Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 12 Mar 2013 08:16

shiv wrote:
anupmisra wrote: This is a one big scam to bring undeclared wealth back into the country. Pakis are falling hook line and sinker for yet another snow job.AoA.
I think it is a scam to get money out of Pakistan

No, The UAE Khan royal family have to deny the rumor ASAP before Poaqs could get loan from international banks using their credibiity. Pakis are trying to pull fast one the lenders by this fraud scheme.

partha · Post by **partha** » 12 Mar 2013 08:48

[youtube]WzLn7ifVQdU#![/youtube]

Looking at this press conference, there is something fishy about this whole thing! For a MoU worth $20B (his personal wealth estimated at $90M) investment this Kramer dude seems to have come to Pakistan alone to sign the deal. I am not ruling out Hangover part 4.

Takeaways -

1. Malik Riaz prompting Kramer dude about the "amount"

2. Kramer saying "Malik Riaz reached out to me" <-- looks like a front for some ponzi scheme benefiting both Kramer and Mallik Riaz.
3. Body language of Kramer.

This project is supposed to materialize in 5 to 10 years it seems. The situation Pakistan is in, 5 to 10 years is a long time..anything can happen in this time period from change in constitution to taliban take over to Karachi separating from Pakistan!!

Let's watch this space

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 12 Mar 2013 08:57

MHA formalities give Pakistani cyclng team a harrowing time - The Hindu

Good

The Union Home Ministry has come under fire from Pakistani sportsmen for “inconveniencing” them soon after they arrived here for an international event.

The travails of the Pakistan cycling team began even at the visa window of the Indian High Commission in Islamabad and continued unabated after a truncated and bed-raggled contingent {like the moth-eaten Pakistan ?} arrived in India.

On Sunday, the team’s bus was stopped by two persons, who looked like policemen, as soon as it left the hotel. For a full 45 minutes, the policemen kept poring over the papers till team manager Rashid Ahmad lost his temper and the men relented.

Next was a visit by policemen who informed the team that unlike participants from the other two-dozen-odd countries, the Pakistanis would have to report to the police station on a daily basis. They told Pakistan Cycling Federation president Munawar Baseer that the entire team was liable to pay a fine because the members had not reported to a police station for 48 hours.

“It is better they arrest us and take us to prison. We did not know they will reduce us to this state. If the other Ministries and departments cannot handle the Home Ministry, India should not hold international events. Sportsmen are to be treated without discrimination. They cannot single out sportspeople from one country and harass them, {Pakistanis are singled out all over the world. Why are you complaining about India ? Haven't you heard of BR Jhujar's famous toe nation theory ?} ” said Mr. Baseer who is a well-known entrepreneur and the force behind ensuring funds were available to field a full men’s team and a token representation in the women’s section by a paraplegic teenager.

The teenager, Anam Mehmood, who was to be accompanied by her mother, and two senior cyclists could not make it as they were denied visas. Worse, a coach was also not given visa, making it impossible for the team to take part in one of the two main sections.

Mr. Baseer, a former national champion in cycling, had additional reasons to feel humiliated. He had come to India thrice in the last two years. And never has he had to suffer the ignominy of reporting on a daily basis to the police station.

Although the Asian Cycling Championship started here on March 4 with jersey checks and other formalities, Mr. Baseer’s plan to ensure his country’s full participation was pole-axed by the Home Ministry from the beginning.

Till March 8, the contingent was cooling its heels in Islamabad waiting for a visa. According to South Block sources, part of the delay was caused by a rival federation claiming to be the legitimate federation.

Finally, intervention by Cycling Federation of India president and politician Parminder Singh Dhindsa spurred Home Ministry mandarins in the Islamabad High Commission to inform the team and its managers that the visas were ready.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 12 Mar 2013 09:00

partha wrote:The situation Pakistan is in, 5 to 10 years is a long time..anything can happen in this time period from change in constitution to taliban take over to Karachi separating from Pakistan!!

Or, Pakistan itself being obliterated.

Rajdeep · Post by **Rajdeep** » 12 Mar 2013 09:07

Hey I recognize this Kramer guy from an American reality show , seems like a ponzi scheme unfolding. Riyaz will cash out his check and flee poakland when he gets his monies and the oven starts getting too hot to bake.

