Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Narad · Post by **Narad** » 18 Apr 2013 18:24

Would like to dedicate this song to mush the running tush.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 18 Apr 2013 18:35

First of all it wasn't mushy in court, it was the mujahideen. Secondly they didn't lose in court, they won but stupid politicians squandered the victory. Thirdly Mushy was running just to show solidarity with Boston and it has nothing to do with court.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 18 Apr 2013 18:36

From the links I posted,

. . . but a police team which had earlier reached the Chak Shahzad farmhouse apparently to arrest Musharraf, later mysteriously left.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 18 Apr 2013 18:39

This actually happened. Mushy's party spokesman called pindi bar association as "Supreme court's 111 brigade"

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 18 Apr 2013 19:22

Sushupti wrote:

Hey Pakis, time to dethrone Jinnah!

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 18 Apr 2013 19:30

Anantha wrote:Do not forget, about 800 fine Indian soldiers gave their lives at Kargil, climbing up, while the cowardly pakis were shooting from up in the mountains. This guy mushy has blood of several Indian soldiers and other Indian civilians. Need to get the video of the car chase and the last stand.

and responsible for the trauma and sufferring of those families and the entire nation. This guy is a war criminal. His heinous crime was nothing less than Hafiz Saeed or Dawood.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 18 Apr 2013 19:31

Anujan wrote:Though every terrorist has a paki connection, Not all pakis are terrorists. The world should realize this.

Slowly but surely all Pakistanis will be terrorists. Others will say they are from India or Bangladesh.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 18 Apr 2013 19:42

RajeshA wrote:If Mushy now takes US help to exit the country, basically his reputation would be so finished and in swine piss, that he is useless of the US.

The only place safe for him in Pakistan is either the US Embassy and he can clean the toilets there to make himself useful, or in jail hoping that the jailer is not some Red Mosque graduate.

Otherwise he is like a Begum running naked in the streets of Karachi. Everybody and anybody can jump on him.

He will seek asylum in India.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 18 Apr 2013 19:45

or perhaps in dubai

shaardula · Post by **shaardula** » 18 Apr 2013 19:46

given that assphack is gola's baccha, there wont be any kargrilling of musharaff this season, i dont think. nevertheless, the mere sight of world's favourite gola downhilling like a two-aana paakit maar must shame all those western and injun friends of his, who turned a blind eye to this war criminal and murderer and patronized him as if he was a statesman.

the best thing to come out of this would be to shame his patrons they are as dangerous as musharaff himself.

shaardula · Post by **shaardula** » 18 Apr 2013 19:51

ofcourse world doesnot work like that, maasi and maasa will be more than happy to give a musharraf such as him, his 40 acres and a mule somewhere in the prairie.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 18 Apr 2013 19:53

RamaY wrote:
RajeshA wrote:If Mushy now takes US help to exit the country, basically his reputation would be so finished and in swine piss, that he is useless of the US.

The only place safe for him in Pakistan is either the US Embassy and he can clean the toilets there to make himself useful, or in jail hoping that the jailer is not some Red Mosque graduate.

Otherwise he is like a Begum running naked in the streets of Karachi. Everybody and anybody can jump on him.
He will seek asylum in India.

The only one who may entertain him until the interview abusing India is complete is burkha butt of dirty undie tee vee.

K Mehta · Post by **K Mehta** » 18 Apr 2013 19:59

Go Gola gone!

Mihaylo · Post by **Mihaylo** » 18 Apr 2013 20:01

shaardula wrote:given that assphack is gola's baccha, there wont be any kargrilling of musharaff this season, i dont think. nevertheless, the mere sight of world's favourite gola downhilling like a two-aana paakit maar must shame all those western and injun friends of his, who turned a blind eye to this war criminal and murderer and patronized him as if he was a statesman.

the best thing to come out of this would be to shame his patrons they are as dangerous as musharaff himself.

