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Its all in the Bible. The rise of the Islamist Caliphate is important to reinforce the faith of EJ's in the Bible. So here's sharing the good news:

Radical Islam Conquering Egypt
Now that Egypt has gone Islamic, this will have huge and rapid consequences for the Middle East. Gerald Flurry explains what this means for America, Europe, Iran and Israel on his Sept. 9, 2012, Key of David program, “Daniel 11:42 & 43 Now Fulfilled.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=mb9mb6Az_Ig#!
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Western Moslem converts syndrome: Alabama terror suspects pleads not guilty
A Mobile man pleaded not guilty on Wednesday to charges of providing support to international terrorists.

U.S. Magistrate Judge Katherine Nelson set a tentative trial date of March 3 for Randy Lamar Rasheed Wilson, 25. But everyone involved in the case, including the judge, said the trial will likely be delayed because the charges are so unusual and the evidence so vast and complicated.

.... Federal agents arrested Wilson earlier this month as he was boarding a plane with his young family headed to Morocco. Prosecutors allege Wilson planned to travel from Morocco to another African country and support fellow Muslims in waging terrorist activity. The same day, agents arrested Mohammad Abdul Rahman Abukhdair, a 25-year-old Egyptian native and former business partner of Wilson's.

The government alleges the two men plotted with others to travel overseas and join international terrorists. The government also alleges Wilson was influenced by his friendship with fellow Mobile-area native Omar Hammami. Hammami grew up in Alabama and was raised Muslim. He later moved to Somalia and became a leading figure in the group al-Shabab. Hammami is on the FBI's list of most wanted terrorists.

Wilson's attorney, Domingo Soto, said Wednesday that Wilson has been unfairly targeted because of his past acquaintance with Hammami and that Wilson only wanted to travel to Morocco to study his religion with his family in an Islamic country. {Not uncommon for Western converts to do this, and Morocco has become a favourite destination.}
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Although an apology, this article gives a peek into some of the stuff going on in Egypt.
The practice of the Brotherhood in real life contradicts Islam
The Brotherhood and Salafists do not understand religion the way regular Muslims understand it, wrote Egyptian novelist Alaa Aswani in the Cairo-based paper El Masry El Youm.

The Brotherhood and Salafists claim to be God-fearing, aware of what is wrong and right. Yet they commit all kinds of irregularities: lying, vote-buying, voter intimidation, preventing Copts from casting their vote, cutting electricity at polling stations and the list goes on, the writer noted.

"Just try to level criticism at the Brotherhood Supreme Guide on Facebook or Twitter, and you will receive showers of terrible insults from religious youth assigned by the Guidance Bureau to insult Brotherhood opponents online."
Its interesting how the author enumerates the memes responsible for such problems:
...This is because their understanding of religion, according to Aswani, rests on the following factors:
First: sheer obedience to the Guide. A Brotherhood member swears unquestioning allegiance to the Guide. Stripped of judgement, they back everything he does or says.

Many of these youth are educated: engineers and doctors. But they are all mindlessly subordinated to their leader. For instance, when the Guide was leaving the mosque, the Brotherhood devotees competed over "the honour to put shoes on his feet for him".

Second: they claim an exclusive understanding of religion. When it comes to the Muslim Brotherhood and Salafists, there is no way to debate on religion. Islam to them is exclusively what a sheikh or the Guide says. Most of their online comments are full of mistakes, a sign that many do not read, and that their knowledge is "aural": they sit at the feet of their sheikh, and hear and repeat what he preaches. They will reject any view that is not identical to the their leaders' even it is from eminent scholars.

Third: they demonise opponents. The Brotherhood and Salafist sheikhs usually dehumanise their rivals, strip them of individuality and brand them as "secularists", "lackeys of the West", "enemies of sharia" and "agents of Zionism".

By claiming to exclusively own the truth while dubbing their challengers as collaborators and enemies of religion, it is only natural that they will not allow their opponents to have the same rights as their own. Hence, the shameful assaults against protesters near the presidential palace.

Fourth: the great conspiracy. Supporters of the Brotherhood and Salafists are persuaded by their sheikhs that a US-led conspiracy against Islam has been in place. And since they blindly toe the line of their sheikhs, it is hard for them to find out that what concerns the US is its interests and Israel's security, not Islam. Yet leaders persist in using this notion to mobilise the youth.
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Londonistan has given us the now world-famous neologism "Islamophobia", and now it continues to lead human civilization by further authoring Scene II of this great biblical end times drama.

