiban and PigLeTs have their brothers in FC and PakjabiArmy respectively.

[abhijitm]

Malik speaks again
[url=xxxhttp://dawn.com/2012/11/24/muharram-security-suspension-of-cellphones-in-50-cities/]Muharram security: suspension of cellphones in 50 cities[/url]

Anybody caught planting an IED will be dealt with in accordance with the law, but he will be given the right to defend himself.

[Baikul]

[url=xhtttp://www.thenews.%20com.pk/Todays-News-13-19056-Would-be-suicide-bomber-killed-in-Lakki]Would-be suicide bomber killed in Lakki[/url]

The sources said the police tried to stop a suspected youth who was trying to breach the security line to reach the Imambargah in Mohallah Saidaan. “The suicide vest of the would-be bomber exploded after the police opened fire on him,” the sources added.

Moha'RUM games celebration was prematurely disrupted by pawki police.

Question: How do you distinguish a "would be suicide bomber"... "trying to breach the security line" from a brave, misunderstood lad trying to jump the recruitment line for the Pakistani Army?

[Mahendra]

The sources said the police tried to stop a suspected youth who was trying to breach the security line to reach the Imambargah in Mohallah Saidaan. “The suicide vest of the would-be bomber exploded after the police opened fire on him,” the sources adde

[RCase]

Question: How do you distinguish a "would be suicide bomber"... "trying to breach the security line" from a brave, misunderstood lad trying to jump the recruitment line for the Pakistani Army?

Bluster vs. buster.
Explosive speed vs. downhill skiing speed.

[Gagan]

The Martial Pakistan Polis, similarly killed in cold blood some chechens at a check post a year or so ago.
On that occasion there were a few women, including a pregnant woman, who died waving her hand with a finger in the air pointing to god almighty above as she was shot to death.
The mighty paki police claimed similarly... (suicide bombers, killed in a brave encounter) except that there were video recordings of the shameful event.

[ArmenT]

google.com.pk hacked. "Pakistan Downed" it says!!

http://google.com.pk/

Not just google.pk, but also google.com.pk, yahoo.pk, apple.pk, msn.org.pk, microsoft.pk, blogspot.pk, cicso.pk, ebay.pk, windows7.com.pk, windows8.com.pk and about another 300 domains.

Looks like a top level domain registrar for .pk was compromised.
http://techcrunch.com/2012/11/24/hackin ... ow-it-can/

[abhishek_sharma]

Ardeshir Cowasjee dies

[Shaashtanga]

RGV's "The Attacks Of 26/11" - The First 7 Minutes!
I hope that the movie does justice to the events as they happened and keeps the memory alive in minds of all the Indians.
Never forget.

[Kakkaji]

from the 'Such Gup' section of this week's TFT:

Proxy wars

Our mole in a recent cabinet meeting says that there was a heated exchange between some ministers and RM 007. The ministers said to their colleague that they had heard disturbing rumours about foreign powers behind the violence in Karachi and Quetta, amongst other places in Pakistan. "Why don't you tell us what everyone is talking about?" they said. "Why don't you confirm that Saudi Arabia and Iran are fighting proxy wars on Pakistan's soil?" Apparently, RM 007, though nonplussed, insisted that he had no concrete evidence to suggest that that was so.

Or else

As we know, there's a lot of resistance in Sindh to the new local bodies law that separates the province's urban areas from its rural ones, and accepts the Quaid-e-Qiwam's party's right to governance of the cities. Before the law was voted upon, we hear there was a meeting in Karachi's Bill House, presided over by Mr T, foster bro of you-know-who. Mr T read out the riot act to the many Pipliyans who were reluctant to say yes to the law. "Sign it, or resign" were his instructions, we hear.

[kenop]

RGV's "The Attacks Of 26/11" - The First 7 Minutes!
I hope that the movie does justice to the events as they happened and keeps the memory alive in minds of all the Indians.
Never forget.

The preview clip shows Kuber boarding. Wonder if the ziba'h will be method of execution of the crew.
I had thought the guy gave up the idea of making this film after his excursion raised heckles.

[RamaY]

Muslims do not kill Muslims.

Prophet said "even killing one human being is same as killing the whole humanity"

[SSridhar]

In Gilgit-Baltistan, a Sunni shield for Shia - The Hindu

[harbans]

Muslims do not kill Muslims.

