India Nuclear News and Discussion 4 July 2011

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 27 Nov 2012 09:24

sanjaykumar wrote:Hai Allah. India needing nuke tech from Korea.

Many years back, I was in a flight with a Korean as my next seat passenger. We got talking and he said he was in India to assist in setting up a power plant. He also wondered why India should have invited a Korean company to set up this plant as India had vastly more experience in that business.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 27 Nov 2012 09:34

http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf12 ... lants.html
Heavy Manufacturing of Power Plants

For very large generation 3+ reactors, production of the pressure vessel requires, or is best undertaken by, forging presses of about 140-150 MN (14-15,000 tonnes) capacity which accept hot steel ingots of 500-600 tonnes. These are not common, and individual large presses do not have high throughput – about four pressure vessels per year appears to be common at present, fitted in with other work, though the potential is greater than this. Westinghouse was constrained as of 2009 in that the AP1000 pressure vessel closure head and three complex steam generator parts can only be made by JSW. Areva has a little more choice. Reactor vendors prefer large forgings to be integral, as single products, but it is possible to use split forgings which are welded together. These welds then need checking through the life of the plant. Also, whereas Generation II reactors might require some 2000 tonnes of forgings, EPR and AP1000 units require about twice the amount.Westinghouse says that the minimum requirement for making the largest AP1000 components is a 15,000 tonne press taking 350 tonne ingots.The very heavy forging capacity in operation today is in Japan (Japan Steel Works), China (China First Heavy Industries and China Erzhong) and Russia (OMZ Izhora).New capacity is being built by JSW and JCFC in Japan, Shanghai Electric Group (SEC) and subsidiaries in China, and in South Korea (Doosan), France (Le Creusot), Czech Rep (Pilsen) and Russia (OMZ Izhora and ZiO-Podolsk). New capacity is planned in UK (Sheffield Forgemasters) and India (Larsen & Toubro, Bharat Heavy Electricals, Bharat Forge Ltd). In China the Harbin Boiler Co. and SEC subsidiary SENPE are increasing capacity.

Early in 2009, L&T signed four agreements with foreign nuclear power reactor vendors. The first, with Westinghouse, sets up L&T to produce component modules for the Westinghouse AP1000 reactor. It said that this would enable the two companies "to utilize indigenous capabilities for the turnkey construction of nuclear power plants including supply of reactor equipment and systems, valves, electrical & instrumentation products and fabrication of structural, piping and equipment modules for Westinghouse AP1000 plants." The second agreement was with Atomic Energy of Canada Ltd (AECL) "to develop a competitive cost/scope model for the ACR-1000." In April L&T signed an agreement with Atomstroyexport primarily focused on components for the next four VVER reactors at Kudankulam, but extending beyond that to other Russian VVER plants in India and internationally. Then in May it signed an agreement with GE Hitachi to produce major components for ABWRs - the two companies hope to utilize indigenous Indian capabilities for the complete construction of nuclear power plants including the supply of reactor equipment and systems, valves, electrical and instrumentation products for ABWR plants to be built in India.
http://www.larsentoubro.com

Following the 2008 removal of trade restrictions, Indian companies led by Reliance Power (RPower), NPCIL and Bharat Heavy Electricals (BHEL) plan to invest over US$ 50 billion in the next five years to expand their manufacturing base in the nuclear energy sector.

