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Hints of Syrian Chemical Push Set Off Global Effort to Stop It
By ERIC SCHMITT and DAVID E. SANGER

WASHINGTON — In the last days of November, Israel’s top military commanders called the Pentagon to discuss troubling intelligence that was showing up on satellite imagery: Syrian troops appeared to be mixing chemicals at two storage sites, probably the deadly nerve gas sarin, and filling dozens of 500-pounds bombs that could be loaded on airplanes.

Within hours President Obama was notified, and the alarm grew over the weekend, as the munitions were loaded onto vehicles near Syrian air bases. In briefings, administration officials were told that if Syria’s increasingly desperate president, Bashar al-Assad, ordered the weapons to be used, they could be airborne in less than two hours — too fast for the United States to act, in all likelihood.

What followed next, officials said, was a remarkable show of international cooperation over a civil war in which the United States, Arab states, Russia and China have almost never agreed on a common course of action.

The combination of a public warning by Mr. Obama and more sharply worded private messages sent to the Syrian leader and his military commanders through Russia and others, including Iraq, Turkey and possibly Jordan, stopped the chemical mixing and the bomb preparation. A week later Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta said the worst fears were over — for the time being.

But concern remains that Mr. Assad could now use the weapons produced that week at any moment. American and European officials say that while a crisis was averted in that week from late November to early December, they are by no means resting easy.

“I think the Russians understood this is the one thing that could get us to intervene in the war,” one senior defense official said last week. “What Assad understood, and whether that understanding changes if he gets cornered in the next few months, that’s anyone’s guess.”

While chemical weapons are technically considered a “weapon of mass destruction” — along with biological and nuclear weapons — in fact they are hard to use and hard to deliver. Whether an attack is effective can depend on the winds and the terrain. Sometimes attacks are hard to detect, even after the fact. Syrian forces could employ them in a village or a neighborhood, some officials say, and it would take time for the outside world to know.

But the scare a month ago has renewed debate about whether the West should help the Syrian opposition destroy Mr. Assad’s air force, which he would need to deliver those 500-pound bombs.

The chemical munitions are still in storage areas that are near or on Syrian air bases, ready for deployment on short notice, officials said.

The Obama administration and other governments have said little in public about the chemical weapons movements, in part because of concern about compromising sources of intelligence about the activities of Mr. Assad’s forces. This account is based on interviews with more than half a dozen military, intelligence and diplomatic officials, all of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the intelligence matters involved.

The head of Germany’s foreign intelligence service, the BND, warned in a confidential assessment last month that the weapons could now be deployed four to six hours after orders were issued, and that Mr. Assad had a special adviser at his side who oversaw control of the weapons, the German newsmagazine Der Spiegel reported. Some American and other allied officials, however, said in interviews that the sarin-laden bombs could be loaded on planes and airborne in less than two hours.

“Let’s just say right now, it would be a relatively easy thing to load this quickly onto aircraft,” said one Western diplomat.

How the United States and Israel, along with Arab states, would respond remains a mystery. American and allied officials have talked vaguely of having developed “contingency plans” in case they decided to intervene in an effort to neutralize the chemical weapons, a task that the Pentagon estimates would require upward of 75,000 troops. But there have been no evident signs of preparations for any such effort.

The United States military has quietly sent a task force of more than 150 planners and other specialists to Jordan to help the armed forces there, among other things, prepare for the possibility that Syria will lose control of its chemical weapons.

Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, was reported to have traveled to Jordan in recent weeks, and the Israeli news media have said the topic of discussion was how to deal with Syrian weapons if it appeared that they could be transferred to Lebanon, where Hezbollah could lob them over the border to Israel. But the plans, to the extent they exist, remain secret.

American, Israeli and other allied officials remained fixed on this potential crisis, especially as the opposition appears to have gained more momentum, seizing several Syrian military bases and the weapons stored there, and have been closing in on Damascus, the Syrian capital.


In response, Syria has reached deeper into its conventional arsenal, including firing Scud ballistic missiles at rebel positions near Aleppo. Over the past week a new concern emerged: Syrian forces began shooting new, accurate short-range missiles, believed to have been manufactured in Iran. None had chemical warheads. But their use showed that the Syrian military was now deploying a more accurate weapon than the notoriously inaccurate Scud missiles they have used in previous attacks.

As the fighting has escalated, American and other allied officials have said that government troops have moved some of the chemical stockpiles to safer locations, a consolidation that, if it continues, could actually help Western forces should they have to enter Syria to seize control of the munitions or destroy them.

Syria’s chemical weapons are under the control of a secretive Syrian air force organization called Unit 450, a highly vetted outfit that is deemed one of the most loyal to the Assad government given the importance of the weapons in its custody.

American officials said that some of the back-channel messages in recent weeks were directed at the commanders of this unit, warning them — as Mr. Obama warned Mr. Assad on Dec. 3 — that they would be held personally responsible if the government used its chemical weapons.

Asked about these communications and whether they have been successful, an American intelligence official said only, “The topic is extremely sensitive, and public discussion, even on background, will be problematic.”

Allied officials say whatever safeguards the Syrian government have taken, there remains great concern that the weapons could fall into the hands of Islamist extremists fighting the government or the militant group Hezbollah, which has established small training camps near some of the storage sites.