Ashphack is Gola's bacha just like Gola was Nawaz Sharifl's bacha, or better still, just like Zia was Bhutto's bacha. I know the analogy is a bit loose because both are from the army, however, in my opinion, Ashphuck is Zia personified. If one thinks about it, Gola would not have thought about coming back to Pakistan if he didn't have the blessings of the Punjabi Army and hence, he never expected to come across such opposition. Somebody wanted him to come back and baited him in. Why for, if not for retribution. The Talibunnies hate him, the Bhutto's hate him, the Shareif's hate him, and I am sure, portions of the Punjabi army hates him just because he is a bloody Mohajir who somehow jumped all over them to become the COAS. I just hope whoever pulls the proverbial trigger are creative this time. I mean, falling on a sunroof lever is so passe.

-M

Yogi_G · Post by **Yogi_G** » 18 Apr 2013 20:10

And in other news, police are in the lookout for round shaped (technical term gola) burkha shuttlecock wearers with manly features, immediate identification mark is a rounded musharraf gone fat on public money. Informants will be given a guided tour of the red mosque.

shaardula · Post by **shaardula** » 18 Apr 2013 20:12

so M saar, i was hoping to see mushraff long lived phati kurti, long beard with baatil in hand roaming streets of pindi bekaar. no chance of that you are saying. he will go down a martyr in the eyes of schizophrenics is what you are saying.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 18 Apr 2013 20:15

Mihaylo wrote:
shaardula wrote:given that assphack is gola's baccha, there wont be any kargrilling of musharaff this season, i dont think. nevertheless, the mere sight of world's favourite gola downhilling like a two-aana paakit maar must shame all those western and injun friends of his, who turned a blind eye to this war criminal and murderer and patronized him as if he was a statesman.

the best thing to come out of this would be to shame his patrons they are as dangerous as musharaff himself.

Ashphack is Gola's bacha just like Gola was Nawaz Sharifl's bacha, or better still, just like Zia was Bhutto's bacha. I know the analogy is a bit loose because both are from the army, however, in my opinion, Ashphuck is Zia personified. If one thinks about it, Gola would not have thought about coming back to Pakistan if he didn't have the blessings of the Punjabi Army and hence, he never expected to come across such opposition. Somebody wanted him to come back and baited him in. Why for, if not for retribution. The Talibunnies hate him, the Bhutto's hate him, the Shareif's hate him, and I am sure, portions of the Punjabi army hates him just because he is a bloody Mohajir who somehow jumped all over them to become the COAS. I just hope whoever pulls the proverbial trigger are creative this time. I mean, falling on a sunroof lever is so passe.

-M

As per the book written by Saleem Shahzad, ashphack was never gola's choice at all. He was an American choice rammed through by them

gola does not like ashphack

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 18 Apr 2013 21:09

The pig flees!!!

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 18 Apr 2013 21:16

Mush's House outside Rawalpindi / Islamabad in Chak Shazad including halal coordinates

Baikul · Post by **Baikul** » 18 Apr 2013 21:39

shaardula wrote:given that assphack is gola's baccha, there wont be any kargrilling of musharaff this season, ..........

Yes, but I also believe that Kiyani- who is possibly thinking of scenarios and options for a post retirement Kiyani- may not mind if the g@andu kammandu gets taken down a peg or five.

In the twilight world of Pakistani 'miltry' herrows, there can be only one mard-e-monin at any point in time and Kiyani is all grown up now.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 18 Apr 2013 21:43

It will not be funny if Gola is captured by Bad-Bad Talibans

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 18 Apr 2013 21:43

If TSPA lets the judges go after Mushy sends bad message to the kabila. When Badmash dismissed Mushy in 1999, they launched a coup. But then there were jihadis like Mohd Aziz in the Corps(e) Commanders. Now midget euunuchs appointed by Msuhy are in the coterie. So its a 1992 Kremlin moment. If the launch a coup its against the judges they lose face. If they do nothing then it erodes their image. Then public opinion is turning to prefer shariah over military rule!