Oh and the german creep has been arrested for sexual assaults according to some site , involving young boy and a nanny

Code: Select all

http://absurdtosublime.net/2012/11/18/thomas-kramer-arrested-for-sexual-assaults/

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 12 Mar 2013 09:15

Iran-Pakistan ignore US, Launch gas pipeline - Anita Joshua, The Hindu

The long-pending Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline project inched closer to reality on Monday with the launch its final phase under which a 781-km-long pipeline would be laid on the Pakistan side of the border. To run from Iran’s border to Nawabshah in Sindh, the pipeline’s construction was inaugurated in the Iranian port city of Chabahar by the Presidents of the two countries.

Signalling the importance that Pakistan attaches to the pipeline despite reservations expressed by the U.S., President Asif Ali Zardari took along with him a 300-strong delegation. Though several heads of state had been invited, reports from Chabahar point to a no-show.“The completion of the pipeline is in the interest of peace, security and progress of the two countries. It will consolidate the economic, political and security ties of the two nations,” said the Presidents in a joint statement.

Addressing the gathering, Mr. Zardari said the pipeline was crucial for the development of the neighbours. As for U.S. reservations , Pakistan Foreign Office has been maintaining that the country was not in a fix over the threat of sanctions for doing business with Iran.

“It is in our national interest to go ahead with this project as Pakistan is an energy-deficient country. We have seen reports regarding U.S. concerns, but we hope that all our friends including Washington will show more understanding on this issue,” a Foreign Office spokesman said to questions regarding the threat of sanctions.

‘Determination’

According to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the ‘Peace Pipeline’ {How is it still called a 'Peace Pipeline' when India is no longer part of it ?} was the symbol of the determination of the two nations to resist domination. Stating that the pipeline could be extended to the north of Pakistan, {for connectivity to China through KKH ?} he flagged the fact that the project was going ahead despite U.S. sanctions against Iran’s oil and gas sector because of Tehran’s nuclear programme.

The 900 km Iran-leg of the pipeline has been constructed but Pakistan could not get its end started owing to financing problems and the fear of sanctions. It got kick-started only after Iran agreed to chip in. Construction on the $1.5-billion pipeline is expected to be completed by December 2014. Iran is to supply 21.5 million cubic metres of gas from its biggest gas field in South Pars to Nawabshah — the hub of Pakistan’s gas pipelines in Sindh — on a daily basis..

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 12 Mar 2013 09:24

Separate voters list for Ahmadis: Court summons AG over discrimination complaint
Jewahmadi

SLAMABAD: The Supreme Court made known on Monday its intention to take a decision, in the light of constitutional provisions and principles laid down in the 1993 Zaheeruddin case verdict, on a complaint that the election procedures discriminate against the Ahmadi community.A bench comprising Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry, Justice Gulzar Ahmed and Justice Sheikh Azmat Saeed was hearing a petition against an amendment to the election rules decreed by Gen Pervez Musharraf in 2002 that effectively declared ‘non-Muslim’ a candidate who, if his faith was challenged, refused to sign a declaration regarding his belief that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was the last of the prophets.Petitioner Kanwar Idrees said a separate electoral list for Ahmadis was an insult meant to exclude them from the mainstream. Gen (retd) Musharraf had promulgated the Chief Executive Order 15 of 2002, inserting Articles 7B and 7C into the Conduct of General Elections Order, 2002.Article 7B asks to keep unchanged the status of Ahmadis but Article 7C suggests deletion of the name from the joint electoral rolls of a person who refuses to sign the declaration.The name then should be added to a supplementary list of voters in the same electoral area as non-Muslim, the law says.The court said the issue was very sensitive and required an in-depth study for which it also summoned Attorney General Irfan Qadir on the next date of hearing.It suggested deciding the case in the light of Article 260(3) of the Constitution which included the Qadiani or Lahori group in the definition of non-Muslims.The court will also consider Section 298C of the Pakistan Penal Code (PPC) which was added to the law book under the Prohibition and Punishment Ordinance of 1984, in addition to the principles laid down in the Zaheeruddin case verdict.The 1993 Supreme Court judgment had barred people belonging to the Ahmadi community from calling their worship place ‘masjid’ or reciting Azan.Advocate Munir Paracha and the Election Commission’s Additional Director General (Legal) Abdur Rehman emphasised the need for legislation to amend the list but said inclusion of names in the supplementary electorate rolls did not affect their right to vote for general seats.The chief justice said the Second Amendment to the Constitution had been introduced by the late prime minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, declaring Ahmadis as non-Muslim, and the court could not undo the constitutional command.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 12 Mar 2013 09:26