State-owned Bharat Heavy Electricals (BHEL) (BHEL) claims to be the largest engineering and manufacturing enterprise in India in the energy-related infrastructure sector, and has provided some 80% of the heavy equipment for India's indigenous nuclear power program. It is supplying the steam generators for the first 700 MWe series of reactors, at Kakrapar, based on its design for the 540 MWe units. It is in the process of doubling its production capacity over four years from 10,000 MWe of plant per year (Dec '07), and planned to spend $7.5 billion in two years building plants to supply components for reactor units of 1,600 MWe. It also planned to set up a 50-50 venture with NPCIL that will supply components for nuclear plants of 700 MWe, 1,000 MWe and 1,600 MWe. It is planning to install a 10,000 tonne forging press. It is also setting up an office in Shanghai in 2009 to source castings and forgings.
BHEL has set up a joint venture with NPCIL to supply turbines for nuclear plants of 700 MWe, 1,000 MWe and 1,600 MWe and to seek overseas partners to provide technology for this enterprise. In July it announced that it was close to finalising a European partner to take 30-35% of this joint venture.
BHEL in 2008 set up a joint venture with Heavy Engineering Corp (HEC) for making castings and forgings for nuclear power plants, based on upgrading HEC's plant. BHEL was planning to set up a greenfield manufacturing base in India for nuclear forgings and was in talks with UK-based Sheffield Forgemasters International Ltd and Japan's Kobe Steel for possible joint ventures in nuclear forgings. Then in March 2009 BHEL said it was likely to join the Areva-Bharat Forge joint venture to produce nuclear castings and forgings, instead of going it alone, this intention being confirmed in July. Shortly after, it announced a ten-year technology transfer agreement with Sheffield Forgemasters for large power plant components. Another joint venture is with NPCIL and a foreign partner to make steam generators for 1000 - 1600 MWe plants.Bharat Forge Ltd (BFL) is a multinational company which claims to be among the largest and technologically most advanced manufacturers of forged and machined components, mostly for the automotive industry. It is said to be the world's second-largest forging company and is extending its activities into the power sector. In 2008 it formed a joint venture with Alstom primarily for manufacturing state-of-the-art supercritical power plant equipment in India, though the enterprise may extend to nuclear applications. In January 2009 it signed a memorandum of understanding with Areva to set up a joint venture in casting and forging nuclear components for both export and the domestic market, by 2012.
BFL has commissioned a 400 tonne forging press at Pune, and a 15,000 tonne press is due to be commissioned by 2012. BFL is part of the Kalyani Group - a US$ 2.4 billion conglomerate.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 28 Nov 2012 03:47

Records back 'foreign hand’ behind Tamil Nadu NGOs

After asserting that anti-Kudankulam nuclear protests were being fuelled by the 'foreign hand' and putting several NGOs under scanner, the government released a data in Parliament that shows Tamil Nadu NGOs have received the maximum number of foreign contributions in the past three years.

The data shows TN received 10,119 contributions from across the world with total donations adding up to over Rs 4,800 crore between 2008 and 2011. Over 30,000 contributions were received by all across the country during this period with TN cornering more than 30% of contributions in numbers.

The government reply also said, "There were reports that certain NGOs were engaged in anti-national and political activities."

The house was also informed that Coimbatore-based NGO Tamil Nadu Muslim Muneetra Kazagham (TNMMK) was being investigated by CBI. TNMMK had lent support to the anti-Kudankulam protests and some of its members were also arrested during a September protest. Some other NGOs under investigation by the Tamil Nadu Police include AID India (Chennai), Saccer (Nagercoil) and Centre for Promotion of Social Concern.

some were saying all were local onlee.

Indeed local people with foreign hand and anti national activities.

Vipul · Post by **Vipul** » 28 Nov 2012 06:18

Fuel of future.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 28 Nov 2012 07:05

^along with that, read this as well
http://flonnet.com/stories/20121214292409400.htm

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 28 Nov 2012 13:15

krisna wrote:Records back 'foreign hand’ behind Tamil Nadu NGOs
After asserting that anti-Kudankulam nuclear protests were being fuelled by the 'foreign hand' and putting several NGOs under scanner, the government released a data in Parliament that shows Tamil Nadu NGOs have received the maximum number of foreign contributions in the past three years.

The data shows TN received 10,119 contributions from across the world with total donations adding up to over Rs 4,800 crore between 2008 and 2011. Over 30,000 contributions were received by all across the country during this period with TN cornering more than 30% of contributions in numbers.

The government reply also said, "There were reports that certain NGOs were engaged in anti-national and political activities."

The house was also informed that Coimbatore-based NGO Tamil Nadu Muslim Muneetra Kazagham (TNMMK) was being investigated by CBI. TNMMK had lent support to the anti-Kudankulam protests and some of its members were also arrested during a September protest. Some other NGOs under investigation by the Tamil Nadu Police include AID India (Chennai), Saccer (Nagercoil) and Centre for Promotion of Social Concern.
some were saying all were local onlee.

Indeed local people with foreign hand and anti national activities.

