Internal Security Watch

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 09 Feb 2013 08:47

NaMo should visit dilli often.
Looks like double quick action after his speech aka Lanka Dahan.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 09 Feb 2013 08:54

^ yep. After his win Kasab gone and now Afjal.

What next? NM is declared BJP candidate and INC will start building Ram Temple?

kenop · Post by **kenop** » 09 Feb 2013 09:05

Anand K wrote:NDTV says the creep's mercy petition has been rejected onlee and not hanged yet.

Maybe someone's trying to leak the news of rejection and stir trouble.

I must say, the diva was very sombre.
None of the high pitched school girl excitement.

sum · Post by **sum** » 09 Feb 2013 09:09

RamaY wrote:^ yep. After his win Kasab gone and now Afjal.

What next? NM is declared BJP candidate and INC will start building Ram Temple?

Looks like it

Truely have to admire NaMo for forcing even INCs hand and forcing them to take decisions

V_Raman · Post by **V_Raman** » 09 Feb 2013 09:14

Here is my CT. INC knows that NaMo is coming to power. The silent Hindu majority across BJP/INC agreed that it will not be possible for NaMo to hang these terrorists. So INC govt is doing to due diligence.

kenop · Post by **kenop** » 09 Feb 2013 09:19

kind of OT but I am tempted to stick my neck out to say
# Populist budget on the way (they have already "saved" Rs 20000 Cr by cutting defense spendings)
# Announcement of general elections immediately after the budget. General elections in May-Jun 2013. Most of the country is weather-wise easy.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 09 Feb 2013 09:47

Arnab openly taking jibes at NDTV calling them terrorist sympathizers. Arnab says we have taken conscious decision to not give space to terrorist sympathizers.

Just now he said to General Shankar Roy Choudhary : " Predictable noises coming from pro-terrorists groups".

Sagrawal · Post by **Sagrawal** » 09 Feb 2013 10:20

Burkha is repeating SAR Geelani statement every 5 minutes.

Anand K · Post by **Anand K** » 09 Feb 2013 10:52

Burkha trying to draw parallels with Maqbool Bhat hanging.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 09 Feb 2013 11:11

Its time to make the list of Terrorist Sympathising Persons in English Media of India. They will be all out now to show their sombreness instead of satisfaction over Guru Getting Pecking In Paradise. Good Muhurat for 2014 Begining .

Anand K · Post by **Anand K** » 09 Feb 2013 11:12

Dilip Padgaonkar doesn't sound as bad as he was made out to be. He sounds quite reasonable in his support of the due process of the law and the decision to hang Afzal Guru

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 09 Feb 2013 11:31

The ostensible 'pragmatic' reason for staying afzal's execution was fears of trouble in J&K. Let's see how much of that bogey actually is true only.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 09 Feb 2013 12:08

Anand K wrote:Dilip Padgaonkar doesn't sound as bad as he was made out to be. He sounds quite reasonable in his support of the due process of the law and the decision to hang Afzal Guru

Oh he can be very resonable around ANY position he is expected to take, just that the lack of cosistency around them and their change with time is intriguing

pradeepe · Post by **pradeepe** » 09 Feb 2013 13:08

About time. Good riddance.

Just shows that the right and left can switch positions:) if for nothing but just to take the wind away from the others sails. How does the other respond now. The UPA by association with the left and endemic vote ban pandering seems born with two left feet. Now as its forced to respond to a strong right, an interesting dance shall ensue. The growth of the right with Modi as the acceptable face is good. The issue is that Modi cannot carry the right's secular vision by himself. There has to be more to the story.

Good news though, I was not expecting the UPA to act on Afzal so fast.

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 09 Feb 2013 13:10

Geelani arrested

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 09 Feb 2013 13:25

Heard Manish Tiwary mentioned Gujarat while declaring Afzal Guru's hanging? Does anybody know which channel this happened on?

ashkrishna · Post by **ashkrishna** » 09 Feb 2013 13:31

What a glorious fall from the rhetoric of "Aar paar ki ladayi" to the empty rejoicing at the long overdue death of a petty Islamic gangster!

What has the Indian state done to effectively project its might and influence in Cashmere?

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 09 Feb 2013 14:36

Muslim body condemns Afzal hanging

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 09 Feb 2013 15:08

One has to agree that mood of nation is completely against congress in upcoming elections and a soft undercurrent of Hindutva is flowing in favour of BJP, on top growing clamour of NaMo becoming PM and the pressure was strong enough to hang this jihadi

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 09 Feb 2013 15:11

^^ They said the same in the last elections and you know what happened.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 09 Feb 2013 15:19

In last 5 years there has been changes, atleast (IMHO) you will get to see the effect on urban areas

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 09 Feb 2013 16:13

I am waiting to see the reaction from the usual quarters in tomorrow's editorials on the hanging. We can well predict the line of reasoning.

