Delhi Rape Victim Dies-Express your outrage.

[VikramS]

eklavya wrote:
Arjun, why is this survey dubious? I am posting a link to their methodology and results

Because it is a 'perception survey' at the end of the day...aren't we interested in knowing about facts rather than perceptions?

The statistics appear to be unreliable. And 'perceptions' also have a basis in 'reality'. The anecdotal evidence (as the statistical sort is dubious) aligns better with the perceptions.

eklavya:

I do not know what your life-experiences are but in the US there is a car ad which says "Perceptions are not always reality".

I have spent half my life in India and half in the US, and I have seen how facts and news items can be twisted to suit a particular agenda.

That is why it is so critical to go beyond the headlines and scratch below.

We are at a unique point of time where information is more readily and quickly available than it has ever been before. As a result there is the opportunity for anyone who is interested it get down to the first principle and do true discovery. You wil be surprised at what you will find.

And, the Powers that Be, (TPTB), are trying to control that too. Facebook has started censoring links to sites deemed objectionable. And there is a man in the loop, who decides whether that link needs to be published. They have also start prioritizing what you get to see in the newsfeed. So if their man in the loop says that a particular piece of information is not "approved" the link will not show up.

Like true capitalists, Facebook is now using this feature to allow you to promote the link to your friends ($7 for a single link). It shows up as a sponsored link. But in effect it is like "paid media".

Regarding the issue of women safety: There is an order of magnitude difference between of crimes against women in India and the West. While a part of it is under-reporting, it can not account for 10x difference. There is a basic difference in ethos.

Our opinions are shaped by our life experiences, and it seems yours are very different from mine. I do not know what the root cause is but do ponder about them for a while.

Perceptions are created, managed, and cultivated; and over a long period of time.

Slumdog Millionaire was an example of how a new generation of world audience was introduced to India. But that was just one in a long cycle of similar actions.

Have you wondered why the Newtown killer or the Guy who shot firemen in New York, are never labelled as Christians but invariably anything which goes wrong in India gets tagged with Hindu/RSS etc.?

Think about it for a while.

[Prem]

How Many new generation Desi Bheems have taken the oath to evenge this Dropadi Haran in the Court of Blind King Singh? Bhay Bin Hot Na Priti, till Bhumiputras not take action, these Dharmheen, Sharmheen netas will keep providing Kalyugi Dushtashan/Parshashan. Vote them out orr if they do EVM magic , Thoke them out.

[disha]

Reproducing in full from http://dailypioneer.com/columnists/item ... ithin.html

Please do go to the web site and rate the article.

Mere protest won’t do; we have to look within Rate this item
Author: Kanchan Gupta

The horrific gang rape of a young woman in Delhi has brought protesting crowds into the streets. But where do we go from here? How about looking at flaws within our society?

Hopefully in this age when media is eager to do whatever it takes to grab eyeballs and push up ratings, and believes ethics is bad for business, the name and other personal details of a 23-year-old Indian woman who lost her battle against death at Mount Elizabeth Hospital in Singapore at 2.15 am on Saturday will remain unknown to us. It is also to be hoped that her family and friends will not be chased by crazed crews of news television channels for an ‘exclusive’ sound bite to be broadcast at prime time or shown as ‘breaking news’; it is not inconceivable that distraught parents, siblings and friends will find mikes shoved into their faces and asked, “What does it feel like?” Media thugs of a particular political persuasion believe in neither decency nor dignity, and loathe the very idea of restraint when it is most needed. Every tragedy is turned into a tamasha, directed by cynical journalists and performed by equally cynical rent-a-comment politicians, wannabe analysts and me-too activists. This way does not lie the path to meaningful intervention and debate. It is at best a spoke in the 24-hour-news cycle.

Nor is any purpose served by describing the dead woman as a ‘Brave Heart’, ‘Amanat’, ‘Damini’ or ‘Nation’s Daughter’. Such treacly platitudinous honorifics are coined to make bogus sentiments sound real. Let us stick to the facts and let the horror of what happened 13 days ago remain undiminished. A young woman went to see a movie with her male friend. On the way back home, she and her friend got on to a private bus. Inside the bus, a group of five men set upon the couple like a pack of beasts. The woman’s male friend tried to fight back the attackers but was beaten mercilessly. Meanwhile, mind-numbing cruel deeds were committed on the hapless woman. Bestiality knows no limits: She was gang-raped and an iron rod was shoved into her body. Their lust satiated, the rapists threw her, and her male friend, out of the bus. All this while the driver of the bus drove the vehicle along one of the most crowded roads of south Delhi with the cabin lights switched off. The window panes had dark film, so nobody could see the crime being committed inside the bus.

That bus was not supposed to have been plying on the roads of Delhi at that time. Its cabin lights were not supposed to be switched off. Its window panes were not supposed to have been covered with dark film. These three illegalities went unnoticed by patrolling policemen and police pickets. We are now told the owner and driver of this particular bus are habitual offenders and got away with their violations of various laws by bribing the police. Ironically, the diary in which such bribes, better known as ‘hafta’, were meticulously recorded helped Delhi Police identify the bus and track down the culprits. Contrary to what an astoundingly arrogant Home Secretary and a slyly smirking Police Commissioner claimed at a media briefing that turned out to be a hideous back-slapping session watched in dismay by a stunned nation, there was little sleuthing involved and it definitely did not merit the high praise that was heaped upon Delhi Police. In any of the countries whose standards we aspire for both the Home Secretary and Police Commissioner would have been summarily and dishonourably sacked for their ‘stuff happens’ Tom-and-Jerry show, but not in this wondrous land of ours: Both men have powerful political patrons. (Both the home secretary and the police commissioner should be summarily suspended, and their retirement benefits taken away. But with the current congress dispensation at the center will do nothing about it. Where are the Beestas, ArunDhotis, Boorkhas? Painting themselves up to get rented and dented?)