Christianophobia in the ME
A British think tank has released a lengthy report claiming that militant Islam is the greatest existential threat to Middle Eastern Christianity, bringing Christian communities in the region "close to extinction."

The London-based Civitas, also known as the Institute for the Study of Civil Society, published the report in December. "Christianity is in serious danger of being wiped out in its biblical heartlands because of Islamic oppression," reads a statement from the group issued Sunday.

"But Western politicians and media largely ignore the widespread persecution of Christians in the Middle East and the wider world because they are afraid they will be accused of racism."

Titled "Christianophobia" :rotfl: and written by reporter and Religion Editor for The Times Literary Supplement Rupert Shortt, the report details the persecution of Christians in Burma, China, Egypt, India, Iraq, Nigeria, and Pakistan.

"It is generally accepted that many faith-based groups face discrimination or persecution to some degree. A far less widely grasped fact is that Christians are targeted more than any other body of believers," wrote Shortt.

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While noting the large-scale persecution of Christians in societies that are Communist, Buddhist, or Hindu, Shortt stressed the growing impact of intolerance in Islamic countries.

"In the large area between Morocco and Pakistan, for example, there is scarcely a country in which church life operates without restrictions. Syria has been one of the exceptions until now," wrote Shortt.

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Anthony O'Mahony of Heythrop College, London, echoes other scholars in estimating that between a half and two-thirds of Christians in the region have left or been killed over the past century."

"To this end we need to be able to conduct an open and mutually respectful dialogue," it said. "However, the situation is complicated by the way in which some defenders of Islam have tried to shut down the sort of full and free discussion which we expect in Western societies to be able to have about all systems of belief by accusing critics of 'Islamophobia'…"
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Meanwhile, for those with no BP problems, peruse at will...

http://www.christianpost.com/region/india/
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Carl wrote:Londonistan has given us the now world-famous neologism "Islamophobia", and now it continues to lead human civilization by further authoring Scene II of this great biblical end times drama.

Christianophobia in the ME
A far less widely grasped fact is that Christians are targeted more than any other body of believers," wrote Shortt.
Why is it a "far less widely grasped fact"? Haven't there been enough large scale cases of this in the Middle-East and Northern Africa to attract attention? Or has this been generally suppressed because of American and British interests there which have generally tended to support violent overthrow of Christian-tolerant regimes through the Islamists?
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But the Articles happily clubs Dicrimination against Christians in MENA with India. thats apples to oranges really.
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Some news from Germany
Police say an Indian student in Germany has been attacked and injured by suspected Islamic extremists who accosted him and demanded that he convert to Islam.

Police spokesman Frank Piontek said on Thursday that two attackers in the western German city of Bonn severely beat the 24-year-old and then slashed his tongue with a knife.

Police say the attackers walked up to the student in a city street late Monday and demanded that he convert to Islam then beat him up after he refused to do so.

The student, whose identity wasn't given in line with German privacy rules, was taken to a hospital for treatment. He was released a day later.

The Bonn police's department for politically motivated crimes is investigating.
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Kenop - the incident in Germany reminded me of a similar incident in Kashmir a couple of years ago; similar MO - catch a non Muslim and try to forcibly convert.
Some unidentified persons allegedly beat up and chopped off the hair of a Sikh youth, Mithunpal Singh, a resident of Tral in Pulwama district, about 160 km from here.
Deputy inspector General of Police in south Kashmir, Shafaqat Watali, said, “Some youth asked him to raise pro-freedom slogans. He obliged. But when they asked him to recite kalma (Islamic prayer), he resisted. They beat him and some of his hair was chopped off.”
Link from HTimes
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kenop wrote:Some news from Germany
Police say an Indian student in Germany has been attacked and injured by suspected Islamic extremists who accosted him and demanded that he convert to Islam.

Police spokesman Frank Piontek said on Thursday that two attackers in the western German city of Bonn severely beat the 24-year-old and then slashed his tongue with a knife.

Police say the attackers walked up to the student in a city street late Monday and demanded that he convert to Islam then beat him up after he refused to do so.

The student, whose identity wasn't given in line with German privacy rules, was taken to a hospital for treatment. He was released a day later.