I think this whole tall building in Karachi is a saazish (cons-pee-racy) by massa.
Massa is planning a payback for what the ISI did to its buildings in its financial center.

In Pakistan's case, before massa can repay the favour, massa has to help them build the building first.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 12 Mar 2013 09:45

The reporter-ni is a country bumpkin in that Kramer / Malik Riaz video.
She is ispeeking and asking questions in full pinglish.

She is asking what facility is being "put in the building"

Malik Riaz is selling an idea exactly like a ponzi scheme con artist. He is building a tower in the air.
Their target is overseas pakis and rich netas and jagirdars. These pakis are as yet unexposed to most of the ponzi and con-jobs. The only thing that abduls in Pakistan are capable of / heard about are burning minorities' houses to capture land.

Riaz says "Pakistan can become Europe or America or Dubai in two years"
Hmm where have we heard this before hain ji?
Oho! Hazrat Zaid Hamid (Piss be upon him) promising that in 6 months pakis will be on the moon and the world's faisle will be taken in Pakistan.

sadhana · Post by **sadhana** » 12 Mar 2013 10:17

If you want some pure joy, listen to Pakistanis themselves argue against the very arguments their RAPE class used to justify killing Indians anywhere anytime, for the last 20 years (If they have been somewhat quiet on the India jihad justification front for some time, be sure they will get back to it in a Kerry/Hagel heartbeat

)

http://www.pakpolitics.org/faisla-awaam ... fc14a.html

It is in Urdu. The main argument is about how Pakistani killers are so upset about greatest enemy Umrika and Pak policy wrt Afghanistan that they have killed many Pakistanis in pure and honest reaction, so pliss talk to them and butter them up and give them what they want. The RAPE participants are going no no no no

nachiket · Post by **nachiket** » 12 Mar 2013 10:37

SSridhar wrote: Till March 8, the contingent was cooling its heels in Islamabad waiting for a visa. According to South Block sources, part of the delay was caused by a rival federation claiming to be the legitimate federation.

You can't make this $hit up. Of course, this was also, somehow the fault of evil yindoos.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 12 Mar 2013 10:58

What if they start a fake cycling team, call it a cycling federation, get Indian visas and spread Pakistaniyat here?

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 12 Mar 2013 18:00

Someone needs to give these pakis a lesson in basic arithmetic. First it was PKR 15 Billion = $15 Billion. Now PKR 690 Million = $69 Million. Like someone said, what's a kuffar zero here or there. Its all in the mind. Lalaland wants parity in US$ and PKR.

Losses from ‘war on terror’ climb to Rs 690 million

Pakistan has suffered a loss of $69 million on war against terrorism...

kish · Post by **kish** » 12 Mar 2013 19:22

Jhujar wrote:
kish wrote:“Some top leaders of the N-League, including Malik Riaz (local MNA) led the procession. On Friday night, another local PML-N leader came and had banners put up against blasphemy,” he points upwards to freshly put up cloth banners saying ‘The penalty of blasphemy is only beheading’, the report said.
halla, is a merciful god. The only offerings he accepts is the head of kafirs, which the faithfools offer in plenty. malsi is religion of peace only
The man who has put up the banner is a Kaffir. How dare he not mention that beheading must be done after reciting a special prayer over the head of victim. The man has not only denied the Muslim God's mercy to the soon to be decapiated man but also the Tradition Of Islamic Love ,Eternal Truth (TOILET) . No true Malsian will ever do this.

wow. Iam going to remember that for a long time.

you mean to say pakisatan is full of TOILET. Muzlims of Indian subcontinent got themselves a TOILET.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 12 Mar 2013 19:28

Pakistan needs investment of $150 billion by 2020

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan High Commissioner to Singapore, Syed Hasan Javed invites the Singapore investors to invest in Pakistan, saying that Pakistan needs an investment of US$150 billion by 2020 in its various sectors such as real estate and construction, energy, logistics and infrastructure, as well as hotel and tourism facilities.

