Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis

[RamaY]

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The real reason for "viswaroopam" crisis is the way the viswaroopam title is printed (like Arabic).

[Jarita]

Idea of comedy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hPvJTdkwaU

[uddu]

With that edict, when a baby girl is born, the parents will be running around shouting where is the veil where is the veil cover her up fast....what a pathetic situation we the world is moving into.

[uddu]

Poor girl. May her soul rest in peace.
This must be an eyeopener for the believers to change their ideology. The faster the better. The more you stay in it, the worse it gets.

[krisna]

[rajsunder]

I hated him when i read that it was his force that made the producers introduce a Hindu character in the terrorists list in south Indian remake of "A Wednesday".

Do you have a link for this?

was on greatandhra.com site, but unable to find the news item now, as they post the telugu contents as images rather than as text.

[member_19686]

was on greatandhra.com site, but unable to find the news item now, as they post the telugu contents as images rather than as text.

Thanks, found this:

"The film is on par with the original Neeraj Pandey’s A Wednesday, with minor modifications to make it politically correct by including a Hindu mercenary, a gun runner for whom it is just about money."

"Kamal Hassan and his team have also pointed to the Coimbatore bomb blast and Meenambakkam airport blast to give the film a local flavour. And to add his own secularist view point, one of the Muslim characters justifies his action and says it is all because of Modi and communal politics which led to the Best Bakery case. The film is well intended and is told in an emphatic manner very bravely."

http://www.sify.com/movies/tamil/review ... d=14910968

[ramana]

The girl looks Indian. Maybe the mother was from India? I would venture she could be from Hyderabad.

[Prem]

To curb rape, Muslim group calls for end to co-ed schools in India
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-Sou ... s-in-India

Soon after the Delhi rape, a government committee sought suggestions from different quarters on how to improve safety for women in India. The committee received 11 lists of suggestions, including one from Jamaat-e-Islami Hind, one of the country's largest Muslim organizations. Among a set of suggestions ranging from a ban on sex outside marriage to public execution of convicted rapists, JIH highlighted that co-education leads to many social evils.“Co-education should be abolished and proper education facilities meant exclusively for women should be made available at all level of education,” the JIH statement, issued by Secretary-General of JIH Nusrat Ali, said.But many Muslim educators, female students, and working women across the country have opposed this suggestion, charging that it would be detrimental to the development of the Muslim community in India. The public resistance highlights the growing appetite among Muslim parents to improve their minority community's trailing status through education, including that of girls.
Indian Muslims have lagged behind in education, which has set back the community's development, says Samsul Alam, the vice chancellor of Calcutta's Aliah University.Islamic scholar and JIH spokesman Abdul Hameed Nomani says Islam favors education for all men and women, but asks its followers to avoid mixing with anyone other than close male relatives.
“In Islam pardah [veil] is very important, but co-education promotes bepardaghi [going without veil], which is against the Shariat. It is giving rise to a number of evils, therefore we are against co-education,” Mr. Nomani says.

[Agnimitra]

Muslim leader: Pork DNA find could hit Irish beef sales

A leader of Ireland's Muslims has warned that the discovery of pork DNA in halal products could damage the reputation of Irish meat.

Tyrone food company McColgan's and distributors 3663 withdrew products after pork traces were found in pies meant for English and Irish jails.

Dr Ali Saleem said on RTE's Morning Ireland that for a Muslim, eating pork was "equivalent to taking drugs".

He said Irish beef had a "wonderful reputation among Muslims in Britain and Ireland" but it would now have to be tested by the Muslim community's own agencies.

The tests were carried out following the discovery of horse meat in beefburgers produced in County Monaghan.

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The Food Safety Authority of Ireland (FSAI) said the meat had come from two processing plants in the Irish Republic - Liffey Meats and Silvercrest Foods - and the Dalepak Hambleton plant in Yorkshire.