The Bonn police's department for politically motivated crimes is investigating.
The Der Spiegel article that was cited for the story of an Indian student being intimidated into converting to Mohammaddenism in Germany:

Student's Tongue Cut in Possible Islamist Attack
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Anindya wrote:Kenop - the incident in Germany reminded me of a similar incident in Kashmir a couple of years ago; similar MO - catch a non Muslim and try to forcibly convert.
Some unidentified persons allegedly beat up and chopped off the hair of a Sikh youth, Mithunpal Singh, a resident of Tral in Pulwama district, about 160 km from here.
Deputy inspector General of Police in south Kashmir, Shafaqat Watali, said, “Some youth asked him to raise pro-freedom slogans. He obliged. But when they asked him to recite kalma (Islamic prayer), he resisted. They beat him and some of his hair was chopped off.”
Link from HTimes
I have a friend in Edinburgh who used to be approached in a hospital common room at lunchtime and asked why he was not at namaz. But look at it in another way. Christianity and Islam spread because they take the attitude that one non Christian or non Muslim is a crime. That is why you have Christian groups howling even as it is claimed as the biggest religion, and you have Muslim groups claiming that it is the fastest spreading religion or howling Islamophobia

Both religions spread like contagious diseases from their point of origin wiping out everything in their respective paths.
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In fact a heathen is an affront to their gods, even though said heathen is merely going about his heathenary, he is living proof that their gods are weak, they can be dismissed at will. Now this makes the god fearing man look extremely foolish. he is ever at risk for a thrashing from his god-but look at that spindly legged Hindoo heathen, he goes about unmolested. Hence the doubts and the cognitive disonance. the god fearing man is left with two options-subvert and convert or abandon his god. This is the explanation for post-colonial European post-Christianity.

It is an interesting conundrum-expand and loot but lose your culture in the bargain.
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Interesting perspective - especially since, a Pakistanis are present in increasingly significant numbers in Greece, now.

Athens - the EU capital city without a mosque
At Friday prayers and across Athens, Muslims gather in underground, cramped prayer rooms.

The makeshift facilities are illegal but this huge community faces no other option. Athens, a metropolis on the edge of the Muslim world, is one of the few EU capitals without a mosque.

Since Greece gained independence from the Ottoman Empire in 1832, no government has allowed a mosque to be built in the city. It was seen by many as "un-Greek" - out of place in a country in which much more than 90% of the population are Orthodox Christians.

But as Greece has become the main entry point for migrants to the EU, its Muslim population has swelled.

Some estimates place the number of Muslims in Athens alone at around 300,000, in a city with a population of around five million, and the clamour for an official place of prayer is growing.

"It is a very big tragedy for us Muslims that there is no mosque here," says Syed Mohammad Jamil from the Pakistan-Hellenic Society.

"Greece produced democracy and civilisation and the respect of religion - but they don't respect our Muslims to provide us with a regular, legal mosque."
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Orthodox Christianity goes to the heart of what it means to be Greek and the Bishop here, Seraphim, says his nation must preserve its identity.

"Greece suffered five centuries of Islamic tyranny under Turkish rule and building a mosque would offend the martyrs who freed us," he says.

Greece, he adds, "does not hate anyone" but he believes that "most Muslims have come here illegally" to, as he puts it, "Islamise Europe"....

Marios, a student, disagrees. "We must not have a mosque here," he tells me.

"This is a Christian country and if they want a mosque, they can go back to their own countries and have one."
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Caste violence within Muslims in Bihar
Patna/New Delhi: Bihar’s East Champaran district saw fresh bout of caste violence amongst Muslims in the first week of December.

On December 7 a differentially able man, named Akbar Ali was allegedly attacked by the ‘henchmen’ of ashraf or upper caste Muslims in Rampur Bairiya village in East Champaran. Thinking him to be dead they finally left.
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He also accused the current Mukhiya (Panchayat leader), Sarfaraz Ahmad Khan of leading and inciting violent movements against pasmanda Muslims in the Allahpur hamlet situated in Rampur Bairiya village.

Sarfaraz Khan was allegedly involved in the arson and razing of an entire locality, including the mosques meant for pasmanda Muslims on December 6, 2007. The case is still sub judice, which apparently he had did not mention in his nomination paper.

Sarfaraz Khan was hence mustering grudges against these youth as they brought the fact to the notice of the Election Commission by going to the court, allege the victims’ families.

The social strife is going on for quite some time in Allahpur. Pasmanda Muslims had stopped working in the farms of those dominant forward Muslims and to avoid any humiliation made their separate makeshift straw mosque. This mosque has allegedly damaged twice.