Yes, it’s heartening to see thousands of young men and women pour into the streets to register their protest. It’s appalling to see a corrupt police force using batons and tear gas to ruthlessly suppress a spontaneous protest against a morally decrepit and politically bankrupt regime. But it’s also heart-rending for my generation of Indians to hear 20-somethings chant “We want justice” and “We want azadi”. If more than six decades after independence justice remains elusive to the masses and young Indians feel freedom’s fruits have been denied to them, then there’s serious cause for worry. What has been amply evident this past fortnight is that faith in the political class has all but vapourised, as has trust in the Government. The Prime Minister and his Council of Ministers should have sleepless nights, so should the leaders of all political parties. They could, of course, pretend all is fine and, as Union Home Minister Sushil Kumar Shinde bluntly but correctly said people forget sooner than later, believe today’s news will cease to agitate the young and old tomorrow. Delhi’s ghastly shame will become just another statistical detail in the rape capital of the nation.

Yet, it would be in order to caution our unhearing politicians who think paying lip service to popular disquiet and reading out prepared texts drafted by self-serving bureaucrats, as a feckless Prime Minister did in the name of addressing the nation without even once lifting his eyes and ending with a “Theek hai?”, that their little tricks do not impress any more. People are tired of vacuous promises and worn clichés; they want to see Government exercising its authority and politicians serving the interests of the people, not the other way round. Having said that, it would also be in order to remind those condemning the Government and the political class of something I have often said in these columns: Yatha praja, tatha raja — as the people, so the rulers. Yes, the Congress-led UPA Government has proved to be an unmitigated disaster. Yes, internal security, of which policing is a major component, is in a shambles. Yes, corruption taints every act of Government. But this regime did not parachute into power, it was voted to office by the same middle-classes which are now chanting “Hai-hai”.

It could be argued, and perhaps justifiably so, that nothing is gained by going back into the past and citing examples of where we collectively failed — as a society, as a nation. But an imperfect past cannot lead us to a perfect future; lessons need to be drawn and we must rebuke ourselves too for having missed several opportunities to do so. Public memory is notoriously short and few would remember Priyadarshini Mattoo. She was raped and killed by Santosh Kumar Singh, son of an Inspector-General of Police, in 1996. Not surprisingly, the trial court acquitted him of that crime; it required a collective hue-and-cry for the Delhi High Court to reverse that repugnant acquittal and sentence the rapist to death. That happened in 2006. Four years later the Supreme Court decreed that the crime was not among the rarest of the rare and commuted the death penalty. For all we know, and media never follows stories once they are done with, Santosh Kumar Singh is out on parole. (Where is Boorkha - cannot she have a debate on this at the very least? Keeping it in news - naah - she is a rented lady, so is Kajdeep)

Examples abound. The killers of Jessica Lal almost escaped the law with the trial court acquitting them after witnesses, nearly all of them well-known faces of Delhi’s high society, turned ‘hostile’. Once again, it was popular furore that saw the High Court overturning the trial court’s perversion of justice and sentencing the killers to life in jail in 2006. The Supreme Court upheld the verdict in 2010. The story, however, does not end there. Manu Sharma, who shot Jessica Lal, gets to take a break from Tihar Jail whenever he wishes to — his father is a Congress leader; out of prison he is spotted at Delhi’s popular watering holes. Biti, the son of Director-General of Odisha Police BB Mohanti, was sentenced to life by a fast-track court after being held guilty of raping a German woman in Rajasthan in 2007. A couple of years later he secured parole and has been missing since then. SPS Rathore rose to the dizzying heights of the police hierarchy in Haryana and was held guilty of sexually molesting a teenaged girl, whose family he hounded till she committed suicide, decades later after he had retired with full honours.

The list of such gross miscarriage of justice, of perversion of the law, is too long to be reproduced here. What is important to note is that we, the people, either forget or fail to shame and shun perpetrators of crimes against women. There is no social cost attached to denying women their rights and their dignity. Worse, we, including women, wilfully collude, in denying those rights and that dignity to even the unborn: Violence against women begins with female foeticide. If the law is lax, so is our attitude.

Yes, we need police reforms. Yes, the political class needs a mindset change. Yes, judiciary should do its job with greater vigour and integrity. Yes, we need to junk our antiquated penal and criminal codes that date back to 1861 and adopt an entirely new set of codes. Yes, the punishment for crimes like rape cannot be left to the discretion of judges of trial courts. Yes, the law should be tough and free of loopholes. And a lot more. But what about society at large? What about we, the people, holding a mirror to our faces and asking ourselves: Are we what we want others to be like? Till we do that, it’s pointless to pretend rage over the gruesome crime committed against a hapless woman in a moving bus or feign sorrow.

(The writer is a senior journalist based in Delhi)

[harbans]

Have you wondered why the Newtown killer or the Guy who shot firemen in New York, are never labelled as Christians but invariably anything which goes wrong in India gets tagged with Hindu/RSS etc.?

Vikram Ji, i have and the answer is that the American is correct. The Oklahoma bomber, the Connecticut shooter are not Christians, yet 'anything' wrong with India is Hindu. Truth is that is what we claim ourselves. We included everyone amongst us who are not Muslim or Christian as Hindu. When we could not explain what a Hindu is we tried to say it's a way of life. Meanwhile Christians in the last few decades have been desperately trying to associate their faith with value systems, we who hold Dharma sacred have argued, hemmed and hawed against Value systems. We have today more faith in Chanakya and Manu than we have in Ram, Krishna and Dharma. When we understand how the rug is being pulled right under our carpets by our very own branding of ourselves, we will understand our folly. Yes Ram Singh Thakur and the 5 animals were very much Hindu. They certainly were not Dharmic.

[Yayavar]

From the way the fellows lured the victims, I think this is a repeat offense. There is background to the case not coming out. These guys are not first time offenders. That bus has been used before for similar crimes.

Seems quite probable. Let us see what comes out.

[brihaspati]

ramana ji,
they must have done this before. Either the women survived and but never talked or the police helped to cover it up. There must be traces in recent changes in the "beat" arrangements for the traffic cops - there were new ones in place who had not yet been fully placed "in" the network, or who had not been entirely satisfied with the amounts given by the gang.