Javed stated that Pakistan will be able to mobilize one-third of the needed investment through its own resources. An equal amount is being offered by investment companies from China, Turkey, Gulf States, Korea and Japan, after which Pakistan will seek assistance from the World Bank, Asian Development Bank, Islamic Development Bank, Sovereign Wealth Funds, Bilateral Donors and Commercial Institutions for the remaining funds.

Singapore investors are welcome to harness the potential projects, with the most promising rate of return, Mr Javed said, adding that Pakistan has been identified as among the next 11 rising emerging economies. The country allows full repatriation of equity, dividend and profit and foreign investment is fully protected under the Constitution.

He also mentioned Pakistan has already attracted investment from 100 new Multinational companies over the past five years, while the number keeps growing given the potential of the economy.

kish · Post by **kish** » 12 Mar 2013 19:38

Meanwhile a normal day in pakistan, just a couple of people got killed here and there.

But, the third link has a letter the editor written by a paki. It contains information which is an insult to izlam.

[url=httpxxx://www.newstrackindia.com/newsdetails/2013 ... bing-.html]Two policemen killed, 18 injured in Pakistan bombing[/url]

A suicide bomber Tuesday rammed his explosives-laden motorbike into a police mobile unit van in Pakistan's northwest tribal region, killing two policemen and injuring 18 other people, a media report said.

[url=httpxxx://tribune.com.pk/story/519488/paan-shop-targeted-karachi-bomb-blast-kills-two/]Paan shop targeted: Karachi bomb blast kills two[/url]

A Muttahida Qaumi Movement worker and his teenage son were killed and about a dozen people were wounded in a bomb explosion in the Landhi neighbourhood of Karachi on Monday.

[url=httpxxx://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-11-164796-Open-wounds]Open wounds[/url]

The Joseph Colony incident in Lahore is yet another black day in the history of the country. No moral, religious or legal code in the world would allow such blatant and arbitrary acts of violence. What is even worse is that this was an act that could have easily been averted had the police been competent enough.

Black is the color of holii kaaaba, it is a holi color. Everyday in pakisatan should be a black day. Every paki should wish for the same.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 12 Mar 2013 19:38

SSridhar wrote: According to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the ‘Peace Pipeline’ {How is it still called a 'Peace Pipeline' when India is no longer part of it ?} was the symbol of the determination of the two nations to resist domination. Stating that the pipeline could be extended to the north of Pakistan, {for connectivity to China through KKH ?} he flagged the fact that the project was going ahead despite U.S. sanctions against Iran’s oil and gas sector because of Tehran’s nuclear programme.

SSji,
It is still a peace pipeline because it is between Shia-Iran and Sunni-Pakistan. It doesn't matter, even if it is just between Lalmasjid to Rawalpindi, it will a peace pipeline. What flows in it is open for discussion.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 12 Mar 2013 20:19

Ulema issue joint declaration after meeting with Shahbaz

LAHORE: At a meeting held under the chairmanship of Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif with Ulema and Mashaikh on Sunday night, the following joint declaration was issued unanimously. “Islam is a religion of peace and it provides protection of life and property and dignity to all persons living in the society regardless of their caste, colour or creed.

“In an Islamic state, it is the duty of all the Muslims, especially the state, to ensure protection of life and property and dignity of non-Muslim citizens. “The foremost right which every non-Muslim has under an Islamic government and society is the right of protection.

“The Holy Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) said that no person had the right to kill any non-Muslim citizen without any justification and if any Muslim killed any non-Muslim without any reason, Jannat would be declared Haraam for him by Allah.

“The Holy Prophet (PBUH) had further said that if any person committed cruelty against a minority person or usurped his right or inflicted unbearable pain or took anything away from him without his consent, he would fight on his behalf against the Muslims on the Day of Judgment.