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 18 Apr 2013 21:44

"The winter is coming"

vasu raya · Post by **vasu raya** » 18 Apr 2013 22:03

abhijitm wrote:
Anantha wrote:Do not forget, about 800 fine Indian soldiers gave their lives at Kargil, climbing up, while the cowardly pakis were shooting from up in the mountains. This guy mushy has blood of several Indian soldiers and other Indian civilians. Need to get the video of the car chase and the last stand.
and responsible for the trauma and sufferring of those families and the entire nation. This guy is a war criminal. His heinous crime was nothing less than Hafiz Saeed or Dawood.

if Gola is to be treated as a war criminal for Kargil and specifically Capt. Kalia and his team's case, can the IA initiate the proceedings along with GoI culminating it with a interpol alert and arrest warrant?

Mihaylo · Post by **Mihaylo** » 18 Apr 2013 22:24

vasu raya wrote:..

if Gola is to be treated as a war criminal for Kargil and specifically Capt. Kalia and his team's case, can the IA initiate the proceedings along with GoI culminating it with a interpol alert and arrest warrant?

Why ?? Why unite pukies at this juncture. Musharaff's musharaff is going to be poked by the proverbial AK barrel (or with kendostyx for that matter) - a la Gaddafi - sooner or later. Grab the masala dossa and chaya and enjoy onlee.

-M

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 18 Apr 2013 22:42

vasu raya wrote:
abhijitm wrote: and responsible for the trauma and sufferring of those families and the entire nation. This guy is a war criminal. His heinous crime was nothing less than Hafiz Saeed or Dawood.
if Gola is to be treated as a war criminal for Kargil and specifically Capt. Kalia and his team's case, can the IA initiate the proceedings along with GoI culminating it with a interpol alert and arrest warrant?

We cannot do anything now. ABV government recognised him as head of a state and laid red carpet for him. We will look ridiculous to request his arrest after all this and these many years. That is why fingers crossed, let destiny deliver the justice.

jamwal · Post by **jamwal** » 18 Apr 2013 22:43

Narad wrote:Would like to dedicate this song to mush the running tush.

Stealing it

jamwal · Post by **jamwal** » 18 Apr 2013 22:49

Gagan wrote:Mush's House outside Rawalpindi / Islamabad in Chak Shazad including halal coordinates
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6696/mushhouse.jpg

When I wrote that war scenario few decades ago, I imagined that Paki general's house almost exactly like this.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 18 Apr 2013 23:01

Shri Ejaz Haiders program taken off air after a guest insulted Ashphck. Previously when sheikh rasheed insulted zardari, it was repeatedly shown in all TV channels.

nachiket · Post by **nachiket** » 18 Apr 2013 23:02

Looks like mushy's grand return to pakistan is turning out to be yet another demonstration of his "tactical brilliance", complete with downhill skiing and everything.

member_22872 · Post by **member_22872** » 18 Apr 2013 23:08

I apologize if posted before, CNN reports:
In Pakistan, Musharraf placed under house arrest

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 19 Apr 2013 00:12

venug wrote:I apologize if posted before, CNN reports:
In Pakistan, Musharraf placed under house arrest

Next question...........

encounter or "suicide" by hanging in his own house??

somebody has to taste his food too, prior to his eating it.

His ~~bacon~~ err goose is already cooked anyway.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 19 Apr 2013 00:50

This is Kiyani teaching Mushy (and anyone else who may dare try what Mushy was trying to do), a lesson.
Kiyani IS the defacto ruler of Pakistan - the Caliph there.
Mushy, the braggrat thought that massa's protection would protect him on the streets and the jungle that Pakistan is, and that too from the Caliph there?
Hmm, Salman Taseer too thought he was safe and an abdul would not dare reach his 'girebaan'.

Sure, Mushy was lured in, but he was warned, politely by the ISI and other 'well wishers' not to return. But the phool that he is, he didn't heed any one. He had been given a clean break and had been allowed to get out of Pakistan by Kiyani in return for resigning as COAS, and then resigning as Sadar. So Kiyani's debt is done and over.