If that is so, it will not "come out".

[ramana]

VikramS, Didn't senior members go on a self flagellating exercise right here and post wrong labelled images? Didn't members post comments by idiot Mahesh Butt? We have this modern mind which goes into paroxysm of self laothing against Hinduism whenever such heinous crimes occur.

What has Hinduism got to do with these criminals who most likely were bribing the Delhi Bullice and felt immunity to commit the crime.

Its a crime and has to be punished.

Next work on preventing its recurrence.

The second part is difficult for it means all the politicians have to change.
INC, BJP, SP and all other four letter parties.

[disha]

Just could be OT - but also wanted to say, I cringe at the RIP. Hindus and Buddhists believe in reincarnation, and there is no permanent "resting" for a body or the soul. I would wish her to return, to fulfill what has remained unfulfilled. Come back as a child who completes what she had originally set out to do. Indic is about celebrating life, not an everlasting death awaiting some magical revival at an unspecified future date. You should not rest, you should come back, and fulfill your destiny.

^ +1 and all the cries about moksha and nirvana is silly as well.

[vishvak]

Selective heart bleeders, pseudo-seculars and such elements who pass off as civilized part of society in media are busy giving cover of ignorance and silence.

There are no reports on corruption in private bus scene, no reports on corruption nexus involving police bus operators and politicians, no reports on where the royal baba Raul Maino is, no reports condemning chief minister and linking the name of CM to law and order problem, no reports on victim's antim Samskaara and antyesti, no reports babus in mismanagement of protests, no reports on who ordered lathicharge and teargas on young protestors, and so on and on.

Complete sell out to ruling party?

[disha]

^^^ Sell out is a very mild word. Sickular media is rented, painted and dented. Their supporters are too. A resident of a red-light area are more respectful and should get more respect, not the sickular media and their supporters.

[ramana]

Pratibha Patil:

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/delh ... bha-patil/

How many rapists did she pardon as President?

India Today claims protests all over India

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/delh ... 39977.html

Atleast they should have suspended their ads/ pictures on these pages.

[SaiK]

Pratibha Patil:

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/delh ... bha-patil/

How many rapists did she pardon as President?

[ramana]

That was quick. So people do read BRF and not just the Hindutva folks as alleged by super Clouseau.

here is another link to Ms PP's outburst:

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/delh ... 40041.html

[disha]

Not to loose heart, Google Chacha is here! Search for "Pratibha Patil Pardons"

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes ... -molai-ram

Reproducing in full:

Ahead of demitting office, President Pratibha Patil has scored a new record. She has commuted the death sentence of as many as 35 convicts to life — among them are those convicted of mass murder, kidnapping, rape and killing of children.

On June 2, Patil gave her pardon to four more — Bandu Baburao Tidke from Karnataka, Buntu from Uttar Pradesh and Lalchand alias Laliya Dhoom and Shiv Lal from Rajasthan. As a swami of Sadashiva Appana Math, Bagalkot, Tidke abducted a 16-year-old schoolgirl, raped and murdered her. UP's Bantu, on death row since July 2008, was convicted of raping and killing a five-year-old girl.

In fact, almost all the convicts pardoned are guilty of the most blood-curdling crimes. Piara Singh, Sarabjit Singh, Gurdev Singh and Satnam Singh had massacred 17 of a family at a marriage function. Gopi and Mohan (Tamil Nadu) and Molai Ram and Santosh (Madhya Pradesh) had raped and murdered little girls.

The large scale of presidential pardons is seen as surprising. That is because India has not yet abolished the death penalty.

Were these pardons diluting the legal provision through the backdoor? Archana Dutta, Rashtrapati Bhavan spokesperson, said the President was well aware of constitutional provisions as she was a lawyer herself. "The President only takes a decision to commute a death sentence or reject it after she is satisfied by the advice tendered by the government. The President ensures that the government has put in certain application of mind to give mitigating and extenuating circumstances for their advice,'' she said.

Notwithstanding Dutta's assertion, the speed with which Patil has granted pardons would indicate haste. Those shown clemency have been held guilty of barbaric crimes. These appear to have met the criterion of the "rarest of the rare" crimes that attract death penalty. While Patil has shown mercy to mass killers and rapists and killers of children, she has not given the same treatment to political assassins like the killers of former Punjab chief minister Beant Singh or Rajiv Gandhi.

With the June 2 decision to grant four more pardons, the President boasts of a disposal rate of 200%. In recent times President K R Narayanan received 10 petitions and disposed of only one in his tenure. A P J Abdul Kalam inherited nine petitions with another 16 added in his term, taking the total to 25. He disposed of only two — rejecting one and pardoning the other.

Presidential pardon
Article 72 empowers President to pardon, grant reprieve or suspend, remit, commute sentence of person convicted of any offence

President guided by home minister, council of ministers

Exercise of the executive prerogative subject to judicial review

Pratibha Patil has granted clemency to 35 convicts — a record 22 of those killed by these 35 were women and children

Patil rejected 3 pleas

Afzal Guru's among pending mercy petitions

Since 1981, more than 90 have pleaded for clemency

Patil's disposal rate is about 200% unlike K R Narayanan who only disposed of one petition of the 10 he received and Kalam who had a disposal rate of 12.5%

Clemency call
APJ Abdul Kalam | Had 25 mercy petitions. Rejected plea of Dhananjoy Chatterjee, India's last recorded execution. Commuted one to life. Returned others

K R Narayanan | Sat on all pleas. Used delay as tactic. Received about 10 mercy pleas


Some sentences commuted
SATISH | Killed & brutalized Visakha, 6, a UP resident, in 2001

MOLAI RAM & SANTOSH YADAV | Raped and killed 10-yr-old daughter of jailor in MP prison in 1996

DHARMENDRA SINGH and NARENDRA YADAV | UP duo killed couple and their 3 minor kids in 1994

PIARA SINGH and HIS THREE SONS| From Punjab, massacred 17 of a wedding party

SHOBHIT CHAMAR | Of Bihar. Jailed for killing 6 of an upper caste landlord's family, including 2 kids

R GOVINDSWAMY | From Kerala, sentenced for murder of his paternal uncle, aunt, their three children over a land dispute

SHYAM MANOHAR, SHEO RAM, PRAKASH, RAVINDER SURESH and HARISH | Killed five, including a 10-yr-old boy, over a property dispute

OM PRAKASH | From Uttarakhand, murdered retired brigadier and two family members

SUSHIL MURMU | Sacrificed a 9-yr-old boy in Jharkhand for his own prosperity

MOHAN and GOPI | From TN, kidnapped 10-yr-old boy, strangled him, got Rs 5 lakh as ransom

JAIKUMAR | Murdered pregnant sister-in-law and niece

[Surya]

Did I miss it?? Is arundhati in some coma ??