“The participants of the meeting are united and unanimous in vigorously condemning anti-Islamic and anti-Pakistan elements. We agree with the stance taken by Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif and Punjab government against this propaganda and equally share the grief of the Christian brethren.”

The meeting emphasized strict punishment under the law should be ensured to the person committed blasphemy against the Holy Prophet (PBUH) which was the basic cause of the incident so that no person could ever commit such unholy act in future.

The meeting stressed that the elements which indulged in terrorism and set the properties of minorities on fire or looted their belongings must be awarded deterrent punishment under the law to restore the image of Islam and its followers besides the message could be sent to international community that Muslims, especially Pakistanis, are peace-loving. The representative meeting emphasized that the forthcoming Friday (March 15) should be observed as ‘Yaum-e-Rawadari.’

May piss be upon Pakistan.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 12 Mar 2013 20:37

Apparently

"The Holy Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) said that no person had the right to kill any non-Muslim citizen without any justification and if any Muslim killed any non-Muslim without any reason, Jannat would be declared Haraam for him by Allah."

I hope the people who kill minorities have good reason. Like the minorities being kuffars and wajibull cutlet and so on.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 12 Mar 2013 20:49

SSridhar wrote:MHA formalities give Pakistani cyclng team a harrowing time - The Hindu

unlike participants from the other two-dozen-odd countries, the Pakistanis would have to report to the police station on a daily basis.[/b]

“It is better they arrest us and take us to prison." said Mr. Baseer

Now THAT is a brilliant idea. Every visiting pakistani should book a prison for stay instead of a hotel. I think its a win-win solution for everyone. We can even give them option to choose on the visa application. Hell I can start prisonadvisor.com.pk similar to tripadvisor.com. Pakistanis can give their reviews and stars.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 12 Mar 2013 20:52

pankajs wrote:“The Holy Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) said that no person had the right to kill any non-Muslim citizen without any justification and if any Muslim killed any non-Muslim without any reason"

What the prophet of Islam said was that there are some legitimate reasons for killing non Muslims.

This is well known and those mullahs are farting out the usual crap we have heard forever.

Islam allows and encourages the killing of non Muslims. That is the basic problem with Islam. The prophet does not come down to say who needs to be killed and who should be spared. Some smartass mullah or his half wit chela makes the decision to kill and says "It is Ok. Our prophet said xyz is a good reason to kill. All normal in a day's work in Islam.

This is such well known boring ho hum stuff that the only surprise is why this is not openly spoken about in inter state relations and in that impotent napunsak body United Nations.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 12 Mar 2013 21:04

I am ready to start a 5 star prison ...

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 12 Mar 2013 21:06

Gagan wrote:I think this whole tall building in Karachi is a saazish (cons-pee-racy) by massa.
Massa is planning a payback for what the ISI did to its buildings in its financial center.

In Pakistan's case, before massa can repay the favour, massa has to help them build the building first.

Perhaps more precautions are needed to take care of any problems coming from there. At least better surveillance and coastal security perhaps?

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 12 Mar 2013 21:23

Taliban start their election campaign with a bang
[url=xxxhttp://dawn.com/2013/03/12/gunmen-kill-district-election-commissioner-in-quetta/]Gunmen kill district election commissioner in Quetta[/url]

Muhammad Tariq, the Superintendent of Police in Quetta said two armed gunmen riding a motorcycle opened fire at the vehicle of Muhammad Ziaullah Qasmi, the District Election Commissioner for Quetta district, in the Munir Mengal road area of the city.

Tariq said Qasmi initially sustained serious wounds, receiving eight bullets to the body.

rajanb · Post by **rajanb** » 12 Mar 2013 21:25

pankajs wrote:Ulema issue joint declaration after meeting with Shahbaz
LAHORE: At a meeting held under the chairmanship of Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif with Ulema and Mashaikh on Sunday night, the following joint declaration was issued unanimously. “Islam is a religion of peace and it provides protection of life and property and dignity to all persons living in the society regardless of their caste, colour or creed.

“In an Islamic state, it is the duty of all the Muslims, especially the state, to ensure protection of life and property and dignity of non-Muslim citizens. “The foremost right which every non-Muslim has under an Islamic government and society is the right of protection.
“The Holy Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) said that no person had the right to kill any non-Muslim citizen without any justification and if any Muslim killed any non-Muslim without any reason, Jannat would be declared Haraam for him by Allah.