“Militants who got their hands on such munitions would find it difficult to deploy them effectively without the associated aircraft, artillery or rocket launcher systems,” said Jeremy Binnie, a terrorism and insurgency specialist at IHS Jane’s Defense Weekly. “That said, Hezbollah would probably be able to deploy them effectively against Israel with a bit of help.”
The US intel told allies that they have been mixing at 3 sites/airports ready to be loaded onto planes destined for Damascus suburbs. Message received via HUMINT sources. Appeal was made in December to NATO allies to provide support to the SF operations to seize the chem weapons incl medical help.

Most NATO allies were very suspicious of US intel. They dont think that the HUMINT is reliable. French are adamant and saying that they have seen no evidence - TECHINT and satellite surveillance of the Syrians preparing to deploy chem weapons. Hillary aunty was trying to do the convincing also.
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Nightwatch on Egypt

9 Jan 2013
Egypt: Recent economic analyses of Egypt show that the economic cost of Islamic democracy is heavy.

In the six months of protests about the preparation of the constitution, the Mursi government has neglected the economy to try to build its legitimacy. The economy, by most measures, has come to a halt and 80% of Egyptians voted against Mursi or declined to vote. Mursi heads a minority government with no money.

The budget deficit rose by 38%, or $13.1 billion over six months; the Egyptian pound slipped 6% against the US dollar; unemployment rose from 8.9% to 12.4% and GDP growth fell from 5.0 % in 2011 to 0.5 % last year. The decline in GDP is greater than any other country that experienced an Arab Spring event.

The Egyptian rich did not trust their wealth to the goodwill of the Mursi government. Foreign reserves were halved because of capital flight and the transfer of savings abroad.

The outflow led to the imposition of currency controls at the end of December. Egypt has a 50% trade deficit that used to be offset by earnings from tourism and remittances from workers abroad, but the tourists are staying away and remittances have declined.

Standard & Poor's downgraded Egypt's credit rating to B-minus, six levels below credit grade. Before the downgrade, Egypt paid 13.54% for a one-year treasury bond. After the downgrade, the sale of bonds was canceled to avoid higher interest rates. According to the economic analysts, credit swaps showed Egypt ranking among the ten worst credit risks, along with Greece and Pakistan.

Comment: Entitlements and subsidies needed to be cut, according to Egyptian economic experts, but the government deferred austerity plans and tax increases in order to get the constitution passed in December. Shortages of essentials, including bread, jobs and all kinds of fuel, remain serious.

The government of Qatar has extended $2.5 billion in loans and grants to Egypt as a stop-gap measure. Egypt also is trying to obtain a $4.8 billion loan from the International Monetary Fund, but Fund officials doubt Egypt has the determination to implement the austerity measures they require as a condition for the loan. Meanwhile, simmering political instability and unsettled economic and political issues are likely to deter tourists and investors.
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Reports Free Syrian Army taken control of Taftanaz Airport in Northern .#Syria. If true, significant.
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How is it 'significant' ? It was one of the first towns to join the rebel movement, so it should have been in rebel hands all along no, how did it fall back to govt hands when the area was amongst the first to have tremendous backing for rebels.
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Talking about the major airbase which is used for all sorts of things (logistics, troops transfers etc) - not the town.
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Town was the first town to have majority rebel support at the beginning of the uprising.
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Confirmation of what I have been talking about for the last few months:

"President Francois Hollande says French troops are taking part in operations against Islamists in northern Mali.

French troops "have brought... support to Malian units to fight against terrorist elements", Mr Hollande said.

He said the intervention was in line with international law, and had been agreed with Malian President Dioncounda Traore."
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^Rji

Are credit swaps, bonds etc per islamic banking?

Perhaps we should ask all the islamic conference members to make interest free investments. And announce the fact that they are unislamic if they disagree.
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The State Dept. now believes that the Syrian govt has used chemical weapons against its citizens, reports @joshrogin http://atfp.co/VYXUiB
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Well then, time for CM, F-15, F-16's, Raflae, Eurofighter to show up over Syria like in Libya
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This is a North Africa story, but considering that West Asia and North Africa are extensions of the same geopolitical theatre with many similar memes and many of the same strategic players involved... perhaps this thread should be renamed West Asia and North Africa News & Discussions?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/bp-admits-secu ... nance.html

Algeria: 'Several Brits Held Hostage, One Killed'

"Al Qaeda linked" Algerian militants have seized control of a BP gas field in Algeria, taking many British, Americans and other Westerners hostage. They are demanding a cessation of the French military campaign against "Al Qaeda linked" militants in Mali.
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The State Dept. now believes that the Syrian govt has used chemical weapons against its citizens, reports @joshrogin http://atfp.co/VYXUiB
state dept also believe ISI is interested in peace and US courts should throw out case against them :P
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http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2013/ ... sy-as.html

France Displays Unhinged Hypocrisy as Bombs Fall on Mali
TIME claims the intervention seeks to stop "Islamist" terrorists from overrunning both Africa and all of Europe. Specifically, the article states:

"...there is a (probably well-founded) fear in France that a radical Islamist Mali threatens France most of all, since most of the Islamists are French speakers and many have relatives in France. (Intelligence sources in Paris have told TIME that they’ve identified aspiring jihadis leaving France for northern Mali to train and fight.) Al-Qaeda in Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), one of the three groups that make up the Malian Islamist alliance and which provides much of the leadership, has also designated France — the representative of Western power in the region — as a prime target for attack."