How come I see no comments by the POS who said IA has a policy of rape.

tempted to ask in twitter land

[disha]

Pratibha patil is a CongI bootlicker. She is trending on twitter now., reason Pratibha Patil the congi bootlicker asked for the stringent anti-rape laws. Here are some twitter trends

@GappistanRadio : Pratibha Patil must be feeling really helpless today just like every Indian but for different reasons, She can't pardon these rapists.. 4 hours 56 mins ago
@riya043 : Arnab Goswami wants Pratibha Patil to come on Newshour and answer why she pardoned rapists. Love him. 5 hours 36 mins ago
@riya043 : Pratibha Patil asking for strict action against rapists is like Rakhi Sawant asking for ban on item songs.. 5 hours 37 mins ago
@ScorpiusMaximus : Pratibha Patil asking for stringent anti rape laws, Abhishek Manu Singhvi preaching against forced sex, too much in one single day. 5 hours 46 mins ago

[disha]

...How come I see no comments by the POS who said IA has a policy of rape....

A real piece of s$$t at least becomes manure. Why are you abusing manure by calling Arundhati a POS?

[disha]

Cannot trust India-today, so reproducing here from one of their URLs http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/prat ... 00860.html

Govindasamy's life is mired in controversy. Some call him a simpleton, others a depraved killer. He murdered five of his relatives brutally in their sleep in 1984, but nobody saw him do it. To some, he killed because his parents were tortured over a land dispute, to others, it's a cold-blooded murder. The only certain truth is: He faced five near-executions and three mercy plea rejections in his 22-year-long wait for death. The man from a dirt-poor family in Tamil Nadu is the first beneficiary of President Pratibha Patil's clemency largesse. By a Government Order on December 31, 2009, the 45-year-old is on a new lease of life at the Coimbatore jail.

No President in India's history has used the power to pardon death-row inmates as extensively as President Patil. She has granted a record of 30 pardons in the last 28 months, over 90 per cent of India's total death sentences pardoned ever. But 22 of those relate to brutal multiple murders and gruesome crimes on children, the worst of what human beings can do to one another. Some are rogues who lived on the edge of law and bounced in and out of the penal system for most of their adult lives. Yet others have shocked the conscience of the courts by the viciousness of their crimes. Do they deserve mercy?

Think of Sushil Murmu. On December 11, 1996, nine-year-old Chirku Besra went missing in Hazaribag, Jharkhand. While his father looked for him, Murmu lured the boy into his home and beheaded him in a ritual "sacrifice" to Goddess Kali. Later, he stashed the body in a gunny bag, lugged it on his bicycle and threw it into a lake. It was not the first such crime for Murmu. Investigations revealed that he had "sacrificed" his own brother earlier. Upholding the death penalty in 2004, the Supreme Court noted it to be a "crime against humanity". Murmu was pardoned by the President on February 9, 2012.

MERCY, SHE WROTE

Patil has pardoned criminals who have shocked the conscience of the Supreme Court.

Sushil Murmu | Pardoned in Feb 2012

He beheaded a nine-year-old boy in a ritual 'sacrifice' for prosperity to Goddess Kali in 1996. Had similarly 'sacrificed' his own brother.

Molai Ram and Santosh Yadav | Feb 2012

Guard and gardener to a jailer, they raped and killed his daughter within the prison premises in 1996. Santosh was serving a rape sentence then.

Mohan and Gopi | Feb 2012

The brothers kidnapped a boy in 1993, tortured and killed him and then went ahead to extract a ransom of Rs.5 lakh from his family.

Shobhit Chamar | Oct 2011

He and his gang gunned down male members of a family and killed two children to prevent revenge. The court noted that he rejoiced after the crime.

Dharmender Singh and Narendra Yadav | June 2010

Killed a family of five in 1994 when the minor daughter resisted rape attempt. Three people were beheaded and a 10-year-old boy tossed into the fire.

The Supreme Court has no choice but to accept it. As the legendary American jurist, Oliver Wendel Holmes, pointed out, in a modern democracy, the power to punish with death rests with the judiciary and the power to spare life with the executive. "It is for the judiciary to find a person guilty or not and their job ends there," says former chief justice of India, J.S. Verma. "Mercy is entirely an executive process, for the President to decide. The judiciary should stay out of it."

In June 2010, the nation reacted with visceral revulsion when Dharmender Singh and Narendra Yadav of Uttar Pradesh were pardoned. In 1994, they had wiped out a family of five, including a 15-year-old girl. Narendra had tried to rape her a few days before, failing which he conspired with Dharmender to teach the family a lesson: Three people were beheaded while a 10-year-old boy was tossed alive into the fire.

Article 72 of the Constitution gives the president absolute and unfettered power to grant pardon, suspend, remit or commute sentences, even in death penalty. "But he has to act on the advice of the Union Council of Ministers," says jurist Rajeev Dhavan. The president also has to examine the merits of a case himself, as upheld in the Kehar Singh case of 1999. In 2005, for instance, former president APJ Abdul Kalam started considering the mercy petition of Govindasamy in a positive light when he found "there were no eyewitness" to the murders the man had committed.