Prophet said "even killing one human being is same as killing the whole humanity"

RamaY Ji, this line is a propaganda line put forward by Jihadi empathisers. It's not the full quote. This was quoted wrt to the Talmud saying it was ordained for the Jews that Killing one Human is the same as Killing the whole Humanity.

I had to write this as obviously you are naively putting forward Islamist propaganda of selective misquoting.

[Kashi]

RamaY Ji, this line is a propaganda line put forward by Jihadi empathisers. It's not the full quote. This was quoted wrt to the Talmud saying it was ordained for the Jews that Killing one Human is the same as Killing the whole Humanity.

I had to write this as obviously you are naively putting forward Islamist propaganda of selective misquoting.

I believe RamaYullah was being impeccably sarcastic.

[hulaku]

Mysterious blast in Karachi

KARACHI, Nov 24: Mystery shrouded a massive blast that took place in a flat in the Defence area on Saturday evening that left at least one man injured.

Police ruled out the possibility of terrorist activity and attributed the explosion to ‘a non-explosive chemical process’.

http://dawn.com/2012/11/25/mysterious-blast-in-karachi/

Da Faq is that ?

[Rangudu]

^^ Bulbuddin Ghusadiya-yar

[arun]

Pakistan to cut phone services to prevent Muharram attacks

I wonder how they'll call ambulances, fire department or police when an emergency situation happens.

While they're at it, they should also consider banning clocks, watches, vehicles etc.

The Islamic Republic of Pakistan, a country self-claimed to have been formed as a safe-haven for the followers of Mohammaddenism in the Indian Sub-Continent, is certainly resorting to desperate measures in order to keep its Mohammadden citizens from cutting each other’s throats for obscure Mohammadden religion inspired reasons. Besides the ban on cell phone services, some items of clothing have also now been banned:

Muharram security: Long shawls, coats banned in Haripur

[partha]

http://tribune.com.pk/story/470738/the- ... lim-hater/

Man, I am getting sick and tired of so many articles about Bal Thackeray in Paki press. This should be the 5th or 6th in tribune alone. Even Indian press has moved on to other things. "Death of a Muslim hater" it seems. Seriously, this is a country whose constitution is essentially a hate book against minorities and even certain sects of Islam!! RAPEs are the most hypocritical people I have ever seen.

[arun]

X Posted from the Oppression of Minorities in Pakistan thread.

Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden sectarian violence sees a second bomb attack in as many days targeting the Shia’s / Shiite’s in Dera Ismail Khan by those belonging to the majority Mohammadden Sunni sect.

The Islamic Republic of Pakistan, a country self-claimed to have been created as a safe haven for the followers of Mohammaddenism residing in the Indian Sub-Continent, is certainly proving to be no such thing.:

At Least Five Dead In New Attack Targeting Shi'ites

[chetak]

http://tribune.com.pk/story/470738/the- ... lim-hater/

Man, I am getting sick and tired of so many articles about Bal Thackeray in Paki press. This should be the 5th or 6th in tribune alone. Even Indian press has moved on to other things. "Death of a Muslim hater" it seems. Seriously, this is a country whose constitution is essentially a hate book against minorities and even certain sects of Islam!! RAPEs are the most hypocritical people I have ever seen.

I think that every sickular and the pakis for sure, were taken aback by the massive (but completely un organised) support for Thackeray.

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[Gus]

Long term resident of India and Bollywood hopeful denied mercy by Hindu bengali president.

They only did this because kasab was a muslim

[Anindya]

Lahore: 10 Pakistanis die after drinking cough syrup

[shiv]

Lahore: 10 Pakistanis die after drinking cough syrup

Victory to Chinese medicine. Availabre at cheap plices in Pakistan.

[Johann]

Turnng memory into Asset - Ayesha Siddiqa, The Hindu

Recently, while travelling around Punjab, especially Okara and its adjoining districts, I realised the influence of the LeT/Jamaat-ud-Dawaa (JuD) network in central Punjab. There are clear signs of the outfit’s presence, visible through massive wall-chalkings and display of banners signed ‘Jamaat-ud-Dawaa’ that exhort people to jihad. The banners even give cell numbers for jihad volunteers to call and offer their services. In any case, Okara is not only Kasab’s but also Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi’s home district. Lakhvi is a LeT commander who was arrested by Pakistan soon after the Mumbai attacks.

Talking to the people of the area one gets a sense that this militant network has consolidated itself much more in north and central Punjab than in south Punjab. The latter subregion is considered more notorious for jihad but there are other outfits there that have greater sway than LeT. This is mainly due to the relative popularity of Deoband ideology in south Punjab compared to the LeT’s Ahl-Hadith ideology.