You don't say...

kish · Post by **kish** » 28 Nov 2012 16:46

krisna wrote:Records back 'foreign hand’ behind Tamil Nadu NGOs
After asserting that anti-Kudankulam nuclear protests were being fuelled by the 'foreign hand' and putting several NGOs under scanner, the government released a data in Parliament that shows Tamil Nadu NGOs have received the maximum number of foreign contributions in the past three years.

The data shows TN received 10,119 contributions from across the world with total donations adding up to over Rs 4,800 crore between 2008 and 2011. Over 30,000 contributions were received by all across the country during this period with TN cornering more than 30% of contributions in numbers.

The government reply also said, "There were reports that certain NGOs were engaged in anti-national and political activities."

The house was also informed that Coimbatore-based NGO Tamil Nadu Muslim Muneetra Kazagham (TNMMK) was being investigated by CBI. TNMMK had lent support to the anti-Kudankulam protests and some of its members were also arrested during a September protest. Some other NGOs under investigation by the Tamil Nadu Police include AID India (Chennai), Saccer (Nagercoil) and Centre for Promotion of Social Concern.
some were saying all were local onlee.

Indeed local people with foreign hand and anti national activities.

It isn't surprising, even genuine protests wither away over time. But PMANE is able to sustain the protests for several months.

Certain minority is always there for Anti-India activities. A Coimbatore based NGO lending support to Kudankulam protests. While Coimbatore & Tirupur based spinning mills are unable to operate because of inadequate power. Thousands of laborer and Industry in general suffer.

kish · Post by **kish** » 02 Dec 2012 10:47

‘We are a headache for the establishment’

He is the face of the anti-nuclear protests in Kudankulam. S.P. Udayakumar tells Meera Srinivasan that the movement has its limitations when confronting government

Attired in a sky-blue shirt with sleeves folded to three-quarters length and a black and blue checked lungi, he meets us at the home of Jesuraj, priest attached to the church in Kuthanguli — the fishing hamlet adjoining Idinthakarai.

There is a arrest warrant pending against him and a priest is protecting him. Are these not 'communal elements'? Oh those words are reserved for 'Hindus' alone.

His trimmed beard shows clear signs of greying, his metal-frame glasses and poise — these make for a charming cross between an academician and an activist. “I feel vulnerable outside these two (Idinthakarai and Kuthanguli) villages,” he says.

“Until now, we protested in a peaceful manner upholding our principle of non-violence. But if governments do not respect that, the message going out to youngsters is that henceforth, only Maoism will work in India.”

Mao not only would have commissioned more plants by forcibly displacing people, also would have crushed those who oppose him underneath tanks.

If ever there is a international survey to know the 'freedom to operate for anti-national elements', India would top the list.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 02 Dec 2012 12:21

Hard to believe a few BRFites still support this church/naxalite movement against nuclear power.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 02 Dec 2012 18:01

People quoting Mao out of nowhere to stop progress only means that it is an excuse to hide something which should not come out in open.

Kind of statements like Maoism can work alone are general statements by individuals that ignore enormous processes, personnel and resources of the nation that are spent on projects for all round progress.

It is a concern not just for Indians but for all who want to leverage technical advances for benefit of people.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 02 Dec 2012 19:58

At Kudankulam’s core is fear, ignorance and anger

Asked why, the 35-year-old mother of four replied: “We saw a video at the church showing children with deformities caused by accidents at nuclear reactors. Ask anyone here, they will tell you that we don’t want the plant.”

To prove her point, Pramasakthi flagged down a young girl. “Tell her, do you need the plant,” she commanded the girl. “No, we don’t need the plant. It will cause diseases,” the girl replied flatly. What diseases? “Dengue,” the girl, a student of class IX, replied. “Our teacher told us.”

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 02 Dec 2012 21:54

Actually, the electricity generated through nuclear power may cause disease. These parishioners should boycott all such utilities.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 03 Dec 2012 00:12

Regardless of fear mongering, Russian Prez. Putin should be welcomed well.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 03 Dec 2012 08:13

Asked why, the 35-year-old mother of four replied: “We saw a video at the church showing children with deformities caused by accidents at nuclear reactors. Ask anyone here, they will tell you that we don’t want the plant.”

To prove her point, Pramasakthi flagged down a young girl. “Tell her, do you need the plant,” she commanded the girl. “No, we don’t need the plant. It will cause diseases,” the girl replied flatly. What diseases? “Dengue,” the girl, a student of class IX, replied. “Our teacher told us.”

