Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 02 Apr 2013 22:55

May be disgust got the better of being safe.

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 02 Apr 2013 22:59

mahadevbhu wrote:how the fk can a respected econoist be soooooo neck deep into political commentary.

this is career suicide in the US.

Economics has always been completely intertwined with politics and that is the situation very much in the US as far as I am aware. Can you provide any examples of the 'career suicide' that you talk about ?

See this for example: Economists For Romney

In fact, I find the idea that applied economics can be discussed without reference to politics quite absurd.

member_20292 · Post by **member_20292** » 02 Apr 2013 23:06

anyways,.......if i were an academic. even if i was a member of the bjp, i would try not to make statements like the above.

my 2 INR.

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 02 Apr 2013 23:15

mahadevbhu wrote:anyways,.......if i were an academic. even if i was a member of the bjp, i would try not to make statements like the above.

my 2 INR.

He has a responsibility to the nation and he's fulfilling it. Goes beyond silly notions of political correctness...

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 02 Apr 2013 23:15

member_23629 · Post by **member_23629** » 02 Apr 2013 23:32

mahadevbhu wrote:saw the ndtv work by nidhi razdan smriti irani and all.

quite shrill on all sides. surprisingly decent nidhi razdan performance. smriti was also good. swapan.

Mani shankar aiyar and the lady aarti someone was smiling away like cheshire cats in disdain......quite silly and undignified.

Just saw the show. Arti Jayrath and Mani Shankar Aiyar kept grinning throughout for no rhyme or reason, as if they were watching a Charlie Chaplin show. Both looked quite stupid and infantile. Smriti Irani and Swapana Dasgupta took the pants off them with their arguments. Nice to see the BJP people hit back at the NDTV anchors.

Jayrath and Aiyar are clearly Macaulay products, turning up their nose at common people who they consider unwashed. Dasgupta said as much to Aiyar.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 02 Apr 2013 23:35

The most catching one for Baba's Bhashan

Con-gress ka Batera
Leader and Lootera
Ek Pecent Tera
99% Mera.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 02 Apr 2013 23:39

Just in case you thought that Modi is shying away from K elections. As of yet total 8 meetings have already been decided.

pentaiah · Post by **pentaiah** » 02 Apr 2013 23:47

Amma Zindabad
She does some gimmicks to be one up on Blues Brothers
But he corruption is minuscule compared to gongi goons
If it suits congis wiil bring back Robert Clive thinking he is relative of Robert vadera

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 03 Apr 2013 00:47

Sushupti wrote:Just in case you thought that Modi is shying away from K elections. As of yet total 8 meetings have already been decided.

Hopefully he helps garner enough votes so we can keep Karnataka saffron. He will probably continue with the india first and development mantra. It's hard to imagine that his public meetings wont be packed to capacity. I believe this is his first real political thrust into the South.

member_22539 · Post by **member_22539** » 03 Apr 2013 00:47

ramana wrote:Arun Menon and Chandragupta, I would refrain from calling women female dogs. it shows lack of respect and fosters similar attitudes.
And more over I had to edit half a dozen posts that others quoted you. Dont use that language again.

And other don't follow the wrong path and quote thsoe spots and make admin life difficult.
And those with sensitive attitudes who feel like reporting get a life!
Geez the number of reports in GDF is getting too high. The idea of GDF was to be able to be themsleves within reason.

Every time I visit the GDF is red allover instead of being read.

Apologies to those who I might have inadvertently offended. All the same, I would like to explain that I do not consider these creatures women, nor do I even consider then human. Just because one walks on two legs and talks, one cannot be called a man or a woman.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 03 Apr 2013 01:00

RoyG wrote:
Sushupti wrote:Just in case you thought that Modi is shying away from K elections. As of yet total 8 meetings have already been decided.

Hopefully he helps garner enough votes so we can keep Karnataka saffron. He will probably continue with the india first and development mantra. It's hard to imagine that his public meetings wont be packed to capacity. I believe this is his first real political thrust into the South.

Just highlight Chalukya meme

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 Apr 2013 02:09

Arun, It might be your personal view but it does not reflect reality and it encourages bandwagoning. So please desist in future.

