Hyderabad Bomb Blast 2/21/13
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The two posts about the tussle between NIA and AP police shows the blasts are INC-MIM handiwork to get rid off KKR govt. KKR doesn't want to lose control of the case and is insisting on AP police to handle the local case. NIA can handle the national case if it is there.
KKR is a graduate of Nizam College and knows all the bastis and gullies and mohallas.
And how to handle MIM IM cadre.
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What is there to ge frustrated when NIA track record is so exemplary since it was formed!
It hasn't brought one blast case accused to even trial let alone convicted.
And so far they were never able to identify any explosive used in a blast case.
They outdo Inspector Clouseau of Pink Panther fame! Atleast that character gets the criminal even with incompetence.
And the nerve/cheek to call themselves National Investigation Agency when its a cover-up agency!
KKR is a graduate of Nizam College and knows all the bastis and gullies and mohallas.
And how to handle MIM IM cadre.
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What is there to ge frustrated when NIA track record is so exemplary since it was formed!
It hasn't brought one blast case accused to even trial let alone convicted.
And so far they were never able to identify any explosive used in a blast case.
They outdo Inspector Clouseau of Pink Panther fame! Atleast that character gets the criminal even with incompetence.
And the nerve/cheek to call themselves National Investigation Agency when its a cover-up agency!
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The Shinde move for NCTC is another malafide measure to cover up INC inspired attacks to consolidate vote-banks before the 2014 elections.
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^^^
100%. NIA will lose the chance to cover up.
100%. NIA will lose the chance to cover up.
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Deccan Chronicle:
http://www.deccanchronicle.com/130303/n ... tv-footage
More names thrown up in the mix:
Seems like its another dead end with more confusing names being outed to make it look like they are onto something.
Meanwhile we have police from four states visiting Hyderabad to sample the biryani.
Bawarchi makes a good variety if they need pointers!
http://www.deccanchronicle.com/130303/n ... tv-footage
More names thrown up in the mix:
So if the guys had no clue about the blasts why are the police releasing their names and badnaaming them? In the first case Maqbool was known offender and released from jail. The police should have tabs on him and took him into preventive custody instead of harassing those who came into contact with him.
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IM operatives shown cctv footage
DC | U. Sudhakar Reddy | 03rd Mar 2013
Hyderabad: National Investigation Agency (NIA) officials and counter intelligence sleuths showed Indian Mujahideen operatives Syed Maqbool and Imran Khan, CCTV footages from Kalaniketan showroom and from other shops and traffic cameras before the Dilsukhnagar blasts to see if they could identify anyone.
The agencies also identified three Hyderabadis who gave logistical support to Maqbool and Khan when they had conducted a recce in 2012.
A senior cop in the investigation team said, “The three of them were giving logistical support. However, we found they don’t have any information regarding his terror activities.”![]()
Maha cops pick up Hyderabad youth
Sources said that the three Hyderabadis who gave logistical support to Maqbool and Khan when they had conducted a recce in 2012 in the city were clueless about the terrorist activities of Maqbool.
The three were identified as Mohammed Abrar Hussain, 35, a realtor from Malakpet, Syed Adnan Ahmed, 22, a B.Com final year student from Anwar Ul Uloom College and Muteeur Rahman, 20, an Intermediate student and brother one Ubaidurahman (formerly arrested by Bengaluru police in a conspiracy case), a resident of Chandrayangutta.
“Abrar had given his vehicle for Maqbool for conducting a recce at Dilsukhnagar. Maqbool had stayed in Babanagar in the old city in a rented house to avoid agencies. The others were also in touch with him,” a senior police official involved in the investigation revealed.
Naveed Hussain, brother of Abrar Hussain said, “My brother has no links with Maqbool. They knew each other earlier in the real estate business. There is no contact with him now. When we asked the local inspector he said he would be released tomorrow after questioning,”
Their father, Haji, also said that his son was not involved in any illegal activity. Another youth, one Safiuddin from Hafeez Babanagar was questioned by the police as he had allegedly helped one of the suspects in making phone calls.
An investigating official said, “Maqbool knew the four absconding suspects of Indian Mujahideen who are wanted in the cycle bomb blasts in Pune and Mumbai and are also suspected to have been involved in the Hyderabad blasts. They are Yasin Bhatkal, Tabre, Waqas and Tahseen Sheik of Bihar.”
