AArrgh..Shiv beat me to it. I was going to suggest the BSF air wing.
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The locomotives that you sold to pakistan were not free. So sure you have exported them but they are all junk. Junk that can not be repaired. Even the Pakis dont want to deal with you again.wong wrote: It's kinda hard to compete with FREE. That's the export market for J-10 class fighters. The US essentially gives away it retired F-16's to Iraq, Philippines, Pakistan and other countries (everybody but India). How many LCA exports?? Yeah, that's right. ZERO.
shiv wrote:
What are the intended roles of J 20 and J 31?
This is what China does... no one else will sell weapons to Sudan... and Libya and other sub-Saharan Africa... so Chinese .. will step in.. hardly can be considered as export success...Selamat Pagi wrote:^^^^
China trains and locomotives are exported all over the world. Including several countries in Europe, the Middle East and Australia.
China is also the 4th largest exporters of arms in the world.
The market for Mig-21 like is already saturated by J-7s. It would be hard for another Mig-21++.wong wrote:How many LCA exports?? Yeah, that's right. ZERO.
Tejas is not going to be exported.. We don't export cheap crap.. to Bangladesh...ashi wrote:The market for Mig-21 like is already saturated by J-7s. It would be hard for another Mig-21++.wong wrote:How many LCA exports?? Yeah, that's right. ZERO.
It just shows what the Chinese sink to once we start talking about them and stay on topic. They have nothing to say to defend their junk and prefer to say things about Indians.Singha wrote:This thread reminds me of the uncleared garbage in bbmp areas.
Nothing positive emanates from the trolls here. Why are they let run around here? Or is this some ant/rat lab experiment run by admins?
wong, by repeating the lies about J-10 being a Chinese design, you are just displaying what the world already knows about the Chinese state and its minions: you are willing to tell any amount of lies, cheat anyone, and steal anything to give the impression of progress. Instead you end up looking like liars, cheats and thiefs.wong wrote:LOL. You probably did write it. Digging further, that passage comes from an Indian site and the dumbest military site, strategypage.com. You guys are really getting desperate.
07:41 GMT, May 11, 2010 8ak (http://www.8ak.in) | On April 13, in the port city of Tianjin about 130- KM away from Beijing, China showed off its 4th Generation J-10 aircraft to military attaches of about 50 countries it could possibly export to. 9 days later as per Strategy page reports it was running to cover up the 2nd crash of the J-10 fighter that became public in the last two years.
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/j-10.htm
The J-10 [the export version being designated F-10] is a multi-role single-engine and single-seat tactical fighter, with its combat radius of 1,000 km. It is designed for point defensive warfare with performance generatlly matching aircraft such as the Mirage 2000 deployed by Taiwan. Apparently, Chinese engineers are trying to develop the J-10 from a single F-16 provided by Pakistan, and with assistance from Israeli engineers associated with Israel’s US-financed Lavi fighter program, which was cancelled in 1987.
The acquisition of Su-27, after China had attempted for years to develop the J-10 aircraft with equivalent technology to perform similar functions, demonstrates a lack of confidence in domestic industrial capabilities.
ashi, glad you are able to quote the former Indian air chief (talking about the LCA as it was ca 2 years ago), who like everyone else in India, is free to say what they think.ashi wrote:The market for Mig-21 like is already saturated by J-7s. It would be hard for another Mig-21++.wong wrote:How many LCA exports?? Yeah, that's right. ZERO.
shiv wrote:I am sure Indians would be glad to accept free J-10s from China. Every armed force in India now wants an air force and I heard that the Jharkhand Coast Lifeguards dept need some aircraft. How about free J-10's from China?Bheeshma wrote:
But thanks for settling the issue J-10 can only be sold free no one will pay for than kind of crap.
Apparently, you are a poor reader.Prithwiraj wrote:This is what China does... no one else will sell weapons to Sudan... and Libya and other sub-Saharan Africa... so Chinese .. will step in.. hardly can be considered as export success...Selamat Pagi wrote:^^^^
China trains and locomotives are exported all over the world. Including several countries in Europe, the Middle East and Australia.
China is also the 4th largest exporters of arms in the world.
have you bothered to read through link provided before terming me as a poor reader? typical BSSelamat Pagi wrote:
Apparently, you are a poor reader.
There is nothing in the above data that says China export to UN embargoed countries. Per the diagram you posted, only Ivory coast, Eritrea and Sudan Government is embargoed. There is no proof that China supplied weapons to Sudan after the embargo was applied. Just because the weapons were Chinese doest not mean China is responsible.
Try again.
China only sells to the countries who can not afford quality western weapons or are not allowed to buy from west...I am not buying your typical BSSelamat Pagi wrote:
Apparently, you are a poor reader.