What TIME elects not to tell readers is that Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) is closely allied to the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG whom France intervened on behalf of during NATO's 2011 proxy-invasion of Libya - providing weapons, training, special forces and even aircraft to support them in the overthrow of Libya's government.

As far back as August of 2011, Bruce Riedel out of the corporate-financier funded think-tank, the Brookings Institution, wrote "Algeria will be next to fall," where he gleefully predicted success in Libya would embolden radical elements in Algeria, in particular AQIM. Between extremist violence and the prospect of French airstrikes, Riedel hoped to see the fall of the Algerian government.

Ironically Riedel noted:

"Algeria has expressed particular concern that the unrest in Libya could lead to the development of a major safe haven and sanctuary for al-Qaeda and other extremist jihadis."

And thanks to NATO, that is exactly what Libya has become - a Western sponsored sanctuary for Al-Qaeda. AQIM's headway in northern Mali and now French involvement will see the conflict inevitably spill over into Algeria. It should be noted that Riedel is a co-author of "Which Path to Persia?" which openly conspires to arm yet another US State Department-listed terrorist organization (list as #28), the Mujahedin-e Khalq (MEK) to wreak havoc across Iran and help collapse the government there - illustrating a pattern of using clearly terroristic organizations, even those listed as so by the US State Department, to carry out US foreign policy.
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devesh, Connect the recent rumors of Hafiz Suar as a chosen one to combat the Salafists in TSP>
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Sunni armed groups (local tribesmen) in Anbar province have been disrupting the supply line from Baghdad to Damascus (1000km highway).
Some of the groups are led by former saddam VP Al Duri - the leader of the Sunni guerrilla movement

Baghdad has been providing fuel, arms, men and money. These convoys are coming under ambushes inside Iraq. These groups are backed by Gulf intelligence services via Jordanian GID.

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Iranian UAVs are flying over Gulf airspace - US has so far failed to catch or down any of them.
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But devesh ji,
such a sanctuary in Libya is good! Its much closer to Europe's home turf - and islam is a double edged sword, even for those who think it can be made to be cut on only one edge and always on the others but not themselves.
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Interestingly, Assad was to "fall" way back in Autumn. Its now middle of January of the following year.When is he "falling" definitely?
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ramana wrote:devesh, Connect the recent rumors of Hafiz Suar as a chosen one to combat the Salafists in TSP>
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Suar himself is a Salafi. Jamat-ud-Dawa, AFAIK, has Salafi roots.
I think he is being groomed for the "best bet to manage Salafis" image. it's delusion, b/c he is as much an ingrained Salafi as the rest of them, but as long as he keeps himself turned away from focusing on the West, he'll be groomed for that role.

also, there is this so called "fight" between the Taliban and the Salafis.
so another spin could be that he's the "best bet to face against the Taliban".

"manage the Salafis" and "fight the Taliban": these two seem to be the planks that will be used to prop up Suar.
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No Taliban are Salafists.

Hafiz Suar is Ahle hadis. Same as Indian MEA Khurshi*

Please know your Muslims!
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brihaspati wrote:But devesh ji,
such a sanctuary in Libya is good! Its much closer to Europe's home turf - and islam is a double edged sword, even for those who think it can be made to be cut on only one edge and always on the others but not themselves.

bji,

if Algeria falls, and has the strategic depth of Mali, then basically, the entire Southern Mediterranean is a continuous chain of Islamic strongholds from NW to NE Africa.

last time this happened, Southern Europe got embroiled in Civil Wars all the way from Spain to Byzantium.
so yes, the Euros do seem to be astonishingly delusional and short-sighted.

and it's not just the Southern Med, continental S. Europe is already penetrated in the Balkans. a join assault from S. Med, Balkans, and Caucasus will be a major disaster for Euros and also Russia. only one to potentially benefit will be UK, b/c they are going down anyways, and will be happy to see the "upstart" continentals get their comeuppance. The Scandinavians will be insulated by geography, but I can't imagine they'll be too enthused about possibility of Islamic hordes making their way up the continent. France and Germany will be directly on the firing line if the initial defenses in Spain and the peripheral countries is breached. even the Holy City will be threatened.

perhaps the Euros have made some kind of a deal that is giving them this brazen confidence?
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Nightwatch says its Algerian terrorists and not Libyan terrorists in Mali.

Nightwatch 16 Jan 2013
Algeria: Islamist militants, apparently affiliated with al Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb, seized a natural gas facility in east-central Algeria early Wednesday. The 20 or so attackers took as hostages up to 41 foreign supervisors, technicians and workers. They include at least 13 Norwegians and seven Americans, plus one Irishman, and a number of Japanese and British citizens. Two workers died in the attack.