[Agnimitra]

The Muslim Future of Europe

According to this weekend’s New York Times, France now has about six million Muslims out of a total population of 65 million. The overwhelming majority of them are immigrants, or the children of immigrants, but about 100,000 French Muslims are converts. Muslim organizations put the number as high as 200,000. In France (as here in the United States) the country’s prison system has become fertile ground for Muslims. The Times article estimates about a third of France’s prison population is made up of practicing Muslims. Though many of the converts are former Roman Catholics, they say they are not reacting to Catholicism or Christianity so much as to secularism. Hassen Chalghoumi, an imam in a Paris suburb, said, France’s official secularism “breeds spiritual emptiness.” He added, “Secularism has become antireligious. Therefore, it has created an opposite phenomenon. It has allowed people to discover Islam.”

[nachiket]

Facing fatwa, Kashmir's all-girl rock band quits

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However, the government-backed grand mufti on Sunday issued a fatwa against music and dancing and extended a religious patronage to otherwise fringe elements of the unknown on-line abusers.

The CM, who had earlier promised police action against those who issued threats, removed the message from his thread just minutes after posting it, apparently owning the grand mufti and retracting his statement. {Seems to have learned downhill skiing from practitioners across the LoC}

Now, socio-religious group Jamaat-e-Islami too has joined the mufti's chorus against the girls. "The shariat strictly prohibits immodest activity, in particular obscene dancing of women in the presence of men," said Jamaat spokesman Zahid Ali.

[anupmisra]

Reminds me of the fable of the camel and the arab. The camel is slowly taking over the arab's tent. What a shame. The Indian government is toothless and the Indian public (at large) is voiceless.

[ramana]

Why does the guy care about what fare is supplied at English jails? Unless he is aware most of the inmates are his own gangs!

[harbans]

A Saudi cleric has issued a fatwa calling for female babies to wear burqas, a move that has sparked outrage across social networking sites.

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According to Daoud, dressing infants and children in the traditional Muslim veils would reduce the sexual molestation of minors, though the cleric did not cite any evidence for his view.

On Twitter, where the story gained media traction, the response to the idea of covering up baby girls has been almost universally negative, the report said.

http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report_sa ... ge_1796453

Remember the outrage is not amongst the barbarians, but others. Outrage amongst the Muslims will be reserved for cartoons, Rushdie and Taslima.

[nawabs]

Germany Will Become Islamic State, Says Chancellor Merkel

http://europenews.dk/en/node/35714

Chancellor Angela Merkel said that Germans have failed to grasp how Muslim immigration has transformed their country and will have to come to terms with more mosques than churches throughout the countryside, according to the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung daily.

"Our country is going to carry on changing, and integration is also a task for the society taking up the task of dealing with immigrants,” Ms. Merkel told the daily newspaper. "For years we've been deceiving ourselves about this. Mosques, for example, are going to be a more prominent part of our cities than they were before.”

Germany, with a population of 4-5 million Muslims, has been divided in recent weeks by a debate over remarks by the Bundesbank's Thilo Sarrazin, who argued Turkish and Arab immigrants were failing to integrate and were swamping Germany with a higher birth rate.

The Chancellor’s remarks represent the first official acknowledgement that Germany, like other European countries, is destined to become a stronghold of Islam. She has admitted that the country will soon become a stronghold.

In France, 30% of children age 20 years and below are Muslims. The ratio in Paris and Marseille has soared to 45%. In southern France, there are more mosques than churches.

The situation within the United Kingdom is not much different. In the last 30 years, the Muslim population there has climbed from 82,000 to 2.5 million. Presently, there are over 1000 mosques throughout Great Britain - - many of which were converted from churches.

In Belgium, 50% of the newborns are Muslims and reportedly its Islamic population hovers around 25%. A similar statistic holds true for The Netherlands.

It’s the same story in Russia where one in five inhabitants is a Muslim.

Muammar Gaddafi recently stated that "There are signs that Allah will grant victory to Islam in Europe without sword, without gun, without conquest. We don’t need terrorists; we don’t need homicide bombers. The 50 plus million Muslims (in Europe) will turn it into the Muslim Continent within a few decades.”

The numbers support him.

[devesh]

^^^
might give more impetus to the Eurolanders to break from Anglo-Saxon Islamic affinity.