One wonders on what grounds Shobhit Chamar won his pardon in 2011. A landless cobbler from Tirojpur Durgawati village in Bihar's Bhabua district, he was condemned to death for killing six members of his upper-caste landlord's family, including two children aged 10 and eight, on suspicion that the family was behind the murder of his brother. "He exhibited the most inhuman conduct while rejoicing his victory after the commission of the crime," the apex court noted in 1998.

Almost every case of clemency in 2012 tells the story of unmitigated brutality against children. On February 20, 1996, Molai Ram was on duty as a guard at the jailor's quarter in Central Jail, Rewa, Madhya Pradesh. Santosh Yadav, already serving a rape sentence, was assigned to tend the garden. The jailor's minor daughter went missing, to surface the next day in a septic tank at a nearby cattleshed. Ram and Yadav had raped and strangulated her.

"The philosophy of punishment rests on four tenets," says Markandey Katju, former Supreme Court judge, now Press Council chairman. "It can be a deterrent and work by creating fear. It can be retributive, making one pay for it." It can also be preventive, to stall a crime; or reformative, to strengthen the human character. It's the last theory that inevitably works behind clemency. That's what Kalam wrote on Govindasamy in 2005: Law is also "a medium of reform".

But for over two years after being elected on July 25, 2007, President Patil had simply carried on with the old tradition of allowing mercy petitions to gather dust. As reported by Minister of State for Home Affairs M. Ramachandran in the Rajya Sabha in May, there were 34 pending petitions when she took up Govindasamy's case, whittled down rapidly to 19 now.

Other anomalies abound: Gurmeet Singh, on death-row for killing 13 people in 1986, doesn't feature in the pardon list even after 25 years in jail and two mercy appeals. Why has the 2003 mercy petition of Devender Pal Singh Bhullar, the 1993 Delhi bomb attacker, moved up the list and ahead of the 2000 petition of Rajiv Gandhi's assassins? The Supreme Court is concerned and has asked for all mercy records. "The power of the President to pardon is premised on the assumption that it works in public interest," says jurist Uday U Lalit, special prosecutor appointed by SC in the 2G scam. But if pardoning powers are found to be "perverse or mala fide", the judiciary has the right to review. That is a sceptre that hangs over the president. "In that sense the power to pardon is neither absolute nor unfettered," he points out.

President Patil's acts have put mercy on trial in these unmerciful times. With growing international consensus towards abolition of death penalty, India's inability to balance crime and punishment may turn into an embarrassment.

Govindasamy is now busy with his new passion of book-binding in jail, perfectly unaware that he has become a footnote in history.

Read more at: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/prat ... 00860.html

[SaiK]

However high office any human can take, a RAPE must have life sentence, and combined with a murder means death sentence. This is as universal law as one human kind can see.. how can this be different to Indian netas? A murder combined with Rape, and a gang one at that.

A triple crime here in a single instance!

[Prem]

Koi Akkhe Sutte Singh nu, Kaddi bundh Akhhiya Khole
Terri DND Sarkar dey duss horr Kinne Khulan gey Pole
Ik Pharya se Doctor minority Da, Ditte Australian Phatte tuu chuck
Ajj Children of Soil Rovandey, Terra Chuuppdda nahi Huss
Ik Jinnah Batwara Kitta Jameen Da
Lakhha Galley gyye see Cuttt
Ajj Kitta Batwara tuu Zameer da
Budde Bewakoof UPA Suck
Phir oothe Gaa koi Udham Singh
Dikhaoo Diili Billi nuu Hatth
Moral, Mental Maut Singh
Tuu Tey terri Sarkar ney
Khoya Indians Kahan da Haq
wey.......
Koi Sharm Kar , Szoottya!

[disha]

CongI bootlicker speaks: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/delh ... 40041.html. What skeletons is she hiding?

[ramana]

Now the doctors are asking why was the victim shifted to S'Pore hospital when she was totally unwell. Read the TOI story about her blood pressure dropping to 80 while on the plane.

i hope the super cops of IB are happy for enabling her death.


LINK

NEW DELHI/KOLKATA: The decision to shift her to Singapore was not a medical decision and was based on "direction from the top (government)", said a senior doctor at Safdarjung Hospital, where Nirbhaya was being treated. Nirbhaya had suffered irreversible brain damage in the early hours of Wednesday, 22 hours before she was airlifted to Singapore, the doctor told TOI.

According to the doctor, damage to the brain was caused by a thromboembolic attack — a clot in the blood vessel — which also triggered two consequent cardiac arrests. "While the heart function could be revived by giving DC shock, the brain function was damaged irreversibly during the process. A neurologist was called to examine the pupils which showed sluggish reaction on shining a torchlight," the doctor said. He also said there was no possibility of the patient undergoing any transplant in that condition.

Sources said inotropic drugs (which alter the strength of heartbeats) were used to keep Nirbhaya's heart beating while she was being airlifted to Singapore. But she still went into near collapse in the air ambulance when her blood pressure dipped alarmingly. The doctors on board created an arterial line to monitor the blood pressure real-time.

"The shifting of the victim who had suffered irreversible brain damage, after two consequent cardiac arrests and septicemia was ethically and morally wrong," said Dr Deepak Agarwal, senior neurosurgeon at the AIIMS trauma centre. He dismissed the government claims that Mount Elizabeth hospital was selected as it has state-of-the-art organ transplant facility. "The fact is a patient with two cardiac arrests and septicemia cannot undergo transplant. She was at best an organ donor not a recipient," said Agarwal. He added, "I would suspect she was brain dead already."

However, Dr Yatin Mehta, chairman of the Medanta Institute of Critical Care and Anesthesiology, who was part of the team that accompanied her to Singapore, said the doctors were fully aware the girl wasn't fit to withstand an intestine transplant. She was flown to Singapore in a last-ditch attempt to try and revive her in a set-up that was far better than Safdarjung Hospital. "Let me be honest. Despite the best efforts and arrangements that we made for her here, they can't be compared to Mount Elizabeth Hospital. It has a far better set-up, with an environment and facilities that are not available in India. The priority was to save her life. We were not even thinking of an intestine transplant," added Mehta.