The group announced that this attack was in retaliation for the French use of Algerian airspace to mount their attack against Islamist rebels in Mali. The attack group reportedly is led by a militant named Mokhtar Belmokhtar, an Algerian. He claimed that his group would release the hostages if the French stopped their operations in Mali.


During this Watch, Algerian forces have surrounded the plant and the situation is in a standoff.

Comment: Despite French warnings about retaliation, this plant in eastern Algeria undertook no increased security measures. The salient features of the Islamists in Mali to date are their organization and discipline. Today's action adds to their military repertoire communications connectivity with sympathetic groups in Algeria. The Islamists threatened retaliation over the weekend and they have been as good as their word.

{May be they are Algerians in the first instance in which case they dont need time to react agaisnt hostages?}

Today's attack and hostage-taking occurred a long way from Mali. The al-Qaida franchise in the Saharan region is far more sophisticated and coordinated than the Pashtun and Uzbek tribal fighters in Afghanistan or the tribal Arabs in Yemen. Southern Algeria appears to be their base of operations, not LIbya. :idea:

Mali: Malian and French ground troops clashed with Islamic rebels in Diabaly on 16 January. The French-Malian force has not yet recaptured the village.

Mauritania reportedly has increased its border patrols, reducing the rebel ability to operate with impunity from Mauritanian territory.

Comment: A prominent narrative in the English language press is that the jihadists and Islamist rebels who seized northern Mali, plus their weapons, came from Libya. In fact, the information in the public domain indicates they came from Algeria and maintain connectivity with other Algerian Islamist groups. The attack at the gas facility at In Amenas, Algeria, tends to reinforce that judgment.

The significance is that the Islamist takeover of northern Mali was not a ripple effect from the inept NATO management of the Libyan uprising. It is a more sinister and well planned expansion of the Algerian Islamist rebels, who form the core of al Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb. These are tough guys.

The French are not fighting Libyan terrorists in Mali. They are fighting Algerians …again. Apparently several thousand of them
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But Western and English media take theri cues from the Western govts with the bestest intelligence agencies (Trree and four letter ones). So are they all wrong again?
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ramana wrote:No Taliban are Salafists.

Hafiz Suar is Ahle hadis. Same as Indian MEA Khurshi*

Please know your Muslims!

ramana ji, you are right, Taliban are Salafis.
but Suar's organization is interchangeably called "Salafis", as per Wiki and also many other blog posts and news items.
is there a clear distinction between Suar and the Taliban or is it window-dressing?
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devesh wrote: perhaps the Euros have made some kind of a deal that is giving them this brazen confidence?
Any such deal if made in the past is definitely falling apart now. Algeria was always suspect, some of their political factions have been brainwashed into thinking that a second invasion of Europe through the Gibraltar is in order. Chief among them was Houari Boumediene, who advocated Kosovo type jihad. France is an obvious target due to the colonial oppression.
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US SOC are working with US intel to map all the different armed groups in the region, before French launched strikes the US was busy with COMINT and still don't really understand the picture and what is going on. No one even understands AQIM and who they are, which tribes they represent.

Very isolated place and HUMINT is a big pain even for the regional countries. These guys are funded by a mixture of cigarette smuggling and drugs. It's the same caravan route used by South American guys who deliver the drugs to remote airstrips in west Africa after which it is smuggled across to North African hubs and make its way via boats etc into Spain/France
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/ja ... revolution

Syrian rebels accuse jihadist groups of trying to hijack revolution
Schism develops between al-Qaida-linked units and Free Syrian Army in north of country

Martin Chulov in Aleppo
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 17 January 2013

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A Syrian rebel takes aim at pro-government forces outside Aleppo. Photograph: Elias Edouard/AFP/Getty Images

A schism is developing in northern Syria between jihadists and Free Syrian Army units, which threatens to pitch both groups against each other and open a new phase in the Syrian civil war.

Rebel commanders who fight under the Free Syrian Army banner say they have become increasingly angered by the behaviour of jihadist groups, especially the al-Qaida-aligned Jabhat al-Nusra, who they say aim to hijack the goals of the revolution.

The rising tensions are palpable in the countryside near Aleppo, which has become a stronghold for the well-armed and highly motivated jihadists, many of whom espouse the Bin Laden worldview and see Syria as a theatre in which to conduct a global jihad.

Syrian rebel groups, on the other hand, maintain that their goals are nationalistic and not aimed at imposing Islamic fundamentalism on the society if and when the Assad regime falls.

Fighting between the well-armed jihadists and the regular units who accepted their help from late last summer would mark a dramatic escalation in the conflict that has claimed in excess of 60,000 lives. However, commanders in the north say such an outcome now appears unavoidable.

"We will fight them on day two after Assad falls," one senior commander told the Guardian. "Until then we will no longer work with them."

In recent weeks Liwa al-Tawheed and other militias who form part of the overall Free Syrian Army brand have started conducting their own operations without inviting al-Nusra to join them.

A raid on an infantry school north of Aleppo in mid-December was one such occasion, as are ongoing attacks against Battalion 80 on the outskirts of the city's international airport and a military base to the east, known as Querres.

"They are not happy with us," the rebel commander said. "But they had been hoarding all their weapons anyway."

Another significant issue for rebel leaders is what to do with state assets that have now fallen into the hands of the opposition.