Maqbool and Imran were questioned at the NIA office in Begumpet and they were taken to the Counter Intelligence Cell.
Meanwhile, Maharashtra, Karnataka, Kerala and Delhi police officials arrived in the city and participated in the interrogation.
Seems like its another dead end with more confusing names being outed to make it look like they are onto something.
Meanwhile we have police from four states visiting Hyderabad to sample the biryani.
Bawarchi makes a good variety if they need pointers!
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Anyone recall I had observed that the Ind Muj elements appear to be from the old Nizami districts of Hyderabad state?
The Maqbool saga shows that I was right. Ind Muj is the MIM-INC partnership for terrorism as needed for political reasons.
The Maqbool saga shows that I was right. Ind Muj is the MIM-INC partnership for terrorism as needed for political reasons.
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NSG horrified as own man talks to Pakistan spy about Hyderabad blasts
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/nsg-h ... 8SLAk.dpuf
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NSG horrified as own man talks to Pakistan spy about Hyderabad blasts
PTI : New Delhi, Mon Mar 04 2013, 20:37 hrs
PTI : New Delhi, Mon Mar 04 2013, 20:37 hrs
Counter-terror force NSG has ordered an inquiry against one of its officers for allegedly talking unauthorisedly to Pakistani intelligence officials regarding developments about the recent blasts in Hyderabad.
Sources said the officer is serving in the counter-terror unit of the 'Black Cats' force and is a Major rank officer on deputation from the Army.
National Security Guard chief Arvind Ranjan said the force headquarters has "ordered an inquiry" into the incident that happened a few days back.
Ranjan, however, said there was nothing alarming in the incident and nothing vital has been leaked during the brief talk between the NSG officer and the Pakistani, who is suspected to be an ISI agent.
A post-blasts analysis team of the NSG had flown to the Andhra Pradesh capital after the twin bombings rocked the city on February 21.
NSG sources said the officer reportedly talked about the movement of the NSG teams to the blasts venue and did not share any important clue about the trigger mechanism of the explosives that was used in the blasts in Hyderabad's Dilsukhnagar that had left 16 people dead.
It is suspected that the conversation took place over phone and security agencies running counter-intelligence detected the conversation which was later reported to the NSG headquarters here, they said.
Sources said such incidents keep happening in the intelligence and security domain and regular advisories are sent to officials to not talk randomly to un-verified people over phone, in-person, Internet or any other mode of communication.
The NSG, officials said, had also issued advisories in this regard early last month.
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Someone ask Mr. Ranjan how he suspect the Pakistani being an ISI agent. I mean really how ? Can't he be an informer. And how is this news disclosed in public domain. If he was an informer in ISI for the Major the cover is blown up now. First investigate then reveal such sensitive info rather than reducing your own credibility.Ranjan, however, said there was nothing alarming in the incident and nothing vital has been leaked during the brief talk between the NSG officer and the Pakistani, who is suspected to be an ISI agent.
Ridiculous.

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Andhra withdraws remission of terror suspect's life sentence
Hyderabad, March 4 (IANS) The Andhra Pradesh government Monday withdrew orders remitting the life sentence of Syed Maqbool, the suspected Indian Mujahideen (IM) operative, whose role in Feb 21 terror attack in Hyderabad is being probed.
Chief Minister N. Kiran Kumar Reddy signed the orders, cancelling the remission granted to Maqbool, convicted for murder, in 2009, official sources said.
Maqbool along with another alleged IM operative Imran Khan, were currently lodged in Delhi's Tihar Jail in 2012 Pune blasts case.
Earlier in the day, the National Investigation Agency (NIA) took them back to Delhi after grilling them here for four days in connection with the twin bomb blasts at Dilsukhnagar, which killed 16 people and injured over 100 others.
The chief minister took the decision after he held a high-level meeting with home minister, police chief and other senior officials.
The state government faced criticism for failing to prevent the blasts despite the admission by Maqbool and Imran after their arrest by Delhi Police in October last year they had conducted reconnaissance of Dilsukhnagar and other areas in Hyderabad to plant bombs.
There was more embarrassment to the government when it was revealed that Maqbool's life sentence was remitted by it in 2009.
