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Theo_Fidel wrote:From the few Americans who even bother to think of India the opinion is simple. A Hindu 'Fundamentalist' government exploded the 'bomb' and hence all such 'fundamentalists' are suspect. The Modi visa ban too was undoubtedly a very junior level decision. The sentiment seems to be India & Pakistan are crazy and any thing we can do to isolate the crazies is good. Yes, India is still considered an unstable and potentially crazy nation. What could change the sentiment would be the BJP type folks building bridges with the strategic community in USA. Question is if BJP even cares to.
Interesting that Theo's views over time have become indistinguishable from those of the typical Mid-West 'Bible-Thumper' Redneck....

Also, I wonder if that's where S. TN is headed - given that Theo often claims to speak for that region.
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ramana wrote:disha, I have met some of these worthies in Silicon Valley. So I do know their work. All think they are carrying the torch for secular elite. Some of them fund raise for all sorts of 'projects'.
Is this a subset of the TiE crowd??
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BJP has no problems with building bridges with American strategic establishment. during previous NDA administration, they were more than willing to negotiate and sit down and do diplomacy with the US. it was a cordial and mutually respectful process. Theo, you really need to think before posting. what else do you want the BJP to do? beg and grovel like Rahul baby who goes to UK and loudly proclaims that "saffron terrorists" are a bigger threat than Islamic Jihadis???

also, clearly you don't oppose the Modi visa decision. your post is peculiarly ambivalent on the real issue while once again going off on a tangent about what "BJP needs to do"? how about what the US needs to do? you know, pesky things like respecting the electoral verdict of Indians which I'm sure self-proclaimed representatives of S.TN care a lot for...
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Arjun, no personal comments / attacks.
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Track hate crimes against Sikhs, Hindus: US Justice dept to FBI
Describing bullying and harassment of Sikh children as a "serious problem", the US Department of Justice has recommended that crimes against Sikhs and Hindus should be added to the religion-based hate crimes tracked by the FBI to help law enforcement officials tackle the problem.

Assistant Attorney General in the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division Tom Perez said there is "strong support" from interfaith groups for adding anti-Sikh, anti-Hindu and anti-Arab to the hate crime categories tracked by FBI's Uniform Crime Report.
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the Justice Department would continue to combat hate crimes committed against Sikhs and Muslims wherever they occur.
However, FBI says "in future" per this link - HAF Submits Formal Comments to FBI on Need for Anti-Hindu Hate Crime Category

Say, why does F.B.I. as the smartest of the US departments need to say "in future" and why does the Justice Department not track anti-Hindu hate crimes in USA in these times when USA is first world country and the only superpower.

What about trends of hate crimes in USA even at this day and age that are influenced by religion? People from first world country and the only superpower USA should get own house in order before calling others crazies.

What would be benefits that are now ignored by not tracking anti-Hindu hate crimes?
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TheoJi,

Please read this NYT report on the latest gun fire exchange between India and TSP. Its dead equal equal, India alleges, TSP denies. If India & US have to have any meaningful relationship, this has to change. And the best opportunity for that change was post 9/11 and thereafter when US itself learnt of TSP perfidy. It was with this in mind, that NDA, immediately offered US help to launch AfPak. The wily TSP and the cold warriors in US establishment thwarted this, and instead co-opted biggest terrorist there is, much to India's shock and dismay. So much so that even Jassu Bhai who was so much pro US is now singing the TSP tune of US causing problems for the region in AfPak. We are back square one

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/07/world ... shmir.html
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I beg to differ on the subject that BJP should cultivate strategic links in USA. IMO, BJP sometimes act like another side of the INC coin. These parties will succumb to the pressures from Corporations/USA. Only the Left has the gumption to stand up (but they do it for all the wrong reasons and agenda).

BJP should mind its own business, be a party of difference - stand out from INC - and develop India and its citizens. Corporations and USA will come knocking on their (and India's) doors. This does not mean I do not recommend projecting a positive image, a better approach is to start at home - in India. It is imperative that it convince its domestic audience - because they are the people who vote - not the American lobby.
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SwamyG wrote:I beg to differ on the subject that BJP should cultivate strategic links in USA. IMO, BJP sometimes act like another side of the INC coin. These parties will succumb to the pressures from Corporations/USA. Only the Left has the gumption to stand up (but they do it for all the wrong reasons and agenda).