Mehta said he would have been "pleasantly surprised" if she survived. He, however, refused to comment on whether the decision to fly her to Singapore was logical. "I am not saying she was not in a condition to be flown. But she was in no state to undergo a transplant. When she was taken out of Safdarjung Hospital, Nirbhaya was on a ventilator. She had a serious infection, had already undergone three surgeries and suffered a cardiac arrest. Her blood was not clotting well. Her blood pressure had stabilized but she was not breathing properly," he said.

"On the flight, her blood pressure dropped to 80 from 120, but she responded to the measures that were taken immediately. It was clear that she would struggle to survive even in Singapore," Mehta told TOI in Kolkata on his way back from Singapore.

Dr Samiran Nundy, gastro-intestinal surgeon at Sir Ganga Ram hospital, said, "The patient could have been served better in India. The girl was not in a condition to undergo transplant immediately and infection control was being done successfully by the doctors at Safdarjung hospital." Nundy, who has worked for 21 years at AIIMS, said the government could also shift the patient to the institute which would have helped in avoiding unnecessary travel.

When contacted, the chairman and managing director of Medanta Medicity Dr Naresh Trehan said the decision to shift the patient was taken by the treating doctors, not him. "I was contacted to assess if the patient could be airlifted. We have air ambulance facility and a team of experts who regularly ferry international patients suffering from serious medical problems," Trehan said.

"I did not take the call. I cannot comment on this issue," said Dr Anil Aggarwal, chief of the department of gastro-intestinal surgery at G B Pant hospital, who was a part of the team of doctors treating the victim whose intestines and blood vessels were ruptured when she was brutalized.


{Clear shifting of responsiblity! Must all have taken the Hypocratic oath!}

Dr Devi Shetty, renowned cardiac surgeon, said he supported the government decision. "They made an effort which, I would believe, was taken in the best interest of the patient. She was a young and brave girl and could have come out of the trauma," he said.

{this guy needs a brain transplant}

Experts say that a patient has to be hemodynamically stable and there should be no infection to undergo the transplant procedure. "If the brain is damaged, the transplant cannot be carried out," said Dr Sanjeev Bagai, CEO and Dean Radiant Life Care which manages the BLK hospital.

so the poor girl was Rangooned by the Brown East India Company to die in a foreign land under advise of super cops of IB!!!

Does anyone think these rascals will protect India? I mean the cops.

[ramana]

X-Posted....

quote="yogendra"XPosted from Outrage thread.

Is this the same Ramsingh who is one of the 6/7 accused of the rape? He had appeared before in Kiran Bedi's Aap ki Kacheri complaining against his employer.

Other news report about the rape also had mentioned passingly that Ram singh was involved in an accident before and that there was an metal plate/rod surgically inserted in his hand.

Watch the video! The owner complains that Ram Singh is illegally using the bus and driver while drinking. Kran Bedi asks "How do you know that he is driving after drinking?".

what is the name of the owner in that video?

[ramana]

X-posting again....
The UPA Delhi durbar is what it would look if the Kauravas won the Mahbharat.

With Satyavati Sonia who will leave no stone unturned to make her nalaayak progeny the ruler. With all the hundred Kauravas personified in Rahul under Shakuni Doggy Singh's guidance. Priyanka is Dhushala and her husband Robert Vadera is Saindhav. We have MMS Drhitarastra the blind PM. Vidur, Bhisma all are dead. We have Kripacharya BRaman cheering from sidelines and Bahauka Chidu running the Treasury.

No Krishna to save Draupadi who dies of gangrene.

Pandavs are the napunsak aam aadmi led by appeasers.

The UPA attracts all the vinal supporters in media and outside.

[Rishirishi]

Moving her to Singapore clearly made no sense at all. It was probably an attempt to avoid mass demonstration outside the Hospital.

In any case the Congress image is further tarnished. Trolls like the Manu Sharma case is bound to resurface. He murdered the poor girl in broad daylight, in front of everyone. The public should demand his death sentence.

[ramana]

Manu Sharma will claim double jeopardy. And the dishonorable court will agree.

[ramana]

MD Nalpat writes
http://www.sunday-guardian.com/news/gir ... onsibility

‘Girl was shifted abroad to divert responsibility’

Soon after the protests, Delhi Chief Minister Sheila Dikshit wanted the victim to be transferred to a better hospital than Safdarjung, but this request by the CM was rejected, said a source.
MADHAV NALAPAT NEW DELHI | 29th Dec 2012


Indian protestors sit behind lighted candles during a protest in New Delhi on December 29, 2012. after the death of a gangrape victim from the Indian capital. AFP

The Delhi-based victim of the 16 December gang rape in a moving bus was "shifted to Singapore when it was already clear that she would not survive the next 48 hours," a senior official connected with logistics claimed. He added that "soon after the protests, Delhi Chief Minister Sheila Dikshit wanted the victim to be transferred to a better hospital than Safdarjung" (most likely Medanta in Gurgaon). According to him, this request by the CM was rejected as "those in the decision-making loop (presumably the Prime Minister and the Home Minister) were worried that secrecy would no longer be maintained were the victim to be transferred from the government-run Safdarjung Hospital to Medanta". According to the official, who is unwilling to reveal his identity, there was considerable disquiet among a section of the medical staff about the late-night decision on 27 December to transfer the battered girl out of the country, in view of the trauma and strain that a such a major shift would entail. His claim is that the decision (to shift the patient to Singapore) was taken because "those at the top felt that public reaction would be less severe, were her death to occur out of the country". A question that is likely never to be satisfactorily answered is whether the cardiac arrest the victim suffered — and which resulted in irreversible brain damage — was exacerbated by the shift, or would have resulted in her death anyway. The Prime Minister's Office and the Ministry of Home Affairs both claim that the decision to shift the victim to Singapore was taken solely "according to the wishes of the doctors attending on her" at Safdarjung Hospital. They portray the move to Singapore as proof that the Manmohan Singh government "left no stone unturned to try and save the life of the girl", and deny that her health situation was "already hopeless" when the decision was taken to move her out of the country.