According to Pasmanda villagers, they are often obstructed from using the only pathway that passes from outside the homes of ashraf Muslims.
Looks like this "Allahpur" is the microcosmic precursor of a pure Islamist society.
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so where are the human rights morons? where is Arundhati, Teesta, etc? communal Ashrafs destroyed non-communal Ajlaf mosque. and no outrage from the usual suspects?
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>>a differentially able man

Wtf is that?
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^^politically correct version of older "disabled".
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Masud Alam Falahi (?) (read it a while ago - in Urdu) wrote a book on the casteism within Islam in India - I think his conclusion was that Islamization has intensified rather than diluted "caste" distinctions within Indian Muslims. Pasmanda's have grown out of teh Momin movement in Bihar - but have consistently used their conflict of interest with ashraafs along the "positive discrimination" route onlee, and educationa resources gone into madrassahfication.

At the moment they are not much talked about because that would weaken the bargaining power of the theologians who hold governments and the rashtra to ransom.
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Disaster Movie

When struggling actor Tim Dax was hired to star in a swords-and-sandals movie titled Desert Warrior, he was just happy to have the job. One year later, Dax and the rest of the film’s cast and crew would look on in horror as The Innocence of Muslims—a crudely dubbed version of the movie they thought they were making—ignited protests across the Arab world and controversy at home. Speaking with many of the film’s principals, Michael Joseph Gross reports on a story as old as Hollywood itself: a pursuit of fame and fortune that ended in tears.
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Thanks B.
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The rhetoric much loved in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan that one Mohammadden equals 10 Hindu’s finds its echo in India.

Politician Akbaruddin Owaisi belonging to the Mohammadden political party the Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen says “Muslims would need just 15 minutes without the police to show 100 crore Hindus who is more powerful. ”

:wink: Per Owaisi's comment presumably Justice Sanchar was entirely wrong and the fact of the matter is that the Police force of India is 100% madeup of adherents of Mohammaddenism as surely if that was not the case then the Police would not have been able to hold in check the Mohammadden blow to be delivered upon Hindu's :roll: .

Akbaruddin in trouble for hate speech
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^ the comments section in that link is as educative as Akbaruddin's speech.
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Buried Christian Empire Casts New Light on Early Islam
There was Chruch in Mecca ,Let there be Church in Mecca
rcheologists are studying the ruins of a buried Christian empire in the highlands of Yemen. The sites have sparked a number of questions about the early history of Islam. Was there once a church in Mecca?The commandment "Make yourself no graven image" has long been strictly followed in the Arab world. There are very few statues of the caliphs and ancient kings of the region. The pagan gods in the desert were usually worshipped in an "aniconic" way, that is, as beings without form.Muhammad had a beard, but there are no portraits of him.But now a narcissistic work of human self-portrayal has turned up in Yemen. It is a figure, chiseled in stone, which apparently stems from the era of the Prophet.Yule has analyzed the mysterious, robed figure in a report for the academic journal Antiquity. He is barefoot, which is typical of Coptic saints. He is holding a bundle of twigs, a symbol of peace, in his left hand. There is a crossbar on his staff, giving it the appearance of a cross. In addition, he is wearing a crown on his head like the ones worn by the Christian rulers of ancient Ethiopia.The city had a large Jewish community, as evidenced by a seal with a Torah niche. Hebrew inscriptions were discovered. Zafar's residents also included Christians, who built a church there in 354 AD. Arabs who worshipped old idols lived in the alleys.But this peaceful, multicultural community soon came to an end, as tensions began to mount in the 5th century, and Arabia was transformed into a front.o stop the advance of Christianity, individual Arab kings initially converted to Judaism. The entire ruling class of the realm eventually followed suit. From then on, people were given names like Yehuda and Yussuf.Then they took up arms. In approximately 520 AD, they attacked the Christian colony of Najran, where there were churches and monasteries. Countless Christians were slaughtered. The shocking news traveled all the way to Europe. A 'Puppet King'Now the spiral of violence began turning more rapidly. The furious Byzantines and their allies from Africa were out for revenge. Kaleb, the Aksumite king of Ethiopia (who wore gold jewelry in his hair and had himself driven around in an elephant carriage) went on the counter-offensive.fter the triumph of Islam in the 7th century, the church was torn down and stripped of its treasures, and a mosque was built on the site. As Barbara Finster, an archeologist from the Bavarian city of Bamberg, discovered, some of the columns in the mosque came from the wrecked church, while some of the church's magnificent mosaics were sent to Mecca, essentially as booty.The enmity between Sanaa and Mecca apparently smoldered from the start. Medieval Koran scholars report that Abraha built his magnificent church to lure the pilgrims away from the Kaaba, Islam's most sacred site.Another Islamic source describes how the dispute eventually escalated: An angry native of Mecca relieved himself in the Sanaa church, prompting the furious Abraha to dispatch his warriors, mounted on elephants, to destroy the Kaaba.