With its headquarters in Muridke, which is near Lahore and about 200 kilometres from Okara, the LeT/JuD network seems to have consolidated itself in the urban and semi-urban centres of north and central Punjab where there is a growing and almost natural audience for the more sophisticated — or glib — Ahl-Hadith ideology and narrative than the comparatively less suave Deobandi {this then is the battleground for the Talibanwho want to extend their reach. Once that happens, the transformation of Pakistan would be complete. Not that, Ahl-e-Hadees are amy less dangerous. But, the Taliban are not under PA control and are answerable to none} or the pre-modern Barelvi and Sufi religious discourses. People living in the semi-educated environments of these small towns seem to be attracted to the textual evidence of god that Ahl-Hadith religious scholars like Hafiz Saeed provide. As a result, these preachers have not only acquired religious power but also social and political power.

Neat divisions

The LeT and its subsidiary JuD have neatly divided their operations in the area: the fund-raising is done under the JuD banner, and may refer to jihad but tends to focus more on establishing welfare operations in other parts of the country, now especially in Baluchistan; the LeT, on the other hand, pushes into the villages looking for volunteers.

Some of the JuD’s madrassa operations in the rural areas are also used to show off to urban supporters of the group, who are then spurred to contribute more in terms of money or other resources.

In recent months Hafiz Saeed has visited Okara and adjoining districts on several occasions for fund raising and successfully managed to collect millions of rupees.

The jihad in Kashmir and now against America are two slogans which make for successful fund-collection campaign.

Some observations;
- A Pakistani journalist once pointed out to me that those who made the jump from well off to super wealthy through political connections and every kind of fraud and tax evasion possible will still take their zakat tax seriously. That's how they convince themselves that they are in fact good people. That goes down the line as well, but its an indication of how jihadi and Islamist groups have enduring local sources of patronage that literally bypass the state. However by the same token, these people will stop paying if their charity cases hurt their businesses and families.

- The 'Bad Taliban' in Southern Punjab has its roots in the SSP (now known as ASWJ), which in turn traces back to the Ahrar movement. These have been the parties of the urban and small town, lower middle class that has always had a serious problem with the country's landed elite, and which has increasingly picked Islamist politics (like the Pashtuns) over ethnic politics (unlike the Sindhis and Balochis) to express its unhappiness. Southern Punjab is far more feudal and far less developed than northern and central Punjab.

- The destructive zero sum nature of political competition at the top is probably the biggest reason for the SSP/ASWJ's growth in the south. The Sharif brothers control Punjab, and have an alliance with ASWJ, since both have a problem with the PA, and both have a problem with the PPP. But the ASWJ comes with its set of networks to the Punjabi Taliban. If the SSP succeeds in getting back into electoral competition, it will only enhance the protection available to the Punjabi Taliban, just as the MMA government allowed the Pakistani Taliban to grown in NWFP and FATA.

[Pratyush]

Muharram security: Long shawls, coats banned in Haripur

What about Burkhas?? Have they been banned as well?

[Bhima]

Aakar Patel in livemint. I bet you that this RAW agent's days with express tribune are numbered

http://www.livemint.com/Leisure/h34SBYV ... a-god.html

From the above:

There’s a bomb ticking in Pakistan’s constitution. It is Article 227 (1): “All existing laws shall be brought in conformity with the injunctions of Islam” and “no law shall be enacted which is repugnant to such injunctions.” Implementation of this is all that Taliban and al-Qaeda are demanding. They are on the right side of the law.

This is the real problem for Pakistani's isn't it? They are confused about who they are and what they should be. An Islamic state or secular democracy? Why does Pakistan even exist? What is its purpose and how is that reflected in its makeup? As it stands the so called extremists are in fact the rightful representatives of Pakistan as it has been engineered to be. A pathetic and quite depressing situation for any well wishers of South Asia I must say. I really see no solution to the quagmire that is Pakistan.

[Johann]

Bhima,

The real battle is about who decides what is and isn't Islamic. The Deobandi clergy in Pakistan want that power conferred upon them. That is what they were promised by Jinnah back in 1938. The Muslim League and then the Army never intended to deliver on their promise, so the mullahs are ready to collect by force after 75 years of waiting. Even Zia made sure the mullahs could never challenge the generals. They don't really have a chance until Pakjabis fall out of love with the Army.