Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 05 Feb 2013 06:30

To combat crime and maintain law and order in surat, NaMo recently inaguarated safe city surat initiative on jan 18 2013.

some features- surat is an important city, growing fast, needs beter technology to prevent crimes, maintain law and order.
people participation with funding from public and private industries- all are involved in maintianing peace and success.

The police in Gujarat has the lowest age in average compared to rest of India

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waiting for rahul baby to utter some nice ideas for India

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 05 Feb 2013 08:22

ramana wrote:Note the anxiety across the border in TSP.
They might do the INC a favor.

anxiety regarding Modi?

johneeG · Post by **johneeG** » 05 Feb 2013 09:34

Muppalla wrote:
devesh wrote:If Modi does attain the gaddi, what are the realistic expectations from him?

will he be able to dent the Islamic consolidation in the North and places like Kerala in the South?

is the time even right to attempt such a thing?

has the "Hindu" woken up to the extent that he/she will back the leader who attempts such a thing?
Realistic expectations:
(1) Make sure that the institutions such as CBI, judiciary are really independent with no Sonia moles or any type moles.
(2) Intel agencies work for India rather congress party. Make them independent and lethal.
(3) Congress ruled India for 50+ years so it has advantage among the establishment. Destroy that advantage permanently. That itself will lead to automatic changes where real people power is represented. This is fundamental change that India needs. The Dilli billi that is created during Mughal times extended to British and is core of Congress party. This has to go if India really has to feel and breathe the freedom
(4) Good electoral reforms where there is no room for a winner getting less than 50% of votes polled. This will destroy the negatives of casteism, vote blocks and entitlement based coalitions.
(5) Economic liberalization that will abolish entitlements such as NRGEA and reduce labor costs so that competitive small scale industry develops to compete with other Asian nations.

Above is a tall order that ABV could not realize during his rule. If Modi can achieve just those in the next term that is enough.

The following are bonus (not required):
(1) stopping illegal immigration
(2) Constructing a massive Ram temple at Ayodhya

devesh wrote:what about cleaning up the "security apparatus"? something like dismissing all "managers" above a certain rank in CBI/IB/etc? perhaps even doing the "unthinkable": put a BJP/RSS worker/loyalist as head of one of these agencies and have them clean up the whole organization? this is the American style of govt: heads of major agencies are changed by each administration.

the "managers" who show a peculiar cruelty in going after INC/Dynasty's enemies should perhaps receive "special" treatment that will remind the others just what awaits them if they go out of control in service to dynasty?

Immediate task: Resurrect the growth story...
a) Development- employment, education and empowerment.
Infrastructure - roads,...etc.
Control inflation...
b) Security - from internal and external threats.
c) Weed out the commie-ej-dynastic nexus in education sector(in crafting the syllabi) and history dept.
d) Cleanse the media from crooks and establish a watch-body to monitor violations.

Media and education sector are vital and therefore must be immediately recovered because they are the most potent weapons in the opponent's hands.

Long-term bonus plans:
a) Reform babucracy (weed out those who have vested interests in perpetuating the corrupt and inefficient system). Babucracy includes pandus, afsars, army top brass, top judges, ...etc.
b) Reform electoral process : compulsory voting with an option to reject all the candidates. Compulsory voting can potentially punch a massive hole into caste-combination and minority appeasement politics.
c) Reform judiciary: justice delayed is justice denied.

I think NaMo's job is to remove the negatives put by the dynasty. Once the negatives are removed, people can do a lot by themselves.

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 05 Feb 2013 11:58

vijayk wrote:
ramana wrote:Note the anxiety across the border in TSP.
They might do the INC a favor.
anxiety regarding Modi?

favour?

probability cannot be denied.

member_20134 · Post by **member_20134** » 05 Feb 2013 12:05

In this thread, as well as in the national media, Modi's detractors only have contrived negative stories about him, I am yet to see any positive posts from Modi's detractors about Rahul's achievements. I think in the long run, such a sustained anti Modi campaign will be counter productive to the dynasty.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 05 Feb 2013 12:48

However, a section of the Congress is reportedly doing some rather loud, rather confused out-of-the-box thinking.

What -- they ponder -- if Singh insists on retiring, vacates the office of prime minister, appeals to Rahul Gandhi to take over and early Lok Sabha polls are declared?