“The Holy Prophet (PBUH) had further said that if any person committed cruelty against a minority person or usurped his right or inflicted unbearable pain or took anything away from him without his consent, he would fight on his behalf against the Muslims on the Day of Judgment.
“The participants of the meeting are united and unanimous in vigorously condemning anti-Islamic and anti-Pakistan elements. We agree with the stance taken by Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif and Punjab government against this propaganda and equally share the grief of the Christian brethren.”

The meeting emphasized strict punishment under the law should be ensured to the person committed blasphemy against the Holy Prophet (PBUH) which was the basic cause of the incident so that no person could ever commit such unholy act in future.

The meeting stressed that the elements which indulged in terrorism and set the properties of minorities on fire or looted their belongings must be awarded deterrent punishment under the law to restore the image of Islam and its followers besides the message could be sent to international community that Muslims, especially Pakistanis, are peace-loving. The representative meeting emphasized that the forthcoming Friday (March 15) should be observed as ‘Yaum-e-Rawadari.’
May piss be upon Pakistan.

Is Jannat actually the dessert of our Arapian four fathers? That is why we don't listen and are content with our piss in Pakistan

arun · Post by **arun** » 12 Mar 2013 21:39

X Posted from the Islamism News and Analyses thread.

In a display of one of the more medieval practices of the Mohammadden religion, a Uniformed Jihadi of the Army of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan gets stoned to death for attempting to elope:

Man Reportedly Stoned To Death In Pakistan

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 12 Mar 2013 21:41

="rajanb“The Holy Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) said that no person had the right to kill any non-Muslim citizen without any justification and if any Muslim killed any non-Muslim without any reason, Jannat would be declared Haraam for him by Allah.
“The Holy Prophet (PBUH) had further said that if any person committed cruelty against a minority person or usurped his right or inflicted unbearable pain or took anything away from him without his consent, he would fight on his behalf against the Muslims on the Day of Judgment.

“must be awarded deterrent punishment under the law to restore the image of Islam and its followers besides the message could be sent to international community that Muslims, especially Pakistanis, are peace-loving. The representative meeting emphasized that the forthcoming Friday (March 15) should be observed as ‘Yaum-e-Rawadari.’May piss be upon Pakistan.
Is Jannat actually the dessert of our Arapian four fathers? That is why we don't listen.

Mullahs do good Foreplay in caressing the holy words of Four- Fathers. Jannat Ka Fanda for tasting the Hoors and Suck the Pindlioyn Ka Guuda is the essence of whole Islamist Panga and Danga . But No Paki enjoy the Hoori Pindlyon Ka Gudda unless in this world they lick, taste and clean the Forefather Ki Gudda

Jannat Kaa Jhagra, En Poaqers Ne Pakra
Among the Four Fathers
One was Pig,One Doggy, One Khotta
The Most Senior among Them was Arapi Bakra .

member_22872 · Post by **member_22872** » 12 Mar 2013 21:56

The Holy Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) said that no person had the right to kill any non-Muslim citizen without any justification and if any Muslim killed any non-Muslim without any reason

List of Killings Ordered or Supported by Muhammad

like for examble:
Kill the Jewish poet Abu Afak for opposing Muhammad through poetry

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 12 Mar 2013 22:25

Yet another staging of the play "Waiting for G@@du"

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2013/03 ... um=twitter

Former president and All Pakistan Muslim League (APML) Chief General (Retd) Pervez Musharraf has unveiled his decision to return to Pakistan on March 24.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 12 Mar 2013 22:36

saravana wrote:Yet another staging of the play "Waiting for G@@du"

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2013/03 ... um=twitter
Former president and All Pakistan Muslim League (APML) Chief General (Retd) Pervez Musharraf has unveiled his decision to return to Pakistan on March 24.

Did he say which year?

BijuShet · Post by **BijuShet** » 12 Mar 2013 22:50

My observations after recently finishing reading up on George Orwell's Animal Farm:

The original commandments were:
1.Whatever goes upon two legs is an enemy.
2.Whatever goes upon four legs, or has wings, is a friend.
3.No animal shall wear clothes.
4.No animal shall sleep in a bed.
5.No animal shall drink alcohol.
6.No animal shall kill any other animal.
7.All animals are equal.