A native of Nanded in Maharashtra, Maqbool was involved in the murder of a man in Nizamabad district. He was sentenced for life in 2004. He and his brother Syed Mukhtar Ahmed were among 940 prisoners, who were granted remission on Oct 2, 2009. Maqbool was even given a "good conduct" certificate by the Cherlapally Jail authorities.
After his release, Maqbool allegedly developed links with terror outfit. He is suspected to be involved in some other cases of blasts.
http://www.newstrackindia.com/newsdetai ... ence-.html
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AP police knew of IM recce
Forget headline. It has lots of details to
about
On D Day OGH found wanting
The real problem is with the Ministry of Health under whom the OGH comes under. And no where that is mentioned.
Forget headline. It has lots of details to

and about state of medical emergency room care in Osmania General Hospital.Hyderabad police knew of IM recce
Devesh K. Pandey
They were arrested four months ago by Delhi Police Special Cell in connection with last August’s Pune blasts
The Hyderabad Police had information that two suspected Indian Mujahideen members, arrested by the Delhi Police Special Cell four months ago in connection with last August’s Pune serial blasts, had revealed that they surveyed Dilsukhnagar.
The police have in the final report submitted before a city court mentioned that suspects Sayed Maqbool and Imran Khan had in July last year conducted reconnaissance of Dilsukhnagar and Begam Bazar in Hyderabad to identify a target. This, they purportedly revealed, was done at the behest of Riyaz Bhatkal, alleged to be the IM’s founder member. The court is yet to take cognisance of the final report in which charges under Section 120B (criminal conspiracy) of the Indian Penal Code, the Explosive Substances Act and the Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act were filed against the two, along with three others.
Maqbool was arrested at Shaheennagar in Hyderabad last October after the Special Cell arrested Imran and his accomplices Asad Khan, Sayed Feroz and Landge Irfan Mustafa for their alleged role in the Pune blasts. However, following the arrests the police had then told the media that two other suspected members of the outfit, Ahmed and Shakir, were at large. Their whereabouts is still not known.
After Maqbool’s arrest, the police intimated their Hyderabad counterparts about his activities there. “A police team from Hyderabad had come here to join the interrogation,” said a senior police officer. Maqbool purportedly told the interrogators that he had conducted the reconnaissance in Hyderabad and had moved there to a rented accommodation about three months before he was arrested.
Maqbool was allegedly roped into the module by Imran, whom he met in jail while serving sentence in a Nizamabad murder case. According to the police, Imran introduced him to Riyaz and his brother Iqbal Bhatkal.
The Delhi Police said Maqbool knew how to configure bombs and taught the same to the other members of the module that allegedly carried out Pune’s serial blasts to avenge the killing of suspected IM member Qateel Siddique in Pune’s Yerwada Jail by two other jail inmates on June 8 last year. The police further said Maqbool had learnt bomb-making from one Azam Ghori of Warangal, Andhra Pradesh, who was killed in a police encounter in 2000.
On D Day OGH found wanting
The real problem is with the Ministry of Health under whom the OGH comes under. And no where that is mentioned.
While one would assume that the challenge for the hospital staff would be to provide medicare to the injured, they had more to contend with
It was indeed chaos at the Osmania General Hospital (OGH) on Thursday night as ambulances brought those injured in the Dilsukhnagar blasts.
While one would assume that the challenge for the hospital staff would be to provide medicare to the injured, they had more to contend with.
For instance, the casualty wing had no water supply. There was also a shortage of ventilators, pulse-oximetry machines needed to monitor haemoglobin, defibrillators for cardiac arrests and suction apparatus required to remove vomit and fluids from the mouth of the victims.
Despite all odds, the nurses and medicos, who formed the first line of medical response in the hour of reckoning, did a tremendous job.
With the injured streaming in continuously, medical personnel at the casualty ward had to summon doctors and PG students from other wings.
“At one time, there were more than 30 injured in the ward. We were swamped. There was blood, shouting, and weeping. The influx of onlookers was too high. Not to speak of the photographers and cameramen rushing in,” recalls J. Annamma, Head Nurse of OGH.
“Despite such conditions, our nurses managed to meet the challenge head-on and extended basic treatment,” she recalled.