BJP should mind its own business, be a party of difference - stand out from INC - and develop India and its citizens. Corporations and USA will come knocking on their (and India's) doors. This does not mean I do not recommend projecting a positive image, a better approach is to start at home - in India. It is imperative that it convince its domestic audience - because they are the people who vote - not the American lobby.
I disagree with that left grouping.
They do as that is the only way to differentiate themselvs from others. If not who will vote for them as people will vote for main 2 parties anyway. :((

left will do the same as congis/bjps do when in power.
All their supporters get enough funds and media space from western sources onlee.
hence the advice also when in power.
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Does anyone know what Chuck Hagel's position is on India? Jihad Watch rates him poorly.
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One can get an idea for a play of his name was used in a BRF scenario during 2006-2007
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Krisna, I kind of agree that is why I said they do it for all the wrong reasons and agenda. Creating, transparently, business friendly environment is one thing, and establishing or wooing links at political party levels is another thing. The latter provides opportunities for the rich, powerful and political class to form a cartel and fool citizens of both countries.
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I've said time and time again that the untold history of the illicit relationship between the CIA and the ISI,Pak and the US,is too machiavellian and diabolic,with mutual lust for eviltude,to ever be broken.It is a marriage made in hell where the words "till death us do part",means exactly that .Only the total failure and collapse of the TSP will see this relationship severed.

Therefore,US strat. experts want to be like a good Muslim (no offence here please) and enter into a contract with a second wife.Uncle Sam wants his wife and concubine too.The first wife,Pak,has been bought off with chests of jewellery and off-shore accounts for the crore commanders.The concubine he has in mind is none other than "Mother India", where a disgraceful shameful regime is willing to put the motherland "on the market"!
This accounts for the peddlar of snake-oil Dr.Singh engaging in a new role as ****, always advocating a softly, softly line with Pak as reward for all its perfidy, the last straw being the visa to Miandad, Dawood's intimate relative! That Miandad has wisely refrained from coming is another matter. Our treasonous babus and their masters have no thought for the blood of innocents spilled over the decades by Pak's perfidy, the attack on parliament, 26/11, Bombay blasts, et al.Their highest priority is to trade with Pak-money to be made by chosen entities,and please Uncle Sam ,who can then roger both willing countries.

Have you no shame and self-respect,Dr.Singh and Mrs.Maino-Gandhi?
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India should open up supposedly sensitive sectors: US Think Tank
India should fully open "even supposedly sensitive" sectors such as finance, defence, atomic energy and FDI, a leading US think-tank said today.

It also stressed that Washington and New Delhi cannot afford to fail as it was important to maintain "favourable" balance of power in Asia.

Observing that the evolving India-US strategic partnership holds great potential for both countries, the prestigious Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, stressed that both sides must now take steps to make the partnership fruitful.

In a detailed report, it came out with a set of recommendations for both the Manmohan Singh Government and the Obama Administration, which is now preparing for its second term.

Recommendations for India include expanding the basis for collaboration, undertaking planned 2nd-generation economic reforms, encouraging foreign direct investment, improving defence cooperation with key states and using its influence with Iran to abandon its nuclear weapons program.

"There is no conceivable reason today why the Indian state should not fully open even supposedly sensitive sectors such as finance, defence, and atomic energy to FDI," it said.

The report "Opportunities unbound: Sustaining the transformation in US-Indian relations" recommends US to explore a free-trade agreement with India, build up India's defence capabilities.

It noted that no American administration in recent years has ever sought to inveigle India into either a containment strategy or a military alliance aimed at China.

"The US strategy toward India is not aimed at getting New Delhi to do anything against Beijing other than what it would do anyway for its own reasons.

"Helping India thrive as a strong, democratic, (even if perpetually) independent state is what the transformation of US-Indian relations is actually all about," the report said. {Isn't India already a strong, independent & democratic country ? While the US wants specific actions, its contribution is vague and unnecessary for India. We know that the US gives vague promises like NSSP et al and later threaten India not to do certain things lest the US might not be able to keep those promises. What will the US bring to the table if India opens up sensitive sectors ? How can India be assured of the reliability of the notorious fickle-minded US Administration ? India must not be taken in by the US Administration. India must not fall to the US temptation of speaking up for India for whatever is due to her otherwise. If things are delayed, let them be; we will get them eventually without the US help.}

"Freed from the encumbrances of their enervating nuclear disagreement, the United States and India now have the opportunity to nurture their deep-rooted shared interests that make a genuine strategic partnership possible," Ashley Tellis, eminent American foreign policy expert and author of the report said.