If you think this scenario is bizarre, check out Plan B – which is even more... for want of a better word... strange!

Plab B has been suggested in case Singh retires and a reticent Rahul declines the prime minister's kursi (chair). In this scenario, current Union Home Minister Sushil Kumar Shinde could be the next stop-gap prime minister.

One wonders which convoluted brain came up with this solution, considering the amount of trouble Shinde -- who seems to suffer from an incurable foot-in-the-mouth disease -- has gotten into ever since he became home minister.

A Congress insider explains the reasoning, thus: A Dalit-cum-minorities alliance/resurgence would be able check Narendra Modi's tremendous appeal.

http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/s ... 130204.htm

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 05 Feb 2013 12:54

House of cards: Rahul gets a taste of turf war at first party meet

RG seems to be forcing himself to meet wailing Congmen when he'd rather be vacationing abroad is the sense I get from the puffpiece. There's no way he'd want to be PM even if UPA3 became reality (not saying it won't, but hypothetically only).

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 05 Feb 2013 15:07

have you ever seen someone who is a slacker till age 41 and then suddenly turns a worker bee and pulls the routine 14 hr workdays a indian PM needs to do?

there is only so much a circle of courtiers can shield the king...king ultimately has to chair lots of meetings and make lots of decisions.

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 05 Feb 2013 17:15

you cannot fake it. one has to actually like dealing with people, however annoying they might be. you have to like that game.

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 05 Feb 2013 17:49

My one sentence to someone I know I told about the prince - Uski phat gayee hai PM banane ke naam pe. Why? Well I personally know my capability, I spend numerous hours on BR and I am passionate about it. In fact I have opinion about almost everything regarding defense. If they were to offer me COAS post and ask me to go and fight TSP, what would I do? Run!! The poor prince is in similar situation.
A better analogy is everyone has an opinion on how the batting or bowling should be done and how India should play or dhoni should captain. 99.9% of us/them would bail out if they are really offered that opportunity.
Same with the prince.

nawabs · Post by **nawabs** » 05 Feb 2013 18:21

महाकुंभः कांग्रेसियों ने राहुल को बनाया 'नीलकंठ' और सोनिया को 'लक्ष्मीबाई'

http://www.bhaskar.com/article/UP-MK-NE ... .html?HT2=
आस्था की नगरी में इन दिनों धर्म से ज्यादा नरेंद्र मोदी और राहुल गांधी की चर्चा ज़ोरों पर है। इसी बीच कुंभ क्षेत्र में राहुल गांधी और सोनिया गांधी के दो विवादित पोस्टरों ने मामले को और गरम कर दिया। कांग्रेस के कुछ स्थानीय कार्यकर्ताओं ने कुंभ क्षेत्र में दो विवादित पोस्टर लगाए हैं। एक पोस्टर पर राहुल गांधी की तुलना नीलकंठ महादेव से की गई है तो दूसरे में सोनिया गांधी को रानी लक्ष्मी बाई के रूप में दर्शाया गया है। दोनों ही पोस्टरों को मेले क्षेत्र में प्रशासन की अनुमति के बिना लगाया गया है।

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 05 Feb 2013 20:41

A delegation led by Andhra Pradesh minister visits Narendra Modi

The Andhra Pradesh government’s ports and infrastructure department delegation is in Gujarat to study the comprehensive coastal development success story.

http://deshgujarat.com/2013/02/05/a-del ... ndra-modi/

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 05 Feb 2013 20:44

Narendra Modi was invited to SRCC Business Conclave 2013 after a survey among students

SRCC governing body and students had carried out an internal survey to take a decision that who should be called to the concluding session. 80% youths selected Shri Narendra Modi. In this backdrop the governing council invited Shri Modi to grace the function. Shri Modi accepted the invitation and will attend the function on Wednesday.

http://deshgujarat.com/2013/02/05/naren ... -students/

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 05 Feb 2013 22:02

http://daily.bhaskar.com/article/GUJ-AH ... 1-NOR.html

Top Congress leaders of Rajasthan were put in an awkward situation when a crowd gathered at the wedding-reception of Gujarat Governor Dr Kamla’s granddaughter hailed Modi as the future prime minister (PM).