Incidentally, it was only on Friday evening that water supply was restored to the casualty wing.
Since 2007, there have been several attempts to re-equip the emergency department. The wing has weather-beaten and non-functional ECG machines, rickety furniture, fluctuating power supply, rusted old cots and squeaky stretchers. According to MCI norms, it is mandatory to have a minimum of 13 Casualty Medical Officers (CMO) at a facility like OGH. However, there are currently only five.
Running on full capacity
Doctors said that due to high patient inflow, as many as four operation tables in the casualty were running simultaneously on Thursday.![]()
“This led to a situation where we had to place several victims on the floor and start treating them immediately,” said Dr. Krishna, final-year postgraduate student.
As the number of injured rose, hospital authorities simply started diverting them to private hospitals.
“At one point, we even ran out of linen. It took a lot of time for the replacements to arrive due to which the patients and relatives became restive,” another medico said.
With the government promising to pay for all medical expenses, barring one or two cases, all the injured at OGH were shifted to corporate hospitals by Friday afternoon.
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^^^
There are no convictions and all these names are there for the past four years in news. They get re-hashed after every bomb blast. I hope Mulayam gives them MLA tickets in his state and that is very easy too.
There are no convictions and all these names are there for the past four years in news. They get re-hashed after every bomb blast. I hope Mulayam gives them MLA tickets in his state and that is very easy too.
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Some news of a breakthrough. An arrest in Ranchi.
One arrested in Ranchi
Breakthrough in Hyd blasts case
India Today:
Interview with DGP Reddy
One arrested in Ranchi
more details:"A man identified as Manzar Imam has been arrested," Superintendent of Police Vipul Shukla told PTI.
The National Investigation Agency (NIA) has been searching for him for the last two years in connection with the Ahmedabad blast incident too and had come twice to Ranchi's Bariatu area looking for him in the past
Breakthrough in Hyd blasts case
Most likely the threat to Mukesh Ambani got the NIA to get working and not slack off. Recall there was helicopter which was tampered with in 2009? maybe it was the same group?In what could be a major breakthrough in the recent Hyderabad twin blasts case, the National Investigation Agency (NIA) on Monday arrested a key Indian Mujahideen (IM) operative Manzar Imam from Ranchi.
Imam was a key functionary of the banned Student Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) and was involved in recruiting youth for the outfit's jehadi agenda from Bihar, Jharkhand and Bengal. Later on, Imam became a key functionary of the IM, another proscribed outfit. In New Delhi, sources said Imam and another IM operative Asadullah Haiderwere key suspects in the twin Hyderabad blasts from day one.
Imam is also wanted in a case in Kerala. Imam will also be quizzed about operatives of four IM modules in South India, suspected to be behind the latest terror offensive and the NIA will try to ascertain whether they have slipped into Pakistan after the blasts. SIMI and its offshoot IM were active in Jharkhand for more than five years and the NIA had arrested Danish Ansari, hailing from Ranchi, on June 21, 2011 from Baroda when he was travelling from Hyderabad to Ahmedabad.![]()
During his interrogation, Ansari had told the sleuths that IM was active in the State and that he had made an abortive attempt to plant a bomb at the Big Bazaar retail chain in Ranchi in 2008. An unexploded bomb was recovered from a mall that was, subsequently, defused by the police.
Ansari had also named his neighbour and jehadi aide Imam for the unsuccessful plan.Arrested SIMI leaders, including Safdar Nagori had revealed during interrogation that Ansari and Imam had participated in a SIMI training camp in Kerala in 2008.The duo also figures in the list of “most wanted” ultras prepared by the Union Home Ministry.
The NIA probe into the IM onslaught has revealed that Imam was involved in the serial bomb blasts in Mumbai and Gujarat on July 13, 2011. Since then, the agency had been on the lookout for him, but without success and had attached his ancestral property at Bariatu in Ranchi.
Inputs also suggest that Imam and Ansari had recruited at least 50 youth from the State for their jehadi agenda.
Imam is suspected to have issued a threat note in the name of IM to harm business tycoon Mukesh Ambani and his property in Mumbai if Danish Ansari was not released forthwith. The letter was hand-delivered to Ambani's office in Nariman Point in Mumbai last week. The NIA is looking into the threat note and suspects that Imam could be behind it.