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 06 Dec 2012 10:11

Hybrid desalination plant in Kalpakkam

“The Nuclear Desalination Demonstration Plant (NDDP) located at Kalpakkam [off Chennai], Tamil Nadu, is the world’s largest hybrid seawater desalination plant coupled to an existing nuclear power plant,” says Dr. P.K Tewari, Head, Desalination Division, BARC, Mumbai.

prashanth · Post by **prashanth** » 10 Dec 2012 17:19

India inks pact with Ukraine on nuclear safety - The Hindu

Significantly, some of the experts working in Kudankulam nuclear plant are of Ukrainian origin.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 10 Dec 2012 17:26

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RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 10 Dec 2012 19:35

^ Read carefully friends.

The Church behaves the same as Masjid once the population numbers reach the critical mass.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 10 Dec 2012 22:57

There is no basis for protests anymore.

It appears that schemes by collector is not ok but the state is ok. Such kind of arbitrary contradictions should not be encouraged, or tolerated, just to keep the poit boiling.

Hopefully some Hindu organizations can step in to resolve the contradictions and clarify lack of basis for flogging a dead horse.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 11 Dec 2012 07:26

If they don't want these schemes, then so be it.

sum · Post by **sum** » 11 Dec 2012 08:07

Another bid to lay siege to Kudankulam plant foiled

Amid hectic pre-commissioning system checks at the first 1000 MW unit of the Kudankulam Nuclear Power Project (KNPP) in Tamil Nadu, anti-KNPP protestors made another attempt to lay siege the plant by the sea route on Monday, reiterating their demand for closure of the Russia-aided project.

The People’s Movement Against Nuclear Energy (PMANE) activists and their supporters, mainly the fishing community, arrived in 150 boats raising slogans and rowing up to 500 meters of the plant complex.

But with a massive security build-up in the vicinity and nearby villages, the protests passed off without any untoward incidents, the police said. “Let there be a nation-wide debate on nuclear powerprojects and let this be a national issue for the next Lok Sabha polls,” said S P Udayakumar, convenor of ‘PMANE’ who is spearheading the protests continuously for over 15 months now. Monday’s protest also coincided with world human rights day.

Fishermen of several villages around the power plant did not venture into the sea on Monday as a mark of solidarity with the protestors.

They urged the development package announced for Kudankulam and nearby villages to be put on hold until a consensus emerged on the larger issue of desirability of nuclear power. The stir also spread to Madurai where 200 people protested against the atomic power project.

When asked about the local church backing the anti-KNPP protestors, Dr Guha said: “In many cases it is true the priests are behind such protests, but it should not be the basis of your larger political agenda. The point is you cannot base your environmental programme on religion. It can be based on local customs (related to the local community’s livelihood),” the author reasoned.

Vipul · Post by **Vipul** » 23 Dec 2012 05:59

India signing CTBT to kick-start N-talks with Japan?

It may not be necessary for India to sign Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (CTBT) for resumption of talks with Japan for peaceful use of nuclear energy but it will certainly help if any such bilateral agreement can weave in New Delhi's commitment to ban on nuclear test. Top diplomatic sources here told TOI that merely a generic voluntary moratorium on carrying out nuclear tests, which India keeps reiterating, will not be of much help.

The talks for civilian nuclear cooperation between the two countries have remained suspended since the Fukushima nuclear meltdown in March, 2011. In a recent interaction with outgoing Japanese PM Yoshihiko Noda in Cambodia, PM Manmohan Singh had raised the issue of nuclear cooperation with Tokyo, but there is still no commitment from Japan exactly when talks will restart.

"Japan is not insisting that India sign CTBT but it is my reading that if India can commit to a test ban in any bilateral agreement for such a cooperation between the two countries, it will certainly make things easier," a top diplomatic source handling Japan's non-proliferation policy told TOI. The official was talking on the sidelines of the Fukushima ministerial conference that discussed measures to enhance nuclear safety worldwide, apart from showcasing Japan's efforts to cope up with the nuclear disaster.