"They see stealing things that used to belong to the government, like copper factories, or any factory, as no problem," said the rebel commander. "They are selling it to the Turks and using the money for themselves. This is wrong. This is money for the people."

Jabhat al-Nusra does not eschew its links to al-Qaida, or the fact that many of its members are veterans of the insurgency against US forces in Iraq, which morphed into a sectarian war between Sunni and Shia Muslims.

In interviews, the group's members say they have learned lessons from Iraq, which saw them battered to the point of strategic defeat by a combination of a sustained push by US and Iraqi forces and a rebellion by Sunni communities against al-Qaida's pervasive and puritanical ways.

So far in Syria, al-Nusra has avoided targeting civilian facilities, or the country's minority communities. It has also started an outreach programme to communities ravaged by almost two years of war. The aid work has won the group some support in the north of the country, while also earning the ire of rebel groups.
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Few Indian workers in UAE turn up to avail amnesty
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Few Indians are queuing up to avail the two-month amnesty announced by the United Arab Emirates (UAE) for all foreign nationals whose visas have expired.

“Around 2000 people only have so far sought out-passes in order to avail the amnesty,” said MK Lokesh, India’s ambassador to the UAE. In a conversation with The Hindu, Mr. Lokesh said that there were no visible signs so far that this trend would reverse.

The tepid response, so far, to amnesty that expires on February 4 or to regularise expired visas by paying a fine, contrasts with earlier occasions when Indians without proper documents, flooded airports to go home without paying a penalty. Around 40,000 Indians exited from the UAE in 2007 when an amnesty was last announced.

The majority of people who have approached Indian diplomatic missions in the UAE for out-passes belong to the South Indian States, especially Tamil Nadu, Andhra Pradesh and Kerala in that order.

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Diplomatic sources said that the presence of fewer claimants for amnesty could be attributed to the changing profile of Indians. The number of residents who are without proper documents may have steeply dropped in recent years, compared to the past.

However, some analysts are of the view that fewer people are leaving as they soon expect a second construction boom to commence in the UAE, opening up fresh job opportunities that they can avail. The government of Abu Dhabi announced on Sunday that it would pump over $90 billion over the next five years in order to develop the emirate as a major world-class transport and communication hub. Earlier, the government of Dubai announced plans to build the world’s largest shopping mall in the city along with 100 new hotels, and a Universal Studios theme park— projects that would open up massive white and blue collar jobs in the construction sector.

The apprehension of an employment ban — once the amnesty seekers leave the country reinforced by the recording of biometric data by immigration authorities of those who exit — may also be dissuading many from leaving. “There is no employment ban for amnesty seekers right now, but some fear that a new order may later be passed that would bar their re-entry to the UAE even after fresh legal documentation has been acquired,” a diplomat said.

MIDDLE-MEN MAKE A KILLING

As the countdown for the expiration of the amnesty scheme begins, the ubiquitous middle-man has begun to make a killing. “My uncle’s visa has expired three years ago and the “dalal” [middle man] wants 17,000 Dirhams (Rs. 2,52,000) to pay the penalty and for arranging a new work visa,” says Ravi, a resident of Karimnagar district of Andhra Pradesh.

He points out that manyare shelling out the cash in the hope that they would be able to recover the amount in less than a year, once their new job starts generating fresh income.

While UAE immigration authorities have opened up many sites, which amnesty seekers can directly approach, many needlessly employ middlemen who charge hefty sums to complete the final phase of formalities before their travel can commence.
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@MahirZeynalov: RT @fehimtastekin: AFP: A Kurdish resident of Ras al-Ain said the jihadists crossed the Turkish border with three tanks into Ras al-Ain.
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Some commentators in KSA are calling the current geopolitical situation similar to the follow on of the battle of Hattin - where Egyptian army under the command of Saladin created a sunni revival in the Levant and elsewhere. They want to go to Jerusalem after the victory of Syria - just as in history.
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shyamd wrote:Some commentators in KSA are calling the current geopolitical situation similar to the follow on of the battle of Hattin - where Egyptian army under the command of Saladin created a sunni revival in the Levant and elsewhere. They want to go to Jerusalem after the victory of Syria - just as in history.
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Well the tea leaves show thats the limit they want to approach. Only this time the Anglo-Saxon West is enabling/facilitating this unlike in Battle of Hattin.
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Well Battle of Hattin was the high point - and if they go by analogy they should start turning in anticipation in their graves.

(1) Salahuddin was a Kurdi - so Neo-Hattin would mean Kurdi revival.
(2) Salahuddin's rise was at the cost of peninsular Arab power - he ruthlessly finished off the Arab upstarts.
(3) After Hattin - Richard came, with matching ruthlessness
(4) After Richard left, Salahuddin died soon after - and all the "great" Muslim army vanished.
(5) Instead of reviving, Arab Sunnism was essentially kicked into the desert dust. Soon after that the Turks came and moved the centre of the Islamic world away from Arabia.
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Is there any truth to this news ?

