Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 09 Apr 2013 12:48

Shonu wrote:Narendra Modi raises development pitch, attacks UPA government

"In Gujarat, I spent 10 years in filling potholes which the Congress created ... here, they (Left government) made potholes for 30 years but the present (Mamata Banerjee-led) government is going in right direction," he said.
Possible alliance with didi in the works??

Modi may be open to such an alliance, but, Didi is best to be avoided in the greater scheme of things, because of her dependence on the Muslim vote bank and general unpredictability.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 09 Apr 2013 12:56

if not an alliance, there are benefits to make sure she does not tie up with the UPA but remains out.

UPA already has its B-team of workers like DMK, BSP and SP to do the heavy lifting on gathering MPs.

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 09 Apr 2013 12:59

No FEKU like twit today, eh?

Dudh ke jale, chhach bhi fook fook ke pine lage?

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 09 Apr 2013 13:03

I think either INC is totally in over confident because of the stupid delutions or secretly preparing EVM Magic we may not know. But INC has its own problems - Its 3 Amigos(see the movie quite great one) can not communicate. They need some of their Chamchas to do it for them. Now failure to communicate can be at least be ofset if there is good governance. What we have is mal governance. So INC is in serious trouble. It failed to keep big wigs of industry happy with serious mistakes at every turn of economic management. So they are seriously unhappy and it is going to hurt badly in elections.

INC may be taking comfort from the idea that BJP may be untouchable in 3rd front people and has no presence in many states. But if INC is less than 100 and BJP near 175 will create of political momentum for BJP in which case people like BJD may offer support to NDA.

As of now both INC and BJP shall try to get more seats while BJP performed badly last time and can go up INC peaked at 200 plus and can not repeat that level due to their misdeeds. They have no powerful record, message, messagers, leaders and wish to bribe their way to power. But people can not be fooled all the time.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 09 Apr 2013 13:21

You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 09 Apr 2013 13:24

Shri Narendra Modi talks on 'Vibrant Growth Model' with Chambers of Industry, Kolkata on Apr 09, 2013

Tamang · Post by **Tamang** » 09 Apr 2013 13:32

Chandragupta wrote:Around 9 yesterday, there was a show on some English news channel with Kiron Kher from BJP and Sanjay Jha(ntu) from the Congress, in the larger panel of around 5-6 people. Anybody remember which channel & show it was? I could just catch a glimpse of Jhantu speaking some nonsense.

NDTV, hosted by Nidhi Razdan

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 09 Apr 2013 13:33

Folks , are we spending too much time on the chamchas and sycophants. Most merely exist and take a pro-CON stand in return for a favor. When the tide turns, these lot will too.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 09 Apr 2013 14:24

^true dat

anmol · Post by **anmol** » 09 Apr 2013 14:38

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 09 Apr 2013 14:47

So far he has targeted the middle class which is at best 20-25%, needs to target the majority aam admi. A rath yatra through the gullies and mohallas of India should be the strategy. It is the poor who are going to elect the Govt.

Virendra · Post by **Virendra** » 09 Apr 2013 15:33

In Rajasthan there is a Modi wave building in semi-urban areas, small towns that emerged from large villages.
Lower middle class will vote for Modi.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 09 Apr 2013 15:58

Why Modi has to move from good to democratic governance

What is this joker trying to say.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 09 Apr 2013 16:06

This is a ripping the UPA to smithereens moment. He did not even leave S.M.Krishna's reading some other country's speech at UN. He will campaign in KA and he did give his first shot to that.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 09 Apr 2013 16:07

Supratik wrote:So far he has targeted the middle class which is at best 20-25%, needs to target the majority aam admi. A rath yatra through the gullies and mohallas of India should be the strategy. It is the poor who are going to elect the Govt.

+1. That needs to be planned.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 09 Apr 2013 16:14

Hari Seldon wrote:^^^+1 standing ovation. Genuine awe in the audience. Qs are those that would be put only to a shadow PM, nay an imminent PM. Only. Phoren policy par question aaya...

In one speech he gave life to Mamatadi's admin by saying it will take no one knows how many years it will take to bring WB back to level playing field after decades of anti-national slave-communist party.

This will force the leftist paid media to go slow on didi, otherwise they will make another Modi out of her.

Of course, she will be forced to work for the people from now on wards.

Hopefully S.TN-vasis can see Modi's alliance making skills. If they voted for Amma, they shouldn't have any problem voting for NM.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 09 Apr 2013 17:06

Kolkata: Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi on Tuesday side-stepped questions on his Prime Ministerial ambitions, saying he is an "apolitical person". "I am not a politician," he said, when asked by a questioner at a programme about the desire of politicians to aim for the top political post and what was his attitude about it.