The official agreed that the hospital in question in the city-state had much better facilities for an organ transplant than Safdarjung Hospital, but pointed out that "the time for such a measure would come only after her overall vital parameters stabilised", and that this could have been done in either Safdarjung Hospital or at Medanta. He claimed that the decision to shift the patient to Singapore was seen by some medical staff as a "desperate move by a government nervous at the reaction to the possible death of the victim in a government hospital" rather than a genuine effort at saving a precious life. "All that the government wants is to somehow manage the perception situation till the public cools down," before going back to business as usual. He adds that "intelligence agencies have recorded that the routine measures announced after the rape, such as the appointment of a commission headed by a retired judge, has done nothing to dampen public anger at the bad policing which is at the heart of the law and order crisis in Delhi". It remains to be seen whether the death of the victim abroad rather than at home will ensure that public anger gets dampened. Given the country's justice system, a legal expert said that "fast-tracking the trial of the six accused will be almost impossible, for they each have a constitutional right to appeal to higher courts, besides the obvious fact that one of only two witnesses to the crime (both victims) is now dead and unable to testify". Others point to the allegedly "slipshod and dilatory way in which crucial evidence was gathered in the case", including not preventing the possible destruction of evidence caused by subsequently cleaning the bus in which the rape and murder took place, as evidence. However, the Delhi Police point out that all six culprits were identified and apprehended within hours, as proof of their performance.

{No mention of the hafta diary which enabled this quick round up! and negligence of the DP in not stopping tthe bus with no lights and curtains down as it was on the hafta roll.}


Unless a public hearing takes place, which involve all those who handled the situation after the criminal act was committed, including the policepersons, doctors and others at the crime scene and by the hospital bed of the victim, it may be impossible to know if the Manmohan Singh government is being truthful in its repeated claims that the 23-year-old victim was shifted from Delhi to Singapore not so that her death would take place on foreign soil but solely with a view towards saving her life. Doctors of high reputation and integrity — both from Safdarjung Hospital and Medanta — are involved in the case, and it is unlikely that they would jeopardise their careers and their reputations by revealing anything other than the truth. A full and public enquiry is the only way forward in such a sensitive matter, rather than — as usual — a small group coming to conclusions in seclusion. The question needing to be answered is: Was the victim already beyond hope when the decision was made to shift her to Singapore? Also, if not, what was the advantage of the other country when it came to the immediate question of stabilizing the condition of the patient, when world-class facilities exist within the National Capital Region itself for that very purpose? The official who claims that the victim was shifted to divert responsibility rather than to seek to save her life says that "all those involved in this cynical exercise know the truth, including diplomats involved". However, this view is controverted by those claiming that the government did all that was humanely possible to save a precious and innocent life, reportedly including spending a total of Rs 6 crores on transfer to Singapore and treatment there. An official involved in some of the decisions asked why, "if the family of the girl is satisfied (with what the government has done), why should others point fingers?" Whatever be the reactions of the victim's family, the incident is generating many more questions than answers with each passing day.

[Surya]

btw while we hammer the DP, the IPS officer Ms Damayanti Sen who cracked the Park street case got put in the garage

The outrage should also extend to bringing her back.

[ramana]

Volcano rumbles in Delhi

http://www.sunday-guardian.com/news/vol ... s-in-delhi

Volcano rumbles in Delhi
ABHIMANYU SINGH NEW DELHI | 29th Dec 2012


Indian protesters hold torches during a rally in New Delhi late December 29,2012, after the death of a gang rape victim from the Indian capital. AFP

Delhi's citizens were out on the streets yet again to mourn and protest the gang rape of a 23-year-old girl who died early Saturday morning at the Mount Elizabeth Hospital in Singapore. However, unlike the violent protests that occurred over the last weekend at Raisina Hill and India Gate, Saturday saw the protesters take out silent marches to express their grief over the tragic death of the victim of the gang rape. The medical student, who had popularly come to be known as Damini, suffered massive internal damage, a brain injury, and had a heart attack. Her body was scheduled to be flown back on Saturday night, but hadn't arrived when the paper went to press.

Students of Jawaharlal Nehru University took out a silent march from Ganga Dhaba — a canteen inside the university campus — to the bus-stop in Munirka from where the girl boarded the private bus on 16 December night with her boyfriend. The gang rape that took place afterwards, committed by a group of six men inside the moving bus, has had the nation shocked, disgusted and enraged for the last 13 days, while the girl battled for her life, first in Safdarjung Hospital in the capital and later at the Singapore hospital. If Saturday was any indication, similar protests are likely to continue unless the perpetrators are brought to justice, swiftly and strongly.

The JNU protest march, which initially consisted only of students, saw bystanders and locals of the area joining in. At least 700-800 protesters were gathered at the bus-stop when the peaceful march stopped at around 1:30 p.m., after taking the Ber Sarai route, and covering approximately 3 km. Protesters carried flowers and placed them at the bus-stop to pay homage to the deceased girl. A banner carried by a protester read: "You are an inspiration for us all." Women of all ages, including school girls from the nearby Kendriya Vidyalaya, attended the march in large numbers, along with the men.

Meanwhile, despite the closing down of ten metro-stations in central Delhi, a sizeable number of protesters assembled at Jantar Mantar, the government designated protest venue.
Delhi Chief Minister Sheila Dikshit, who tried to meet the protesters at Jantar Mantar, was driven away by the irate crowd, who shouted “we want justice”.

By evening, at least 5,000 protesters had assembled at the spot. The protesters, a large number of them young students, especially women, had no centralised leadership guiding them, although leaders and activists like Gopal Rai of the Aam Aadmi Party and V.K. Singh, the former army chief, were present. Delhi Chief Minister Sheila Dikshit, who tried to meet the protesters at Jantar Mantar was driven away by the irate crowd, who shouted "we want justice". Several protesters sported black bands on their person to mark their grief. Others placed flowers on the ground and lit candles.

