Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

rajkumar · Post by **rajkumar** » 16 Mar 2013 20:50

Vipin_Upadhyay wrote:Live speech now, started with awesome video presentation.

Youtube live viewers crossed 2400 for the first time on IndiaToday channel.

Any links...

Kamal_raj · Post by **Kamal_raj** » 16 Mar 2013 20:52

Any links please

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 16 Mar 2013 20:53

http://www.narendramodi.in/liveevent/16 ... index.html

Watch from here

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 16 Mar 2013 20:53

He is facking awesome.....seriously moi very kush onlee. I keep telling you he will be remembered for his vision and inspiration. The foreigners in the audience are happy and laughing too....

rajithn · Post by **rajithn** » 16 Mar 2013 20:59

Om NaMo Namayah:

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 16 Mar 2013 21:19

Solar panels over canals is novel, wouldn't water cause some corrosion/rust problems?

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 16 Mar 2013 21:22

Awesome or what.... this one too will be remembered and much discussed, re-tweeted, analyzed and copied...

Just look at topics he spoke - Solid Waste Mgmt, fertilizers, subsidy, Agriculture, Canals,Governance now railways.

Modi is one by one faulting all central schemes.

Vipin_Upadhyay · Post by **Vipin_Upadhyay** » 16 Mar 2013 21:23

SwamyG it could cause corrosion...but saving land is important in a country with billion+ population

rajithn · Post by **rajithn** » 16 Mar 2013 21:23

SwamyG wrote:Solar panels over canals is novel, wouldn't water cause some corrosion/rust problems?

He has already done it. Its not just a proposal. Humidity in the air could but anti corrosion science today will take care of it.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 16 Mar 2013 21:23

The last statement is great. I gave good advises and PM is happy. But there needs a real good person in that state.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 16 Mar 2013 21:28

OK, this is the first speech of NM I saw/heard in entirety. He is one of the most intelligent and articulate politician in India, ever.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 16 Mar 2013 21:31

The audience is not bored at all, just like us. Man he pushes all the right buttons for me. Vision, ideas, mindset, pride, positive attitude, ityadi.......

Note bi milla vote bi milla.........

Vashishtha · Post by **Vashishtha** » 16 Mar 2013 21:33

Amazing speech as usual...

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 16 Mar 2013 21:48

Beautiful answer, exact answer about party organization and intra party election to choose its leader.

I know the solar panels over canals is not a proposal....I was wondering about the long term affects.

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 16 Mar 2013 21:51

rajithn wrote:
SwamyG wrote:Solar panels over canals is novel, wouldn't water cause some corrosion/rust problems?
He has already done it. Its not just a proposal. Humidity in the air could but anti corrosion science today will take care of it.

When I was new to BRF and collaborating with Theo ji on Solar ideas, I had once mentioned how the whole of Indian ocean is available for basically muphat. If only some of you engineers could figure out something. See had you guys accepted my suggestion you could have been a hopeful yourself for just such an abhinandan.

Apparently Namo did one better he jacked up the RE around his solar plants too.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 16 Mar 2013 22:02

Excellent answer to secularism question. Everybody needs protection. Not just minorities.

rajithn · Post by **rajithn** » 16 Mar 2013 22:03

ravi_g wrote: He has already done it. Its not just a proposal. Humidity in the air could but anti corrosion

Apparently Namo did one better he jacked up the RE around his solar plants too.

The problem with oceans is the high salinity content in the air. But with fresh water canals, not so much.

P.S: What i like about the man's articulation is the way he goes on to explain sustainability in his solutions: solar panels providing energy, thus saving land, thus saving water evaporation, thus providing cold water that generates more energy! I salute him.

negi · Post by **negi** » 16 Mar 2013 22:13

Well we don't even need to go down to those details as a CM he is not the one responsible for doing the feasibility analysis for solar panels over water bodies; that is the job of the Engineers on site and the advisors who work with the CM . Modi is actually a karma-yogi unlike the napunsak Oxbridge graduated chamcha at the center who despite being given the opportunity to run the country for 2 terms has ghanta to show and instead has the temerity to sing praises about British rule and thousands of kms of road they built during their rule; if he had an iota of shame in him he could have overseen construction of some hundred kms of national highways but then that is too much to ask from the shikhandi; 'theek hain'.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 16 Mar 2013 22:15

He should have answered the 2002 question.