The official added though that Japan was not imposing any pre-conditions for resumption of nuclear dialogue. Indian officials here said though that it was not possible for New Delhi to go any further than what New Delhi had committed to before Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG) in September, 2008, where got India a waiver to carry out nuclear commerce. Then foreign minister Pranab Mukherjee had said in a statement that India remained committed to a voluntary and unilateral moratorium on nuclear test and to negotiate a Fissile Material Cutoff Treaty (FMCT).

India is hoping that the Liberal Democratic Party chief and the incoming PM, Shinzo Abe, will work towards resumption of talks. Abe shunned the policy of doing away completely with nuclear power and yet managed an emphatic win in the recent Lower House elections. After his victory, Abe has suggested that he will reconsider Japan's ban on construction of new nuclear reactors in the country. Abe had earlier described the Noda-led government's call for zero-dependence on nuclear energy as "unrealistic and irresponsible".

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 25 Dec 2012 20:55

Some more news on Russian President's visit Kudankulam and more: Why Putin’s India visit was a hit

(ii) the two sides embarked upon a nuclear civilian energy cooperation road map that may well be worth a whopping $45 billion in the long term. This long-term map may be up to the year 2030.
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embark upon an ambitious roadmap for deepening their cooperation in civilian nuclear energy and construct 16 to 18 nuclear energy plants in India of 1,000MW each. This would translate into an impressive sum of $ 45 billion at today’s prices, factoring in a total of 18 new proposed nuclear plants of 1,000MW each at a price band of $ 2.5 billion. The idea is to have one nuclear plant ready every year for the next 18 years.
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Kudankulam woes are over – despite the local protests. The doubts over Kudankulam 3 and 4 should be effectively over. The Indians have conveyed that it will be business as usual with the Russians in the nuclear energy sector despite whatever obstacles that may have surfaced in context of Kudankulam 1 and 2.
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One needs to know why Putin came all the way to India for just a 15–hour visit (of which his official engagement lasted just about five hours). The most important reason is the Indo-Russian bilateral relations as they are set to play out in the next two decades.

If the nuclear energy roadmap works out as per the script, it would mean that the Russians would be leading partners of the Indian civilian nuclear energy story as they would be contributing over 20 percent of the total Indian power production
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Huge boost in Nuclear energy as part of total power production in next 18 years. Great visit and follow up after earlier visit by officials from Russia.

This will also reduce dependence on oil to the extent it replaces such use.

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 26 Dec 2012 14:22

sum wrote:Another bid to lay siege to Kudankulam plant foiled

When asked about the local church backing the anti-KNPP protestors, Dr Guha said: “In many cases it is true the priests are behind such protests, but it should not be the basis of your larger political agenda. The point is you cannot base your environmental programme on religion. It can be based on local customs (related to the local community’s livelihood),” the author reasoned.

What is he saying here? Whose political agenda? Is this guy writing books when he cannot explain a thought clearly?

Meanwhile, eminent writer and environmental historian, Dr Ramachandra Guha in Chennai strongly disapproved the way in which the Tamil Nadu (TN) government has been handling the protests. Mechanically dubbing the protestors as “foreign agents” was unacceptable, Guha said, interacting on Monday at a national seminar on ‘Exploring Current Issues in Sustainability’ at IIT-Madras.

“When fisher-folks are protesting against nuclear power in Tamil Nadu, sedition cases are slammed against them, this is worrisome,” Guha asserted.

So this is how it panned out. First they denied there were foreign elements and foreign funding. That unraveled pretty quickly. And when sedition charges are slammed, he says this is worrisome. Why? Law of the land not supreme? This is why the "minorities" and the elites disgust me. LAws should not be applied to them and they are beyond judgement because they ARE minorities or special.
Guha the Gube should explain when sedition charges should be applied then? Maybe he can act as a consultant to the lawyers and judges.

The historian also came down on the Centre “as being under tremendous pressure exercised by the most powerful economic and political forces to dismantle all environmental safeguards in the country.

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Really? This schoolboy arguments and this guy gets invited to speak ?
And this explanation passes off as an opinion .

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 26 Dec 2012 18:10

I have a Q - is it possible that the declared "self imposed" moratorium on nuke tests by India is to actually help the Pakis to keep up their clown jewel pretense in-spite of being actually nuke nood and to spare the US-China combo the logistics headache of supplying a new set of nukes if testing becomes inevitable ?