[nawabs]

Islam takes another step to German recognition

http://www.dw.de/islam-takes-another-st ... a-16556956

Bremen is the third German state to recognize Islamic organizations as official religious bodies. Holidays, funerals and pastoral care will be regulated by state contracts. Other states will likely follow suit.

For Erol Pürlü, spokesman for the German Muslim coordination council, the signing of the contract with the city-state of Bremen marked a "day of joy". Three Muslim associations were officially recognized as religious bodies. "That sends a clear signal that Islam belongs to Germany," said Pürlü.

Bremen is the third German state to confer this status on Islamic organizations. Hamburg made a similar agreement last November, while Hesse officially recognized two Islamic organizations and allowed them to offer their own religious classes in schools in December.

The relationship between German states and Muslim associations had been stalled for decades until the breakthrough came in 2010. Large organizations like the Turkish-Islamic Union for Religious Affairs (DITIB) and the Association of Islamic Cultural Centers (VIKZ) had been campaigning to be recognized as religious bodies for a long time.

Among other privileges, the status gave communities the right to offer their own religion classes in schools. But for a long time the state governments resisted all applications, on the grounds that the associations did not fulfill all the legal and structural preconditions. In order to still offer Islamic lessons and create Islamic theological professorships at universities, "advisory councils" were created, on which sit representatives of the state governments. These committees take the place of a recognized religious organization and approve teaching appointments.

Islamic holidays recognized

Now Hamburg, Bremen and Hesse have all gone one step further, though in different ways. In the two city-states, three different Islamic celebrations are now recognized religious holidays. That means school children and employees can take the day off if they want. Officially recognized religious bodies also have the right to minister to Muslims in prisons, hospitals and other public institutions. Also, Muslims are allowed - within certain legal constraints - to build Mosques and bury their dead by their own religious rites - in other words, without a coffin.

Essentially, the state contracts merely bring together and summarize a number of regulations that have been in practise for many years. Little will change in the everyday lives of the approximately 130,000 Muslims in Hamburg and the 40,000 in Bremen. And yet for Pürlü, the contracts are more than just a symbol. The new holidays regulation, for instance, has given the Muslims a whole new freedom, he explains. "It is no longer decided at the discretion of the authorities or the schools or the employers," he said. "Muslims now have a legal right to a holiday."

The main aim: religion classes

The religion classes are particularly important for the Muslim associations, but the contracts made out in Hamburg and Bremen do not bring many particular advantages in this regard. In Bremen, religion is not an obligatory class in schools, while in Hamburg religion classes are general and address different faiths. For that reason, Muslims are putting their hopes in developments in Hesse, where more than 10 percent of Germany's Muslims live. In that state, the regional DITIB and one other organization are now authorized to introduce one religious class orientated to their faith.

According to Pürlü, Muslims are hoping that the Hesse contract will offer a springboard to North Rhine-Westphalia, where some 1.3 million Muslims live. There is already an Islam-oriented religious class there, which began in 2012, but it is still under the remit of an advisory committee. But DITIB and VIKZ and other Islamic organizations see this as just a temporary solution, says Pürlü. They want the NRW state government to recognize them as official religious bodies and then introduce religious classes without state intervention.

"If Bremen and Hamburg say the DITIB is a religious body, then it will certainly be more difficult for the NRW government to say it isn't one," said legal expert Heinrich de Wall.

More state subsidy

The new regulations in the three states do not give the Muslim organizations the same status as the Christian churches. Muslim bodies remain excluded from privileges like church taxes or civil service duties. Nevertheless, DITIB spokesman Bekir Alboga is hoping the new contracts will give the Muslim associations access to more public money to support their work, which is mainly done on a voluntary basis. Certain integration and further education services, as well as the training of inter-religious dialogue commissioners are already supported with public money.

"We really do good work," said Alboga. "But it has to be guaranteed and supported, not just through membership fees, which aren't enough to expand this work and make it more multi-faceted."