There are indications that this could be true. For instance, a Christian cemetery is mentioned in the oldest history of Mecca, written by the Arab historian Asraki.What a mess. In ancient Arabia, the three Abrahamic world religions intersected in confusing ways. But the Koran prevailed in the end.But many things are still unclear. Our perspective is complicated by the fact that the birth of Islam occurred at a time of severe hardship. Climate data obtained from limestone caves in Oman prove that there was a terrible drought in the southern part of the Arabian Peninsula in the middle of the 6th century. There was also a plague epidemic that began in 541 and afflicted the entire Orient. Other, smaller epidemics followed, causing thousands upon thousands of deaths. Even Muhammad, as a young child, was threatened by disease and hunger. According to Ibn Ishak, his wet nurse was deeply concerned when she was told to bring the little boy back to his native city.
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Below are some excerpts from a speech given by a cleric - the reason for posting is that the hatred towards the "other" is quite similar to that expressed by Akbaruddin in his speech...
Dr. Wagdi Ghoneim — who earlier praised Allah for the death of the late Coptic Pope Shenouda, cursing him to hell and damnation on video — made another video, entitled, "A Notice and Warning to the Crusaders in Egypt," a reference to the nation's Copts, which he began by saying, "You are playing with fire in Egypt, I swear, the first people to be burned by the fire are you [Copts]." The video was made in the context of the Tahrir protests against Morsi: Islamic leaders, such as Hegazy and Ghoneim, seek to portray the Copts as dominant elements in those protests; according to them, no real Muslim would participate. Ghoneim even went on to say that most of the people at the protests were Copts, "and we know you hid your [wrist] crosses by lowering your sleeves."

The heart of Ghoneim's message was genocidal: "The day Egyptians — and I don't even mean the Muslim Brotherhood or Salafis, regular Egyptians — feel that you are against them, you will be wiped off the face of the earth. I'm warning you now: do not play with fire!"

Along with trying to incite Egypt's Muslims against the Copts, and threatening them with annihilation, Ghoneim made other telling assertions, including:

Addressing the Christians of Egypt as "Crusaders," once again showing Islam's simplistic, black-and-white vision, which clumps all Christians — of all nations, past and present, regardless of historical context and denomination — as one, in accordance with an Islamic tradition that states "All infidels are one religion."

Comparing Christian Copts to animals: "Respect yourselves and live with us and we will protect you... Why?... because Allah has forbidden me to be cruel to animals. I'm not trying to compare you to animals … but if I am not cruel to animals or plants, shall I be cruel to a soul created by Allah? You are an infidel in Allah's sight — and it is for him to judge you. However, when you live in my country, it is forbidden for me to be unjust to you — but that doesn't mean we are equal. No, oh no."

Telling Copts: "I want to remind you that Egypt is a Muslim country.... if you don't like the Muslim Sharia, you have eight countries that have a Cross on their flag [in Europe], so go to them. However, if you want to stay here in Egypt with us, know your place and be respectful. You already have all your rights — by Allah, even more than Muslims... No one investigates your homes, no one investigates your churches. In fact, in the past, the Islamic groups used to fake their IDs and put Christian names on them when they would go out for [jihadi] operations, so that when the police would catch them, they would see they are Christians and be left alone." Ghoneim misses the irony of what he says: Police know that Egyptian Christians are not going to engage in terror; Egyptian Muslims are suspect.

Saying, in mocking tones, towards the end: "What do you think — that America will protect you? Let's be very clear, America will not protect you. If so, it would have protected the Christians of Iraq when they were being butchered!" — a reference to the fact that, after the U.S. ousted Saddam Hussein, half of Iraq's Christian population has either been butchered or fled the nation, and all under U.S. auspices.

Claiming that the Copts are only four million while the Muslims are 85 million — even as Coptic Orthodox Church registries maintain that there are more than 15 million Copts, and most outside analysts say 10 million— and adding that Morsi was only being nice by saying, as he did during one of his speeches: "There are no minorities in Egypt." Ghoneim fails to explain, if Copts are so few — four million compared to 85 million — how could they be so influential, and flood the Tahrir protests with such large numbers?