After years of manipulation, violence, killings and eventual take over of the Farm by the Pigs the new commandments :
the changes made in the early years:
4 No animal shall sleep in a bed with sheets.
5 No animal shall drink alcohol to excess.
6 No animal shall kill any other animal without cause.

Few years later when pigs learnt to walk on 2 legs:
1) & 2) "Four legs good, two legs better!"

Eventually many years later when pigs dressed and behaved like humans
7) "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"

Now co-relate the story of Animal Farm to todays TSP starting from 1947 and see how the new masters of TSP will eventually make peace with India and then dress, do business and behave exactly like India. For them it is all about getting to the seat of power by eliminating all other contenders within their borders.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 12 Mar 2013 23:06

Three and a half Ahmadis and a Shia
Pakistam Ki Kasam" Na Kafar, Na Shia Na Ahmadi : Qital Karenge Subb Hum

I was a school going kid then. I probably would have never known what faith this family followed, if there hadn’t been a weekly ijtema in that room. The gathering itself did not arouse any interest in me, as I belonged to a Shia family, similar gatherings were part of my sub-culture too. I was actually attracted to the projector that they used to show certain films. I can now guess that those must be of one of their religious leaders.My fascination was reserved for that buzzing machine and my inquiry from an elder about that machine and those films and gatherings helped me know, and remember, that they believed in some different faith. So the first Ahmadi I ever met was a regular guy from next door. I had no reason to hate him or for even respond to him differently in any way. We left that house in June 1973. The second amendment to the constitution, declaring Ahmadis as non-Muslims, was passed later in 1974.I joined an arts college in Lahore in the early 1980s. I used to live in the college hostel. It was a no-holds-barred life filled with non-stop fun. It took our batch just a few weeks to gel together. We did crazy things that would stretch our relationships to unimaginable extremes.Once we were going somewhere together. His house fell in our way and he wanted to briefly stop over for something. I thought I would have a glass of water and wait in his baithak till he is free. To my utter surprise he hesitated allowing me inside his home. I was a bit disturbed but then pushed my way in, as would a close friend.As I sipped the juice and looked around the room, I saw the reason for his hesitation hung on the wall. But why would he hide it from a close friend with whom he has shared so much. When he entered the room, I was standing in front of that picture. Are you an Ahmadi? I asked. Yes, he said with his head hanging down. The picture was of one of their religious leaders.
One day I was stopped at the campus gate and informed that the university had been closed down because a student scuffle had taken a life. I knew the backdoor ways well and also that no shut down applied on those well armed parties. I could not locate the person I intended to meet and went on to inquire from another. I was shocked to learn that he was the person who had been killed.I could never know in my interactions that he was an Ahmadi, this secrecy had become a part of their sub-culture by now.But the killers knew who he was.This is how the story narrated by my other friends went. Jamiat wanted the campus to shut down.Blood on the campus walls was the time-tested way to ensure a shut down but how to manage it without inciting a furious response from the other party? Simple. Slay an Ahmadi.Nobody will come to defend him. No gunman will return fire. Nobody will take out a protest rally. No official condolences.That’s exactly what had happened. haven’t met an Ahmadi since the past decade. I know of a few but we don’t meet. They have cocooned themselves inside their skins, hid their identities and barricaded their lives inside their homes. They have killed half of their beings. How can you befriend a person who is half dead?I go past a graveyard daily on my way from home to the office. I noticed recently that its boundary walls have been raised and topped with thick spirals of barbed wires. An armed chowkidar now sits at the front gate – to protect the dead? I realise that this is an Ahmadi graveyard. Maybe my murdered friend was buried here and maybe his killers apprehend that he is still half alive.

member_23252 · Post by **member_23252** » 12 Mar 2013 23:39

Porki media specially the western controlled went all Hog to cover the recent riots against Christians in Lahore.
Here in India it seems either owing to strong censure from Sonia and Co. or the fact that monetary incentives were not that lucrative due to which mainstream media compeltely ignored the simailar attacks against Hindus in WB.