"Both sides have only just scratched the surface of their potential cooperation. But with the removal of the most important impediment facing their bilateral relationship during the last thirty years--India's exclusion from the global nonproliferation regime--both governments need to get down to business if they are to achieve the meaningful strategic partnership that eluded them throughout the Cold War," he wrote.

"At a time when the United States and India face the common challenge of maintaining a favourable balance of power in Asia, they cannot afford to fail," he concluded.

WASHINGTON: The report further said: "Sustain leadership attention. Even if New Delhi does not reciprocate every US initiative and retains its traditionally independent foreign policy, the United States should devote senior leadership attention and create effective bureaucratic arrangements to expand the relationship with India." {So, India must be satisfied with the visits of US Secretary of State or Homeland Security et al ?}

"Seek a deeper partnership on Afghanistan. Washington should encourage the Indian government to increase its political and material contributions to the effort in Afghanistan," {so that all will go waste when the US gives Afghanistan on a platter to the Taliban and TSP ?} the report's recommendations for US said.

"The evolving US-Indian strategic partnership holds great potential for both countries. India's economic growth and its ties to the United States can assist its global rise, which contributes to keeping the peace in Asia, provided New Delhi and Washington sustain concerted cooperation. {Peace in Asia and all over the world will be served better when the US stops arming and fundinng the terrorist state of Pakistan}

"And India's emerging markets promise to be the key instrument for enlarging India's power while remaining a rich opportunity for US businesses,"

"The 2008 US-India Civil Nuclear Agreement did away with the biggest obstacle in the relationship--India's murky status in the global nonproliferation regime. Both sides must now take steps to make the partnership fruitful," he said.
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US asks India & TSP to end exchange of fire across the LoC
Apart from the US behaviour of treating the aggressor and the agrieved as equal, this appears to be the first time that the US has directly intervened in matters of such minor nature.
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And keep in mind former US govt official Bader's speech in Beijing that pivot in Asia was to check India!!!
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And the US stooge C Raja Mohan weighs in in IE ...

Washington is discussing whether India is ready for a serious relationship
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But there is no escaping the international perception that Delhi has lost the political will to pursue strategic partnerships with any of its friendly interlocutors.

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This is a sweeping statement
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ramana wrote:And keep in mind former US govt official Bader's speech in Beijing that pivot in Asia was to check India!!!
For smaller countries they bring the fear of the larger countries in the region and Uncle will provide security and support for these smaller countries. This has been going on for the last 40 years
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India's next HUGE FP problem - watch the guy squirm at the talk of cutting aid to Pak [7:30]

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John Kerry: Pakistan hasn’t gotten enough credit for the killing of bin Laden

http://m.washingtonexaminer.com/john-ke ... QIFbh0Tg45
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Pakistan hasn’t gotten enough credit for the nurturing and supporting bin Laden and AlQ
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I think we are looking at this John Kerry saga upside down. What if BO to take JK's help to get Pakis back into his Foreign Policy?
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After the drone attacks, UBL final episode, ign oring Pakistan govt and people and teasing the Pak for 4 years now they want to engage in diplomatic welcome mat to 'reformed' pakistan
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What happens if and when India makes a statement, on the lines of making fun of American lip lock with TSP now and funding it? India should open the can of worms for everyone to see and poke holes in American dualistic policy of playing both sides. We should call Americans terrorist supporters and financiers. I want to see how US reacts...we should be thorns in their side, if that makes us enemies of US, so be it. Let us grow up for a bit, and take charge of our own future than lap up what is thrown to us.

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The rarest of them We are both.
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A blast from the Past - NYT report on Sagarika in 1998
Russia Is Helping India Extend Range of Missile, U.S. Aides Say

By STEVEN LEE MYERS
WASHINGTON, April 26— Russia is helping India to build a sea-launched ballistic missile that can carry a nuclear warhead and strike deep into Pakistan, say senior Clinton Administration officials, who fear the program will inflame simmering tensions in South Asia.

The assistance has continued for at least three years, the officials said, despite assurances from Russia that its scientists are not contributing restricted technology to India's missile programs.

Vice President Al Gore and other senior Administration officials have appealed to Russian officials to halt the support, with little success. India, which has long had military ties to Russia, has been trying for years to develop more powerful missiles.