On the other hand, Muslim organizations cannot profit from state subsidies for kindergartens and social services, because they don't work in those areas. "Of course, equal treatment for the Islamic bodies would only come into question if the Muslims began operating more charitable and deaconal organizations, like the church-affiliated bodies Diakonie and Caritas," said de Wall.

More German states are expected to follow the example of Bremen, Hamburg, and Hesse and recognize individual religious organizations. Alboga believes that similar contracts are likely in Rhineland-Palatinate, Saarland, Baden-Württemberg, and Lower Saxony. Pürlü said that some negotiations are already under way, though he declined to say in which states.

[Agnimitra]

Danish critic of Islam attacked by gunman

A gunman has tried to shoot a Danish writer and prominent critic of Islam, but the writer managed to fend off his assailant and was not injured in the attack.

Police said Lars Hedegaard, who heads two groups that claim press freedom is under threat from Islam, was the target of the shooting. In a brief statement, they said a roughly 25-year-old gunman rang the doorbell at the writer's Copenhagen home and when he opened the door, the gunman fired a shot aimed at his head, but missed.

"After a scuffle the attacker fled {Hedegaard punched him in the face after the bullet whizzed past his right ear, which caused the assassin to lose the gun}. We do not know whether the police have apprehended him," the Danish Free Press Society said.

NPR's version of the same story:

In 2011, he was convicted of hate speech and fined 5,000 kroner ($1,000) for making a series of insulting and degrading statements about Muslims.

The motive of Tuesday's attack was not immediately clear.

[ramana]

Most likely a Paki assilant.

[jamwal]

Only 11 in 100 Muslims take up higher education

Eleven of 100 Muslims in India take up higher education – the lowest as regards religion-based enrolment in higher education. In comparison, 20% Hindus and 31% Christians pursue higher education, states a draft report compiled by the union ministry of human resource and development.

The figure for other religions is above the national average pegged at 18.8% of the country’s total population. The draft report, which is based on the National Sample Survey (2009-10) data, attributes the low percentage among Muslims to “various socio-economic reasons”.

Higher education includes technical, vocational and professional courses at secondary and post-secondary levels.

The situation is worse in rural India – only 6.7% Muslims take up higher education.

[Prem]

PEOPLE OF TIMBUKTU SAVE MANUSCRIPTS FROM INVADERS
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/people-t ... s-invaders

TIMBUKTU, Mali (AP) — For eight days after the Islamists set fire to one of the world's most precious collections of ancient manuscripts, the alarm inside the building blared. It was an eerie, repetitive beeping, a cry from the innards of the injured library that echoed around the world.The Pakistan and al-Qaida-linked extremists who ransacked the institute wanted to deal a final blow to Mali, whose northern half they had held for 10 months before retreating in the face of a French-led military advance. They also wanted to deal a blow to the world, especially France, whose capital houses the headquarters of UNESCO, the organization which recognized and elevated Timbuktu's monuments to its list of World Heritage sites.These manuscripts are our identity," said Abdoulaye Cisse, the library's acting director. "It's through these manuscripts that we have been able to reconstruct our own history, the history of Africa . People think that our history is only oral, not written. What proves that we had a written history are these documentsThe Islamists came in, as they did in Afghanistan, with their own, severe interpretation of Islam, intent on rooting out what they saw as the veneration of idols instead of the pure worship of Allah. During their 10-month-rule, they eviscerated much of the identity of this storied city, starting with the mausoleums of their saints, which were reduced to rubble.."
The turbaned fighters made women hide their faces and blotted out their images on billboards. They closed hair salons, banned makeup and forbade the music for which Mali is known.Their final act before leaving was to go through the exhibition room in the institute, as well as the whitewashed laboratory used to restore the age-old parchments. They grabbed the books they found and burned them.However, they didn't bother searching the old building, where an elderly man named Abba Alhadi has spent 40 of his 72 years on earth taking care of rare manuscripts. The illiterate old man, who walks with a cane and looks like a character from the Bible, was the perfect foil for the Islamists. They wrongly assumed that the city's European-educated elite would be the ones trying to save the manuscripts, he said.So last August, Alhadi began stuffing the thousands of books into empty rice and millet sacks.