On Friday night, Modi attended the function where Aditi, the daughter of Dr Kamla’s son Alok, tied the knot with Vikas, son of Congress general secretary Suresh Chaudhary. Top Congress leaders of the state were present on the occasion at Hotel Raj Mahal Palace in Jaipur.

Modi and Rajasthan BJP MP Om Mathur arrived at the venue around 10 pm and went to the podium to bless the newly married couple. They then met Dr Kamla and Rajasthan governor Margaret Alva.

At that time, some persons in the crowd hailed Modi by shouting slogans like “Desh ka Pradhan Mantri kaisa ho, Narendra Modi jaisa ho” (a person like Narendra Modi should become the PM of the country).” During the function, many Congress leaders and their family members were seen rushing curiously to have a glimpse of Modi.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 05 Feb 2013 23:07

“shocking and very disturbing”

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 05 Feb 2013 23:38

^^ why in Modi dhaga?

Rampy · Post by **Rampy** » 06 Feb 2013 00:02

SaiK wrote:“shocking and very disturbing”

Paper should also publish about swami ... Amount from 500 would be less

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 06 Feb 2013 01:59

Sushupti wrote:^^ why in Modi dhaga?

I need to measure certain reactions.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 06 Feb 2013 05:58

Modi as PM: whose gain?

While travelling in a taxi in Mumbai, I broached the hot topic of discussion these days, ‘Modi as BJP’s prime ministerial face’. The taxi driver seemed a bit unsure about its overall outcome on BJP’s fortunes but was sure about his own vote going to Modi.
“If he has developed Gujarat, he will develop India also,” was his reason for supporting him. He is one voice from development starved India.
Then why are you so unsure about BJP forming the government? The answer in one word was ‘Muslims’. They will vote with a vengeance to defeat him unlike Gujarat where they either supported him or stayed back home out of fear of vendetta.

http://blogs.hindustantimes.com/hindi-h ... hose-gain/

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 06 Feb 2013 06:54

Kick-off to 2014? Modi will visit the Mahakumbh on February 12 but snubs VHP's Dharam Sansad

Hmmm... so NM won't attend "VHP's" dharm sansad. ... NM doesn't do anything without thinking it through (or so I hope). So, is this a case of intranecine feuding (NM vs VHP - old battle?) or is some deeper game at play? What does it say about NM's confidence and relative power equations within the sangh if NM feels he can affords to ignore (assuming he can) the dharm sansad...??

I still feel he should have addressed the dharm sansad via video link if need be. The symbolic power of a sadhu samaj blessing ( but a non-VHP one, preferably?) would be great indeed...

Chalo, he'll attend the Kumbh itself...would greatly appreciate if folks in the know post snippets from the vernbacular press in the GV about the visit...

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 06 Feb 2013 06:59

^ HS ji

You fell into the Dhimmi paid media trap. The news heading is as usual sensationalist and the details have no mention of snub vnub vagairaa...

The dharma samsad is on 6th and 7th where as he is visiting Maha Kumbhamela on 12th.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 06 Feb 2013 08:03

RamaY wrote:^ HS ji

You fell into the Dhimmi paid media trap. The news heading is as usual sensationalist and the details have no mention of snub vnub vagairaa...

The dharma samsad is on 6th and 7th where as he is visiting Maha Kumbhamela on 12th.

THis has become so common among Dhimmi PAID media: Half truths, Total lies, making up stories, linking VHP/Tagodia to Modi when they want and claim Modi and VHP are against each other. There are so many lies that they don't even know what they said second ago.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 06 Feb 2013 08:56

Narendra Modi in Aap ki Adalat on IndiaTV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lkYnFPZsbw
Praise of Narendra Modi in front of Secular Kumar Vishwas

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 06 Feb 2013 08:57

Hari Seldon wrote:Kick-off to 2014? Modi will visit the Mahakumbh on February 12 but snubs VHP's Dharam Sansad

I don't think Modi should have anything whatsoever to do with VHP and Togadia...and in any case I hear Togadia was kicked out of Gujarat whenever he tried to butt in.