Although not tested, the sea-launched missile, the Sagarika, whose name means oceanic in Hindi, is said to have a range of nearly 200 miles and is meant to be launched from submerged submarines.

That would be a technological breakthrough for India in its arms race with Pakistan. American intelligence officials regard the simmering rivalry one of the most dangerous flash points for conventional or even nuclear war. The two countries have fought three wars since independence from Britain in 1947.

India has had an extensive nuclear weapons program since it first tested a nuclear device in 1974.

This month Pakistan tested a medium-range missile that can carry a nuclear weapon that could strike virtually anywhere in India, raising fears of a renewed arms race.

Russia's sale of missiles and missile technology has been one of the more nettlesome obstacles to its improved relations with the United States since the collapse of the Soviet Union.

The New York Times reported on Saturday that Russia did nothing to stop a 22-ton shipment of the type of stainless steel used in making missiles on the way to Iran. The shipment was intercepted by customs officials in Azerbaijan just shy of Iranian territory.

Although the Administration's concerns have focused on Iran over the last year, the help to India offers another instance of Russia's unwillingness or inability to control exports of missile technology and suggests a wider pattern of proliferation, the officials and arms experts said.

''Clearly this cooperation with India raises questions,'' said a senior Administration official who, as with the others, insisted on anonymity because of political sensitivities and to protect American intelligence sources.

The precise nature of Russia's aid is not clear, the officials said. The Administration first approached Russia with its concerns as early as the spring of 1995. At that time, the officials said, Russia acknowledged that scientists from quasipublic research institutes that grew out of the Soviet military-industrial complex were providing technological help for the Sagarika missile.

But the Russians insisted that the assistance was limited and involved only the technology needed to launch a missile from beneath the sea's surface, the officials said.

''We had rather extensive discussions, and the Russians told us that there was some cooperation between Russian entities and the Indians, but that the cooperation was very circumscribed,'' a senior Administration official said.

The Administration received ''certain commitments'' that the Russian role did not involve the missile design and that it ''would continue to be circumscribed,'' the senior Administration official said.

Since then, however, intelligence reports have continued to raise questions about Russia's involvement, the official and others said. Another official who tracked the reports said the help had included ''significant engineering services,'' as well as parts and equipment necessary to build and launch the missile.

The assistance appears to violate the spirit, if not the letter, of the 1993 agreement between Russia and the United States to stop helping India or any other country develop ballistic-missile technology. At that time, Russia canceled a Soviet-era sale of equipment and technology to India that could have been used to build a ballistic missile, and it agreed to adhere to the Missile Technology Control Regime, an agreement among 29 major nations to restrict the spread of missiles.

In exchange, the Clinton Administration agreed to lift sanctions that the Bush Administration had imposed on the Russian and Indian space-research programs, clearing the way for American and Russian cooperation on space programs.

In the State Department, the Pentagon and the Central Intelligence Agency, officials are divided about whether Russia's assistance violates the missile regime, which could prompt sanctions against both Russia and India.

Some officials have concluded that the help with the Sagarika is a clear violation. Others say it slips under the limits of the agreement.

The intelligence reports, the officials said, have also left uncertainties, with some suggesting that the Sagarika is a less sophisticated cruise missile and not a ballistic missile, although either could fall under the regime's restrictions.

A senior Defense Department official said even if Russian help did not necessarily violate the regime, the cooperation has still raised concerns that India is close to mastering technology that would significantly improve its arsenal of missiles, which are now relatively primitive. After that, India could quickly build longer-range missiles.

''The key sensitivity is that the Indians will learn how to launch something from under water -- get it above the water and ignite an engine,'' the official said. ''And then they'll go to the next step after that on their own, something with a longer range.'' :lol:

Henry D. Sokolski, the executive director of the Nonproliferation Policy Education Center who was a Pentagon official under President George Bush, said any assistance from Russia to the Sagarika was troubling, even if it did not explicitly violate the agreement's terms.

''Whether it comes up to the edge or over the edge, it's clearly objectionable,'' said Mr. Sokolski, who has criticized the Clinton Administration for not strictly policing proliferation. ''Anything that encourages the Indians to play around with strategic technology is bad business.''

A spokesman at the Russian Embassy in Washington, Mikhail A. Shurgalin, declined to discuss the missile, except to say, ''We fully comply with our commitments under this regime.''

Officials at the Indian Embassy did not respond to telephone inquiries.