Mocking new Coptic Pope Tawadros—not surprising considering his great hate for the former Pope—by claiming that the new Pope urged Copts to protest; that the new Pope wants to see Morsi and Sharia law fall, and by adding, "Is it not enough that you have all those monasteries?"
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Mohammaddens in Syria behead follower of Christism and feed his remains to dogs:

Syrian rebels 'beheaded Christian and fed him to dogs'
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Mohammaddens in Nigeria slit the throats of followers of Christism. :

Nigerian Islamists slit throats of 15 Christians
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Never mind that now convicted and hanged Pakistani origin Mohammadden Terrorist Ajmal Kasab murdered many Indian’s, a Mohammadden Cleric in Kerala decides that he warrants a prayer for the departed :x :

Prayers for Ajmal Kasab at mosque: Police launch probe
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A cleric from Saudi gives fatwa in favor of jihadis in Syria: fatwa explained
A Wahhabi religious cleric in Saudi Arabia, Muhammed al-Arifi, who is very influential in Jihadi circles, has recently issued a fatwa (religious edict) that permits all Jihadist militants in Syria to engage in short-lived marriages with Syrian women that each lasts for a few hours in order to satisfy their sexual desires and boost their determination in killing Syrians. He called the marriage as ‘intercourse marriage’. It requires that the Syrian female be at least 14 years old, widowed, or divorced.
Video on the page linked. Apparently the cleric was too annoyed at sexual deprivation of violent and pillaging Jihadis that he had to give a fatwa in favor of jihadis running wild in Syria.
Youtube link: here.
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Prayers for Ajmal Kasab at mosque in Kerala
Kochi: Police have launched an investigation into the offering of prayers at a mosque here for Ajmal Kasab, who was hanged for carrying out the Mumbai terror attack in 2008.

The prayers were reportedly offered by an imam on November 23 after the Friday namaz at the mosque at nearby Trikkakara. After the namaz, prayers were offered for departed souls and the priest had reportedly included the name of Kasab.


When the incident leaked out, police began a probe and questioned the mosque's authorities and those who had participated in the prayers.

The managing committee of the mosque removed the imam from the post after learning about the incident, committee sources said.
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vishvak wrote:A cleric from Saudi gives fatwa in favor of jihadis in Syria: fatwa explained
A Wahhabi religious cleric in Saudi Arabia, Muhammed al-Arifi, who is very influential in Jihadi circles, has recently issued a fatwa (religious edict) that permits all Jihadist militants in Syria to engage in short-lived marriages with Syrian women that each lasts for a few hours in order to satisfy their sexual desires and boost their determination in killing Syrians. He called the marriage as ‘intercourse marriage’. It requires that the Syrian female be at least 14 years old, widowed, or divorced.
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In every cloud there is a silver lining, he has prgressed from 6 to 14 or is it 0 to 14
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Aditya_V wrote:{quote="vishvak"}A cleric from Saudi gives fatwa in favor of jihadis in Syria: fatwa explained
A Wahhabi religious cleric in Saudi Arabia, Muhammed al-Arifi, who is very influential in Jihadi circles, has recently issued a fatwa (religious edict) that permits all Jihadist militants in Syria to engage in short-lived marriages with Syrian women that each lasts for a few hours in order to satisfy their sexual desires and boost their determination in killing Syrians. He called the marriage as ‘intercourse marriage’. It requires that the Syrian female be at least 14 years old, widowed, or divorced. {/quote}
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Gives new meaning to "screwing the enemy".

Legally screw the women and shoot the men.
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Trivan.k
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I Dissed, Abused, Argued with Subramanian Swamy39 ji,About his views.But today I publicly say , After seeing OwaISI's Speech- "I was Wrong".

https://twitter.com/trivan205/status/284803575887056896
Slowly people are waking up to Islamism. Hindus will have no choice but to protect themselves if individuals like Owaisi keep inciting violence and hatred towards them and "good" muslims do nothing. Not one Muslim speaking out against his speech on TV or youtube, not one protest. If the majority of Muslims don't get it together quick we will make Syria, Iraq, Yugoslavia, crusades look like childs play. It's up to them.
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Owaisi is doing INC factions work. He is on a path to get rid of Kiran Kumar Reddy as CM of Andhra Pradesh. He has gone on overdrive after his plan to communallise Charminar Bhagmati temple issue failed miserably. He then walked out of the alliance run by KKR.

His earlier ploy was to get the Mahabir Hospital land for his own trust. That too failed.