[Prem]

First Muslim college opens in the US

[ramana]

I was shopping in a desi store when I noticed a young girl in a nice green colored uniform. I asked the mother which school she goes to? The mom was reluctant to tell me. I noted the school badge on the uniform and checked. The mother and a group of Indian Muslims had used the Charter school provisons of the California to create a modern madarassa funded by State of Ca funds!!!! Only Muslims get admitted and in addition to the regular school cirriculum they teach Islam and its many themes as part of the instruction. I dont know if it still in existence or not.
Guess the graduates of such schools need colleges.

[Agnimitra]

Zaytuna has been in operation for quite some years now, Sheikh Hamza Yousef's pet project. I guess they received accreditation only recently, hence the news.

Islamic charter schools in the US are relatively common if there is a critical mass in the area. Even more interesting, Islamic educational trusts open regular charter schools focused on deprived neighborhoods, and use it as a means of preaching and conversion. Although the in-school activities remain secular, teachers (who function as role models) take time out in class to pray. They also take different students under their wing, coach them during off hours, etc., which is painstaking work considering that many of these children have dysfunctional homes. Some such chartered schools run by Islamic foundations have distinguished themselves in terms of science/math academic excellence in a couple of states, including Arizona and Ohio. Others are shabbily run.

[Agnimitra]

Mali: Woman punished for forbidden love By RUKMINI CALLIMACHI

The love story in this fabled desert outpost began over the phone, when he dialled the wrong number. It nearly ended with the couple's death at the hands of Islamic extremists who considered their romance “haram” -forbidden.

Tunisia: Puritans on the attack

BAD blood between Islamists and more secular-leaning Tunisians was stirred dangerously on February 6th when a prominent left-winger, Chokri Belaid, who had spoken out against Nahda, the Islamist party that heads the country’s government, was shot dead in Tunis

In the past few months Islamist thugs have been taking the law into their own hands. Islamist “committees to defend the revolution”, setting themselves up in local districts, have incurred increasing hostility from more secular types. In December they violently broke up a trade union rally.

They have also gone out of their way to attack ancient shrines, deeming them to be idolatrous. Since the revolution of 2011 that overthrew the country’s secular-minded dictator, Zine el-Abidine Ben Ali, at least 40 have been set alight or damaged.

"Renewing America" website: Losing the battle with Islam

"Egypt, the largest Arab state, the second largest recipient of U.S. military aid, and our second most important ally in the Middle East, is now in the hands of a hostile regime – an elected one at that – which we continue to treat as a friendly one," says Raymond Stock in a recent article published by the Middle East Forum.

When President Obama gave a speech in Cairo on January 25, 2009, it was portrayed as an outreach to the Middle East and Islam. Seated in the front row at Cairo University, however, was the leadership of the Muslim Brotherhood. The speech asked Muslims to define themselves "not by national or ethnic identity, but by their religion."

How radical is the Muslim Brotherhood? In January on Holocaust Remembrance Day, a key figure in Morsi's government, Fathi Shihab-Eddim, called the Holocaust a hoax cooked up by U.S. intelligence operatives, saying that the six million Jews killed by the Nazis in World War II had simply moved to the U.S.

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Morsi is on record saying that Jews are "apes and pigs."

To get some insight into life under Islam in Egypt (and elsewhere) some of the fatwas issued in 2012, legal decrees issued by learned Muslims, one called for the destruction of the pyramids and the Sphinx. Another opposed setting a minimum age for marriage in the new constitution, i.e. pedophilia. A fatwa called for scrapping the Camp David accords and another permitted the killing of any anti-Islamization protesters. Greetings to Christians on holidays such as Christmas and Easter were forbidden.

At this writing, the U.S. is shipping the first four of sixteen F-16s promised to Mubarak and giving the Morsi regime two hundred Abrams tanks in the same package. On January 26, Morsi said this was a sign of support for his rule and it is.