The civilized world is moving away from death penalties; there was scope for reformation and making Afzal Guru a productive member of the society; we needed to balm the Kashmiri wounds but we have inflammed them even more; this will affect the peace process; he was already dead because of the long delay; there was no fair trial; there was room for leniency; due process of law was not followed after the President rejected the mercy petition; the hanging was hurried through so as not to give Afzal Guru an opportunity to seek other legal avenues; he was not directly involved in the execution of the crime; the body should have been handed over to the family etc.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 09 Feb 2013 16:51

I feel 1. Pakistan may retaliate by hanging Sarabjeet 2. Congress may try to do equal in India by hanging a Hindu escape goat in name of saffron terror

member_23629 · Post by **member_23629** » 09 Feb 2013 17:53

Praveen Togadia explains his controversial speech in interview with Aaj Tak:

http://aajtak.intoday.in/video/i-was-a- ... 21190.html

Varoon Shekhar · Post by **Varoon Shekhar** » 09 Feb 2013 18:56

Two news outlets, Yahoo! and the Toronto Star, have not even carried the news of the death of one of the masterminds behind the parliament attack. Now, contrast this absence, with the amount of ink they consumed about a stupid, moronic story of a minor business establishment in Mumbai using a Swastika as its logo; a Pakistani actress claiming she was filmed in the nude without her express permission; a eunuch festival; a policeman who faked or padded some of his claims of bravery; a flying car; a problem with human waste on railway tracks; the big deal made over India's rational hesitation in allowing FDI in retail, and several more.

What is with these jackasses?

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 09 Feb 2013 19:17

Congress is clearly desperate. It decided to hang Afzal due to Modi and Shinde remarks. One thing is for sure, this act reinforces the notion that elections will be held very soon. They can't afford to wait out the entire year and continue to lose votes.

sum · Post by **sum** » 09 Feb 2013 19:38

^^ If you see Shinde's press conference,he clearly emphasizes that a new HM and a new prez were in place and so they relooked and took "swift" action!

Lots of politics involved in this

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 09 Feb 2013 20:12

sum wrote:^^ If you see Shinde's press conference,he clearly emphasizes that a new HM and a new prez were in place and so they relooked and took "swift" action!

Lots of politics involved in this

So he is implying that either the last HM was not willing or Pratibha Patil was dead set against this action which has been waiting for years.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 09 Feb 2013 20:20

Faking News
Pratibha Patil used to send herself out of the country, while Pranab Mukherjee has been sending others out of the world.

Faking News
Kasab's pending friend request to Afzal Guru got automatically approved this morning.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 09 Feb 2013 20:22

Is it Congis , who are deciding these hanging or is it the current President , who is giving Congis these nightmares to explain the delay in hangings? It is well known that Pranab da doesnt listen to Congi highcommand.

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 09 Feb 2013 20:34

Chandragupta wrote:Heard Manish Tiwary mentioned Gujarat while declaring Afzal Guru's hanging? Does anybody know which channel this happened on?

It was press conference that Munna Tiwari gave the comment. He spoke 2-3 lines on how no action has been taken in Gujarat so far on 2002 riots. I could not believe my eyes when I heard him say these. He launched in to Gujarat within a minute into his speech.

Arnab also said P. Patil refused to attend to any mercy petitions as these were very political.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 09 Feb 2013 22:11

X-post....

A few minutes ago ie 8:45 am Saturday, 9 Feb 2013, NPR had a three liner on Afzal Guru hanging in New Delhi. Is it that important to read out on a weekend in US?
NPR said Afzal Guru claimed to be innocent. Does any terrorist claim have done the deed? Didnt OBL claim he didnt do 9/11 but knew the guys who did it. And didn't US execute OBL in Abbortabad without due process that India gave Afzal Guru? And what about Awalaki killed by a drone in Yemen again without due process? India had trial all the way to the Supreme Court and kept the Paki sponsored terrorist Afzal Guru on state funded kabab and biryani for 12 years and then executed him after the appeals process was exhausted.

I think the delay in hanging Afzal Guru had US duplicity hand in it. It was also a CBM to TSP to stop the execution of their terrorist. This does not deny the INC panderinng to the mythical Muslim vote. Its a travesty to Indian Muslims that a terrorist criminal is stopped by INC from getting justice as a votebank sop. They are better than that.