India has had a variety of missiles and missile programs, including one to develop a sea-launched ballistic missile. But it has always maintained that the programs are indigenous, and it has not acknowledged the Russian help to the Sagarika.

The Sagarika is being developed in conjunction with fitful efforts by India over the last decade to build a nuclear-powered ballistic submarine, the officials and experts said. A submarine-launched missile would allow India to extend its missile range greatly, theoretically allowing it to strike from around the globe. A submarine-launched missile, because of its mobility and underwater stealth, would also be less vulnerable to attack than land-based missiles.

India's new nationalist Government, led by Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee, announced in March that it would review the country's nuclear policy and consider introducing nuclear weapons to its arsenal. Since then, the new Government has moderated its remarks.
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venug wrote:What happens if and when India makes a statement, on the lines of making fun of American lip lock with TSP now and funding it? India should open the can of worms for everyone to see and poke holes in American dualistic policy of playing both sides. We should call Americans terrorist supporters and financiers. I want to see how US reacts...we should be thorns in their side, if that makes us enemies of US, so be it. Let us grow up for a bit, and take charge of our own future than lap up what is thrown to us.

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Is this made a choice by educated establishment? Who has given anyone any rights to hide what goes against national interests?
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The Myth of Japan's faliure
Time and again, Americans are told to look to Japan as a warning of what the country might become if the right path is not followed, although there is intense disagreement about what that path might be. Here, for instance, is how the CNN analyst David Gergen has described Japan: “It’s now a very demoralized country and it has really been set back.”

But that presentation of Japan is a myth. By many measures, the Japanese economy has done very well during the so-called lost decades, which started with a stock market crash in January 1990. By some of the most important measures, it has done a lot better than the United States.
Part of what is going on here is Western psychology. Anyone who has followed the story long-term cannot help but notice that many Westerners actively seek to belittle Japan. Thus every policy success is automatically discounted. It is a mind-set that is much in evidence even among Tokyo-based Western diplomats and scholars.
This is also done on India. Acharya and many others say this frequently.
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vishvak wrote:Who has given anyone any rights to hide what goes against national interests?
It is the 'national interests' that is not well defined.
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A long time ago,in the aftermath of P-2,a well-known author on strategic affairs told me that the US had warned India to keep the range of its missiles low,otherwise.....Uncle Sam would use his "big stick".It is well over a decade since that warning was given.For many years,our ICBM programme and strategic deterrent was held hostage by the US,who deliberately stunted our indigenous progress through various devious means,aided by the quislings in the country.

The rude shock to a somnolent govt. was the sudden Chinese aggro,where the dragon claimed Ar.Pr. as its own.Pak's continuing perfidy,aided by the nelsonian eye of the US,only added to the anxiety.A steady and secretive programme is now coming to fruition,to see that our strategic deterrent has not just the bang but also the range to reach all of China and from our SSBNs in the future,at ranges where they will be far out of range of PLAN subs.If our subs and their missiles can also hit the US coastline from their underwater hideouts,its a bonus,in case a future cretinous warmonger of a US pres. has India in his crosshairs in the future.If the story is true that Russia has indeed been helping us not just with nuclear sub tech,but also with the delivery systems,wonderful! The saying "old friends are true friends" rings true here.After all,what's Uncle Sam's grouse? he doesn't want us to possess US AESA radar tech and for any weapon systems sold to us,he wants an intrusive inspection regime,while Sen,Kerry-the candidate for For. Sec., wants to create a "strong" Pak,the epi-centre of global terrorism and our mortal enemy!
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The pursuance of a strong friendship with India by the US to contain China would also entail pursuance of a strong US friendship with TSP (condoning its terrorist activities against India, supplying it with offensive weapons that can be used only against India etc). The need to balance India through the TSP counterweight never really disappeared though words to that effect were often said by US leaders after 9/11. Under various guises, the US has continued the same policy as before vis-a-vis India & TSP.
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It should not be the US's to dictate but for India to direct matters that effect it. I doubt if any country in the world has a more legitimate need to be forceful but is as effete in response.
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I see they are up to no good