"A politician may have (the desire to become Prime Minister) but I am not a politician. I am an apolitical person," he said to a round of applause from the gathering of businessmen at the Merchants Chamber of Commerce here.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/narendra-mod ... 37-64.html

This is not really satisfying. It is not a matter of his personal desires. There are national issues at stake.

I'm sure his supporters will need clarity about whether he has the stomach and the commitment for a brutal and nasty battle against anti-national elements within his own party.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 09 Apr 2013 17:10

Pranav ji,

give him the leeway for some humor!

He is saying "A politician may have the desire to become Prime Minister", but "I am not a politician". Since everybody knows that he is a politician, of course he has the desire to become Prime Minister!

Would you doubt that he is a politician?

sooraj · Post by **sooraj** » 09 Apr 2013 17:25

Rediff Ballot: Who should be India's next PM?

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/redif ... 130409.htm

http://awesomescreenshot.com/0c4156it89

modi with more than 77% votes

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 09 Apr 2013 17:37

sooraj wrote:http://www.rediff.com/news/report/redif ... 130409.htm

Why is Sonia Gandhi's name not on the ballot?

That would really have hurt! Just shows that all these media houses are all sold!

Yogi_G · Post by **Yogi_G** » 09 Apr 2013 18:06

Rajdeep Sardesai says India never had a true right wing party. Interesting, this can be used for stalling and plausible denaibility when downhill skiing under Modi's regime.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 09 Apr 2013 18:14

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 09 Apr 2013 18:19

Sagarika Ghose caught lying on Twitter about Narendra Modi

By S Sudhir Kumar on April 9, 2013

http://www.niticentral.com/2013/04/09/s ... 63643.html

Why didn’t Modi stay and take any questions? Was he afraid of another India Today conclave situation? Not fair, Modiji! #thinkindia

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 09 Apr 2013 18:20

Neela wrote:Folks , are we spending too much time on the chamchas and sycophants. Most merely exist and take a pro-CON stand in return for a favor. When the tide turns, these lot will too.

These osieaules have gone too far down the road for any favor. they are embedded in congi dna.
Many have profited enormously with their buisnesses enmeshed inside congi C system.
They will never return the favor(significant few but not all) as their buisness and network will collapse and become nobodies.

hence they have to be removed from roots and law applied to them in equal measure as any other Indian citizen.

never forgive or forget these *&^%$

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 09 Apr 2013 18:28

RajeshA wrote:
sooraj wrote:http://www.rediff.com/news/report/redif ... 130409.htm
Why is Sonia Gandhi's name not on the ballot?

That would really have hurt! Just shows that all these media houses are all sold!

plausible deniability- employing paki tactics.

Other issue she can never become PM as she will be exposed more now than around 2004. ?? According to Indian laws on citizenship she cannot.She has been clever when she came to know that she can never be PM of India- used that opportunity to become a supreme scarificer of India.

Recall she rushed to the president with support (MSY) to stake claim for PMship before NDAtook govt. Then she did not know the issue of PMship.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 09 Apr 2013 18:41

krishna ji,

the question was about "who should be India's Next PM?" and not about "who could be". Most people don't know about the legalities of whether she can become PM or not. So in this case, keeping her name out of the list was basically to save her the ignominy of getting just 2% versus Modi's 76%.

People try to keep her above reproach. The whole Congress model of political power is to keep Sonia Gandhi beyond the mud-filled topsy-turvy politics. She has to retain a full white saree!

That cannot be allowed to continue! She is not going to be some "elder statesman" who nobody criticizes or builds an opinion on desirability.

People of India should know that the rest do not want her! If her aura goes for a six, the congress system crumbles. That is why she would like shadow boxing. She will put her son in front of her. She will put MMS in front of her. She will put Chiddu in front of her.

She herself needs to be dragged into such speeches and debates and Q&A. People need to know what they are dealing with.

She wants all the power and no responsibility and no need to show face.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 09 Apr 2013 18:52

MODINAMA 5

http://www.manushi.in/articles.php?articleId=1698

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 09 Apr 2013 19:03

Sushupti wrote:MODINAMA 5

http://www.manushi.in/articles.php?articleId=1698

His message to the Muslims has been: Don’t act as a captive vote bank for any party. You don’t even have to vote for BJP. But engage as active citizens; become part of the growth story of Gujarat.

When we investigated the matter, we found Modi was right. Even when we look back at his election speeches of 2003, barring one comment, there were no attacks on Muslims. This was when talking about the need for family planning measures, in a barely veiled reference to multiple wives of Muslims he said something to the effect that some people oppose family planning with the idea: Hum Paanch, hamare pachees.’ We grilled him about that comment.