Thanks,ramana

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 03 Apr 2013 03:28

Headlines today debate: Modi's puppet Lokayukta

http://headlinestoday.intoday.in/progra ... 60398.html

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 03 Apr 2013 16:33

WHY NARENDRA MODI CAN BE PM?

http://centreright.in/2013/04/why-naren ... VwPbBe7IR0

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 03 Apr 2013 16:57

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 03 Apr 2013 17:29

^^^^

http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... e#p1431818

The socialist license raj path taken by Nehru was followed by Burma too. Guess where that fellow was educated?
When during key formative years, the time when as young men, your opinions, moral values and outlook are formed, you spend it abroad, how the hell do you understand the aspirations and needs of millions of fellow Indians? The environment is not the same, the language is not the same, the society is not the same, the social circle is not the same, the kind of people whom you look up to and form or derive your opinions on, are not the same - every single aspect of your life is totally disconnected from Indians and yet this guy walks into a highest office in the country.
Compare that with NM. Local boy. Unleashes the innate INdian spirit of hard work,entrepreneurship , that thing of turning stuff into wealth- what we have been doing for 1000s of years.
It is easy to dismiss posts here as "blaming everything on the British without taking responsibility" - but one must realize how deep we have gone into this stupidity. The six Indian "rithou"s are now replaced by 4 Europeans seasons. Well, that is just one of 1000s of years of observations and deductions discarded into the dustbin.

Good good good. We are slowly moving towards things we were once good at.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 03 Apr 2013 17:43

A Comment

My driver who is a Maharashtrian told me the other day, upon returning from his village in interior Mah, which is reeling under drought, entire village is praying that Modi becomes PM. This is happening all over the country and Congi and Paidmedia know this; thats why methinks the (Congi) lady protests too much!
Millions of Indians are waiting for the day Modi becomes PM.

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 03 Apr 2013 18:03

mahadevbhu wrote:anyways,.......if i were an academic. even if i was a member of the bjp, i would try not to make statements like the above.

my 2 INR.

Kautilya was an Academic. Would that be problematic?

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RoyG tried to find the link for you, yesternight. But don't know how to locate these. Good job though. Undie is a great paisa wasool these days.

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Jhujar ji, great slogan.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 03 Apr 2013 21:02

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 04 Apr 2013 01:53

INNOVATE OR PERISH
The Congress party has lost the market.
By N.V. Subramanian (3 April 2013)

New Delhi: The Congress party is like the big pharmaceutical companies. They won’t lay stress on invention or innovation but plough huge resources into advertizing and marketing to evergreen expiring patents. Manmohan Singh is well past his sell-by date. But Sonia Gandhi’s Congress party wants him for a third term after the general elections which may be held later this year. The plan will go kaput and the party will be hurt worse for the future than reckoned.

Rahul Gandhi is not prepared to be the Congress’s prime minister candidate. His mother who has maximum say in this matter has given up on him. More than once, she has said it is for him to decide. He prefers to remain peripherally involved in politics and to sound nice about strengthening the Congress party. The party does not know what to make of him and takes his homilies as timepass.

The Congress is not returning to power. But the party has to work the best-case options. One of them is that Rahul Gandhi gets to lead an all-Congress government at the Centre or even a third United Progressive Alliance administration. The belief is that the Gandhi surname will ensure unity while Rahul would be so out of depth that loot can be carried out as in these nine years of Manmohan Singh. {IMHO, this is why Doggyraja wants RG to be the PM; so he can have a say without responsibility}

If Rahul is hesitant to become prime minister for fear of being trapped in a scandal like his father, the present model of an ultra-loyalist as nominated head of government could be continued. The obvious choices for that are P.Chidambaram, Digvijay Singh and Jairam Ramesh. They are, however, unknown quantities. Would they be the sort of titular prime minister to Sonia Gandhi that Manmohan Singh has been? She does not know. Her son has even less understanding of such matters. So what is the safe solution? Back Manmohan Singh for the third term. True to his character, Manmohan Singh has indicated his readiness.

Making Manmohan Singh prime minister candidate evacuates Rahul Gandhi from an electoral battle with Narendra Modi, the most likely PM choice of the Bharatiya Janata Party. In the impossible case that the Congress comes back, Manmohan Singh can always be eased out to make way for Rahul Gandhi. This may tactically appear a win-win situation for the Congress party. But it is a strategic disaster.

People are fed up of Manmohan Singh. They want him to disappear from public life. Industry does not believe his reassurances about a return to high growth. The model of two power centres, one headed by Sonia Gandhi as the Congress president and the other supervised by Manmohan Singh as the nominated prime minister, has failed. Digvijay Singh boldly said so but has been silenced by the party. But the country realizes that India needs a strong prime minister and not a puppet. It is not going to vote for Manmohan Singh a third time.

But the dependence on Manmohan Singh also shows up the fear factor. Rahul Gandhi is not inclined to face Narendra Modi in a direct contest for prime-ministership. What does it tell? That Rahul Gandhi is afraid of Modi? The Congress party won’t accept or advertize that. That Rahul Gandhi is scared of failing, which would ruin his future bid for prime-ministership? Again an issue the party cannot dwell upon. But they are bound to surface if the Nehru-Gandhis use Manmohan Singh as a shield -- and a battered one.

To resurrect the big pharma example, the more outsized a company grows, the greater rents it seeks from its patents. It spends more money on marketing and on lawyers and in corrupting doctors than on innovation and R and D. The innovations then begin to happen in small-and-medium pharma companies which do not enjoy comparable legal and government protection. And so old companies attrite and new ones surge ahead. The Congress party has been in power too long to succeed any more. It has lost the market. It has no innovational leader to get back in the game.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 04 Apr 2013 02:43

Madhu Kishwar ‏@madhukishwar 3h
For those upset with 4 modi namas- this is just the beginning buddies- abhi to yeh angdayi hai...Will start Gujarat Nama soon.

She is killing the Fiberals with her modinama. No wonder burnol is disappearing from shelves very fast in Delhi..

Yayavar · Post by **Yayavar** » 04 Apr 2013 03:45

^^it is quite a read. Read the 1st one.
One wonders what stopped other journalists from taking this step earlier and validating? Is it only now that the tide is turning that there is an environment where such articles can be published - though this is helping quite a lot. It is very nicely done. Even the lallu MB comes out as a Modi supporter or appreciator

.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 04 Apr 2013 04:23

Salaam Kijiye Rahul Baba, Sonya .MMS Ayye Hain
On the Secular Netas and Vote Bank politics
Todin NREGA/ Ration schemes etc from Old days
Hamari Vote Khaide gey Hum Ko Ann de Kar
Nange Jism Chuppa dete hai Kafan De Kar
hamara Haal pey Likhne Qitab Aaaye hai ( shittlewad)

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 04 Apr 2013 04:41

Anti-Modi IPS officer rewarded by Cons

New Delhi, April 3: A former Gujarat cadre IPS allegedly hounded by the Narendra Modi government has been appointed an adviser in the Union home ministry.

Kuldeep Sharma had stood up to chief minister Modi and his protégé, state home minister Amit Shah, sources said. The retired officer’s appointment comes days after Modi was inducted into the BJP parliamentary board and Shah, charged in the Sohrabuddin fake encounter case, made national general secretary.

“Sharma’s mandate will be mainly to advise the ministry on police modernisation,” a source said today.

Sharma will seek to tap into his experience as the director-general of Bureau of Police Research and Development, a post he was given in Delhi after he left Gujarat, in his current assignment.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1130404/j ... Vy60aLmGVo

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 04 Apr 2013 04:43

Advani praises socialist icon

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1130404/j ... Vy8KKLmGVo

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 04 Apr 2013 04:57

I suspect he is being blackmailed with something more than just disproportionate asset case. My guess would be his middle eastern-ISI funding of SP post Babri demolition. This connection was mentioned by one ex spy with last name Dhar. Same was indicated by Beni Verma when he called him terrorist.

Mulayam warmth for BJP bothers party, Minority vote murmurs rise

New Delhi, April 3: Samajwadi Party workers and office-bearers are upset with boss Mulayam Singh Yadav for repeatedly insinuating he is prepared to shed his old animosity towards the BJP.

“Mulayam Singhji’s utterances are ill-timed and potentially damaging. He has to look back at recent history to remember how a mildly pro-BJP suggestion can destroy our poll prospects,” a middle-ranking party official said.

The note of caution came hours after Mulayam was seen praising the founder of the Jan Sangh, the BJP’s parent, making it the second occasion in over a month when he signalled a warm-up towards the party.

Mulayam was addressing a media conference in Lucknow today, after meeting district Samajwadi presidents, when he was asked how he regarded L.K. Advani’s “praise” of his socialist mentor Ram Manohar Lohia.

Advani, who had made the comments at a working committee meeting of the Uttar Pradesh BJP in Chitrakoot earlier in the day, did not exactly “praise” Lohia. He spoke of how in the 1960s, Jan Sangh ideologue Deen Dayal Upadhyaya and Lohia had agreed on the notion of an India-Pakistan confederation.

Advani recalled that when he was a journalist with the RSS weekly Organiser, Lohia had told him Muslims were under an impression that if the Jan Sangh came to power, it would “conquer” Pakistan and conjoin it with India.

Advani said he had told the socialist he was “mistaken” and ought to meet Upadhayaya. Upadhayaya told Lohia a confederation could come into being only when Muslims in Pakistan agreed that their nation’s creation was a “historical mistake”.

Mulayam’s answer was: “What is wrong if somebody praises a great person? Those who have done good, or are doing good, should be appreciated.”

Samajwadi sources said there would have been no scope for “misinterpretation” had Mulayam stopped at this. But Mulayam went on to applaud Jan Sangh founder Shyamaprosad Mookerjea as a “great leader and a great personality”. He quickly balanced his appreciation of Mookerjea with a shower of praise for Nehru and said nobody ought to dabble in politics while referring to great leaders.

The comment was seen by some as the emergence of a pattern. In the first leg of the budget session, after the BJP backed him in his spat with Union minister Beni Prasad Verma who labelled Mulayam a “terrorist and a goonda”, the Samajwadi chief had walked up to Advani in the Lok Sabha and thanked him.

The gesture was politically loaded because it was made on a day Sonia Gandhi went up to Mulayam and apologised for Verma’s outbursts by thrice folding her hands.

Advani later privately told Mulayam that he ought to advise his son and chief minister Akhilesh Yadav to get a fix on law and order, like the BJP’s Kalyan Singh had when he ruled the state.

BJP sources said what was an off-record chat was publicised by Mulayam in an open meeting. He described Advani as the country’s “tallest leader” and claimed since he never spoke a lie, his advice should be seriously considered.

Within hours, senior Samajwadi minister and the party’s best-known Muslim face, Azam Khan, brought up Advani’s “role” in the Babri demolition and the fact that he was chargesheeted in a case that awaits trial. Khan suggested that such a person didn’t deserve to be called a “tall” leader.

Samajwadi sources said Mulayam’s comments had “deeply disturbed” the party’s Muslim leaders as well as those who had voted for it in last year’s state elections.

Sources agreed the statements could be part of Mulayam’s “tactics to grandstand against the Congress” but pointed to the pitfalls.

“It’s his way of scaring the Congress that critically needs our support (in Parliament). In the process, he may be shooting himself in the foot. Muslims are Uttar Pradesh’s most politically aware people. They study each word a leader speaks, each move he makes. As it is, (Narendra) Modi’s projection might force Muslims to rally behind the Congress and not the Samajwadi to stop the BJP from coming to power,” a source said.

Mulayam’s repeated allegations that the Congress allegedly unleashes the CBI on its allies to rein them in when necessary also does not elicit the sympathy he seeks to gain, said the source.

“The fact is that he and his family members have a case of disproportionate assets that is with the Supreme Court. People we meet say those who have done wrong must be punished. Nobody sees Mulayam as a victim,” the source said.

In 2009, Mulayam had paid for seeking Kalyan’s hand in the elections, losing Muslim votes to the Congress. His Samajwadi colleagues wonder if history is about to repeat itself in 2014.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1130404/j ... Vy8haLmGVo

nachiket · Post by **nachiket** » 04 Apr 2013 05:20

RajeshA wrote:A Comment

My driver who is a Maharashtrian told me the other day, upon returning from his village in interior Mah, which is reeling under drought, entire village is praying that Modi becomes PM. This is happening all over the country and Congi and Paidmedia know this; thats why methinks the (Congi) lady protests too much!
Millions of Indians are waiting for the day Modi becomes PM.

Unfortunately (in this case), we don't have a presidential form of government. Let's just hope these people praying for Modi know what to do when the elections arrive, and vote for the right party (which may not necessarily be the BJP in their area, it could be an ally), even though the opposing candidate might offer more doles or be of their own caste.
Modi's popularity will mean naught if the BJP as a whole and their allies don't win more votes and constituencies than their adversaries, which is what it ultimately boils down to. We'll have to wait and see if the common voter is ready for such national level thinking while casting his/her vote.

The people on this thread who support only Modi, while deriding the BJP's other top leaders and accuse them of being some sort of fifth column, should keep this in mind as well.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 04 Apr 2013 06:11

Muppala garu

You promissed me a strategy for NM to get simple majority.

Thanks

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 04 Apr 2013 06:59

RamaY wrote:Muppala garu

You promissed me a strategy for NM to get simple majority.

Thanks

I will once I get some decent thinkable time.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 04 Apr 2013 07:05

Thx sir.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 04 Apr 2013 10:29

Sheila rubbishes Modi's model of development

Questioning Modi's development agenda, she said if he wants to ensure proper development, he should follow the model of participatory democracy being implemented by her government

Yup, the same participation that shunglu and CWG reports indicated (and indicted) her gubment for, eh? All this gassing from low-level low-esteem low-IQ low-lives in the INC camp is to somehow, anyhow tag NaMo as being at their level by association. Only. Now on, INC strat is to have low-level lowlives (as opposed to high-level high-livings like cabinet mantris) spew venom on NM in public statements - IMO.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 04 Apr 2013 10:44

^^^

Someone needs to tell her, "Delhi is not Gujarat. "

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 04 Apr 2013 10:49

MSY is doing the iNC bidding , he deliberately tied with Kalyan singh to make sure the Minority votes go to INC in 2009 rather than being split. without his help and a divided minority vote could mean BJP gains significantly in UP from its present tally.

VikramS · Post by **VikramS** » 04 Apr 2013 11:28

After #RahulDay #PappuCII is trending

Even MacaulayPutri had a Freudian Slip.

Sagarika Ghose ‏@sagarikaghose 15m
The fumble for written notes took something away from the speech, for me #pappucii

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 04 Apr 2013 11:45

Rahul addresses CII, Modi goes to FICCI as India Inc becomes poll battleground

After Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Congress vice-president Rahul Gandhi addressing India Inc, it is going to be Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi's turn to share his vision to bring the nation's economy back on track.

Modi is all set to address a Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce and Industry (FICCI) gathering next week following the interactions of the prime minister and the Gandhi scion with the Confederation of Indian Industry (CII).

Wow, moi thought. Where from these newfound b@lls among 'em industry fede-rations only, living as they do on sarkari rations only.... well, here's the answer...

Modi's address would, however, be restricted to the women's wing of FICCI on April 8. He would speak on topic "Unleash the entrepreneur within: Exploring new avenues".

I see, so while amul baby talsk to the men, apna sher has to make do talking to the wopmen's wing. But, never worry, it is women who are the backbone of any society and of any impending change....

anmol · Post by **anmol** » 04 Apr 2013 11:57

member_22539 · Post by **member_22539** » 04 Apr 2013 12:49

"Rani ki Jhansi," sounds like something dirty. He is lucky she is long dead or would have gotten a tight slap on his Amul baby face.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 04 Apr 2013 13:53

Over 200 RSS Swayamsevaks have been murdered in Kerala by Communist/Marxist and Islamic extremists. Recently a Communist leader gave an open declaration for killing RSS workers.

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 04 Apr 2013 14:06

Wall Street Journal India gets it right this time: Rahul Gandhi Speech Hits Some Dud Notes

Mr. Gandhi took two questions from the floor – something he rarely does – but his meandering answers did little to provide solutions.

One participant asked a question about water usage in India. Mr. Gandhi used this as a launch-pad to talk about the complexity of India and how businessmen should “embrace” this – supposedly rather than complaining about unclear rules and a venal bureaucracy.

At one point, Mr. Gandhi re-enacted an encounter he had with the secretary of China’s prime minister (whom he didn’t name).

Mr. Gandhi dragged a participant on to stage to play the part of the secretary. He squeezed the man’s hand – as he said he had done to the Chinese official – telling him this is how China applies pressure to get things done.

Then he hugged the man in an embrace – again a re-enactment – to show India’s softer approach.

“Boss, our environment is not simple, we cannot give you simple answers,” he said he told the Chinese secretary. “There is no complexity in China.”

This was clearly pre-planned theater aimed to show Mr. Gandhi’s lighter side. But it was also unintentionally comic.

Hilarious.....

On Twitter, reaction to the speech was mixed. The hashtag #PappuCII was trending after the speech. “Pappu” is a Hindi word that means a naïve person and CII refers to the organization that hosted the speech.