Why John Kerry Should Treat Climate Change as a National Security Issue
For centuries, the glaciers of the Western Himalayas have fed the Indus River, which flows down the mountains through India and into Pakistan, where it runs the length of the country to the Arabian Sea. In both countries, the river is a crucial source of water for livestock, irrigation, drinking—essential to life and livelihood for millions of people.But as climate change causes global temperatures to rise, the glaciers that feed the Indus are receding. A series of scientific reports indicates that in the coming decades, the river’s water levels could drop by as much as 40 percent. Already, some Indian policymakersare raising the idea of damming that water off for their own country. That could save the lives of millions of Indians, while threatening millions of Pakistanis. Pakistan lacks the economic, political, or conventional military leverage to retaliate against India if that happens; it matches its neighbor only in nuclear weapons.National security agencies around the world, including the Pentagon and the CIA, are watching the situation closely, nervous that climate change could one day ignite a nuclear face-off between these two volatile neighbors.That’s exactly the type of event John Kerry, who is set to be sworn in shortly might want to update thisas secretary of State, was referring to during his Senate confirmation hearing, when he called climate change a “life-threatening issue” of national security. Kerry, a Vietnam veteran, has long been a so-called climate hawk, framing his drive to stop global warming in terms of curbing a force that inflames conflicts around the world to the detriment of U.S. safety.In an impassioned Senate floor speech in August, Kerry compared the potential peril from climate change to the threat of war. “I believe that the situation we face [with climate change] is as dangerous as any of the sort of real crises that we talk about” in Iran, Syria, and other trouble spots, he said.He has taken plenty of heat for that view from Republicans, many of whom question the science of human-caused climate change, scoff at any link to national security, and say that solving global warming is the wrong priority for the nation’s chief diplomat. But defense and intelligence officials say the link between climate change and national security is clear, dangerous, and urgent—and a raft of national security experts say it’s high time the nation’s top foreign policy official treated it as such.In its 2010 Quadrennial Defense Review, the Pentagon identified climate change as a major “threat multiplier.” While climate change itself doesn’t cause wars, it can, like a spark on dry tinder, exacerbate already volatile circumstances.

( Paki can move to Arabia, the land of Multiple fathers orr simply Kerry can import them in his home state)
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Rajiv Malhotra exposes hypocrisy of rice Christian Jindal.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/46979745/#50677128
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Rajiv Malhotra is good, very good. No loud talking like Prof. Sumit Ganguly. I hope he diversifies into international politics and strategy and goes on PBS head-to-head with some of the Pakistani apologists - both US and Pakistani.
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Sumit Ganguly is a squeaky little Uncle Tom. At best he is nuisance value to some Paki aplogists, but by and large he sticks to his role an establishment boy and enjoys professorship at various institutions. He once supported one "South Asia" expert dork who threatned to take an Indian American to Home land security when the latter dared to point out that US military support to TSP, its giving a respectable podium to scum like MushRat, and equal equal in the face of brazen TSP terror against India etc, is tantamount to US sponsoring terror against India. This little twit Sumi Ganguly didn't have the guts to point out that US policy is indeed such a fraud, and instead sucked up to this gora "South Asian" expert and Paki apologist by endorsing his threat that its a good idea to report such Indian Americans to Homeland security. So, while Rajiv Malohtra will surely be suave in taking on Paki aplogists, I am not sure he can survive too long by challenging US institutional bias so brazenly.

If you US notice useless US foreign policy talk nowadays, "we live in dangerous times when US leadership is paramount", and its back to US's bad guys, Iran, NK, Hamas, Al Queda, and of course managing tensions between India and Paaaaakistaaaaan.
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CRamS ji

I get what you are saying re. Prof. Sumit Ganguly. Re. the Musharraf episode, are you talking about his speech at Harvard where there was one young mid-career scholar who tried to ask questions and was shouted down?
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matrimcJi,

No, it was a private e-mail chain I used to be part of a few years back that involved lots of "South Asia" experts.

But before private citizines can take up the cudgels, I would like to see this line of though first made mainstream in India. If you notice, not even natioalists, however few there are in Indian media, shy away from poiting to US military aid to TSP. Instead, they prefer to talk "US India strategic relations" as though that is disjoint from US's indirect sponsorship of terror against India through its support of TSP.
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CRS, As homework I want you to read Arthasastra and come back with your wisdom updated. Read the parts about what course of action the lesser vijesu must take when he faces a bigger power.
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CRamS wrote:Sumit Ganguly ... He once supported one "South Asia" expert dork who threatned to take an Indian American to Home land security...
Yeh remember that. Was quite dismayed. Prof. S. Ganguly came down several notches in my eyes. By the way, he is a student of Prof. Stephen P. Cohen, if you don't know already which might explain his South Asia stance.
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