Maybe its message to Kerryroist also.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 09 Feb 2013 23:01

ramana wrote:X-post....

A few minutes ago ie 8:45 am Saturday, 9 Feb 2013, NPR had a three liner on Afzal Guru hanging in New Delhi. Is it that important to read out on a weekend in US?
NPR said Afzal Guru claimed to be innocent. Does any terrorist claim have done the deed? Didnt OBL claim he didnt do 9/11 but knew the guys who did it. And didn't US execute OBL in Abbortabad without due process that India gave Afzal Guru? And what about Awalaki killed by a drone in Yemen again without due process? India had trial all the way to the Supreme Court and kept the Paki sponsored terrorist Afzal Guru on state funded kabab and biryani for 12 years and then executed him after the appeals process was exhausted.

I think the delay in hanging Afzal Guru had US duplicity hand in it. It was also a CBM to TSP to stop the execution of their terrorist. This does not deny the INC panderinng to the mythical Muslim vote. Its a travesty to Indian Muslims that a terrorist criminal is stopped by INC from getting justice as a votebank sop. They are better than that.

Maybe its message to Kerryroist also.

The Mumbai attack was done just after US election when Obama was elected. Before the new govt took over in Jan 2009 they could attack India since they knew that there is nobody who can take a decision in US against Pakistan. SoS C. Rice was in transition and govt transiton team was also busy.

Afzal Guru hanging was done after the US election in 2012 in Nov during the anniversary of attack in Nov 26. This was durin the time of US govt before taking oath. US govt has no say in the Indian Judicial system and they cannot interfere in the Indian decision and Indian security matters

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 09 Feb 2013 23:38

chaanakya wrote:Is it Congis , who are deciding these hanging or is it the current President , who is giving Congis these nightmares to explain the delay in hangings? It is well known that Pranab da doesnt listen to Congi highcommand.

+100.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 09 Feb 2013 23:47

Read this ashraf voice
Hanging could have damaging repercussions

And the Congress in its usual cynical manipulation of the votes is trying to eat into the majority constituency with this action. As for the Kashmiris they do not figure in Delhi's plans. As for the secular forces, the argument voiced by Congress leaders is: 'Where will you go. If there is Modi as prime minister you will have to be with us.'

So the minorities do not figure either, as they are the bechaara who can easily be made to run into Congress arms while fleeing from communal shadows. The secularists too, in the Congress analysis, will not be far behind as there is no Left and hence no Third Front alternative that could attract them in the polls.

So all in all a cozy scenario, except for the fact that the dynamics of India and the aspirations of the people cannot be controlled and tend to upset the most careful calibrations

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 09 Feb 2013 23:57

Muppalla wrote:Read this ashraf voice
Hanging could have damaging repercussions

No cuntry in the world where a foriegner who is convicted when hanged get someobody to defend him
And they even talk about repercussions when the person is foreigners

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 10 Feb 2013 00:14

ramana wrote:X-post....

A few minutes ago ie 8:45 am Saturday, 9 Feb 2013, NPR had a three liner on Afzal Guru hanging in New Delhi. Is it that important to read out on a weekend in US?
NPR said Afzal Guru claimed to be innocent. Does any terrorist claim have done the deed? Didnt OBL claim he didnt do 9/11 but knew the guys who did it. And didn't US execute OBL in Abbortabad without due process that India gave Afzal Guru? And what about Awalaki killed by a drone in Yemen again without due process? India had trial all the way to the Supreme Court and kept the Paki sponsored terrorist Afzal Guru on state funded kabab and biryani for 12 years and then executed him after the appeals process was exhausted.

I think the delay in hanging Afzal Guru had US duplicity hand in it. It was also a CBM to TSP to stop the execution of their terrorist. This does not deny the INC panderinng to the mythical Muslim vote. Its a travesty to Indian Muslims that a terrorist criminal is stopped by INC from getting justice as a votebank sop. They are better than that.

Maybe its message to Kerryroist also.

Why Now? The answer to that will be interesting.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 10 Feb 2013 00:58

acharya, You are getting confused between Kasab who was hanged in Nov 2012 and Afzal Guru who was hanged now in 2013.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 10 Feb 2013 01:02

What does everyone's conscience-keeper Arun Dratit Roy have to say about this hanging?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 10 Feb 2013 01:07

So what happened to whose bast*rds in MHA who used to speak of a queue system for death penalty awardees?

Wasnt that lying to Indina public?

I can understand a political person making such a statement but IAS officers making such political statements!
One visit of NaMo and Lanka dhana has started.

If MOdi gets elected Pm you can see all those rascals going back to the state govts or retiring without paying the price.