Now by returning, Mushy is challanging Kiyani himself ! Kiyani's extension is totally dependent on who comes to power in Pakistan (or not). Kiyani is 400% engaged in ensuring that a compliant person comes in. Mushy doesn't have a chance unless the ISI's machinery swings into action in his favour, and Caliph Kiyani ain't about to do that.

So Mushy is going to cool his heels in his farm house, only hope that the CJ doesn't attach that house as ill gotten gains / tax not paid etc etc and impounds it. Mushy made the courts impound Nawaz Sharif's palatial 7 house compound in the middle of Lahore.

Kiyani intends to keep Mushy there - very close by with the sword dangling over his head, should he make any false move. Even now Senior fauji afsars, well wishers and mediators must be meeting with mushy to 'encourage' him not to participate in the elections as a bargain for his safety. Dunno if what Mushy will construe out of these attepmts. But if he doesn't recognize quickly that Kiyani is the Caliph and fall in line, he will be toast.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 19 Apr 2013 00:51

Hmm,
That song by Selena Gomez in Dancing with the Stars in massaland - 400% Kufr
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH79JrxArtU

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 19 Apr 2013 00:55

Mushy house arrested like photocopy khan?

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 19 Apr 2013 01:27

A few years ago, the Paki thread became boring after Mushy left.
Now that he is back, this place is fun again!

Mihaylo · Post by **Mihaylo** » 19 Apr 2013 01:44

chetak wrote:
Next question...........

encounter or "suicide" by hanging in his own house??

somebody has to taste his food too, prior to his eating it.

His ~~bacon~~ err goose is already cooked anyway.

My wish is a Scarface like last stand with the talibunnies and kendo sistahs closing in.....
The farmhouse and farmland looks perfect for such a scenario...

-M

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 19 Apr 2013 01:45

Don't forget that musharraf stepped down in 2008 after kayani met him and had a polite conversation with him.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 19 Apr 2013 02:01

Christian Science Monitor ruminates on Msuhy's fall from grace!
I woukld have sworn its written by some one from teh Forum!

Pakistan wont have Msuhy to kick around anymore

Pakistan won't have Musharraf to kick around anymore

General Musharraf was a somewhat benign autocrat who wanted to be like Ataturk; but his return from exile to get elected in the top job, smacks of miscalculation.

Pakistan's former President and military ruler Pervez Musharraf leaves the High Court in Islamabad, Pakistan, Thursday. Musharraf and his security team pushed past policemen and sped away from a court in the country’s capital on Thursday after his bail was revoked in a case in which he is accused of treason.
(B.K. Bangash/AP)

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By Robert Marquand

posted April 18, 2013 at 4:19 pm EDT

Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan’s former Army chief and national ruler today escaped a set of judges and an Islamabad arrest order, climbed in a black bullet proof SUV, and sped red-faced away for the protection of home.

For General Musharraf, who once held all the reins of power in Pakistan, it seems a spectacle of humiliation and miscalculation, or as the BBC calls it “high drama and farce.”

The Islamabad judges that Musharraf sought to muzzle and dismiss in 2007 now appear to have muzzled him – ultimately thwarting his aim to run for high office May 11, in what will be the first formal civilian transfer of authority in Pakistan’s history.

Musharraf’s lawyers will likely appeal the charges of malfeasance against him for ordering 60 judges to be removed in 2007. But for Musharraf, born in New Delhi before the partition of India and Pakistan, and who of late has been living in self-imposed exile in Dubai and London, a chapter may have closed.

He long dreamed of himself as Pakistan’s Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, forging a path similar to the Turkish military ruler that secularized that Muslim country. He hoped to be a moderating force of reason, a “chief executive,” a secular reformer with clout in a land of Taliban and madrassas, the guy that could keep things together and running while the nation modernized, someone that impressed US Pentagon chief Colin Powell.

But last week Musharraf’s much-touted return to Karachi did not excite crowds; efforts to run his All-Pakistan Muslim League party failed in four districts. And he’s ended up looking more like Don Quixote than an Ataturk.