Any past speculations on this line ?

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 26 Dec 2012 20:11

Neela wrote:{quote="sum"}Another bid to lay siege to Kudankulam plant foiled

When asked about the local church backing the anti-KNPP protestors, Dr Guha said: “In many cases it is true the priests are behind such protests, but it should not be the basis of your larger political agenda. The point is you cannot base your environmental programme on religion. It can be based on local customs (related to the local community’s livelihood),” the author reasoned.{/quote}
What is he saying here? Whose political agenda? Is this guy writing books when he cannot explain a thought clearly?

Meanwhile, eminent writer and environmental historian, Dr Ramachandra Guha in Chennai strongly disapproved the way in which the Tamil Nadu (TN) government has been handling the protests. Mechanically dubbing the protestors as “foreign agents” was unacceptable, Guha said, interacting on Monday at a national seminar on ‘Exploring Current Issues in Sustainability’ at IIT-Madras.

“When fisher-folks are protesting against nuclear power in Tamil Nadu, sedition cases are slammed against them, this is worrisome,” Guha asserted.
So this is how it panned out. First they denied there were foreign elements and foreign funding. That unraveled pretty quickly. And when sedition charges are slammed, he says this is worrisome. Why? Law of the land not supreme? This is why the "minorities" and the elites disgust me. LAws should not be applied to them and they are beyond judgement because they ARE minorities or special.
Guha the Gube should explain when sedition charges should be applied then? Maybe he can act as a consultant to the lawyers and judges.

The historian also came down on the Centre “as being under tremendous pressure exercised by the most powerful economic and political forces to dismantle all environmental safeguards in the country.
”

Really? This schoolboy arguments and this guy gets invited to speak ?
And this explanation passes off as an opinion .

how did this faker move from cricket historian to eminent historian to eminent writer and environmental historian??

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 27 Dec 2012 02:50

So Russia will help India save U and Pu for the next 18 years !

We can make good use of this strategic Maal to do Kamal and Halal in the game of Lal Gulal .

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 27 Dec 2012 06:46

Lilo wrote:I have a Q - is it possible that the declared "self imposed" moratorium on nuke tests by India is to actually help the Pakis to keep up their clown jewel pretense in-spite of being actually nuke nood and to spare the US-China combo the logistics headache of supplying a new set of nukes if testing becomes inevitable ?

No. The no-more-testing criteria is a pre-condition laid down by foreign countries for sharing their technology with India. This is the best available option, given that India's nuclear industry is not maturing fast enough to build out the additional capacity required.

kshatriya · Post by **kshatriya** » 31 Dec 2012 03:33

The naxalite/maoist rats are now in Koodankulam

More pics here

kapilrdave · Post by **kapilrdave** » 01 Jan 2013 18:38

Had a talk with an influential man in Delhi. Said a huge sum of money (did not say how much) was given to Praful Patel by a US based org to fund the protest against nuclear plant. But it did not work out as per the org's liking and wanting. They believed Prafool ate most of the money and spent very little. They demanded the money back to which Prafool denied. The org had very good relations with Obama so they complained to him. Meanwhile CIA got behind Prafool and simultaneously took the matter with Sonia. Sonia then finally had to go to US for "medical treatment" to settle this and some other issues including FDI. Take it FWIW.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 01 Jan 2013 18:55

It is indeed strange that selective protests do not affect nuclear plants from Europe. There is much more to this than what appears on surface.

Why are these people not ready to read newspapers by themselves and know the kind of information is available for the safety of the nuclear plant. Why do these people do not protest nuclear power plants from Europe while listening to Europeans/Americans on nuclear power in India. What will make these people understand all this instead of single minded protest route. Why do these people not go to Europe and USA to protest nuclear power, or may be to south Korea etc. What makes these people ignore what is conveyed for safety of the plant by many as a necessary behavior.

sum · Post by **sum** » 01 Jan 2013 22:12

^^ amazing that this noble doctor ( Binayak Sen) manages to land up at every trouble spot but is still a poor innocent doctor who has nothing to do with politics/protests and deserves to have a column of his own in national magazines like "WEEK" and be on the GoI payroll as part of medical committees!!