President Assad and his family 'are now living on a warship guarded by the Russians off Syrian coast'

Syrian president Bashar Assad moved on to warship with family and aides
Russian naval forces believed to be protecting the embattled dictator
Position is also thought to allow quick evacuation to Moscow, if necessary
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Syria tightens control on Lebanon border
By Abigail Fielding-Smith in Qaa
The thud of shellfire echoed in the snow-covered fields in the Bekaa Valley in the latest salvo of what Syrian rebels say is a concerted effort by President Bashar al-Assad’s army to strengthen its control of the border with Lebanon.
Gathered in an orchard close to the border, Syrian fighters said they worry they will no longer be able to supply their fighters in central Syria as the regime closes down a vital lifeline and demonstrates its tenaciousness in the face of rebel advances.

“If we don’t gather forces and target the regime on the borders and make a hole, nothing will change,” said a man who gave his name as Abdullah.
At first glance, it is not clear why the regime would send scarce resources to the Lebanese border when its biggest battles are in other parts of the country. Rebels overran a key military base in the northern province of Idlib last week, and advances they made in the Damascus suburbs last year have forced Mr Assad’s forces to use significant firepower to push them back.
But the central province of Homs, which links Damascus to the regime heartland in the Alawite coastal area of Latakia, has great strategic importance for the control of Syria. Some rebels and analysts argue it is essential to taking Damascus.
“The real battle is going to happen in Homs after the north. It’s the last front before Damascus,” said Ahmed, another fighter. “The best way to defend Damascus is blocking Homs.”
This time last year, when rebels were fighting for Homs, wounded fighters and ammunition were pouring in opposite directions through unofficial crossings on the Lebanese border. Rebels said they used to bribe Syrian border guards at checkpoints – one fighter claims you could “buy” one for $2,000 a day.

The regime has been gradually tightening its control there for several months, but rebels say that in the past few weeks Damascus has increased the number of checkpoints along the long, mountainous border, cutting off their smuggling routes.
Abu Berri, a commander with the Farouq brigade in Homs, insisted that the border was too long for the regime ever to be able to block off rebel routes across it completely, but that admitted it had become “much harder” to cross.
“Over there, I had a five-hour walk to get in,” said another man, pointing to his old smuggling route across a mountain above the fruit trees. “Ten days ago, they put people there.”

Four fighters were killed and two injured recently trying to take supplies across the border, he added.
Another fighter said that the Sunni villages on the Syrian side of the border were now deserted, and that the army had sent reinforcements along the border from irregular militias belonging to the same minority Alawite sect as the regime.
The Lebanese border has lost some of its importance to the rebels since the Turkish border came more or less under their control, and weapons are now reported to be flowing over the Jordanian border, a potential supply line in the fight for Damascus.

Nonetheless, Abdullah insisted there was “no way” the opposition could take central Syria and Damascus without at least some routes being open to Lebanon.
“[The border] will become more important as fighting gets closer to Damascus,” said Emile Hokayem of the International Institute for Strategic Studies. “The regime can still make rational decisions about its defence strategy.”
Abu Berri said rebels were trying to open up areas in Homs province and would be able to attack the border troops from the Syrian side.
“Every two to three days, there is a real battle happening,” said Ahmed, a point underscored by the shelling audible from the Lebanese side of the border.
The rebels said Hizbollah, the Damascus-allied Lebanese Shia group, was sending reinforcements for this fight. The potential for messy cross-border violations and spillover into Lebanon is high, although Lebanese army units patrolling the border have, with a few exceptions, avoided confrontation with the rebels.
For now, after a period of fighting that saw regular cross-border shelling, the regime seems to have established relative quiet on the Lebanese border itself. “They’re not even letting in the air,” said one man.
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Suiting Up
What the United States is doing to prepare for chemical war in Syria.

BY R. JEFFREY SMITH, THE CENTER FOR PUBLIC INTEGRITY | JANUARY 17, 2013

The Obama administration has quietly arranged for thousands of chemical protective suits and related items to be sent to Jordan and Turkey and is pressing the military forces there to take principal responsibility for safeguarding Syrian chemical weapons sites if the country's lethal nerve agents suddenly become vulnerable to theft and misuse, Western and Middle Eastern officials say.

As part of their preparations for such an event, Western governments have started training the Jordanians and Turks to use the chemical gear and detection equipment so they have the capability to protect the Syrian nerve agent depots if needed -- at least for a short time, U.S. and Western officials say.

Washington has decided, moreover, that the best course of action in the aftermath of Assad's fall would be to get the nerve agents out of the country as quickly as possible, and so it has begun discussions not only with Jordan and Turkey, but also with Iraq and Russia in an effort to chart the potential withdrawal of the arsenal and its destruction elsewhere.

Using allied forces from Syria's periphery as the most likely "first-responders" to a weapons of mass destruction emergency is regarded in Washington as a way to avoid putting substantial U.S. troops into the region if the special Syrian military forces now safeguarding the weapons leave their posts. A Syrian withdrawal might otherwise render the weapons vulnerable to capture and use by Hezbollah or other anti-U.S. or anti-Israeli militant groups, U.S. officials fear.

This article is based on conversations about international planning for the disposition of the Syrian stockpile with a half-dozen U.S. and foreign officials who have direct knowledge of the matter but declined to be named due to the political and security sensitivities surrounding their work. They said the Western planning, while not yet complete, is further along than officials have publicly disclosed.