There is nothing in the above data that says China export to UN embargoed countries. Per the diagram you posted, only Ivory coast, Eritrea and Sudan Government is embargoed. There is no proof that China supplied weapons to Sudan after the embargo was applied. Just because the weapons were Chinese doest not mean China is responsible.
Try again.
Prithwiraj wrote:have you bothered to read through link provided before terming me as a poor reader? typical BSSelamat Pagi wrote:
Apparently, you are a poor reader.
There is nothing in the above data that says China export to UN embargoed countries. Per the diagram you posted, only Ivory coast, Eritrea and Sudan Government is embargoed. There is no proof that China supplied weapons to Sudan after the embargo was applied. Just because the weapons were Chinese doest not mean China is responsible.
Try again.
Pakis and Bangladeshis are more desperate to defend Chinese than Chinese themselves...guess why?Arun Menon wrote:^^Somebody's post about this thread being a garbage dump seems to be quite true. It has attracted yet another disease carrying vermin. Only question is whether this one is from the west of India or from the east.
China’s new fighter aircraft J-15 is not a copy of the Russian Su-33 and is in fact superior to it, a state-run Chinese daily said Thursday.
The state-run daily then cited areas in which it says the Chinese fighter is ahead of the Russian jet.
First, J-15 has an avionics more advanced than Su-33. Su-33 is equipped with old-fashioned ARINC429 discrete avionics system of one-way low-speed data bus, while J-15 adopts joint avionics system of bidirectional data bus.
TS-100, the Su-33′s fire-control computer, has a computing speed of only 170,000 times per second, while the J-15′s fire-control computer has an estimated computing speed of over several million times per second, said the media report.
The J-15 owns a much more advanced radar system than the Su-33. Due to its backward avionics system, the Su-33 can only serve as interceptors, and is incapable of air-to-ground precision strike.
The J-15 adopts improved materials and production techniques, and thus has greater strength and lighter weight. Finally, the J-15 is powered by Taihang (WS-10) turbofan engine, which is more powerful than the Su-33′s engine. “Overall, the J-15 is superior to the Su-33, and is comparable to world-class carrier-based aircraft such as the United States’ F-18 and France’s Rafale,” the daily concluded.
LOL. Indians are the ONLY ones who pay cash.Bheeshma wrote:wong wrote: It's kinda hard to compete with FREE. That's the export market for J-10 class fighters. The US essentially gives away it retired F-16's to Iraq, Philippines, Pakistan and other countries (everybody but India). How many LCA exports?? Yeah, that's right. ZERO.
LOL really US gives them for free. Why did the pakis pay up 65-70 mil for a 30 year old US frigate without any SAM's or offensive missiles. Nothing is ever free but PN still wanted the OHP's despite their age.
JF-17's true name makes it to Google Suggestionsand in Google.com too. In Google.co.in it's on top of the suggestions with even less alphabets. lol
and what difference does it make to the google search suggestions?I think that super duper IT Indians still running 12 year old Windows XP is funnier.
Actually lots. What Google returns is location and (for features) OS specific.adityadange wrote:and what difference does it make to the google search suggestions?I think that super duper IT Indians still running 12 year old Windows XP is funnier.
btw, What are the intended roles of J 20 and J 31?
Balderdash. We are not afraid. I still stand by the opinion that you cannot produce a quality product by thieving designs.wong wrote: 2nd. We can certainly speculate. J-31 is for export, Pakistan. J-20 is to bomb Tokyo/Guam and mop up Delhi once all the long range stealth cruise missiles (Thanks Noshir Gowadia!!) and IRBMs are done.
wong, why dont you show us what results google gives on your pirated operating system.wong wrote:^^^^
I think that super duper IT Indians still running 12 year old Windows XP is funnier.
Rich Saudi Arabia pays cash for American arms for what the Mafia calls protection money. Essentially a no-regime change fee to the Americans. What I can't figure out is why poor India does it too.
So, they are both suicide bombers. Makes sense.wong wrote:adityadange wrote:As for the intended roles of our planes, stop treating it like it's some profound and deep thought question that will drive the Chinese members crazy. I was going to let you guys keep asking it to see how long the joke could go on, but fun is over.
1st. How the F should we know ?? And if we were in a position to know, we certainly wouldn't reveal it on a public internet forum.
2nd. We can certainly speculate. J-31 is for export, Pakistan. J-20 is to bomb Tokyo/Guam and mop up Delhi once all the long range stealth cruise missiles (Thanks Noshir Gowadia!!) and IRBMs are done.
Windows xp and Saudi Arabia in "Chinese military" threadwong wrote:^^^^
I think that super duper IT Indians still running 12 year old Windows XP is funnier.
Rich Saudi Arabia pays cash for American arms for what the Mafia calls protection money. Essentially a no-regime change fee to the Americans. What I can't figure out is why poor India does it too.