India Today:
Interview with DGP Reddy
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Rji...
I found something interesting.. give me a week... i will post the results... and we can take it from there.
I found something interesting.. give me a week... i will post the results... and we can take it from there.
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From the many posts in this thread the Ind Muj(IM) are Naya-Razakars plain and simple.
Same infrastructure: MIM which was formed from Razakars! Sort of snake eating its tail
Same locale:Aurangabad, Nanded, Nizamabad, Karimnagar border districts
Same political supporters Recall Kasim Rizvi was allowed to escape to Pakistan after serving his sentence andd INC was the rulinng party even then.
Same infrastructure: MIM which was formed from Razakars! Sort of snake eating its tail
Same locale:Aurangabad, Nanded, Nizamabad, Karimnagar border districts
Same political supporters Recall Kasim Rizvi was allowed to escape to Pakistan after serving his sentence andd INC was the rulinng party even then.
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Syed Maqbool, the Indian Mujahideen operative says he will come out in 3 months!
http://www.greatandhra.com/viewnews.php ... 15&scat=16
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Hyd Blasts case is handed over to NIA.
source: Sakshi Telugu News Paper
source: Sakshi Telugu News Paper
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RamaY wrote:Rji...
I found something interesting.. give me a week... i will post the results... and we can take it from there.
Thanks. Data can be arranged inn many ways to visualize the gravity of the problem or to separate the signal from the noise. The way the DDM and GOI releases the information is more noise then signal.
For instance if you organize in concentric circles we find:
- Inner most circle is In Muj awake cells. Only sleepers are Police authorities.
- Next one is SIMI, MIM
-All this persists in an underlying miasma of INC electoral weakness
If you map the data with nodes you get something like that posted above
if its in mind map format each branch has its own sorry state
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Was the NSG spooked by ISI?
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/p ... 478910.ece
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/316 ... -info.html
Hyderabad police shared info with ISI?
http://www.deccanchronicle.com/130305/n ... d-info-isi
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/p ... 478910.ece
Arrested spy leaked critical info to ISI agent in DelhiA day after the questioning of a Home Ministry employee for having links with an alleged ISI spy, yet another suspected case of Pakistan’s intelligence service trying to break into India’s critical security network has come to light. The elite National Security Guard (NSG) has initiated an inquiry into a suspected ISI agent calling up its officer to get details of investigations into the recent twin blasts in Hyderabad.
The NSG has claimed that its officer, a Major on deputation from the Army, did not share any crucial information with the ISI agent, who had called the EPBX system at NSG’s headquarters here. Significantly, the caller, reportedly from Pakistan, who identified himself as an officer of India’s Military Intelligence unit, had asked for the Major by name and got details about the movement of the ‘Black Cats’ to Dilsukhnagar where the blasts took place. NSG sources denied sharing information about the nature of explosives or the probe with the suspected agent.![]()
As per standard operation procedure, such information cannot be shared on unsecured lines (EPBX or general exchange) and only secured lines can be used for such critical purposes and information shared only after thorough crosschecks.
{I guess movement of Black Cats and White Hats can be disclosed over open lines!!! Where did hey get his idiot source?}
But this incident has brought back to the limelight the demand by intelligence and investigative agencies to block or allow restricted use of Internet telephony, a project which is being pursued by the Department of Telecom to improve Internet penetration in the country. Indian intelligence agencies have already sounded alerts over the misuse of Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) or Internet telephony by terrorists and ISI agents from Pakistan and Pakistan-occupied Kashmir.![]()
MHA sources said security agencies have found that terrorists operating from Kashmir and Pakistan are using this technology; and with the State police and the telecom department not having the wherewithal to crack such calls, the problem is only getting aggravated. Security agencies are worried as it is difficult to ascertain the time and origin place of a VoIP call immediately. It is all the more difficult if the call is made from abroad, particularly when a call is made from an unregistered user.