"Whatever happened was wrong. Government has not been able to control it. This is not about one girl. Many women face such things," said Javed Raza, general secretary, JD(U), who was present at the venue.

Raza demanded that a committee comprising the representatives of all political parties should be formed and an all party meet should be convened. He said that a special session of Parliament was not required as the recently formed Justice Verma committee was already looking into the matter.

While capital punishment for the accused in the case and otherwise for rapists was the overwhelming sentiment prevalent among the protesters — as it has been since the gruesome incident — some opposed it. "Capital punishment is not the option. Women are let off after rape, at least in many cases. If capital punishment comes in, their lives would be endangered," said Abdul Bari, a civil service aspirant.

However, Subodh Kumar, another civil services aspirant, said, "Capital punishment should be given, at least in the rarest of the rare cases, even if the victim survives and an amendment must be made in the law." He added that capital punishment should also be given in cases of rapes with minors.

The situation at Jantar Mantar got tense at 6:10 p.m. when the protesters, after observing silence for two minutes, decided to take out another silent march. The police acquiesced and allowed them to walk for 1 km along the periphery of the venue through a circular route, which led back to the spot. Protesters gave a call for "Bharat Bandh" on sunday by shouting the slogan: "Doston Kal Kya Hoga. Sara Bharat Bandh Hoga."

[ramana]

Read and lament:

http://www.sunday-guardian.com/news/bab ... ut-on-bail

[ramana]

btw while we hammer the DP, the IPS officer Ms Damayanti Sen who cracked the Park street case got put in the garage

The outrage should also extend to bringing her back.

Come again? What are the particulars of the case?
If she is hero may be she should be put in charge of the clean up.

Do you disagree that DP should be cleaned up or are you happy with the current state of insecurity?

[Surya]

- no disagreements on the hammering of the DP officer echelons

but same effort must be put to bring back the rare honest cop who fought for the victim. Else we cannot just say the cops dont have spine to stand up to the politicians


the case details

Victim raped at gunpoint while returning from club

Mamta makes derogatory statement that it is all staged and here chamchas ask why a mother of two was clubbing and senior police officers downplayed it

Still Ms Damayanti Sen JC of police kept on the case and cracked it sending senior police officers scurrying to Mamta to avoid the fall out

next thing she is sent to the garage

The rape victim came on Arnabs show and said it was thanks to her case was solved else it would have gone nowhere

[ramana]

So may be she is the right person to head DP clean up.

[Surya]

yes the cleanup process can be done by the roster of good cops and babus who have been transferred umpteen times by politicians for crossing them

[arindam]

It is high time the intellectuals of our country takes a reality check and give a thought or two on gender equality! Their absence of comment on this glaringly visible disparity is quite conspicuous.

It is also the responsibility of media to highlight this thought and build a national consensus through the most viable mediums present. Well, I am not asking media to take all the responsibility but at least for once they can shoulder the burden, which they so profusely take proud of.

A few journo have indeed set the ball rolling but would be nice, if for a change it doesn't gather moss, thanks to our goldfish memory syndrome.

It is thus the collective responsibility of sustaining the welcome change with an adept politician at the helm of affair.

I live in a fairy wonderland, I am happy and satisfied!

[member_23651]

Gangrape victim cremated in New Delhi amid tight security

[ramana]

Gangrape victim cremated in New Delhi amid tight security
PTI
New Delhi, December 30, 2012

The body of the dead gangrape victim wrapped in white shroud arrives at a funeral parlour for embalment in Singapore before being flown back to India. (AFP Photo)

Amid outpouring of anger and grief in the country, the body of the 23-year-old gangrape victim was flown in New Delhi from Singapore early on Sunday morning and cremated within hours.

The mortal remains were flown to the capital in a special aircraft of Air India and after landing
at IGI airport, the plane was taken to its technical area where Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Congress chief Sonia Gandhi were present to receive the body.

Both Singh and Gandhi spoke to the family members and consoled them.

The body was then taken to Mahavir Enclave residence where the girl lived and religious rituals were performed before taking it to the crematorium at Dwarka Sector 24 amid heavy deployment of Delhi Police and RAF personnel.

The cremation took place under a dense cover of fog.

Minister of state for home affairs RPN Singh, West Delhi MP Mahabal Mishra, Delhi BJP chief Vijender Gupta were also present at the cremation.

Media was not allowed in the crematorium.

A special aircraft of Air India carrying the mortal remains of the victim, who died in Mount Elizebeth hospital on Saturday morning, landed at IGI airport in New Delhi at around 3.30am on Sunday.

The girl, a physiotherapy student, was gangraped and brutally assaulted allegedly by six men in a moving bus in south Delhi on December 16 night. She died on Saturday morning.

While undergoing treatment at Safdarjung hospital, she was shifted to the Singapore hospital for further treatment.

The aircraft AIC-380A took off from Singapore at around 12:30am local time (10:00pm IST Saturday), Indian high commission officials said.

On the chartered plane, sent by the government, were her family members who have been in Singapore since the girl was brought to the hospital in an extremely critical condition.

The victim, who underwent three surgeries, had damaged internal organs in the assault. She also suffered a cardiac arrest and brain injury.

{All this happened in India and the PTI report pretends it happened in Singapore. How low can the SLIME stoop?}[/i


Police have slapped murder charges, which has death penalty in rarest of rare cases, against the six accused and will file the chargesheet against them on January three.
{why wait till Jan 3? is it good muhurat? or so they can enjoy New Years party? }


Investigators said they will seek the harshest punishment for the culprits.

{Oh really? Thier own goons will fix the evidence so nothing will come out. And then there is the nonsense about being drunk so they will claim actinng under infleunce of alcohol. Who is the 7th person?}

[ramana]

So BJP is also involved in the cover-up.

[Yayavar]

So BJP is also involved in the cover-up.

Confused...is it because a BJP person was at the funeral???

[SaiK]

Why this hurry for cremation? Is it per the girl's religious needs or something else? Why are the gov people attending the funeral?