Modi explained it saying: “Please understand, election time is like Holi. It is assumed that people will take liberties with each other. Just as in Holi, men will throw colour at even unknown women, and people indulge in mutual pranks saying, “Don’t mind, it is Holi” (bura mat mano, holi hai), so also during election time people do take pot shots at each other and in the process some indiscretions take place. Other than that one comment, you can’t point out anything offensive I said about Muslims or Islam.

I want to tell you that the “5-25” comment had another context. These things are hushed up but this comment was made during the election of 2002 in the backdrop of certain untoward happenings in refugee camps. There were a number of incidents of rape, sexual molestation and extra marital liaisons resulting in pregnancies within the camps. All this happened within the community. That is why many of us wanted these camps to wind up fast and get uprooted families return to their homes. When families are huddled together like that, these things can’t be controlled. Far sighted community leaders wanted that these camps should not continue indefinitely because there were plenty of instances of misbehaviour with women. In that context, Modi made that “5-25” comment which was certainly not in good taste. But other than that, there have been no offensive speeches.

But his addressing former Pakistani president as 'Miyan Musharraf cannot by any stretch of imagination be considered an abusive term. No doubt, there is a touch of sarcasm when Modi uses this term but in itself the word “Miyan” is widely used by Muslims to address each other in the normal course of conversations. But think of all the venom and poison aimed at Modi—he has been called a fascist, a snake, a scorpion, merchant of death, Milosevic, Hitler and what not. But if he as much as says, “Madam Sonia ji”, they think he is being abusive!

Modi says, "Musharraf is a Pakistani general and Pakistan is a hostile nation which has caused enormous damage to India. I have a right to take pot shots at him. Those can’t be construed as attacks on Indian Muslims.”

“Miyan Musharraf” comment came in response to Musharraf having made a very negative speech in the U.N about Gujarat. So Modi told him to mind his own business. We too feel that Musharraf had no right to speak on our behalf in the U.N. These are our internal issues; we can handle them on our own strength.

But I wasn’t sure if he’d actually come simply because he said he’ll come. On the day of the reception, I got a phone call from the CM’s office saying ‘sahib has left for your house. He will reach in 40 minutes.” I asked my wife how are we going to get our daughter to meet him; she said ‘we will put her in a burka and bring her out.’ In the meantime, he arrived. We could not communicate with the zenana section to warn them in advance, so in that rush we just took him to the ladies section. You won’t believe it, our guests responded to Modi’s sudden appearance as though Salman Khan had suddenly appeared on the scene. Every single person wanted to shake hands with Modi and wanted to get photographed with him. Those who came late curse me till date that if Modi was coming why did you not tell us in advance; why did you deprive us of the chance to meet him? I had expected that people might avoid meeting him, will stay away, and keep a distance. But everybody was scrambling to meet him. When we went to the ladies side, I told myself, I already have 11 fatwas against me; one more will come with this!

When we went to the ladies side, I told myself, I already have 11 fatwas against me; one more will come with this!

As we were at the entrance of the ladies section, Modi told his security staff to stay out. He walked with me alone to the ladies section. We went to the stage, he gave blessings to my daughter and there was a mad scramble among the Muslim women with burkhas to have a photograph with Modi. Since I am not a “secular” Muslim, this was a hard core Islamic wedding of real puritans. He was there for good 45 minutes; he met everybody. So much so that he moved around the wheel chair of one of my sons who is paraplegic, shook his hands and tweaked his ears. He was in a jovial mood, meeting everyone and taking in everything.

During the 2006 floods in Gujarat – Surat, Anand were affected. Modi himself went to Surat despite all the filth and sewage. His message was very clear – the relief was to reach everyone including Muslims. The Muslims were very satisfied with the efforts and when Mahesh Bhatt praised him, his “secular” friends became his enemies. Mahesh Bhatt said that he was just saying what he had actually seen happening at the ground level. There was no discrimination between Hindus and Muslims with regard to the relief provided by the Gujarat Government.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 09 Apr 2013 19:08

Singha wrote:the middle class and poor in india dont give a rats behind about speeches in harvard or europe.
I dont know which constituency of voters he wants to attract....the only constituency which would be impressed is already with the INC.

this is to fool dhimmi hindus and urban yuppie youth. Also for the Spin masters to keep drooling on the young, smart, cute gora Rahul and continue to define his vision (made up vision)

Klaus · Post by **Klaus** » 09 Apr 2013 19:09

Apparently the CM of Madhya Pradesh Shivraj Chauhan has made a statement that it was his personal desire not to be in contention for the BJP Parliamentary Board posts, he wishes to keep a low profile. Added to that is the BJP President's statement that there was only 1 vacancy available for the said position, which was decided based on seniority.