Some INC fellows think they can stoke communal passions with this has-been razakar.
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Owaisi is likely doing the Center's work. the carefully nurtured monster comes back to swallow the leash, and the holder of the leash...are Andhra elites watching?
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The new Egypt is watching approvingly as teams work to straighten out American society:
‘Why Islam’ Reaches Florida
CAIRO – A leading Muslim organization has launched a new awareness campaign in the central US state of Florida to present an accurate image of Islam and create new opportunities for dialogue with American society.
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Launched on the New Year eve, the campaign “Why Islam” features 29 billboards and latest web technology to drive traffic to ICNA’s YouTube channel and website.

It also includes advertisements on AM Talk radio stations.

A direct call center is already in place to take phone calls to help the callers with the up to date information about Islam by calling 1 (877) Why – Islam (949-47526).

The campaign is the result of a collaborative effort by ICNA in partnership with other American local charities as the American Muslim Community Centers), the United Muslim Foundation and Islamic Center of Orlando.
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The pamphlets covered a number of subjects, including the relationship of Muslims to Christians and Jews, human rights, status of women, the afterlife, worship and one titled "What does Islam say about terrorism?"
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"Islam has so much in common with Christianity and Judaism," Virji said.
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Is Islam compatible with democracy?
by Semih Idiz in the Turkish daily 'Hurriyet'.
Turkey is always highlighted when the question of whether Islam is compatible with democracy comes up.
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The fact that the Islamist Justice and Development Party (AKP) won the 2002 general elections and went on to increase its support base in three successive elections is taken as proof that Islam and democracy are compatible. But these electoral victories happened in a Turkey whose system of government is staunchly secular, despite the country’s predominantly Islamic population.

The fact that the AKP emerged under this system is no proof in itself that Islam is compatible with democracy. What will really determine the truth or falsity of that contention for Turkey is whether the AKP, with all the political power it has mustered, will respect “democracy” as this form of government is defined by political science.

Unfortunately, for all the talk of introducing “advanced democracy” emanating from the AKP, the jury is still out on that question. To the contrary, there are developments prompting liberal democrats to fear that, far from “advancing,” Turkish democracy is in regression.

The way the government has been trying to impose its ideological outlook on society by means of education, by trying to interfere in lifestyles or family rights, or by subjective definitions of concepts like the freedom of expression or press freedom, feed this concern.

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan’s self-declared antipathy toward the “separation of powers,” despite his attempts at backpedaling after his remarks, has caused a storm, and the ongoing efforts by the AKP to change the parliamentary system into a presidential one – with the president enjoying unencumbered powers – are other developments that fuel suspicions about this party’s real intentions.

Meanwhile, the developments in the Middle East and North Africa have not provided any evidence yet that Islam is compatible with democracy. All the elections in Egypt and Tunisia have spawned so far are governments led by the Muslim Brotherhood which have demonstrated that shariah is their main point of reference.

The manner in which the Egyptian Constitution was exclusively drafted and put to a referendum by Islamists does not bode well for democracy in that country. Media reports that Egypt’s top prosecutor has ordered an investigation into accusations that opposition leaders are inciting an overthrow of the regime, on the other hand, appears to reflect a copycat tendency, inspired by the Ergenekon and “Balyoz” (Sledgehammer) cases in Turkey, designed to silence the opposition.

Neither has Rached Ghannouchi, the leader of Ennahda, Tunisia’s Muslim Brotherhood offshoot, been inspiring much hope in democrats. He was quoted by Gulfnews.com saying that Islamist movements would eventually become the reference point throughout the Arab world.

Ghannouchi, who does not have an official position in the government led by his party, but is one of the most influential people in Tunisia, was also quoted recently by Al-Arabiya calling for flogging as punishment for people charged with slander.

His comments reportedly came after a female blogger accused his son-in-law of corruption and of engaging in an affair. It appears civil law is not sufficient for this Islamist who prefers Islamic punishment, thus reflecting a mentality whose logical conclusion is cutting hands for stealing and stoning for adultery.

In addition to all this there is hardly any indication to show that what will come out of Syria once Bashar al-Assad is toppled is democracy. The opposite is more likely. In the final analysis, deeds, not words, will show if Islam is compatible with democracy. So the answer to this question has yet to come.

But the indications are not encouraging for the Arab world, and worrying as far as Turkey is concerned.
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X Posted from the TSP thread.

Killing Charity Workers and Women in the Name of Jihad in Pakistan: Same Hatred Supported in Syria :
The stark reality of the New Year is that Islamists will continue to kill in the name of Allah in many nations just like usual. In Syria radical Islamists are killing minorities and mainstream Sunni Muslims, who don’t follow their creed of hatred. Meanwhile in Pakistan it is open season against killing charity workers, health workers and burning people alive who allegedly blaspheme against the prophet of Islam.