Special Operations Speaks, an organization of Special Ops veterans, has spoken out against this weapons transfer noting that "These modern U.S. weapons are part of a package of military aid to Egypt that was concluded in 2010 with the previous Hosni Mubarak regime. The times and our relationship have changed and not for the better," cited the "viciously anti-Semitic and anti-Israel rhetoric of President Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood" deeming the provision of weapons "liberal foreign policy at its most inept."

The U.S. is not alone, however, it supporting a regime dedicated, along with the rest of Islam, to the destruction of the West. Morsi is expecting a $4.8 billion loan from the International Monetary Fund, plus $5 billion in emergency aid from the European Union. More billions have been pledged by Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

The President, the son of a Kenyan Muslim and step-son of an Indonesian Muslim, has consistently demonstrated his support for Islam. One of his first acts as President was to call for the closing of Guantanamo where jihadists are interned. He described the enhanced interrogation used to find Osama bin Laden and to deter further acts of terrorism against America as "torture." His first television interview was with Al-Arabia, a Middle East television channel. Obama has announced plans to travel to Israel, the first such trip since his 2008 campaign.

America and the West are feeding the alligator, hoping to be the last to be eaten. We are losing the battle is Islam and, unless this is reversed, we shall end up being its slaves.

[Prem]

Shia hero not needed in a Sunni play
PLG vsADG

The Iranian President is on a three-day visit to Egypt, where he is attending the 12th annual summit of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC). In an afternoon visit to Sunni Islam’s most revered school of learning, Al-Azhar, the Iranian President was reminded of the centuries old schism between the Shia (mostly Iranian) and Sunni Islam. “Mr. el-Tayeb said attempts to spread Shia Islam in mainly Sunni Arab nations were unacceptable,” reported the Associated Press.Since the Iranian revolution in 1979, Iran has tried to assume the role of chief spokesperson for the entire Muslim community. Given that Shias are a tiny minority amongst the billion-plus Muslims, the majority of Sunnis did not appreciate the attempts by a minority sect to take the centre stage. This, however, has not deterred the cleric-led post revolution Iran for trying to assert itself in conflicts that have pitched Sunni Arabs against others. I would argue that Iran should immediately halt meddling in conflicts involving Sunnis and instead, restrict its efforts to improving the welfare of Shias, who are currently being hounded by extremist Sunnis in places like Pakistan and Bahrain.While the Arab leaders felt threatened by Iran as it tried to emerge as the champion of Muslim causes, the Sunni Arab populace, including the Palestinians, also did not appreciate or welcome Iran’s help. The thought of Shia Iranians leading the Sunni Arabs was equally unacceptable to the Arab elite and the man on the street. Wikileaks released documents in 2008 that revealed the Saudi King wanting the US to attack Iran to “put an end to its nuclear weapons program”. More than 80 per cent Egyptians in a Pew Global Attitudes Project Survey in 2010 considered a nuclear-armed Iran a threat. Most Jordanians, Nigerians, Indonesians and Turks felt the same about Iran. A 2012 survey by the Pew Global Attitudes Project revealed that most Sunnis in several Muslim majority countries did not consider Shias as Muslims.Why then, does Iran try to champion Sunni Arab causes, when its help is not welcome?
Listen to the Mufti’s free advice
President Ahmadinejad and the Iranian religious ruling elite should pay heed to the free advice from the grand mufti of Egypt. The Iranians should not discard it as yet another example of sectarian hate speech. It may be so, but it highlights the enigma Iranians face; the very people they would like to help, do not welcome it. So why bother?

[Agnimitra]

From "Right Side News":
Islam on the Rise in America

"In 1992, nearly fifty thousand Muslims arrived in the United States and received permanent residency status. In 2009, that number soared to 115,000. In truth, no one knows for certain how many Muslim immigrants are presently living in the country."

"In addition to the legal and illegal Muslim immigrants, eighty thousand refugees enter this country under resettlement programs. Nearly seventy-five thousand from Islamic countries."

"Islam, at present, is the most rapidly growing religion in the country, with outreach programs on college campuses, in prisons, and within the military."