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 02 Jan 2013 21:43

B/C he is a NACxalite.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 02 Jan 2013 21:52

sum wrote:in national magazines like "WEEK"

Sumji,
WEEK is a mallu christist mouthpiece.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 05 Jan 2013 17:32

Koodankulam Project official Receives Threat Letter
A long time back we discussed here how these people should be handled. No leniency to these thugs.

"The three-tier security arrangement is only for the plant and not for the officials," said the letter

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 05 Jan 2013 21:31

SSridhar wrote:
sanjaykumar wrote:Hai Allah. India needing nuke tech from Korea.
Many years back, I was in a flight with a Korean as my next seat passenger. We got talking and he said he was in India to assist in setting up a power plant. He also wondered why India should have invited a Korean company to set up this plant as India had vastly more experience in that business.

I posted this before.

I was flying in massa and met with an old man who was a nuke engineer. He travelled extensively to India (he even recognized my Telugu book as a language from south India) to sell nuke technology to India.

He told me that India has very very smart people. When they asked to produce nuke electricity at Rs 6/KWH this Yankee told them it is impossible to do below Rs 11 or so. Then they took him to the nuke plants they are running for decades producing electricity at Rs 6.

He told me that India doesn't need any nuke tech from outside. They just have to mass produce what they have and it will automatically lead to next gen technologies.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 05 Jan 2013 21:35

--duplicate--

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 05 Jan 2013 21:36

SSridhar wrote:Koodankulam Project official Receives Threat Letter
A long time back we discussed here how these people should be handled. No leniency to these thugs.
"The three-tier security arrangement is only for the plant and not for the officials," said the letter

Has anything like this happened anywhere in the world for a nuclear energy plant?

Has organizations like PMANE protested against European/American nuclear plants?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 06 Jan 2013 08:04

CERN pitches for associate membership status for India

The Director-General of CERN (European Organisation for Nuclear Research), Rolf-Dieter Heur on Saturday pitched for India becoming an associate member of the organisation.

CERN was instrumental in the discovery of the so-called ‘God particle’ – an elementary particle believed to exist in physics — in July last year.
Right time

“This is the right time for India to be an associate member of CERN,” Heur said here on the sidelines of a session organised by the Indian Science Congress, adding that the matter has also been taken up with Union Minister for Science and Technology S. Jaipal Reddy.

The associate membership of CERN will not only open the doors of mega science experiments for Indian scientists but also help them participate in training and education programmes held at the laboratory, he said.

India, currently, enjoys an observer status and needs to make a payment of nearly 10 million Swiss Francs to CERN for associate membership.
Approvals

A proposal in this regard was sent by Indian scientists to the Centre and is awaiting approval.

According to Bikash Sinha, eminent scientist and Homi Bhabha Professor of the Department of Atomic Energy, the proposal to make India an associate member is awaiting clearance from the Prime Minister’s office (PMO).

“We hope to get the necessary clearances from the PMO soon,” Sinha said.

According to him, associate membership of CERN will allow Indian industry to participate in bids for CERN contracts across various sectors, including in niche areas like developing equipment for crucial experiments.

sum · Post by **sum** » 06 Jan 2013 08:46

Full scale wing clipping on so that more freebies can be doled out for votes:
Budget cut may delay mega science projects

A drastic cut in India’s science budget is likely to delay implementation of several mega projects that would have allowed researchers to join hands with scientists and engineers from abroad to create world-class facilities for exploring frontier areas of science.

These international mega-science projects range from Indian Neutrino Observatory (INO) in Tamil Nadu and Square kilometre Array (SKA) in Australia to Facility for Anti-proton and Ion Research (FAIR) in Germany. India will also be partnering in Thirty Metre Telescope (TMT) and Laser Interferometer Gravity Observatory (LIGO) whereas the ongoing collaboration on high-energy physics at CERN, near Geneva, one of the outcomes of which was the discovery of Higgs Boson, would continue in full flow.

“We have approved 4 to 5 new mega science projects in the 12th plan including SKA, LIGO and TMT,” K Kasturirangan, member (science) in the Planning Commission told Deccan Herald on the sidelines of centenary edition of Indian Science Congress here.
Notwithstanding the commission’s approval, financial constraints remains the biggest bottleneck in realising these projects as science budget was cut by 35 per cent in the current fiscal crippling a large number of ongoing programmes, sources said.