Vipin_Upadhyay · Post by **Vipin_Upadhyay** » 16 Mar 2013 22:20

he should have simply said about 2002 something like this---

"More people have died in road accidents in India since 2002, if these media crooks had campaigned against Road accidents they could have saved many lives. Nobody is blaming Assam CM for riots there."

God, I hate these DIE media. I desperately need to become one of the media advisors of Modi. He need all the help available to counter DIEs.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 16 Mar 2013 22:23

He did not fall into traps. That is good part. I think the questions around 2002, Pakistan and China are traps. He did not fall into them. For some jingoes the answers to questions about military might, handling Pakistan and China will be disappointing as the answers does not have punch.

He showed for the first time some equal=equal secular stuff when he proposed a train connecting Shia religious places. Generally he does not do.

Added later:
Had he answered to the liking of certain jingo constituencies, IMHO that will be used to change his development+governance agenda build up he trying to do. However, it can be compared to WKKism by his detractors and also the jingoistic crowd.

The secular build up (especially during speech) is a new feature.

negi · Post by **negi** » 16 Mar 2013 22:24

Media or no media Modi aint coming to power in 2014 ; by and large we are still a third world country in true sense we can't even elect right people at the top so it will be either the current lappu jhalla or the chootiyanandan coke-head who allegedly went to Harvard.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 16 Mar 2013 22:25

Muppalla wrote:Watch India Today conclave today (India time 16th 8pm) NaMo is going to address.

http://www.narendramodi.in/cm-to-addres ... arch-2013/

A must watch for both Modi fans as well as Modi non-believers, for they are Bharatiyas.

This speech and presentation covers many threads we have been discussion, Strategi leadership, alternative budget scenarios, Bharatiya thread and Indian interests.

Personally I am very proud to learn that NM has been doing the ideas I presented in my alternative scenarios on the ground.

My gut feeling is right. At the right time he is going to reach out women, employees, farmers, businessmen and every focus group and will win over them. Alliances and partners are not required for Modi.

This speech is addressed towards govt employees and businessmen.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 16 Mar 2013 22:26

A simple answer would be he is sad at every human's death, and that it was unfortunate the riots happened and he did the best.

All in all another good performance, and opportunity to articulate his vision and ideas. Good questions, nicely done by all.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 16 Mar 2013 22:27

SwamyG wrote:He should have answered the 2002 question.

Nope. He shouldn't and should never.

The scam of 2002 keeps enemies of India together and Bharatiyas need to know them by person.

disha · Post by **disha** » 16 Mar 2013 22:28

SwamyG wrote:Beautiful answer, exact answer about party organization and intra party election to choose its leader.

I know the solar panels over canals is not a proposal....I was wondering about the long term affects.

Does aluminium rust? Think and you have your answer.

Vipin_Upadhyay · Post by **Vipin_Upadhyay** » 16 Mar 2013 22:29

Muppalla wrote: He showed for the first time some equal=equal secular stuff when he proposed a train connecting Shia religious places. Generally he does not do.

I don't think that was an Equal=equal. He was talking about Indian pilgrimage places & not pakistan.

Ajmer is also one of the most visited places along with Kumbh, Haridwar etc. & it's India. He has already made it clear much before this conclave that He is TRUE secular & his definition of secularism is INDIA FIRST.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 16 Mar 2013 22:30

^^^^
Any well intentioned answer is all that is needed for a new breaking news. He did right by skipping 2002. For example, he said many poor people come to Gujarat for rozi-roti and hence our stats of above poverty line are not growing. Immediately, HT has put a banner saying Modi blames immigrants.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 16 Mar 2013 22:32

Traps or not, a leader has to go through fire. In any organization, there are people who become the go-to guys in their chosen fields. They are not given easy questions, they are given tough questions. That is how they contribute by solving tough questions and problems. A good batsman does not hit sixes own half volleys and full tosses alone, converting a potential yorker into six is the hallmark of a good batsmen.

When were Rahul, Sonia or MMS asked such interesting tough questions. The tougher the questions, the more the traps it means Modi is being tweaked and molded by fire.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 16 Mar 2013 22:33

SwamyG wrote:Traps or not, a leader has to go through fire. In any organization, there are people who become the go-to guys in their chosen fields. They are not given easy questions, they are given tough questions. That is how they contribute by solving tough questions and problems. A good batsman does not hit sixes own half volleys and full tosses alone, converting a potential yorker into six is the hallmark of a good batsmen.

When were Rahul, Sonia or MMS asked such interesting tough questions. The tougher the questions, the more the traps it means Modi is being tweaked and molded by fire.