In an earlier America, there were restrictions on immigrants from various parts of the world deemed antithetical to the nation's values. The early waves of immigrants came mostly from England and Nordic nations. They were followed by those from Italy, Germany and Eastern Europe as the need for more workers for America's growing industries required more immigrants. Asians were not particularly welcome and Arabs were even less welcome. This changed with the Hart-Celler Act, signed into law by President Johnson in the wake of the Civil Rights Act. It ended an immigration quota system that had governed America for most of his history. It was, for the record, widely opposed by a two-to-one margin. It is a legacy from Edward Kennedy who shepherded the bill through the Senate.

As Williams notes, "September 11, 2001, was not a day that changed everything. It was rather the day that revealed how much had changed. The real shock came not only from the devastation, but also the demographics. The world for many Americans became a place suddenly unrecognizable."

[RoyG]

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If you break down his views he really doesn't disagree with any of the conservative types. He still wants free speech regulated which means no criticism of Islam and believes in regulating dress code for women. His strain of Islam like Sufism is like a fishing lure for dharmists. Once you convert generations below you go more and more green.

[RajeshA]

Gentle Rakshaks,

please also use the thread "Understanding Islamic Society" for posting news and views, especially if they are not from ABROAD, or have nothing to do with Islamism or Islamophobia.

[akashganga]

There is no moderate muslim like a moderate hindu, or moderate budhdhist, or moderate sikh. These so called moderate muslims use some attractive quotes from sufis to gain acceptance among kafirs and even to gain converts. I will recommend www.faithfreedom.org.

If you break down his views he really doesn't disagree with any of the conservative types. He still wants free speech regulated which means no criticism of Islam and believes in regulating dress code for women. His strain of Islam like Sufism is like a fishing lure for dharmists. Once you convert generations below you go more and more green.

[Prem]

Rand Paul on the Rise of Islamic Radicalism
http://blog.heritage.org/2013/02/06/vid ... adicalism/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UU5bE ... r_embedded

Some libertarians argue that Western occupation fans the flames of radical Islam—I agree,” said Paul. “But I don’t agree that absent Western occupation that radical Islam ‘goes quietly into that good night.’ I don’t agree with FDR’s VP Henry Wallace that the Soviets (or radical Islam in today’s case) can be discouraged by ‘the glad hand and the winning smile.’”Instead, Paul argued that adopting a Reagan-like stance in American foreign policy would better serve American interests.“The truth is that Reagan used clear messages of communism’s evil and clear exposition of America’s strength to contain and ultimately transcend the Soviet Union,” he said.

[Agnimitra]

Apparently Islamophibia exists even in Moslem societies!
Egypt: Muslim leaders call for anti-hate laws

Muslim leaders, ending a major summit in Cairo, Thursday called for the world to adopt anti-hate legislation to fight Islamophobia.

Egyptian Foreign Minister Mohammed Amr urged for an end to “fierce attacks on Islam and Muslims under the pretext of freedom of expression.”

[RamaY]

^ they want the fatwas in the guise of anti-hate laws in Kufr-lands.

[harbans]

Apparently Islamophibia exists even in Moslem societies!

They are trying to pass blasphemy and now anti hate speech resolutions in international fora. There was an attempt sometime back to get some such resolution passed in the UN. Indian delegates and other 3rd world nations thought..yeah that sounds a nice thing to do.

That is why i said Owaisi should never have been arrested for hate speech. He should have been pulled up for threatening the State. Not Hate speech. This is revolting if people are unable to comprehend the danger.

[svinayak]

Rand Paul on the Rise of Islamic Radicalism
http://blog.heritage.org/2013/02/06/vid ... adicalism/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UU5bE ... r_embedded

Some libertarians argue that Western occupation fans the flames of radical Islam—I agree,” said Paul. “But I don’t agree that absent Western occupation that radical Islam ‘goes quietly into that good night.’ I don’t agree with FDR’s VP Henry Wallace that the Soviets (or radical Islam in today’s case) can be discouraged by ‘the glad hand and the winning smile.’”Instead, Paul argued that adopting a Reagan-like stance in American foreign policy would better serve American interests.“The truth is that Reagan used clear messages of communism’s evil and clear exposition of America’s strength to contain and ultimately transcend the Soviet Union,” he said.