The Guardian describes Musharraf’s bid to return home as doomed and offers today that the general is:

...politically what Imran Khan was in the mid-1990s, when the famous cricket-turned-philanthropist launched his own career in politics: a high-wattage name that grabs a disproportionate share of the media spotlight but has negligible traction with the voting public. Now that he has been barred from contesting the upcoming general election by a judiciary that has not forgotten Musharraf's attempt in 2007 to sack Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry, Musharraf still faces a sea of legal trouble, brought into sharp focus by Thursday's refusal to extend the bail granted to him last month. Musharraf may yet be able to return to life abroad …but his political obituary has long been written.

Musharraf now finds three criminal cases thrown against him: He’s charged with not providing enough security to prevent the 2007 assassination of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, allegations that he ordered the killing of a Baloch nationalist leader in 2006, and the court case he walked out of today.

Whether Musharraf, who in court brushed past police on his way out, will finally be made an example in his own country and put behind bars is unclear. The Los Angeles Times quotes a prosecuting attorney:

“The security he has been given is only meant to safeguard his life, not to allow him to avoid the law,” said senior lawyer Chaudhry Muhammad Aslam Ghumman, the complainant in the judges' detention case against Musharraf. “They are flouting the law. The people responsible for implementing the order of the court are facilitating the culprit.”

But Musharraf’s lawyers said today that the Islamabad court ruling against him wasn’t about law and order, but was "seemingly motivated by personal vendettas."

Though many Pakistanis started to loath Musharraf by the time he stepped down and he may not have stood a chance at actually securing the position of prime minister, fair questions may be asked about whether Pakistan is better served by fewer candidates running for the high office.

And unlike ostensible current front-runner Nawaz Sharif, who hails from the Punjab, and who in the late 1990s as national leader was unable to reign in the growing jihadis in places like Lahore, Musharraf could crack down. He is one of about two current candidates for high office not part of the small coterie of regional family dynasties that rule the nation.

While Musharraf gets called a former “military dictator,” anyone who has watched Pakistani politics might think the term overly harsh, considering the Muammar Qaddafi or Bashir al Assad end of the “dictator” spectrum. Unlike those dictators, after all, Musharraf stepped down.

{Did he have a choice after Lal Masjid attack? If he stayed Pakistan would have its first Arab Spring and it would have benn called Pakistan Spring instead of Arab spring!}

Future of Pakistan
Pakistan may be just about rid of Musharraf, but in a country where judicial authority has been distorted so often, it remains unclear what kind of future leadership Pakistan will see.

The nation is fractured, faces a need for more IMF bailouts, has an uncertain but powerful military influence, grudges are rife in every direction.

Though today it is a different world than when he last held power, it is worth remembering that at one point Musharraf may truly have been within striking distance of peace with India over the jewel of Kashmir. Steve Coll asked Musharraf about it in an interview he wrote up in 2009 the New Yorker:

"I've always believed in peace between India and Pakistan," [Musharraf] replied. "But it required boldness on both sides. . . . What I find lacking sometimes is this boldness – particularly on the Indian side." He then reviewed a long negotiating session he had had, many years before, with former Indian Prime Minister Vajpayee, in which the pair had tried and failed to agree on a particular joint statement. As he recounted the incident, the pitch of Musharraf's voice rose slightly; he seemed to be reliving his frustration.

He returned to the subject of the 2007 talks. "I wasn't just giving concessions – I was taking from India as well," he said, a touch defensively. Then he calmed. He fixed his gaze and added, "It would have benefitted both India and Pakistan."

Is this the end of the Sarkari Mohajirs in TSP? IOW do the Mohajirs have a place in the elites of Pakistan?

Also shows the touchy feeling that Westerners have for Mushy!!!

He is definitely unka maamu hain.

Good for TSP that it starts asserting regional identity.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 19 Apr 2013 02:03

Mushrat video Message after his arrest orders.