So propping up of alternative candidates within BJP by the party or by RSS etc has now decisively ended, one would think so?

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 09 Apr 2013 19:59

I think the murmurs of alternative PM candidates come only from various chamchas of Advani who want to show their appreciation to him once, even though they too know that they will be accepting Modi finally.

It has long been decided that Modi would be BJP's PM candidate. They can afford to delay this announcement.

Advani may have liked some protege of his to win the candidacy but he will have to live with it. His time is gone!

The longer this goes on, the more Modi would become a household name, the more the industrialists of this country would jump onto the Modi bandwagon.

Now comes the time when Modi has to go after Sonia Gandhi herself. He today showed in Kolkata that he is willing to use AugustaWestland deal to pounce on her.

If the Congress now expedites the case of the Marines, then they will be allowed to return to Italy to sit out their sentences. That itself would become a powerful attack vector for Modi. If however Congress delays the case, then the Italians would become nervous that if Modi comes, he would stop the transfer of the Marines to Italy so they will be pushing Sonia to expedite the case.

Anyway Modi has said he is going to use the case! Any new developments in it, would be giving Modi more dynamite.

Now that Pappu has almost been neutralized, it is time to go after Damaad and the Queen Bee!

Virendra · Post by **Virendra** » 09 Apr 2013 20:07

From Modinama 4 :

The anti-incumbency factor affected some BJP MLAs who were poor performers. There was no anti-incumbency against Modi. Since Congress joined hands with RSS/BJP defectors Keshubhai and Waghela, Modi was put in a tough situation. If he had not given tickets to these sitting MLAs, they would have moved over to Keshubhai’s party and dented BJP’s vote. Congress thus managed to tie down Modi. Otherwise, he would have dropped the poor performers among his MLAs and ministers.
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Win ability was a major factor in this election. Why is it that those who criticize him for not giving single ticket to Muslims for the 2012 assembly election, never appreciate an unprecedented number of Muslims winning on BJP ticket in the panchayat, municipal and zila parishad elections?

Media manages to forget these things

Vipin_Upadhyay · Post by **Vipin_Upadhyay** » 09 Apr 2013 20:16

RajeshA ji, If NaMo & BJP really want to play Chanakian, they should avoid opposing Pappu. In fact ignore or even use some spokesperson for well calculated veiled praise.
The more Mainovadis project pappu as PM the more he will be exposed. Mark my words, the man has no clue, a complete disaster. He will sink Maino family on his own.

My concern is with holy sister Bianca. If Bianca replaces pappu, she will find fooling UP masses easier due to her facial resemblance with Indira ji & she is not as dumb as pappu. Moreover dynasty media will lampoon BJP & NaMo on daily basis if they even open their mouth against a young "Woman" during election debates.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 09 Apr 2013 20:27

Mamata deflects questions on TMC's possible tie-up with BJP

http://newindianexpress.com/nation/Mama ... 537730.ece

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 09 Apr 2013 20:28

^^True. byanka is a problem. Especially so since she has someone witht he tactical brillince of the son in law of the nation, sri rawbert vadra advising her only...

Modiji, AP kab aaoge? Expose the likes of jagan and kkr completely and utterly. only.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 09 Apr 2013 20:31

Hari Seldon wrote:^^True. byanka is a problem. Especially so since she has someone witht he tactical brillince of the son in law of the nation, sri rawbert vadra advising her only...

Modiji, AP kab aaoge? Expose the likes of jagan and kkr completely and utterly. only.

Did you notice his reference to CBN in ThinkIndia speech, on how only they two proposed rewriting of labor laws?

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 09 Apr 2013 20:38

BJP leaders were using jet owned by 2G scam accused?

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/bjp-l ... um=twitter

ManjaM · Post by **ManjaM** » 09 Apr 2013 20:48

Vipin_Upadhyay wrote:.
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& she is not as dumb as pappu.

There has been no evidence of her intelligence to date. Neither has she vocalised her thoughts on ANY police related issue or on matters of governance. In fact, she has not said anything about anything at all.
If she comes from teh same stock, has the same upbringing, same education and has the same advisors there is no reason to believe that she is any different from Pappu.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 09 Apr 2013 20:54

Media demonising Narendra Modi

By Niticentral Staff on April 9, 2013

http://www.niticentral.com/2013/04/09/m ... 63591.html

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 09 Apr 2013 20:56