partha · Post by **partha** » 13 Mar 2013 01:57

AoA! It is quite possible that "people of Abbas town" being referred to here are Shias who themselves are being slaughtered. Taking hatred to an all new level.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 13 Mar 2013 05:48

Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline: In snub to US, China offers $500m loan

CheenaMeenaKeema: Denial Coming Tomorrow orr Unkil Light up the Balochistan

The United States has made clear its strong stand against the Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline – but the first world power will perhaps be further irritated to hear that China is backing it with a $500 million loan to Pakistan.“In a major development, China has offered [the] loan,” an official at the Pakistan Embassy in Iran told The Express Tribune. The remaining $500 million would be generated through the Gas Infrastructure Development Cess from gas consumers.Pakistan had earlier planned to generate the billion dollars through the tax and Iran will be putting in $500 million.The geopolitical sands appear to be shifting on more than one front as this development comes days after Pakistan handed over to China control of its key Gwadar port in Balochistan.The board of directors at the Interstate Gas Systems met March 8 to consider awarding the contract for the pipelines and compressors to Chinese company Panyn Chu King Steel Limited that will provide the pipeline at the rate of $1,650 per tonne, including compressors. The board will be negotiating for discounts with the Chinese firm.Meanwhile, an Iranian company had quoted the price of $1,980 per tonne. An official said that Iranian contract prices would be turned down because they are higher

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 13 Mar 2013 06:41

venug wrote:
The Holy Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) said that no person had the right to kill any non-Muslim citizen without any justification and if any Muslim killed any non-Muslim without any reason
List of Killings Ordered or Supported by Muhammad

like for examble:
Kill the Jewish poet Abu Afak for opposing Muhammad through poetry

Once a Turkish Islamist explained such assassinations to me. He said that in those days and especially in Arab society, poets and bards were like the media and the historians combined. If the wind carried a verse and it was on people's tongues, it would become the truth of the times, and if it was especially impressive, it became history. Thus, verses ridiculing or casting doubt on the Prophet were seen as the most serious attack on God's Mission (to make all of Arabia Mohammedan). Therefore, the Prophet's ordering the assassinations of poets, poetesses, etc. is to be seen clinically as attacks on a malicious mainstream media or history writers. Interestingly, he himself, like several other Turkish Islamists in the US, was a History Pee chudee, and his American advisor used to call them "my ghazis".

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 13 Mar 2013 07:29

Carl wrote: like for examble:
Kill the Jewish poet Abu Afak for opposing Muhammad through poetry
Once a Turkish Islamist explained such assassinations to me. He said that in those days and especially in Arab society, poets and bards were like the media and the historians combined. If the wind carried a verse and it was on people's tongues, it would become the truth of the times, and if it was especially impressive, it became history. Thus, verses ridiculing or casting doubt on the Prophet were seen as the most serious attack on God's Mission (to make all of Arabia Mohammedan). Therefore, the Prophet's ordering the assassinations of poets, poetesses, etc. is to be seen clinically as attacks on a malicious mainstream media or history writers. Interestingly, he himself, like several other Turkish Islamists in the US, was a History Pee chudee, and his American advisor used to call them "my ghazis".

Carlji this explanation by the Turki Islamist rings hollow. Mohammad who dictated whole quran could have made up better poems about his god no? How come he could not make (or get someone to make) more powerful poetry than those female poets? Poems that would become history and change everyone's mind. So this poetry=truth is as much bullshit in Mohammad's time as it is in OIT thread veda=praise poetry crap. Calling poetry and songs as having some great effect is bullshit that has been launched by one guy called Calvert Watkins. Google for a book called "How to Kill a Dragon"

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 13 Mar 2013 09:27

^^^ shiv ji,

Just reporting what I was told...gives an idea of how it is justified by supporters.

Rohit_K · Post by **Rohit_K** » 13 Mar 2013 09:58

During the recent carnage in Lahore, a pet parrot died - image

And this received 10 likes on FB

Rohit_K · Post by **Rohit_K** » 13 Mar 2013 09:58

Meanwhile, just another day in Karachi..

Three cops among 10 killed in Karachi attacks

Four Cops Killed in Two Attacks