But so far, the Turkish and Jordanian governments have not promised to take up the full role that Washington has sought to give them, U.S. and foreign officials said.

Asked for comment, Jordanian embassy spokeswoman Dana Zureikat Daoud, said the training underway is "not mission-oriented," meaning that Jordan does not have a fixed responsibility. But she added that the government is indeed concerned about the possibility of Syrian chemical armaments falling into extremist hands. "Our contingency plans...are discussed and elaborated with like-minded, concerned countries," she said.

A spokesman at the Turkish embassy declined comment. But James F. Jeffrey, the U.S. ambassador to Turkey from 2008-2010, said that although Ankara is eager for the United States to play a larger role in resolving the Syrian crisis, the Turks are "usually reluctant to be our foot-soldiers." He added: "When Americans come up with a plan to use country x's soldiers, the plan is often self-fulfilling inside the Beltway," but sometimes runs into trouble when it is broached in foreign capitals.

The prospect of lethal nerve agents at any Syrian sites suddenly becoming unprotected is one of many alarming developments that have been war-gamed at the Pentagon over the past year, as the conflict there deepens and President Bashar al-Assad's grip over his deadly arsenal comes into greater question, U.S. officials say.

Worries about the fate of the chemicals -- in a stockpile estimated at 350-400 metric tons -- have become so great that Washington and its allies have recently passed messages to some of the Syrian commanders that oversee their security, offering safety and a continued role under a new government if the commanders act responsibly, two knowledgeable officials said on the condition they not be named.

It is unclear what the results of that effort have been. But similar messages, urging restraint and good behavior in handling the chemicals, have also been passed in recent weeks to rebel forces inside the country, according to a Western official.

One of Washington's concerns has been that Assad might order the chemicals used against his own citizens, a fear that spiked late last year when chemicals at one base were seen being loaded into artillery shells and bombs. Western and Russian officials issued stiff warnings, and those concerns abated somewhat, although Foreign Policy magazine reported on Jan. 15 that some evidence exists that Syria used a generally nonlethal incapacitating gas against rebels in Homs last month.

The principal U.S. concern in a post-Assad period, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta said at a press briefing on Jan. 10, is "how do we secure the CBW [chemical and biological weapons] sites?...And that is a discussion that we are having, not only with the Israelis, but with other countries in the region, to try to look at...what steps need to be taken in order to make sure that these sites are secured."

"We're not working on options that involve [U.S.] boots on the ground," Panetta said.



At one extreme, officials said, Special Forces now in the region might have to intervene on short notice if it appears that weapons at one of the sites are about to fall into the wrong hands or to be employed on a large scale. They would be tasked with swiftly neutralizing both the agent and any hostile forces present and likely stay on the ground only for a few hours.

The Obama administration's preference, however, is to have other nations' forces undertake such an intervention, and so the United States and Britain have been conducting joint planning and training operations with Jordanian and Turkish commandos for more than a year to prepare for their possible emergency insertion into Syria, according to U.S. and foreign officials familiar with the plans.

The protective suits, along with detection equipment and decontamination gear, began arriving in the late fall amid concern that the Syrian government might be considering using the weapons to halt rebel advances. Syria's arsenal -- which was developed for a potential conflict with Israel -- includes mustard gas, which burns and blisters the skin and lungs. More problematically, it also includes sarin and VX, liquids that interfere with the nervous system and produce swift death by paralysis after minute, drop-size exposures, U.S. officials say.

Syria devised its nerve weapons as binary agents, in which two less toxic chemicals are routinely stored in large, separated canisters and then loaded into separate compartments inside a bomb. For example, sarin uses a formulation of alcohol, plus another chemical. The agents combine to pose their most lethal threat only when launched or during flight, making them relatively easy to handle or transport before then -- by the Syrian military or by terrorists and militant groups.

But the separation of the basic components also opens the door to at least a partial elimination of the threat onsite, since the alcohol used in sarin could simply be drained onto the ground and allowed to evaporate.

Jordan and Turkey initially agreed to undertake Western training in dealing with chemical weapons because they might have to deal with panicked refugees and victims if Assad's forces use such arms against the rebels; some risk also exists in the circumstance of clouds of dangerous gas wafting onto their own territory from Syrian cities near their border. Even medical workers would be at grave risk in dealing with those who became contaminated; as a result, they are being trained now by Western powers, according to foreign officials.

"Their primary concern is a spillover of these things into their territory," one U.S. official said. The salience of this worry was demonstrated when a Syrian mortar round crashed into a Turkish field near a refugee camp on Jan. 14. As Daoud, the Jordanian spokeswoman, said, "Naturally, we will do everything that needs to be done to defend our people and our borders."

Partly because of worries about the stockpile's security, Washington and its allies still hope that Assad might be persuaded to leave in exchange for a guarantee of his personal security elsewhere. In such a negotiated transition, Western powers would seek to keep the existing Syrian military units responsible for safeguarding the chemical weapons sites in place, officials said.

"The people in Assad's regime responsible for security at the chemical sites are among the very best soldiers," a U.S. official said. "If one could keep those forces in place...that would be the best and probably the cheapest and most efficient outcome."