He is not a true leader and BJP is still searching for one.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 16 Mar 2013 22:33

RamaY wrote:
SwamyG wrote:He should have answered the 2002 question.
Nope. He shouldn't and should never.

The scam of 2002 keeps enemies of India together and Bharatiyas need to know them by person.

Let us agree to disagree, we are not going to convince each other.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 16 Mar 2013 22:36

Vipin_Upadhyay wrote: I don't think that was an Equal=equal. He was talking about Indian pilgrimage places & not pakistan.

Ajmer is also one of the most visited places along with Kumbh, Haridwar etc. & it's India. He has already made it clear much before this conclave that He is TRUE secular & his definition of secularism is INDIA FIRST.

I think BRF is going through impatience and also not trying to look into context.

Here the context is Modi. He is the one person who even rejected chadar and Mullah topi. Never attended iftar etc. That is the image he maintained. Talking a Muslim pilgrimage train is a change from his own past postures. That is all I am saying. I did not try to say what is secular and what is not secular.

Added later:
One more thing, he did say a train connecting Goa churches. He did do an equal=equal.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 16 Mar 2013 22:37

No, SwamiG is right he should have just said he did his best in 2002. They have nothing against him except 2002 and he should blunt it. He said the right thing about China & Pak. At this moment there is nothing on these two that will bring in the votes. What he does when he becomes PM or if he becomes PM is different. This speech is directed at the elites so that they back him. BTW, he gave indications he will privatize the railways and defense - a long term demand on BRF.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 16 Mar 2013 22:37

I don't think he will be confrontational with China. On the subject of Information Age and India being at top when ever gyaan was important, he could have sneaked in that information in the form of Buddhism flowed from India to China. Yeh dil maange more onlee....

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 16 Mar 2013 22:41

Vipin_Upadhyay wrote:
Muppalla wrote: He showed for the first time some equal=equal secular stuff when he proposed a train connecting Shia religious places. Generally he does not do.
I don't think that was an Equal=equal. He was talking about Indian pilgrimage places & not pakistan.

Ajmer is also one of the most visited places along with Kumbh, Haridwar etc. & it's India. He has already made it clear much before this conclave that He is TRUE secular & his definition of secularism is INDIA FIRST.

+1.

My Modi Bhai is reminding Muslims and Christians to be Bharatiyas. Not to prostrate to some pedophile anti-Bharatiya organizations.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 16 Mar 2013 22:43

Supratik wrote:No, SwamiG is right he should have just said he did his best in 2002. They have nothing against him except 2002 and he should blunt it. He said the right thing about China & Pak. At this moment there is nothing on these two that will bring in the votes. What he does when he becomes PM or if he becomes PM is different. This speech is directed at the elites so that they back him. BTW, he gave indications he will privatize the railways and defense - a long term demand on BRF.

NM need not do anything for media or dhimmis or secular fundamentalists.

2002 is not some earth shattering this that needs an answer. Every person who thinks it is some important issue is a dhimmi to boot.

2002 is a mental slavery that unites anti-national Indians. 2002 is India's Secular Malsi.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 16 Mar 2013 22:44

RamaY wrote: +1.

My Modi Bhai is reminding Muslims and Christians to be Bharatiyas. Not to prostrate to some pedophile anti-Bharatiya organizations.

Let us see how it will be twisted in the core circles.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 16 Mar 2013 22:48

RamaY wrote: NM need not do anything for media or dhimmis or secular fundamentalists.

2002 is not some earth shattering this that needs an answer. Every person who thinks it is some important issue is a dhimmi to boot.

2002 is a mental slavery that unites anti-national Indians. 2002 is India's Secular Malsi.

As I said they have nothing against him except 2002. So they are going to bring it up again and again. His answer should be directed at the 1 billion voters. You or I don't need to be convinced. It is the aam admi who needs to be convinced who may not have the information or intelligence to dissect propaganda from reality. He should take the bull by the horns and say that Supreme Court cleared him and he did his best.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 16 Mar 2013 22:55

Not wearing a Muslim topi is a personal decision; having the idea of trains for pilgrimage and creating them is a public decision. I don't like brinjal and I would not eat it, but my parents live it like crazy and I buy dozens of kilos for them because I care and love them. So does a rajah or leader. So did Rama send Sita to forest for the sake of his subjects.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 16 Mar 2013 22:59

Moi thinks he answers the 2002 question the way he does because it benefits him. Such a shrewd man could easily answer the way we want, he kind of keeps it alive.