A Sadhu Samaj blessing without Togadia's involvement is what is called for.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 06 Feb 2013 09:11

BJP hoping to project 2014 election as a duel between Narendra Modi and Rahul Gandhi

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 359805.cms

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 06 Feb 2013 09:12

Newfound bustle losing steam?

http://m.thehindu.com/news/national/new ... o/r5NI0XOk

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 06 Feb 2013 09:13

" Maine apni Maa ka doodh piya hain "... Narendra Modi taking on terrorist

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 06 Feb 2013 09:19

Sushupti wrote:BJP hoping to project 2014 election as a duel between Narendra Modi and Rahul Gandhi

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 359805.cms

"Hoping" to project...what the hell does that mean ? Why would Modi sully himself in comparison with a pipsqueak no self-respecting country would have tolerated in leadership position ?

The Economic Times used to be a good paper - which has been destroyed by a retard called TK Arun. Doesn't make much sense to give airtime to these idiots.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 06 Feb 2013 16:28

Arjun wrote: The Economic Times used to be a good paper - which has been destroyed by a retard called TK Arun. Doesn't make much sense to give airtime to these idiots.

Economic Times is the absolute junk these days. Its been atleast five years in that fashion.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 06 Feb 2013 16:33

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... wL6zIecOjU

Here is the live telecast of Modi's speech.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 06 Feb 2013 16:37

Damn it man, almost all channels including DD are showing Modi ji's speech live. Good, very well organized.

Just the beginning I guess.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 06 Feb 2013 16:46

Minimum Government and maximum Governance in the slogan to note. Gen-X infornt of him.

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 06 Feb 2013 16:57

NM was reported to be going to Dharm Sansad on 6th or 7th, though never confirmed. Now he is going on 12th.

I suspect Togadia is moving faster then necessary and edgewise. Hence I guess, the change of plans.

At this rate I suspect Togadia will become a noose for NM. This is the place some well thought out political moves are required. Togadia may need to be slowed down.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 06 Feb 2013 17:01

muraliravi wrote:Damn it man, almost all channels including DD are showing Modi ji's speech live. Good, very well organized.

Just the beginning I guess.

TRP ratings are very high probably. However, DD telecasting it live is a surprise.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 06 Feb 2013 17:04

17:07 'We don't have snake charmers, we have mouse charmers': "In Taiwan, a person asked me if we still have snake charmers and superstition. I said no, we are mouse charmers. You see, the youth of this nation has its finger on the mouse of computers and it is them and not politicians who are changing the world," says Modi to loud applause.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 06 Feb 2013 17:07

ravi_g wrote:NM was reported to be going to Dharm Sansad on 6th or 7th, though never confirmed. Now he is going on 12th.

I suspect Togadia is moving faster then necessary and edgewise. Hence I guess, the change of plans.

At this rate I suspect Togadia will become a noose for NM. This is the place some well thought out political moves are required. Togadia may need to be slowed down.

Don't worry, it is now becoming a very powerful engine. Togadia cannot do much and he will get discredited in his own circles. Actually going after VHP meeting to Mahakumbh may be a well thought out plan. Bang for the buck analysis does not bring may not have see a great utility for attending VHP meet.

Important thing is that he is attending maha kumbh and let us see what his plans are.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 06 Feb 2013 17:09

CNN IBN's Bhupendra Chaubey tweets: While modi is speaking at SRCC, listen to SP's aazam khan on modi's kumbh yaatra: " ganga ko ganda karne ke liye aa rahe hain"

17:25 Modi seems to have just been gauging his popularity with that statement, since he has now concluded his speech with the remark that apart from milk and salt the coaches of Delhi's metro also come from Gujarat. Modi ends with this message: "We need to swap vote bank politics for development. The country has been destroyed by vote bank politics, it needs development." #LIVE-Modi-Speaks

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 06 Feb 2013 17:11

Shri Narendra Modi addressing students at SRCC Business Conclave, Delhi

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 06 Feb 2013 17:21

‏@ANI_news
Modi has said nothing new, Rajiv Gandhi had said long back that 21st century will belong to India-Rashid Alvi

ravi_shankar · Post by **ravi_shankar** » 06 Feb 2013 17:23

absolutely amazing...not even a semblance that he is reading from a script..flawless.. somebody was mentioning in CNN IBN that till yesterday evening this was supposed to a media-less address.. but things changed late last night where it was decided that media can be there also..tons of coverage..almost every metro would have been glued to this..master stroke...