There is a reason why Paul has to say it that way.

[Anindya]

Raping women in Tahrir NOT ‘red line’: Egyptian preacher Abu Islam

An Egyptian Salafi preacher said raping and sexually harassing women protesters in Cairo’s Tahrir Square is justified, calling them “crusaders” who “have no shame, no fear and not even feminism.”

In an online video posted Wednesday, Ahmad Mahmoud Abdullah, known as “Abu Islam” and owner of the private television channel of “al-Ummah,” said these women are no red line.

“They tell you women are a red line. They tell you that naked women -- who are going to Tahrir Square because they want to be raped -- are a red line! And they ask Mursi and the Brotherhood to leave power!,” he said.

Abu Islam added that these women activists are going to Tahrir Square not to protest but to be sexually abused because they had wanted to be raped.

“They have no shame, no fear and not even feminism. Practice your feminism, sheikha! It is a legitimate right for you to be a woman,” he said.

“And by the way, 90 percent of them are crusaders and the remaining 10 percent are widows who have no one to control them. You see women talking like monsters,” he added.

[Anindya]

Saudi imam rapes, tortures 5-yr-old daughter because he 'doubted her virginity'

[nawabs]

Egyptian Islamist says Sharia requires that country's Liberal & Secular leaders be killed

http://viewrz.com/video/egyptian-islami ... -be-killed

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Arab jihadis took bloody sharia retribution on Mali's black AfricansThe people of Gao endured nine months of amputations and floggings under the rule of Islamist rebels – much of it aimed at ethnic groups

"No one was allowed to speak," said Issa Alzouma. "Then they cut off my hand with a knife."Alzouma had been accused of stealing a motorbike, which he denies. At 39, he made a living digging gravel for construction companies. It was enough to support his wife and three children. Now he roams Gao in tattered clothes, the stump of his right arm wrapped in a grubby bandage, a flimsy black plastic bag dangling from his remaining wrist. Inside he keeps a few antibiotics and replacement bandages given by a Red Cross doctor who treated him at Gao hospital a week after his amputation."The doctor had to cut in and remove flesh because it was infected," he said. "Under the bandage you can see my bones. It hurts and I feel as if my bones are coming out."Suspects were confined to a small room where they were tied up and beaten, before being brought before Islamic judges, known as marabous, who sat every Monday and Thursday."The jihadis had their own marabous," said Altini. "They asked me if the rumours that I slept with men were true. They said that before the time of the Prophet such things were allowed, but now it is condemned by Islam." One marabou suggested that the men should be given a second chance, but another said they should be executed. The final decision seems to have been taken by Abdul Hakim, a Moroccan who was MUJAO's leader in Gao, and Aliou Muhammar Touré, a local man who was appointed Islamic police commissioner.
"Abdul Hakim and Aliou Muhammar came to visit us in the police station after the judgment," said Altini. "Aliou said: 'I will tie their hands and feet myself.' Abdul Hakim replied: 'Well, I will cut their throats myself.' Aliou wanted my parents to witness the execution."
According to Gao residents, the victims of sharia punishments were from Mali's black African ethnic groups, while the jihadis were mostly lighter-skinned Arabs – both Malian and foreign – and Tuaregs. Aliou Muhammar Touré, of the Songhai tribe, was one of the few black Malians to join MUJAO.If you are a Tuareg or Arab, or if you look like them, they don't threaten you," said Alzouma, the amputee, who is from the Bella, the group traditionally used as slaves by the Tuareg. "Their people smuggle drugs, cigarettes and everything, but they don't threaten their own families, just black people – the Songhai, the Bella and the Bambara."A year ago Tuaregs rose to demand an independent state in the north. Many Tuareg officers deserted the army to join the rebellion. Some joined forces with jihadis, mostly Algerian or Malian Arabs, who were using the desert for kidnapping and smuggling. During the past nine months, in which they established an Islamist mini-state, jihadis from across the globe arrived in northern Mali.
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