Pakistan and other nations including America, the United Kingdom and Saudi Arabia supported Islamists against communist Afghanistan in the 1980s and early 1990s. The consequences of this are still reverberating today. However, the so-called elites in the above named nations have literally “gotten away with mass murder and chaos.”

More alarming, the same destabilization processes which were used against Afghanistan by supporting international jihadist networks in the 1980s and early 1990s is now being used against Syria. This means that mainstream Sunni Muslim clerics are being killed in Syria by international jihadists and indoctrinated Islamists at home. Therefore, the same forces which enabled September 11 to take place are once more involved in supporting radical Sunni Islamism in the Levant.

Of course nations like America, France and the United Kingdom are trying to cover their collective tracks. Yet their collective cover is blown because these nations are not putting pressure on Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar to stop funneling resources, military hardware and creating many terrorist rat-lines in order to enter Syria. On the contrary, the usual players are delegating many intricate webs in order to destabilize Syria and clearly they all know that Islamists are filling the vacuum.

However, the massacre of charity workers by Islamists in Pakistan is a stark reminder that once the “Islamist genie is out,” then it is difficult to put it back in its bottle. Of the seven charity workers that were killed in Pakistan it is known that 6 were women. If Syria is anything to go by then the same Islamists will have probably been chanting “God is great” before killing women in cold blood – and the same applies to the death of the male charity worker. After all, in the world of “year zero Islamists” then killing in the name of Allah is all that matters irrespective if they are killing Muslims or non-Muslims. All that matters to these Islamists is death and destruction.

Prior to nations supporting international Islamists in Afghanistan in the 1980s and early 1990s, then the indoctrination of Salafi Islam and other radical conservative versions which hate diversity were on the back-foot. However, once the leaders of America, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, the United Kingdom and other Gulf states supported Islamic jihadist movements then a barbaric reality entered the vacuum. The consequences of this are still reverberating today and this applies to endless massacres against Shia Muslims in Pakistan, persecution of non-Muslims, enormous discrimination against Ahmadiyya Muslims, attacking teachers who want to educate women and a host of other barbaric realities. ………………….
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Muhammad cartoons: French magazine to publish illustrated prophet biography :D
Charlie Hebdo editor says latest Muhammad cartoons will be 'perfectly halal' :x despite 2006 images sparking global protests
Its editor, Stéphane Charbonnier, known as Charb, made the announcement to Agence France-Presse (AFP), arguing that Life of Muhammad would be "perfectly halal" because it was a compilation of all that had been written about the prophet in the past by Muslim writers and they had "simply put it into images".
The anti-establishment publication, which says its cartoonists are atheists who are interested in satirising all religions, claimed it was publishing a profile to learn more about the prophet. "Before you can have a laugh about a character, it's better to know him," :lol: Charb told AFP. He denied the special edition was an act of provocation.
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Found this interesting table here
1) Democracy statistics are from https://www.eiu.com/public/topical_repo ... yIndex2011
2) Civil liberty from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_in_the_World
3) Political freedom statistics from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_in_the_World
4) Press freedom statistics from http://en.rsf.org/press-freedom-index-2 ... ,1043.html

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Cell Phones Fatwa Invites India Uproar
http://www.onislam.net/english/news/asi ... bates.html
CAIRO – A new fatwa by a leading Islamic seminary banning the use of multimedia cell phones on its campus is inviting uproar over the right of students to get access to advanced technology.
“Such features (cameras and videos) cause an adverse effect on academics,” Maulana Abdul Khalik, deputy vice-chancellor of Asia's leading Islamic seminary Darul Uloom Deoband (DuD), told Times of India on Tuesday, January 1.“We've cautioned students from whom such cellphones were seized. Next time, strong disciplinary action would be taken against erring students.The issue came to light Sunday after 14 mobile phones with cameras and internet access were seized from students.The seizure followed earlier warnings to students over reports that they were misusing multi-media cell phones for purposes which were not morally acceptable.Abdul Khalik argued that students were allowed to use simple handsets without camera or video features because these features were causing an adverse effect on academics.The ban does not include personal laptops.“But even if they are found misusing them, similar action will follow against them,” a Deoband source said.The source dismissed accusations that the ban would deprive students of access to the outside world.“The faculty provides Internet access to the students who are free to use it as and when they want to,” he said.“Hence there was no restriction over students gaining access to the information technology in any way.”Founded by a group of Indian scholars in 1857 CE, the Deoband is the most influential Muslim intellectual school of thought in South Asia.”
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