But Assad, in a defiant address on Jan. 6, said he had no intention of stepping aside or negotiating with the rebels engaged in a bitter struggle for national control that so far has claimed at least 60,000 lives.

"We're engaged in planning to develop options against alternative futures...[including] collaboration or cooperation, permissiveness, non-permissive, hostile, all of which would have different requirements," Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey said at a Jan. 10 briefing.

"The options are not good in any scenario," said another senior official, adding that Washington is as worried about the chemicals falling into the hands of rebel forces that may seize power, either locally or nationally, as it is about their misuse by terrorists or by rogue Syrian military units and commanders. At least one of the major Syrian rebel groups, Jabhat al-Nusra, has been designated by the United States as a terrorist organization.

Also, U.S. intelligence agencies have warned policymakers that once Assad is gone, the country's turmoil will increase, with rival groups potentially seeking to brandish possession of the chemical weapons as symbols of their power. Officials said that as a result, they have pressed the Syrian National Coalition, a rebel group recognized by Western countries, to appoint a coordinator now for all chemical weapons-related policymaking and negotiations.

Simply blowing up the chemicals inside Syria with bombs or other weapons is not an option, as Panetta made clear in a briefing for reporters during a December visit to Turkey: "The kind of plumes...they create the -- exactly the kind of damage that the use of those weapons will -- will do on their own," he said.

Incinerating the chemicals inside Syria would be logistically challenging and pose high security risks, since Western countries have only a few portable destruction kits for chemical weapons, developed primarily to deal with single, leaking shells, not large stocks.

As a result, U.S. officials said they would likely seek to transport the chemicals out of Syria as quickly as possible once a new government can be formed, preferably under the supervision of the United Nations-affiliated Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, with the new government's formal approval.

"We maintain regular communication with States Parties as well as the United Nations on developments in Syria and continue our efforts to prepare for various scenarios which could potentially involve the OPCW in that situation," said OPCW spokesman Michael Luhan.

Under one scenario now under discussion between Washington and its allies, the chemicals would be moved to secure military bases in Jordan, Turkey, or Iraq, where the United States and others would erect chemical incinerators over a six to twelve month period that could destroy the bulk agent in a year or so after that. Using similar incinerators to destroy a small stockpile of chemical weapons in Albania more than five years ago cost $48 million.

But even this task would be logistically awkward, not to mention politically controversial in those states. Undertaking it would first require further consolidation of the stocks inside Syria and then their transport outside the country in hundreds of truckloads.

Another option, which officials said has tentatively been explored with senior Russian officials, is to truck the chemical agents to the Syrian port of Tartus, where the Russian Navy keeps a small presence, so that it could be placed on a ship for transport to Russia, where multiple chemical weapons destruction plants have been constructed with Western help.

By the accounts of several officials, Russia has expressed some desire to help. And Western officials emphasized that in their view, the country has a special responsibility to do so, because of reports that the head of its chemical weapons program helped Syria obtain key VX components in the early 1990s.

No final policy choice has been made about these options, senior officials said. And bringing a large weapons stockpile into Turkey or Russia -- which are signatories of an international treaty barring the use or possession of chemical arms -- might require a waiver of the treaty's rules against importing even the components of such weapons.

Some consolidation of the Syrian arsenal has already occurred on Assad's orders, and the bulk of it is now at fewer than a dozen sites, according to a U.S. official familiar with intelligence estimates.

But U.S. military planners are unsure precisely how many sites might hold deadly chemicals at the point that a foreign intervention would be necessary or feasible. If Assad disperses the arsenal beforehand to the 40 or so military bases with aircraft or missiles that can drop or launch the weapons, as many as 75,000 foreign troops could be needed to contain the threat (several thousand troops at each base, according to this worst case estimate). A smaller number would be needed if the intervention preceded such a dispersal.

The shipment of protective gear to Syria's periphery from U.S. and British stockpiles was an acknowledgement of the enormity of the problem, several officials said. They described thousands of pieces of chemical-protection gear -- from masks and suits to detectors and decontamination kits -- being pre-positioned in Jordan alone.

Asked for comment, Joint Chiefs of Staff spokesman Scott McIlnay responded that "we have always said that contingency planning is the responsible thing to do, and we are actively consulting with friends, allies, and the opposition. But I am not going to get into the specifics of our contingency plans." Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said he could only say that "we are working with our partners in the region and the broader international community to monitor the situation and discussing contingencies."
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Assad has been falling for more than 2 years. He should be reaching the centre of the earth by now. So when is the subh deen slated for the final "fall", not the everlasting and ongoing continuous "fall" - as decided by Sunni bootlickers?
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@billneelyitv: Some US Senators call 4 weapons & no fly zone 2 aid #Syrian rebels.
McCain says “mr & mr jihadists pouring i'2 Syria-“seen as best fighters”

@billneelyitv: Mc Cain says if no aid is given to FSA & SNC in #Syria,jihadis/JaN will gain mr legitimacy because they R already seen as the best fighters.

@billneelyitv: So,nothing new from McCain & hawk senators,except growing acceptance that Jabhat al Nusra is gaining ground & power. They're desperate.
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