Meanwhile, the Home Ministry said it has eliminated over 30 ISI-backed spy modules and 48 spies in the last three years. Since 2010 till February 2013, 31 espionage modules have been neutralised throughout the country resulting in the arrest of 38 Indians and 10 Pakistani spies.![]()
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/316 ... -info.html
Hyderabad police shared info with ISI?
http://www.deccanchronicle.com/130305/n ... d-info-isi
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Apologise, reinstate Mirza in DRDO: Katju
Press Council Chairperson Markandey Katju has demanded that the government reinstate DRDO scientist Aijaz Ahmed Mirza who was arrested on terror charges but released on bail as the National Investigation Agency did not file a charge sheet against him.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/k ... 484741.ece
Press Council Chairperson Markandey Katju has demanded that the government reinstate DRDO scientist Aijaz Ahmed Mirza who was arrested on terror charges but released on bail as the National Investigation Agency did not file a charge sheet against him.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/k ... 484741.ece
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Can anyone explain why this genius katju has to bring Karnataka CM in picture for NIA, DRDO case
In a letter written to Defence Minister A.K. Antony and Karnataka Chief Minister Jagdish Shettar, Mr. Katju said that if there is no evidence against Mr. Mirza, he should be reinstated and given adequate compensation, besides an open apology by central and state governments.
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And the even more funnier part is that this Mirza fellow was let out on bail. Sending some one out on bail, and acquiting him are two different things. Mirza chap got the bail because NIA did not file a charge sheet within 90 days.Aditya_V wrote:Can anyone explain why this genius katju has to bring Karnataka CM in picture for NIA, DRDO case
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How about applying the same yardstick to poor Sadhvi and the good Col?Sachin wrote:And the even more funnier part is that this Mirza fellow was let out on bail. Sending some one out on bail, and acquiting him are two different things. Mirza chap got the bail because NIA did not file a charge sheet within 90 days.Aditya_V wrote:Can anyone explain why this genius katju has to bring Karnataka CM in picture for NIA, DRDO case
B@@$$$#
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This "90 day bail" actually surprises me as well. Perhaps legal luminaries like chaanakya can explain. Poojaneeya Abdul Nassar Mahdani-ji was in Coimbatore Prison for 9 years as an under-trial prisoner, with no bail given. So how did the TN police etc. worked around the 90 days rule is still a mystery. So it is more like "Where there is a will, there is a way" (to put people 'inside').Sanku wrote:How about applying the same yardstick to poor Sadhvi and the good Col?
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^^
There is a difference between a under trial and detained before chargesheet. A undertrial has been chargesheeted.
The MACOCA and similar (POTA) act had longer durations of detaining without a charge sheet.
For the "saffron terrorists" even that period is elapsed, but the police keep asking Magistrate for more time and the magistrate keeps objecting but giving in.
There is a difference between a under trial and detained before chargesheet. A undertrial has been chargesheeted.
The MACOCA and similar (POTA) act had longer durations of detaining without a charge sheet.
For the "saffron terrorists" even that period is elapsed, but the police keep asking Magistrate for more time and the magistrate keeps objecting but giving in.
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An update:
Hyderabad blasts suspect caught on camera
Networking the CCTVs would be greatly helpful! and a baseline spec needs to be put out by the NTRO? so buyers would have a reference to go by
Hyderabad blasts suspect caught on camera
Networking the CCTVs would be greatly helpful! and a baseline spec needs to be put out by the NTRO? so buyers would have a reference to go by
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I have this odd feeling that the AN used for bomb blasts in India comes from TSP sources.
The reason is its brissance is very high in almost all the blasts. And the fact that its packed in Al tins/Pressure cookers etc is also significant. The reason is AN with Al powder is a high explosive. So it might very well be they are using AN(from TSP) +Al powder packed in Al containers.
So the NIA and others tear their hair trying to blame/find local sources.
The reason is its brissance is very high in almost all the blasts. And the fact that its packed in Al tins/Pressure cookers etc is also significant. The reason is AN with Al powder is a high explosive. So it might very well be they are using AN(from TSP) +Al powder packed in Al containers.
So the NIA and others tear their hair trying to blame/find local sources.
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Perhaps this may help the folks who are trying to connect the dots.
1. A chap has been picked up all the way from Ranchi in relation with the Hyderabad blasts.
2. This same chap was the master-mind who organised a SIMI training camp at Vagamon, in Kerala a few years back. KP and other agencies were after the men who organised the camp, as well as the people who attended the same. In the case in Kerala, this chap is now to be taken in as an 'approver' (NIA to turn Muhammad Manzar Imam approver).
