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from twitter:
Big Mouth @killingluks 13m
@barkhadalal @rahulkanwal Do you know that the smriti irani seedhi baat video has been removed from youtube
Big Mouth @killingluks 13m
@barkhadalal @rahulkanwal Do you know that the smriti irani seedhi baat video has been removed from youtube
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Still on their website. We would welcome a detailed response.RoyG wrote: Kejriwal and his band of nacxalites are useless eaters. Whatever happened to all the evidence they had on Modi?
This is a very old charge that keeps being hurled again and again. How many decades has the case against Laloo been in court? There is a systemic issue.They never took him to court. They never take anyone to court it seems. They just shoot and scoot. They don't have any vision for the country besides some idiotic leftist policies.
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Translation of EDITORIAL in SAAMNA of 17/04/2013
Who would be next PM of Hindusthan? A fight has broken out in NDA on this. Elections would be held when held but the fight within NDA before elections would be a world record of sorts. There is no sign of majority as of now, still allies are kicking each other. Somebody has to say that being PM of Hindusthan is not like having a Community Mass Wedding. The time has come for NDA to sit together and take a decision. Bihar CM Nitish Kumar has opposed They have articulated their stand as "We are with BJP but not with Narendra Modi". Nitish Kumar wants PM candidate to be secular etc. He wants who can follow "Raj Dharma". In short, Nitish Kumar has calculations of Muslim votes and hence doesnt want PM with Hindusthani thoughts. This is Nitish Kumar's independent thought. "Godhra" happened when Modi was ruling. Sabarmati Express was burnt. There were Communal Violence after that. Hindus didnt burn Sabarmati Express. Hindu Karsevaks were returning from Ayodhya by Sabarmati Express and the train was burnt at Godhra. This cant be called coincidence. The communal violence was a reaction to Sabarmati Express burning.Had it been Keshubhai or even Vaghela, same reaction would have been from people. The responsibility of riots or reaction by Hindus does not lies with Modi. Babri Structure was demolished in Ayodhya. Kalyan Singh was held responsible for that. Had Kalyan Singh not used bravely the powers he had for Ram Mandir, then Ramayan of Hindu victory wouldn't have happened.
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We would welcome a debate between the 2 sides. Personally I simply welcome all valid points regardless of the individual making them. The bigger mystery is why persons with a violent allergy against certain individuals still insist of raking their names up again and again.RoyG wrote:More of this moron Kejriwals pathetic lies regarding unpaid electricity bills...Why this idiot still has a few supporters on BRF is still a mystery...
http://www.politicallyincorrect.in/
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got a mail asking for donations - From Khejriwal. Nothing from from BJP or anyother party. BJP should ask for donations as it cost huge amount of money and INC has a lot to spending. Siva Sena and Akali Dal may not have any objection for any one from BJP. Bihar is a problem and without BJP Nitish can not win and Muslim+yadav combination is still strong. We can expect INC and LJP to joing the gang as Lalu and INC share a confortable relationship and Lalu is more easily "managable". Further no one will really trust Nitish after this drama. Reports say 12,000 Crores is being given to Bjhar. Money that should be used in hill states etc.
I wonder how DMK is going to react with a JPC report blaming Raja (and thereby DMK) for all the wrong doing.
I wonder how DMK is going to react with a JPC report blaming Raja (and thereby DMK) for all the wrong doing.
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brihaspati wrote:The entire GV and the east coastal sector is opening up for grabs. The regional satraps are weakening - and the polity is fractured. This is the time for "centre-right" (?!) to expand organizationally. Be there, be seen as different, stable - purposive - there for the long term. And if necessary prepared to give up apparent electoral advantages for principled stand on core national issues. There is too much effort - over-effort to appear "minority"-friendly. It will neither win over the "minorities" nor will it help the long and shaky process of self-confidence building in the majority.
Folks here are getting too excited on NaMo becoming PM. Ideally, he should be playing the king-maker role - a person almost groomed for the "presidential" role with a female PM in front. He should be groomed for the time when a more "presidential" form is achieved. But is he that arjuna or the krishna? I think that pair is still not in the limelight at all. They are yet to arrive.
But it will not turn out as being hoped for with the current arrow of destiny from Dvaravati. let's see.
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http://t.co/HHnUBcIBjqHari Seldon wrote:from twitter:
Big Mouth @killingluks 13m
@barkhadalal @rahulkanwal Do you know that the smriti irani seedhi baat video has been removed from youtube
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/video/aaj- ... 62247.html
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spectrum scam does not resonate much with people in TN. scam happened in 'centre' and not in TN and it was a while ago and much scams have flown under the bridge since then. Besides everybody knows that raja did not do it alone and PC, MMS and sonia were all in it together.Narayana Rao wrote:I wonder how DMK is going to react with a JPC report blaming Raja (and thereby DMK) for all the wrong doing.
imo, the srilankan issue will be the one that hurts them hardest..plus people still remember the horrible powercuts and non-governance and use of power for family benefits (spectrum being only one of these abuses). JJ has managed to keep her cadre under control (not too much corruption or at least not stuff that leaks out due to excess), has introduced schemes for poor like 1 rs idly etc, power situation has improved and probably will be ok by end of year. if things trend like this, a wipeout for dmk and inc won't be a surprise.
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Published on Apr 18 2013
By G. Sampath
That Narendra Modi joke you’ve never heard: Live Mint
In the whole vast limitless universe of the World Wide Web, there is not a single joke about Narendra Modi
Interesting notion the author has, but if Modi's opponents don't know how to make jokes about him as they are too scared, why does the author feel Modi's supporters ought to think up of Modi jokes.
By G. Sampath
That Narendra Modi joke you’ve never heard: Live Mint
In the whole vast limitless universe of the World Wide Web, there is not a single joke about Narendra Modi
Interesting notion the author has, but if Modi's opponents don't know how to make jokes about him as they are too scared, why does the author feel Modi's supporters ought to think up of Modi jokes.
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^^^
Not true, there are lot of NaMo jokes on Faking news and unreal times. Mostly +ve.
I posted one, just a few days back.
Not true, there are lot of NaMo jokes on Faking news and unreal times. Mostly +ve.
I posted one, just a few days back.
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Earlier I used to think Dr. Manmohan Singh was India's PM. Now I think he is just an android, not even a cyborg. Often people forget to plug him in to charge him, and so he often sits motionless. I think they need a battery change too. I don't think they use wind-up keys on him. I think it is a real battery.

Probably a first effort at Surrogate technology. If somebody has some evidence that "Dr. Manmohan Singh" is a real human, please do share.
I think we are being conned by the congress!

Probably a first effort at Surrogate technology. If somebody has some evidence that "Dr. Manmohan Singh" is a real human, please do share.
I think we are being conned by the congress!
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Err, I dont think Rajesh was joking you know.Arun Menon wrote:^![]()
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I have seriously thinking about his since a long time. BTW can I copy your post in another forum?RajeshA wrote:Earlier I used to think Dr. Manmohan Singh was India's PM. Now I think he is just an android, not even a cyborg. Often people forget to plug him in to charge him, and so he often sits motionless. I think they need a battery change too. I don't think they use wind-up keys on him. I think it is a real battery.
Probably a first effort at Surrogate technology. If somebody has some evidence that "Dr. Manmohan Singh" is a real human, please do share.
I think we are being conned by the congress!
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apoorv ji,
yes you can of course copy the post to another forum. I hope perhaps some people in the other forum can provide some evidence.
Perhaps you can also ask them following questions?
1) If he is not an android, how can he have a clean image even though he is in the Congress? Hain ji?
2) I think the support service agreement for this surrogate model was only ten years. Otherwise why else is the Congress unwilling to declare their PM "candidate" for 2014? I think there is conflict between the Congress Leadership and the Servicing Company on the terms for the next Surrogate Model. I think Congress is demanding that the next model should support "humor" and "good speeches" and not act "so dull". The Servicing Company however does not have the software ready for such drastic upgrades. Hence we have no PM candidate from Congress for 2014.
3) Why all the cabinet colleagues when they enter the room for cabinet meetings, do not as much as say "Good Morning" to "Dr. Manmohan Singh" or even notice him?
4) Also I would also like to know from the other forum, if anybody knows of any previous assignments "Mrs. Gursharan Kaur" had in her acting career? Films, Theater, anything?
TIA
Sorry for the on tangent, but in view of this dhakka to my previous confidence in "Dr. Manmohan Singh" being a human being, I hope you all will pardon me.
yes you can of course copy the post to another forum. I hope perhaps some people in the other forum can provide some evidence.
Perhaps you can also ask them following questions?
1) If he is not an android, how can he have a clean image even though he is in the Congress? Hain ji?
2) I think the support service agreement for this surrogate model was only ten years. Otherwise why else is the Congress unwilling to declare their PM "candidate" for 2014? I think there is conflict between the Congress Leadership and the Servicing Company on the terms for the next Surrogate Model. I think Congress is demanding that the next model should support "humor" and "good speeches" and not act "so dull". The Servicing Company however does not have the software ready for such drastic upgrades. Hence we have no PM candidate from Congress for 2014.
3) Why all the cabinet colleagues when they enter the room for cabinet meetings, do not as much as say "Good Morning" to "Dr. Manmohan Singh" or even notice him?
4) Also I would also like to know from the other forum, if anybody knows of any previous assignments "Mrs. Gursharan Kaur" had in her acting career? Films, Theater, anything?
TIA
Sorry for the on tangent, but in view of this dhakka to my previous confidence in "Dr. Manmohan Singh" being a human being, I hope you all will pardon me.
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Madhu Kishwar speaking on her Modinama findings
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^Bad quality, but what a eyeopening video. Please someone find a better quality upload.
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I wasn't crazy when I said assassination is a real possibility.
Many corrupt and anti national elements will be executed or spend life in Tihar if Modi comes to power.Subramanian Swamy @Swamy39 7h
@Maqboolfida @madhukishwar @narendramodi : Independently of Madhu ji we can say TDK would like to see Modi dead.
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JD(U) Devesh Chandra Thakur announces that Modi is unacceptable. Shadow boxing is being played.
http://www.timesnow.tv/Debate-JDU-BJP-r ... 425547.cms
http://www.timesnow.tv/Debate-JDU-BJP-r ... 425547.cms
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Rajesh your photo about young, old and where they stand kinda messes the forum format. Kindly adjust onlee.
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Published on Apr 18, 2013
By R Vaidyanathan
Rahul Gandhi doesn’t get it! India needs a strong leader: Niti Central
By R Vaidyanathan
Rahul Gandhi doesn’t get it! India needs a strong leader: Niti Central
In a recent speech at a CII conference Rahul Gandhi made an observation that our problems are complicated and it needs a grass-root level solution. He added that waiting for a man to come on a white horse to solve our problems may be futile.
This is a standard argument of large number of experts who are for ‘System Change’ or more particularly ‘Structural Changes’ to make things happen.
In our context, individuals do matter substantially and institutions are made or broken by the efforts or failures of individuals. We are less of a rule-based society and more of a relationship-based one. Because of thousands of years of foreign rule we have lesser faith in institutions than individuals.
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Vasundhara Raje indicates preference for Modi as PM candidate
NEW DELHI: Senior BJP leader Vasundhara Raje today appeared to favour Narendra Modi as the party's Prime Ministerial candidate claiming that he was popular not just in Gujarat but across the country.
"There's something that Narendra Modi is doing right, that people are appreciating. Narendra Modi knows the pulse of his people, therefore there is great synergy at play," said Raje while speaking at the 'India Today Woman Summit' organised by the TV Today Group.
Asked why Modi was preferred by the party and not a woman including herself for the top job, she said Modi had 15 years of Chief Ministership behind him while she had only five.
Raje said that during her yatra in Rajasthan people start celebrating whenever Modi's name crops up in the course of her speech. He is doing something right that people appreciated him all over, she added.
The former Rajasthan Chief Minister said she would be inviting Modi to campaign for her in the state, saying he was very popular among the masses. "Why not"? she said when asked if she would ask the Gujarat Chief Minister to campaign for her in Rajasthan.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 635710.cms
NEW DELHI: Senior BJP leader Vasundhara Raje today appeared to favour Narendra Modi as the party's Prime Ministerial candidate claiming that he was popular not just in Gujarat but across the country.
"There's something that Narendra Modi is doing right, that people are appreciating. Narendra Modi knows the pulse of his people, therefore there is great synergy at play," said Raje while speaking at the 'India Today Woman Summit' organised by the TV Today Group.
Asked why Modi was preferred by the party and not a woman including herself for the top job, she said Modi had 15 years of Chief Ministership behind him while she had only five.
Raje said that during her yatra in Rajasthan people start celebrating whenever Modi's name crops up in the course of her speech. He is doing something right that people appreciated him all over, she added.
The former Rajasthan Chief Minister said she would be inviting Modi to campaign for her in the state, saying he was very popular among the masses. "Why not"? she said when asked if she would ask the Gujarat Chief Minister to campaign for her in Rajasthan.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 635710.cms
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Tadka aka Antonia MainoSupratik wrote:Who is TDK?
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Bharat is the ultimate reality for all Indians and Indian interests. How they are 'perceived' by other nations/societies/vested-interests/ and even religions is nothing but PratiBimba.ramana wrote:vishvak:Bimba/Reality- PratiBimba/reflection or virtual reality
The drama in US is partibimba to influence the bimba or reality in India.
How all these PratiBimbas tried to influence the Bimba is the history of Bharat!
If People can contemplate on this, then it will become clear on why Bharat Rakshak forum is what it is and where it is heading.
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There is this womenleader conference going on and Sonia is not invited!
Who is going to question Sonia on the happenings in Delhi? The Sphinx always beyond reproach? Never a single utterance in public on an important public issue? Never a grilling interview in the last several years?
Instead of what LKA or BJP or D4 should do, we should talk about the ideas (or complete lack of ideas) from the Dynasty here.
It is not that there are dearth of CongI supporters, it is just that they do not have any ideas to discuss - all of them reduced to #internetpappus. Ably assisted by Sphinx a.k.a #TermiteQueen.
So here is a start to get ideas for Sphinx #TermiteQueen:
1. What will #TermiteQueen say regarding the 5 year old kid raped and sodomized for 3-4 days in Delhi?
A. #TheekHai?
B. #ChaltaHai?
C. #InternetHindus did it.
D. Is Gujarat is lagging behind women empowerment?
E. A new law will be passed.
Who is going to question Sonia on the happenings in Delhi? The Sphinx always beyond reproach? Never a single utterance in public on an important public issue? Never a grilling interview in the last several years?
Instead of what LKA or BJP or D4 should do, we should talk about the ideas (or complete lack of ideas) from the Dynasty here.
It is not that there are dearth of CongI supporters, it is just that they do not have any ideas to discuss - all of them reduced to #internetpappus. Ably assisted by Sphinx a.k.a #TermiteQueen.
So here is a start to get ideas for Sphinx #TermiteQueen:
1. What will #TermiteQueen say regarding the 5 year old kid raped and sodomized for 3-4 days in Delhi?
A. #TheekHai?
B. #ChaltaHai?
C. #InternetHindus did it.
D. Is Gujarat is lagging behind women empowerment?
E. A new law will be passed.
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I believe Congroid is the word used for this new Man-Mechanical Species device .RajeshA wrote:Earlier I used to think Dr. Manmohan Singh was India's PM. Now I think he is just an android, not even a cyborg. Often people forget to plug him in to charge him, and so he often sits motionless. I think they need a battery change too. I don't think they use wind-up keys on him. I think it is a real battery.Probably a first effort at Surrogate technology. If somebody has some evidence that "Dr. Manmohan Singh" is a real human, please do share.I think we are being conned by the congress!
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All the above.disha wrote:.............
It is not that there are dearth of CongI supporters, it is just that they do not have any ideas to discuss - all of them reduced to #internetpappus. Ably assisted by Sphinx a.k.a #TermiteQueen.
So here is a start to get ideas for Sphinx #TermiteQueen:
1. What will #TermiteQueen say regarding the 5 year old kid raped and sodomized for 3-4 days in Delhi?
A. #TheekHai?
B. #ChaltaHai?
C. #InternetHindus did it.
D. Is Gujarat is lagging behind women empowerment?
E. A new law will be passed.
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Meanwhile the kalaingar has outdone himself. Why in the NM thread - coz Nitish will likely follow this dirtbag's trail...
‘Hindu-thief’ remark returns to haunt M Karunanidhi
‘Hindu-thief’ remark returns to haunt M Karunanidhi
Now, if only the yindooze had laid seige to Gemini flyover and pelted stones on the US consulate to register their protest (like the momeen have routinely taklen to doing of late) perhaps the kalmooyinger would have noticed only, who knows, eh?CHENNAI: Nearly 11 years ago, DMK president M Karunanidhi reportedly made a controversial statement that the term 'Hindu' meant 'thief'. A criminal case filed against him for hurting the sentiments of Hindus by making the statement has now returned to haunt him. On Friday, Justice N Kirubakaran of the Madras high court issued a notice on a petition seeking registration of a case and fair investigation into the matter.
It all started on October 24, 2002 when newspapers carried Karunanidhi's statement that the term 'Hindu' meant 'thief'. When criticism poured in, Karunanidhi reiterated his interpretation a few days later and quoted Hindi Vishwa Kosh to justify his statement.
Describing it as Hindu-bashing which hurt the sentiments of people, a criminal complaint was lodged by B R Gouthaman with the city police, stating that these statements had created unrest in society.
When the Mambalam police did not register a first information report, he filed a petition in the high court. On November 17, 2005, the high court asked police to register a case if a prima facie case is made out. Accordingly, police registered an FIR on January 6, 2006.
As there was no progress in the probe till 2011, when the DMK was in power, Gouthaman's counsel G Karthikeyan approached the HC again. "Mr Karunanidhi has made it a habit to pass irreverent comments on Hinduism, its practices and beliefs," he said. "He being a reputed political leader, many of his followers and people from different organisations are delivering speeches, taking a cue from him, which offend the sentiments of Hindus," he said.
Karthikeyan further submitted that whenever he contacted police to know the status of the FIR, he was given a bland reply that investigation was still in progress.
When the matter came up for hearing on Friday, Tamil Nadu public prosecutor Shanmugavelayudham informed the court that he would file a report on the matter before the court. Justice Kirubakaran then adjourned the matter to April 23 for further hearing.
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Meanwhile, another thing NM will need to set right:
Ram Navami rituals not allowed at Ayodhya site
Ram Navami rituals not allowed at Ayodhya site
Yup. The HIndu is still a second class citizen in the only country he can really call his own. fFor now, that is.FAIZABAD/AYODHYA: For the first time in 64 years, the district administration didn't allow the special Ram Navami rituals at the Ram Janmabhoomi in Ayodhya as per a Supreme Court order passed 19 years ago. Despite the apex court's order, the rituals were performed every year.
However, this year the administrative authorities took the decision following strong opposition from Hashim Ansari, the first appellant in the Ram Janmabhoomi-Babri Masjid title suit.
The Ram Janmabhoomi Seva Samiti has been performing traditional rituals despite the Supreme Court through its various orders restraining any religious activity on the acquired land of Babri Masjid and Ram Janmabhoomi. The chief priest appointed by the court, Acharya Satyender Das, is authorised to offer only daily prayers at the disputed site but no special prayer is allowed.
Faizabad DM Vipin Kumar Diwedi had earlier clarified that the administration would abide by the Supreme Court orders. So, when on Friday the samiti members reached the first entry point of the acquired area — the Rang Mahal barrier — they were stopped and the metal 'kalash' (urn) was taken by a local priest arranged by the administration there. Talking to TOI, the chief priest of Ram Janmabhoomi said, "One of my followers took the kalash, but it was not offered to Ram Lalla in the makeshift temple."
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dekhtey dekhtey Guj has become the de-facto standard against which all claims of development are being measured, even by diehard NM-foes. wah bhai wah only.
Hooda claims Haryana better performing than Gujarat (ToI)
Hooda claims Haryana better performing than Gujarat (ToI)
One can only wonder what would happen to the much vaunted Haryana model if the realty price support offered by Delhi's proximity weren't around only. But whatever, good that states are now competing publicly on the NaMo development plank - clearly it matters to voters and can no longer be ignored, seems like.NEW DELHI: Fierce competition seems to have broken out among chief ministers to project their achievements. After Bihar CM Nitish Kumar's claim of how his government had pushed growth in the state from near zero, Haryana CM Bhupinder Singh Hooda on Friday claimed his state was ahead of Narendra Modi's Gujarat in four key parameters, including per capita income, per capita investment, per capita plan expenditure and resource mobilization.
The state government has launched a media campaign to highlight its achievements in different areas.
Speaking at an event to promote investment opportunities in Haryana, Hooda said there were four primary parameters to evaluate a state's growth story. He said Haryana was number one in per capita investment and also number one in per capita income among bigger states. Per capita plan expenditure of Haryana was also the highest in the country.
Hooda added that as per a Planning Commission report, resource mobilization in Haryana during the 11th five-year plan was 192% of the projected mobilization against the national average of 92.5%. "I know only about Haryana model of development, which is very successful and can be verified on these parameters," he said.
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^Only in words, not in deed. This is like Kerala patting itself in the back while quoting its HDI lead over Gujarat. This has been and is so due to its own special circumstances and has hardly any bearing in other matters. It still a state full of overeducated underemployed youth with no industrial development and a perpetually beggared state govt. A unnaturally large percentage of the population works abroad or out of state and feeds the rest of the state with their remittances. Just harping on HDI while forgetting all this is hardly worthwhile. The same seems to be the intention of these congi and congi sympathetic CMs. Its like a woman claiming that she has a better nose than Ash, while the rest of her face is distorted like a Picasso.
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The guy is babbling trivial nonsense.RajeshA wrote:Published on Apr 18 2013
By G. Sampath
That Narendra Modi joke you’ve never heard: Live Mint
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The internal competition will force at least one of the claimants to take an overt role. Having an 'arrangement' like the Kongis where all the critical energy is consumed on a Robot and the real culprits come out periodically to take the credit, looks lucrative and makes sense for Sanghis too. But the situation is different here:Sanku wrote:brihaspati wrote:The entire GV and the east coastal sector is opening up for grabs. The regional satraps are weakening - and the polity is fractured. This is the time for "centre-right" (?!) to expand organizationally. Be there, be seen as different, stable - purposive - there for the long term. And if necessary prepared to give up apparent electoral advantages for principled stand on core national issues. There is too much effort - over-effort to appear "minority"-friendly. It will neither win over the "minorities" nor will it help the long and shaky process of self-confidence building in the majority.
Folks here are getting too excited on NaMo becoming PM. Ideally, he should be playing the king-maker role - a person almost groomed for the "presidential" role with a female PM in front. He should be groomed for the time when a more "presidential" form is achieved. But is he that arjuna or the krishna? I think that pair is still not in the limelight at all. They are yet to arrive.
But it will not turn out as being hoped for with the current arrow of destiny from Dvaravati. let's see.
1) Unlike Kongi case, janata is coalescing around NM. Kongis OTOH are not burdened by this aspect. This Dhruvikaran needs a face.
2) The old timers who should have helped in the larger hindutva cause are competing with one of their own, who is bringing in a different flavour to hindutva, probably reinventing it for good. No such competition within Kongis. To avoid confusion within the larger support base and to build further credibility the face, voice and intention has to match. The credibility issue remains wherever shadow boxing is to be carried out and BJP cannot escape this feature.
3) Sangh supporters get motivated by clarity and get demotivated by ambiguity. For Kongis the ambiguity is money-minting time, they are better players there. Again briings up the issue of overt leadership for BJP.
4) Sangh is already weak in the GV. Only a full blown RJB type movement can bind different caste groupings. Unfortunately this seems like not happening for multiple reasons.
5) Kongis represent the inertia (won't move unless pushed, won't stop unless stopped, won't change direction unless deflected) in such a case it helps their cause to have a dispersed vote bank stationed mostly in poverty stricken areas or areas experiencing new found rootlessness. OTOH until now at least BJP has represented a party with a difference sporting an agenda that was not se_y or looked ominous but was nonetheless necessary. This kind of stand requires a further firing up of the cadre' imagination and of the new entrants. Basically this is about fueling the cycle. This cycle would because of its very nature have to become overt.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64TcaAgZLFk
Hindi press inverview. