Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 07 Apr 2013 22:49

anmol wrote:Is he doing Good Cop(Advani) Bad Cop (Modi) routine ? Earlier it was Atal who was good cop and Advani was bad cop

Partially.

member_23629 · Post by **member_23629** » 07 Apr 2013 22:51

RoyG wrote:Ramachandran Guha drone at his best. On a more important note...Karan should lose the bow tie. He looks ridiculous.

http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/383779/bet ... -guha.html

These deracinated Indians mimic the Whites -- bow tie is his way of showing how he has risen above other Indians by following White Man's fashions of the 50s. Next time he will come wearing a Charles Dickens hat.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 07 Apr 2013 22:54

disha wrote: The rest is posturing. So IMO LKA is not wrong in saying that a. He is proud of the Ayodhya movement. It brought to light the fact that there indeed was a glorious temple under the defunct 'masjid'. It also showed the politicking happening with India's history. b. He is indeed sad, it could be because of either point 3 above or point 1-3 above.

Disha ji, I agree. There is also a far more prosaic reason:

The official statement of the ENTIRE BJP/VHP top brass including the PURE variety in SUPREME COURT OF INDIA is that --

they are very sorry that the Babri structure fell they were not expecting that, it was a shock. Things went beyond their control.

Why is that?

Because Supreme court allowed a limited Kar Seva under express undertaking by people like Advani and ABV that this was merely a symbolic puja and shilanyas and nothing would be distrubed.'

If Advani et al say anything else -- the entire BJP/VHP/RSS would be behind bars before you can say "jai shri ram". You can kiss Modi, SSC and entire non congress option good bye for next 60 years.

This would be redux of what happened after N Godse.
Hindus using their head once in a while and not behaving like having to relive the legacy of heros of yore is not a bad thing.

The friends of BJP who express their support so loudly seem to be unaware of some basic facts. Where is the hit head on the wall icon.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 07 Apr 2013 23:01

SwamyG wrote:
Sanku wrote:
As I said before the problem with BJP is precisely friends like these. Who needs enemies?
Sanku ji , it is well wishers of the country who are talking here no. A good friend is one who helps his friend correctly, by not keeping quiet all the time. He raises concerned and valid questions. He cannot be dismissed by some cliches, just because the friend does not think along similar lines.

Swamy Saar, you get me wrong. I am not dismissing them. I am saying that this very mindset of needing to have BJP to be gold or bust needs to be changed.

This very mindset is a deep problem. Fanne ji said

fanne wrote:BJP does not have a choice to be a party with a difference with a Gold Leader (a Sliver leader will not cut it, even when compared to Cong $hit). If it is that, India and destiny beacons it.

Hindu's need to get rid of this mindset ASAP.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 07 Apr 2013 23:06

For those folks who are new to posts here. I am some one who has been saying that BJP should return to "overt" Hindutva position a very long time back.

However, the Hindu society is not absolved of the blame if BJP wants to take soft Hinduvta as a position and the Hindus then ditch BJP because they cant see what is happening.

But my appeal to return to a strong Hindutva platform was NOT based on the fact that Hindu society is not getting the soft Hindutva plank, it based on other reasons. At the same time, I fully understand why a soft Hinduvta approach was taken, because that the was maximum tjat could be done while balancing other constraints.

Also I do not see Modi as a strong Hindutva proponent, he may be in his views (I can believe it since he refers to such statements regularly) -- but as a Politician he is "panth nirpeksha"

India can not sustain panth nirpekshata in my view. It will die. It is dying.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 08 Apr 2013 00:02

Sanku wrote:These are precisely the sort of friends of BJP which lead to such mess.

As I said before the problem with BJP is precisely friends like these. Who needs enemies?

Sanku ji,

I think there has been a certain social brainwashing of Hindus with a continous propaganda that Hindus and Hinduism are morally, culturally and militarily inferior. This has caused a reaction among Hindus that they try to show that it is NOT THE CASE, that Sanatan Dharma teaches man to have the highest of standards, and so they have gone to the other extreme, tried to show themselves as PERFECT, and developed an expectation of MORAL PERFECTION from their co-travelers. Since that is seldom realizable, we Hindus have become prone to quick disappointment, in fact become self-rejectionists.

I think this is one reason, why many have decided to move away from BJP.

Those who want to destroy Bharat, vote for those who show corruptive and anti-national tendency and of such there are many. Destruction is easy. Those who want to build Bharat, have decided they will vote only for those Bharatiyas who can build it perfectly, otherwise they'll punish the imperfect Bharatiyas.

Quite sad in fact!

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 08 Apr 2013 00:06

I humbly remind that this hair splitting is the hallmark of dhimmitude, a "moral" justification for inaction.

The action is to defeat congress-system, secularism and this very dhimmitude.

The Satya/Truth comes in many forms - Saraswati, Lakshmi, Parvati, Kaali, Durga and even Chinnamasta

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 08 Apr 2013 00:55

RoyG wrote:Ramachandran Guha drone at his best. On a more important note...Karan should lose the bow tie. He looks ridiculous.

http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/383779/bet ... -guha.html

Every time PAPPU comes out and ridiculed, the CON DIEnasty dogs get on to TV to proclaim neither is worthy of PM.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 08 Apr 2013 01:13

RajeshA wrote:
Sanku ji,

I think there has been a certain social brainwashing of Hindus with a continous propaganda that Hindus and Hinduism are morally, culturally and militarily inferior. This has caused a reaction among Hindus that they try to show that it is NOT THE CASE, that Sanatan Dharma teaches man to have the highest of standards, and so they have gone to the other extreme, tried to show themselves as PERFECT, and developed an expectation of MORAL PERFECTION from their co-travelers. Since that is seldom realizable, we Hindus have become prone to quick disappointment, in fact become self-rejectionists.

I think this is one reason, why many have decided to move away from BJP.

Those who want to destroy Bharat, vote for those who show corruptive and anti-national tendency and of such there are many. Destruction is easy. Those who want to build Bharat, have decided they will vote only for those Bharatiyas who can build it perfectly, otherwise they'll punish the imperfect Bharatiyas.

Quite sad in fact!

RajeshA ji, I can not agree more. Moving it to good posts thread.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 08 Apr 2013 01:24

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... ium=tweets

Aligarh Muslim University Students Union president says he was suspended for refusing to join Congress

Aligarh Muslim University Students' Union (AMUSU) president Shahzad Alam on Sunday alleged he was suspended a day before at the behest of the Congress after he refused to join the party.

Alam claimed vice-chancellor Zameer Ud din Shah had asked him to join the Congress ahead of Union minister Jitin Prasada's AMU visit on Friday. "Since the president (Alam) refused to join the party, the vice-chancellor with Prasada and the Congress's consent suspended him on the day of the minister's arrival,'' an AMUSU press release said. The AMUSU urged the administration to publicize the CCTV footage of Alam's meeting with Shah as evidence.

Alam said Shah had earlier in February pressurised him not to oppose Congress chief Sonia Gandhi's visit to AMU. He accused Shah of "misusing the University for fulfilling the Congress agenda ahead of the Lok Sabha polls''. Alam said he had evidence that it was being done for "the requirements of Sonia and her son Rahul Gandhi''.

He questioned whether Shah was AMUSU patron or a Congress "mouthpiece" and why only Congress leaders were invited to the University.

The AMUSU accused Shah of "malign(ing) the sanctified image of the varsity''. It said he had been asking its office bearers to join the Congress to further "his vested interest''.

But AMU public relations officer Rahat Abrar rubbished Alam's allegations and said he has a long record of indiscipline for which he had been repeatedly warned. "He was suspended for his unruly behaviour and disrupting a function in Prasada's presence while the national anthem and the University tarana were being played,'' he said. He said Alam was first warned on February 28 that his "unlawful activities and breach of discipline'' were unbecoming as a student and an AMUSA officer bearer.

Abrar said he had earlier led a "violent mob that attacked Shah's car'' on March 23. "Prasada had nothing to do with what the AMUSU is alleging and that he was in Aligarh to launch a website, release a journal and inaugurate a Badminton Hall.''

Inclusive India ...

JohnTitor · Post by **JohnTitor** » 08 Apr 2013 01:42

kapilrdave wrote:
Shonu wrote: +1!
Exactly, the venom was set in from the start. Nehru learnt from the British how to divide and rule the population. After independence, there was no longer a "single enemy" as before (Brits). So they had to create one. But how do you create one out of thin air? Hence he decided to start dividing hindus based on caste - remember the widespread anti-brahminism?. Hindus were foolish enough to fall for this. We are paying for it even today and will continue for generations to come. A friend of mine who has links to BJP says even RSS has gone quiet these days. Until this realisation dawns upon people, they will continue down this path, and i fear that by the time they realise, it will be too late.
RSS does not need to 'realize' anything. RSS is and has been throughout its history making Hindus realize this fact, albeit by its own way. Just because RSS is not shouting on loud speakers about this - which is useless anyways - it doesn't mean that they are not working on it. Anyone familier with RSS philosophy would know that its very base is about bridging the social gaps among Hindus. Their Swayam Sewaks visit each other's house regularly and maintain homely relation with each other - irrespective of caste. Their sub-org like Vanvasi Kalyan Kendra work in tribal areas for Scheduled Tribes and help them in everywhich way. This org is created specifically to check the proselytism in these areas. Churchs find these people low hanging fruit because they are mostly detached from the upper castes and also they can keep doing this silently. RSS has had a great success in this area and are now able to even re-convert some of them back to Hindu.

Another area where RSS is working is against BSP's Baudhism. BSP has worked in great depth with little success as yet to convert SC & ST into Boudhsm. Just for vote bank. They even claim that Dr. Ambedkar was a Boudhist! They are failing because of RSS.

Yes sir, but without BJP standing up for hindus and sticking to what they did a decade ago, the hardline hindus wont vote. BJP wooing secularists is as useful as CPI wooing capitalists. They will always be called a "hindu fanatical party" .. this view is propogated by the media. They need to specialise in what they can get.

If RSS was of no use, then why would congis and leftists would cry foul about them?

They are india's "al-qeeda" - I'm not saying they are the same.. but as far as sicklarists are concerned, thats what they've made them out to be.

pentaiah · Post by **pentaiah** » 08 Apr 2013 01:49

LKg as HM proved himself to be a bad cop certified by fly away quattorcchi
LKg thought he was bong man like chatter ji

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 08 Apr 2013 01:54

All-out war against Congress is Modi’s poll tip to party

In his first appearance before a crucial BJP meeting since his elevation to the party’s parliamentary board, a tough-speaking Modi pushed his colleagues to drop their “kid glove” approach and learn from his experience to knock out the ruling combine, as its unpopularity was at “its peak”.

Modi did not mince words in saying the hitherto approach of the BJP of “being too gentle” with the Congress government won’t do.

“Unless you make the people really hate the Congress by exposing their track record and the mess in every key area of governance and the havoc wrought by them, you can’t make them choose you,” the Gujarat chief minister said.

Virtually sounding the war bugle, Modi outlined “ways” to take on the Congress leadership and offered several “tips” to “neutralise” its network of “influence” in different spheres, by working really hard to woo voters right from the booth level in each Lok Sabha constituency, highly-placed BJP sources told HT.

Stating that “half-baked and half-hearted ideas won’t do”, Modi drew a parallel to the decade in Madhya Pradesh between 1993 and 2003 when Digivijaya Singh was chief minister. Saying that it took the BJP 10 years to force the Congress out of office there, Modi recalled the follies of the BJP till it gained force.

Party president Rajnath Singh, who had summoned all BJP state chiefs for the “strategy session”, told them the "

anti-Congress atmosphere in the country should not be fretted away through the actions of some leaders”.

He sternly warned them against speaking without authorisation on issues including who should be the PM nominee, which created “unnecessary” controversy and robbed the BJP of its USP as an alternative to the Congress.

Sources quoted Singh as saying that “some leaders have been ‘announcing’ names of PM candidates virtually on a daily basis, deflecting attention from the party’s achievements... I won't tolerate indiscipline, whoever it may be. I will give a warning and then act against them. We can't afford to be a house of warring leaders if we want to defeat the Congress.”

Senior BJP leaders who “dissected” the political situation state by state concluded that the Lok Sabha polls could be held in November, along with assembly elections in Delhi, MP, Chhattisgarh and Rajasthan.

BJP patriarch LK Advani said the BJP had lost in 2004 due to “overconfidence” and there was a need for caution this time. He wanted the BJP to go to polls with “good governance, prudent politics and an ideal image” as its USP.

Arun Jaitley ruled out the possibility of a Third Front government and predicted the Congress would lose badly in Andhra Pradesh, Haryana, Tamil Nadu, West Bengal, Uttar Pradesh and Rajasthan, where it got a total of 160 seats in 2009. Sushma Swaraj said that even as Gujarat had done well, the achievements of other BJP-ruled states like MP and Chhattisgarh should be showcased to woo voters.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-new ... 38980.aspx

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 08 Apr 2013 02:02

Rural courts ineffective, Narendra Modi says

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Sunday listed gram nyayalayas as one of the three measures that could help reduce pendency and increase the rural population's access to affordable justice.

But Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi, seen as a front-runner for the BJP's prime ministerial candidate ahead of the 2014 general elections, termed the UPA's concept of gram nyayalayas "expensive" and "ineffective".

why does NaMo say this- because of he has already implemented them in Gujarat.

Modi, however, said he had expressed doubts in 2009 about gram nyayalayas satisfying the need of litigants. "Disputants expect official judicial presence, which in turn requires a number of judicial officers and advocates at the village level. This makes the affair expensive. Not having such official presence leaves a high probability to the litigants not being satisfied and once again approaching the normal judicial channels," he said.

Presenting the Gujarat model of taking justice to the doorsteps of rural litigants, Modi said, "Government of Gujarat took an alternative route of strengthening and extending the services of taluka courts. Perhaps such taluka level courts or the judicial magistrate first class (JMFC) could make regular camps at villages on appointed days, with litigants and advocates remaining present for hearings."

Reeling out statistics as is his wont, the Gujarat CM said, "To fulfill a vision of having at least one court in each taluka, 183 courts of civil judge and JMFC have been made functional. These taluka level courts have become very useful for litigants at local village levels." He said Gujarat too had sanctioned a few gram nyayalayas but cautioned that before proceeding further, experience of these courts must be shared.

Archaic laws and procedures need a fresh re-look: Narendra Modi

Speaking at a conference of chief ministers of states and chief justices of high courts here, Modi said the judicial process and dispensation of justice mechanism requires a paradigm shift.

"In order to recognise people's faith in the system and quality of judgments, our archaic laws and procedures need a fresh re-look, particularly those governing judicial process and procedures," the Gujarat chief minister said.

He said the ultimate goal is to achieve the highest standards of transparency and speedy justice delivery at affordable costs.

Modi said Gujarat was the first state in the country to set up evening courts in 2006. "In recent years, 102 such courts have been established in Gujarat and more than 9.06 lakh cases disposed off."

"It has been so successful that in many of these courts, there are no cases and, therefore, 14 evening courts have been closed, as directed by the high court," he noted.

During the last five years, the state has invested heavily in the computerisation of courts, he said.

Regretting the decision of the Congress-led United Progressive Alliance (UPA) government for closing or stopping support to fast track courts, Modi said such initiative to deliver justice faster has had a great impact in deepening peoples' faith in the justice delivery system.

"Through speedy trials, fast-track courts also contribute to the reduction of arrears," he added.

Focusing on judicial reforms, he said the state government has established a Juvenile Justice Board and a child welfare committee in every district to deal with cases pertaining to juveniles in conflict with the law.

"Lok adalats and legal literacy camps are organised by the Gujarat State Legal Authority, where services of retired judges are utilised. From their inception till the end of 2012, 1,30,588 lok adalats have been organised in which 63,28,452 cases have been disposed of," Modi said.

He also pointed out the need to reduce time judicial officers spend on administrative functions and to carry out legal processes in local and vernacular languages so as to cut down on intricacies in making judicial procedures.

seems to have an answer to anything U Pee A throws at us.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 08 Apr 2013 02:18

http://www.niticentral.com/2013/04/06/g ... 62481.html

BJP will take India into the future, says Modi

Speaking on the occasion, BJP president Rajnath Singh praised Modi as the “most popular leader of the nation.” “Though as party president I should be speaking last, that honour should go to the most popular leader of the country today,” Rajnath said. Lashing out at Congress which compared Modi to ‘Yamraj’, Rajnath said people of India will teach a lesson to the party in the next general election.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 08 Apr 2013 02:24

Sanku wrote:
RajeshA wrote:
Sanku ji,

I think there has been a certain social brainwashing of Hindus with a continous propaganda that Hindus and Hinduism are morally, culturally and militarily inferior. This has caused a reaction among Hindus that they try to show that it is NOT THE CASE, that Sanatan Dharma teaches man to have the highest of standards, and so they have gone to the other extreme, tried to show themselves as PERFECT, and developed an expectation of MORAL PERFECTION from their co-travelers. Since that is seldom realizable, we Hindus have become prone to quick disappointment, in fact become self-rejectionists.

I think this is one reason, why many have decided to move away from BJP.

Those who want to destroy Bharat, vote for those who show corruptive and anti-national tendency and of such there are many. Destruction is easy. Those who want to build Bharat, have decided they will vote only for those Bharatiyas who can build it perfectly, otherwise they'll punish the imperfect Bharatiyas.

Quite sad in fact!
RajeshA ji, I can not agree more. Moving it to good posts thread.

+108

This post should come as a cautionary header to every political discussion thread here in BRF. NaMo's supporters (which includes moi) should be especially careful not to alienate others by being crass in criticism of others and especially other "groups" which are prospective voters to Modi. Simply put save the daggers for the Congrez and its minons whereas barbs would suffice for factions within BJP/NDA .

Many of the D4 (especially Advani) are probably getting blackmailed . In addition Advani is 85 yrs old - a fact which will automatically preclude him from becoming PM or even a ministerial post in my eyes.That is the beginning and the end of my publicly aired opinion on him. There is never any need to go to the extent of publicly lampooning him or others in his generation using terms like Lohpurush or Windbag etc.

Lets learn from how Congress managed to maintain a divine halo for Nehru inspite of all his failings and through his name they are still netting votes.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 08 Apr 2013 02:34

When you people talk of BJP standing up for Hindus and Hindu causes and when CON affiliated Tagodia spews venom on how they killed Muslims , you are making it easier for PAID MEDIA Taliban == Islamic Fanatics == Hindu Fundamentalists == RSS == VHP.

First of all, all that needs to be done is:

1. We first have to stop 24x7 PROPAGANDA of CRONY MEDIA and CON MAFIA egging on Muslims why they are being persecuted and indirectly telling them to take to arms and keep blowing up trains, and markets.

2. CON UPA in the last 9 years have been pushing so many anti-hindu communal laws. They are using NIA, CBI to create HinduTerror for propaganda. That needs to be stopped.

3. Govt. funds and thousands of acres of land is being give to missionaries (ITALIAN helicopter agents got 2000 acres of free land in AP in one month when YSR was CM. CON MP tells SC people that Vote for CON party means growth of Christianity). Hundreds of foreign (funded) NGOs are getting money from Govt. This needs to stop

4. Hindus need no favors. We need to remove Govt. authority on temple funds. Look at how Tirumala Temple funds (thousands of crores) being misappropriated by CON rulers. Even BJP leaders loot if they get a chance. We need to put a proper framework to channel this money for good causes in the name of Hindu religion.

The sad thing is even Hindu religious leaders loot the temple money. We need to increase transparency and use the money to help Hindu lower castes and tribals to bring them on par with the society and/or expand Hindu spiritual activities unlike COMMIE dogs who want to use it to propagate other religions.

5. Every citizen needs to have same rights and no discrimination, no appeasement, no special laws. The CONs are going other way: Special courts for Muslims, Genocide support in B'Desh, special communal riot acts to fix Hindus; support Paki terrorists/Islamic terrorists;

6. Growth/Governance/No discrimination.

The stress on last part is to make sure Dhimmified don't join anti-nationals and terrorist supporters. You have to make them understand secularism/inclusiveness does not mean murdering Hindus in WB, UP, Kerala in broad day light and supporting B'Deshi genocide against Hindus. No matter how much you explain, the message will be polluted by ITALIAN SCUMS and PAID MEDIA that dhimmis ignore it. But now they are disgusted at the ITALIAN MAFIA for the mess in economy. So focus on Development/Governance and being fair to all.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 08 Apr 2013 02:40

Virtually sounding the war bugle, Modi outlined “ways” to take on the Congress leadership and offered several “tips” to “neutralise” its network of “influence” in different spheres, by working really hard to woo voters right from the booth level in each Lok Sabha constituency, highly-placed BJP sources told HT.

If it is an inner party strategy meeting, why should the sources be leaking out this kind of stuff, that too to HT?

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 08 Apr 2013 02:53

^^This is the indian MSM we're dealing with. I wouldn't be surprised if his arse is the actual source.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 08 Apr 2013 02:54

http://ecophilo.blogspot.in/2012/03/brand-rahul.html

BRAND RAHUL... Read it all and see how strategic CON MAFIA is ...

There is no doubt that behind the creation of the building that is the brand Rahul Gandhi is a huge superstructure. Curious, I googled around on the brand that is Rahul Gandhi to see if there are different phases in the way media has projected the man over the years.

How I did this. The methodology (if you can call it that) is very simple. I went to Google and typed Rahul Gandhi. Then I went to the news section and saw how many articles showed in particular date ranges. And I read through some of them. That’s it. Not rocket science, but a closer look at my assumptions.

The Google news date range starts off in 2006-2008. But this is not the period when the Rahul Gandhi brand machine has started off. So I started off in 2004.

The Lost Phase: The brand machine took off closer to the 2004 date range when Congress won the first of two successive general elections. Google news gives about 932 results for those two years 2004-06. The first steps are small. Stories like “Indias first family rises again”. There are news with Rahul Gandhi, up close and personal. He had started “mingling with tribals”, “breaking the security cordon”, “Thousands of hysterical supporters cheered and showered Rahul Gandhi with rose petals and pink powder…” starts a piece. Jagadamba Prasad, quoted in this piece, sounds prescient. And since at that time the marketing machine was not really running, newspapers were not shy of sharing personal details as well like his companion then.

In this phase of Brand Rahul, there is no real brand building. A few people have reported what they are wont to. This phase of shorn of hype. But as you can see, there is absolutely no dissent anywhere. Nobody has yet questioned the legitimacy of the dynasty and he is seen more of an elite scion somewhere. There also does not seem to be too much hope of returning to power either among the family or the media.

From 2004 onwards when the Congress coalition won the elections and formed the government, the brand machine takes a leap. From comparing Rahul to Rajiv, there is news of the impending coronation as Party President atleast. There are notes of Musharrafs son meeting Sonias Son (whyever?).

The Launch Phase: From 2005 to 2006, Google throws up about 681 results. In 2006, a piece asks, “Has Rahul Gandhis time come?” Some people had decided then itself that he had it in him. Another piece informs us why Rahul Gandhi is not like Rajiv. “Rahul steps closer to Gandhi throne” informs another piece.

A Kabul trip is written about as “international exposure” to the budding scion who is now about 36. The piece starts off with a, by now, predictable “Rahul Gandhi is, for all intents and purposes, being groomed for high office.”

The Hype Phase I: Now we go to 2006-07. That’s about 1590 results now. Hmmm, quantum leap? No? Exponential coverage then? Perhaps the brand machine has started whirring.

Perhaps watching the lackluster performance of the government, In this period, he is slowly pushed as a “pro poor mascot” a great irony in itself. But the story that came out was that he was the man behind the push for NREGA to be rolled out countrywide. This phase is the grooming phase at the next level where the branding goes into his roles as a catalyst that makes things happen when they would not otherwise. Considering the government has not really performed, this seems to be another attempt at a mini makeover. Fawning praise is almost normal. His image as a “pro poor” is now clear. Keywords: Future, pro poor, catalyst, history, grooming.

In 2008, the brand machine has switched gears. 1670 results on google. The icon of Indian politics continues his love with the media. The star campaigner for many an election. The star campaigner has announced that “we will defeat terrorism”, crowds love the gen-next hero.

The fact that the Gujarat polls were a dampener barely finds a mention. The brand juggernaut rolls on building imaginary landscapes of charm and awe. All photos show him waving and smiling or smiling and waving or smiling or waving. There is no bad news associated with the man, at all. Notice that? Over all these years?

The Hype Phase II: In 2009, the UPA comes back into power comfortably. Meanwhile, his sister gives him a certificate. And of course, his much hyped “poverty tour” with Britain foreign secretary David Milliband.

But this part of the brand campaign shows a certain tiredness. How long can he be groomed? Or be a catalyst, behind the scenes? Not that anybody asks a question, but it is worth a thought that it is becoming a tad repetitive with all those photo opportunities and prepared campaign speeches.

Thus ended 2009.

The Reality Check Phase: Searching for news in 2010 gives us about 3520 results. Phew. That’s a lot. Through the brand building phase, this year is where the brand began to show its first cracks. Remarkable, considering that most of the cracks came not from Indias media, but from wikileaks. As far as local media was concerned, it was the photo opportunities.

The year is all about reaching out to people, whether in Bihar, slum dwellers in Mumbai, warning US about Hindu terror while they were busy attacking the wrong religion for terrorism. And of course, wikileaks told us this, not Rahul.

The world of photo opportunities unlimited continues its momentous tour. And of course, he snubbed the Shiv Sena by taking a Mumbai Local train (did he take a ticket, I don’t know). And that made front page news almost everywhere.

Slowly, the reality checks started coming in. For one, 2010 was the year of the “There are two Indias” speech. Interestingly, perhaps for the first time in a mainstream journal (or was it in a blog), the Economist asks a question of Rahul Gandhi. The piece whose byline says “Though no spring chicken, Rahul Gandhi has a lot to prove before he takes over the family business” is worth a read because no Indian media outlet has till this date carried anything remotely similarly worded.

2011 was no different from 2010, but with more questions being asked, though with velvet gloves in general. 2012 saw a huge take off followed by a fizzle – which in reality completes the reality check phase. Watch out for the next steps.

What I want you to think about is the nature of coverage over all these years.

Now look at this. Our so called prime minister in waiting has yet to give a simple coherent interview to the media. A simple press conference where he answers our questions. A simple conference where we know what is there, if anything, on his mind. All we get to see are photo opportunities, whats on his menu and all his campaign speeches.

Ask yourself, why does the media treat him with kid gloves (or mittens)? Why is he never ever asked a tough question? Why this obsequiousness media? Fearless Indian media, pick up that mike and hold a conference that is broadcast live. We want to know what the prime minister in waiting really thinks about us without having to go through the fog that is his mentoring and campaigning team.

Can we see that? Soon?

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 08 Apr 2013 03:09

Again

http://m.timesofindia.com/city/lucknow/ ... 418091.cms

UP govt to spend Rs 18K crore for development in minority dominated 45 districts
Apr 6, 2013, 08.40PM IST TNN[ Ashish Tripathi ]

LUCKNOW: In a bid to strengthen its grip over Muslim vote bank, the Samajwadi Party (SP) government in Uttar Pradesh (UP) has decided to spend Rs 1,800 crore on projects under Multi-sectoral Development Programme (MsDP) in 45 Muslim dominated districts in the current financial year.

The distict magistrate have been have been asked to identify blocks, villages and towns in their respective districts which have minority population 50% and above. They have also been directed to prepare schemes worth Rs 10 crore for each minority dominates block, village and town and submit it to the state government at the earliest. The proposal will also mention critical gaps pertaining to basic amenities, education, health, skills development etc in the particular area.

The districts selected for the project include Saharanpur, Bijnore, Muzaffarnagar, Shravasti, Balrampur, Siddharth Nagar, Bulandshahr, Baghpat, Badaun, Shahjahanpur, Lakhimpur Kheri, Pilibhit, Bareilly, Barabanki, Rampur, Amroha, Meerut, Bahraich, Moradabad, Gonda, Sant Kabir Nagar, Sitapur, Basti, Ghazipur, Maharajganj, Aligarh, Firozabad, Hardoi, Unnao, Kanpur City, Jalaun, Faizabad, Mahoba, Fatehpur, Pratapgarh, Ambedkar Nagar and Sant Ravidas Nagar, Azamgarh, Ghaziabad and Gautambudh Nagar. They also include strongholds of Gandhi family Rae Bareli and Sultanpur and Yadav family bastion Etawah, Kannauj and Etah.

This is how demented we are. This sciko ba$tards were all voted to power by UP people.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 08 Apr 2013 03:22

^ Don't worry.

The more the congress system spends in Muslim areas the better.

1. Firstly it will end up a scenario where Congress System commits extreme corruption on these so-called "minority funds". This is inevitable because congress system will have to get commission from even Gandhi-institution.

2. This will also lead to the split between Muslims who are connected and not-connected to the congress system. The other group need new sponsors, lest they will remain powerless.

3. Such overt spending on minority specific areas by the congress system will free the future govts from spending any money on such nonsensical programs because there no money available for such nonsense. Can anyone ask additional funds even after spending 45K crore as part of UP special package and now 18k crore for minority specific areas?

4. Finally once the dhimmis see how the minorities behave even after getting such focused programs, they will start shedding their secular warts.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 08 Apr 2013 03:23

Is the Modi address to FICCI today going to be live? IMO, I think this will be a game changer for him b/c he will be able to neutralize the Rahul speech to CII (not that it will take much effort) especially if he gives concrete solutions and takes questions.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 08 Apr 2013 03:30

Go to Narendramodi.in

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 08 Apr 2013 03:44

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 08 Apr 2013 03:54

3 speeches coming up over the next couple of days...

On Monday, April 8, Mr. Modi will deliver the keynote address annual session of the FICCI Ladies Organization (FLO) in New Delhi, with focus on women entrepreneurs and their empowerment. The same day at 4 p.m., he will talk on ‘Good Governance, Minimum Governance and Maximum Governance’ during the dialogue series on ‘Think India’ on CNBC-18 News TV Channel in the series.

From New Delhi, he will go directly to Kolkata to address a number of functions there.

On Tuesday, April 9, Mr. Modi will address a meeting of captains of trade and industries organized by the Kolkata’s oldest Merchant Chamber of Commerce and Industries and Associates. He will be felicitated by the BJP in the afternoon. At night, the Gujarati families settled in West Bengal will felicitate Mr. Modi at a reception arranged by Gujarati Samaj in Kolkata.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 08 Apr 2013 06:54

Modi Speech to FICCI will go live in about 3 hrs. Don't miss it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLJ9I7JMR0w

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 08 Apr 2013 06:58

These fcuking Rai Bahadurs

KISSINGER CABLES
Rajiv Gandhi was ‘entrepreneur’ for Swedish jet, U.S. cable says

Revelation contained in Kissinger-era documents obtained by WikiLeaks

Much before he became Prime Minister, during his years as an Indian Airlines pilot, Rajiv Gandhi may have been a middleman for the Swedish company Saab-Scania, when it was trying to sell its Viggen fighter aircraft to India in the 1970s.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/r ... 592091.ece

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 08 Apr 2013 07:11

krisna wrote:
devil is in the details.
trust toilet.
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In other news, kejriwal is fighting for 20 kilolitres of water for delhites. No solutions from kejriwal on any problems except stop corrutpion with lok pal .
meanwhile his partner in congi has started a pissing contest to fill in dams due to drought in Maharastra.
bee from pappu, pee from ajit pawar.
There is also a big scam under in MH not picked by the usual media relatd to to over 60000 crores in irrigation in MH with absymal results.

I found this rather garbled. What is your point?

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 08 Apr 2013 07:35

Sushupti wrote:These fcuking Rai Bahadurs

KISSINGER CABLES
Rajiv Gandhi was ‘entrepreneur’ for Swedish jet, U.S. cable says

Revelation contained in Kissinger-era documents obtained by WikiLeaks

Much before he became Prime Minister, during his years as an Indian Airlines pilot, Rajiv Gandhi may have been a middleman for the Swedish company Saab-Scania, when it was trying to sell its Viggen fighter aircraft to India in the 1970s.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/r ... 592091.ece

The whole family of Bloody Indian Blood Suckers. Broker Family.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 08 Apr 2013 07:51

To wow industry and the nation, this is what Rahul could have said at CII

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 08 Apr 2013 08:27

Modi’s pet-hate wave
RADHIKA RAMASESHAN

New Delhi, April 7: Narendra Modi today urged the BJP to intensify the “popular” mood against the Congress and whip up the “sentiments” into a “wave of nafrat” against the party.

Modi’s use of nafrat (revulsion or loathing) stunned delegates at the office-bearers’ meeting, leaving many wondering if the Opposition’s political discourse ought to sound so “extreme”.

When Modi spoke in the evening, none of the leaders, barring his newest ally Rajnath Singh, was present. L.K. Advani, Sushma Swaraj and Arun Jaitley spoke before lunch, left and did not return. Modi was preoccupied with the chief ministers’ conference with high court judges in the morning.

Modi explained why it was important to evoke nafrat against the Congress. He recalled that when he was BJP general secretary in charge of Madhya Pradesh during the 1997 Assembly polls, he had felt that people did not wish to vote Digvijaya Singh back to power.

“There was a mood of nafrat against him,” a source quoted Modi as saying at the in-camera meet. He claimed BJP workers were “sufficiently enthused” to work against the Congress but Digvijaya was back because the BJP could not encash the “popular mood”.

His message was that despite the pervasive “national anti-Congress” mood, it was incumbent on BJP leaders and cadre to tap the feelings on the ground, position their party as the only alternative and motivate voters to come to booths and take the process to its “logical” conclusion.

Rajnath was supposed to be under the weather but he made it a point to sit through Modi’s 40-minute speech and give his valedictory address.

The absence of Advani was not the only sign that things were amiss at the top. Sources quoted Sushma as saying it was “not right” to keep recounting the “achievements” of one BJP-ruled state (Gujarat) and keep the others out of the frame.
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Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 08 Apr 2013 09:02

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... ndela.html
Why Pakistan's Mohammed Ali Jinnah Was No Nelson Mandela
by Kapil Komireddi Apr 7, 2013

Hindu nationalists agitating for the creation of a Hindu state are in fact paying a tribute to Jinnah, the most successful proponent of majoritarian politics in modern India’s history. Narendra Modi is nothing if not the most consummate Hindu avatar of Mohammed Ali Jinnah. His dream is to complete the journey that Jinnah started us on. Jinnah said Hindus and Muslims don’t belong together: Modi agrees.

Indians who today oppose Modi are followers of Indians who opposed Jinnah in another time: pluralists, humanists, adherents of the inclusive nationalism of Nehru.

FIGHT BACK ALERT

Die Nasty orifice Kapil Komireddi has written a hit piece against NaMo in The Daily Beast - influential political e-zine in the US. In this article Komireddi compares NaMo to Jinnah, calling him the Hindu Jinnah.

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RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 08 Apr 2013 09:49

FICCI event starting any minute.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLJ9I7JMR0w

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 08 Apr 2013 10:14

@pulki_bushu: Narendra Modi on Sunday cautioned his colleagues against underestimating Congress's survival skills

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 435404.cms

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 08 Apr 2013 10:42

Pranav wrote:
krisna wrote:
devil is in the details.
trust toilet.
-------------------------------------------------
In other news, kejriwal is fighting for 20 kilolitres of water for delhites. No solutions from kejriwal on any problems except stop corrutpion with lok pal .
meanwhile his partner in congi has started a pissing contest to fill in dams due to drought in Maharastra.
bee from pappu, pee from ajit pawar.
There is also a big scam under in MH not picked by the usual media relatd to to over 60000 crores in irrigation in MH with absymal results.
I found this rather garbled. What is your point?

It actually is not garbled.

Seems like Maharashtra under the Kongis went on to spend big time, in the name of irrigation projects, because of the Neta-Chamcha contractor-Babu nexus that seeks to line the pockets of all three. And all the spending was done without thought to the rain fall pattern and ground water recharge.

You will almost on daily basis find MSM harping on how NCP (which is not exactly on great terms with Kongis) is responsible for this. This is basically an excercise in shifting the blame away from the Kongis in Maharashtra. The BJP, Shiv Sena and Raj Thakrey are going after this scam in the Maharashtra and rightly so. But the kongis just want to shift blame to NCP.

Delhi too is facing some of the same basic problem with a different manifestation of it. And Kejriwal is just trying to fool people with his lok pal now. Coincidently even in and around Delhi a Yamuna related agitation is brewing.

Water wars!

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 08 Apr 2013 10:55

Plane carrying BJP leaders made an emergency landing.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 08 Apr 2013 10:59

@KartikeyaTanna: In short, CBI can't now arrest Shah unless totally new evidence surfaces & FIR filed. Must wait for outcome of trial. Shah free till 2014

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 08 Apr 2013 12:25

that amit pawar guy in MH..where do these people come from. somebody should carry out his suggestion on his face.

nawabs · Post by **nawabs** » 08 Apr 2013 12:30

#feku trending at the top for Modi at FICCI. 100 Crore doing their work. Most of the tweets are regarding the apparent hypocrisy of Modi regarding his wife.