1. A chap has been picked up all the way from Ranchi in relation with the Hyderabad blasts.
2. This same chap was the master-mind who organised a SIMI training camp at Vagamon, in Kerala a few years back. KP and other agencies were after the men who organised the camp, as well as the people who attended the same. In the case in Kerala, this chap is now to be taken in as an 'approver' (NIA to turn Muhammad Manzar Imam approver).
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- sorry wrong thread...
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Sachin, the term legal luminaries is certainly not applicable to me.
On the question of 90 days limit.
This limit is from CrPC where from the date of filing FIR police shall file Chargesheet within 90 days.
The relevant provision is Section 167
Last highlighted para contains seeds of continued detention.
Undertrial is a person who has been charged with a crime by a judicial magistrate and committed to trial by a Sessions Court. UT can be detained till trial is completed. If convicted of sentence , the period undergone as UT prisoner would be counted towards total sentence.
On the question of 90 days limit.
This limit is from CrPC where from the date of filing FIR police shall file Chargesheet within 90 days.
The relevant provision is Section 167
However Sadhvi has been booked under UAPA and MACOCA which are more stringent.
The Code of Criminal Procedure, 1973 (CrPc)
167. Procedure when investigation cannot be completed in twenty-four hours.
(1) Whenever any person is arrested and detained in custody, and it appears that the investigation cannot be completed within the period of twenty-four hours fixed by section 57, and there are grounds for believing that the accusation or information is well-founded, the officer in charge of the police station or the police officer making the investigation, if he is not below the rank of sub-inspector, shall forthwith transmit to the nearest Judicial Magistrate a copy of the entries in the diary hereinafter prescribed relating to the case, and shall at the same time forward the accused to such Magistrate.
(2) The Magistrate to whom an accused person is forwarded under this section may, whether he has or not jurisdiction to try the case, from time to time, authorise the detention of the accused in such custody as such Magistrate thinks fit, a term not exceeding fifteen days in the whole; and if he has no jurisdiction to try the case or commit it for trial, and considers further detention unnecessary, he may order the accused to be forwarded to a Magistrate having such jurisdiction:
Provided that-
1[(a) The Magistrate may authorize the detention of the accused person, otherwise than in the custody of the police, beyond the period of fifteen days, if he is satisfied that adequate grounds exist for doing so, but no Magistrate shall authorise the detention of the accused person in custody under this paragraph for a total period exceeding-
(i) Ninety days, where the investigation relates to an offence punishable with death, imprisonment for life or imprisonment for a term of not less than ten years;
(ii) Sixty days, where the investigation relates to any other offence,
And, on the expiry of the said period of ninety days, or sixty days, as the case may be, the accused person shall be released on bail if he is prepared to and does furnish bail, and every person released on bail under this sub-section shall be deemed to be to released under the provisions of Chapter XXXIII for the purposes of that Chapter;]
(b) No Magistrate shall authorize detention in any custody under this section unless the accused is produced before him;
(c) No Magistrate of the second class, not specially empowered in this behalf by the high Court, shall authorize detention in the custody of the police.
2[Explanation I. For the avoidance of doubts, it is hereby declared that, notwithstanding the expiry of the period specified in paragraph (a), the accused shall be detained in Custody so long as he does not furnish bail.]
3[Explanation II].If any question arises whether an accused person was produced before the Magistrate as required under paragraph (b), the production of the accused person may be proved by his signature on the order authorizing detention.
2[(2A) Notwithstanding, anything contained in sub-section (1) or sub-section (2), the officer in charge of the police station or the police officer making the investigation, if he is not below the rank of a sub-inspector, may, where a Judicial Magistrate is not available, transmit to the nearest Executive Magistrate, on whom the powers of a Judicial Magistrate or Metropolitan Magistrate have been conferred, a copy of the entry in the diary hereinafter prescribed relating to the case, and shall, at the same time, forward the accused to such Executive Magistrate, and thereupon such Executive Magistrate, may, lot reasons to be recorded in writing, authoress the detention of the accused person in such custody as he may think fit for a term not exceeding seven days in the aggregate; and on the expiry of the period of detention so authorized, the accused person shall be released on bail except where an order for further detention of the accused person has been made by a Magistrate competent to make such order; and, where an order for such further detention is made, the period during which the accused person was detained in custody under the orders made by an Executive Magistrate under this sub-section, shall be taken into account in computing the period specified in paragraph (a) of the proviso to sub-section (2):
Provided that before the expiry of the period aforesaid, the Executive Magistrate shall transmit to the nearest Judicial Magistrate the records of the case together with a copy of the entries in the diary relating to the case which was transmitted to him by the officer in charge of the police station or the police officer making the investigation, as the case may be.]
(3) A Magistrate authorizing under this section detention in the custody of the police shall record his reasons for so doing.
(4) Any Magistrate other than the Chief Judicial Magistrate making such order shall forward a copy of his order, with his reasons for making it, to the Chief Judicial Magistrate.
(5) If in any case triable by a Magistrate as a summons-case, the investigation is not concluded within a period of six months from the date on which the accused was arrested, the Magistrate shall make an order stopping further investigation into the offence unless the officer making the investigation satisfies the Magistrate that for special reasons and in the interests of justice the continuation of the investigation beyond the period of six months is necessary.
(6) Where any order stopping further investigation into an offence has been made under sub-section (5), the Sessions Judge may, if he is satisfied, on an application made to him or otherwise, that further investigation into the offence ought to be made, vacate the order made under sub-section (5) and direct further investigation to be made into the offence subject to such directions with regard to bail and other matters as he may specify.
Last highlighted para contains seeds of continued detention.
Undertrial is a person who has been charged with a crime by a judicial magistrate and committed to trial by a Sessions Court. UT can be detained till trial is completed. If convicted of sentence , the period undergone as UT prisoner would be counted towards total sentence.
Re: Hyderabad Bomb Blast 2/21/13
'Abu Hamza' surfaces in Bangalore module probe
Don't know about the current status of NATGRID database, but it must have a front end that is like a social website such as facebook to keep track of all these relationships between terrorists, events, places and the timelineThe 50-year-old is wanted in India for a decade now for attacks dating back to the November 21, 2002, blast at Hyderabad's Dilsukhnagar Sai Baba temple.
Re: Hyderabad Bomb Blast 2/21/13
Leaves no doubt that IM is nothing but MIM


Re: Hyderabad Bomb Blast 2/21/13
Abu Hamza, Hasif Janbaz, Asif Qazi, Bhilal etc.vasu raya wrote:'Abu Hamza' surfaces in Bangalore module probe
Don't know about the current status of NATGRID database, but it must have a front end that is like a social website such as facebook to keep track of all these relationships between terrorists, events, places and the timelineThe 50-year-old is wanted in India for a decade now for attacks dating back to the November 21, 2002, blast at Hyderabad's Dilsukhnagar Sai Baba temple.
We keep hearing similar names and we are all told that these are some dreaded terrorists. No one ever got convicted. They arrest someone and give the arrester persons a name on the similar names above.

By the way did you watch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chocolate_(2005_film)
Krishna Pundit is made super-duper ullu-ka-patte. I feel like we are all being converted to Krishna Pundit of that movie. By the way there is character called Murtaza Atrazai in that movie

I still think truth is somewhere else. The justice is not moving swiftly if the attacks are done by locals (Indians). If it is something like 26/11 then yes the speed is different.
Re: Hyderabad Bomb Blast 2/21/13
Mupalla saab, stopped believing in names with so many fake documents being bandied about and the number of aliases, we would need pictures at the least. if NIA like CBI is puppeteered by the central govt. maybe the NCTC should only be allowed if state police forces have access to the NATGRID database with first grade privileges. Also, state magistrates where the arrest happened would have to record the evidence before NIA does its own magistrate level recording. That way if say Maha police record something it can be seen by other state police even if NIA has its own version perhaps a doctored one for political gains.
Re: Hyderabad Bomb Blast 2/21/13
An update:
Police releases sketches of bicycle used in Hyderabad twin blasts
It would have been most helpful if they released this within few days of the incident.
Police releases sketches of bicycle used in Hyderabad twin blasts
It would have been most helpful if they released this within few days of the incident.
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It would be more useful if they released sketches of the bicycle rider than the blasted bike!!!
How about the tiffin box next?
How about the tiffin box next?
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Must be Hercules
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Made in England bicycle chain....the cycle was assembled using knocked down bicycle part...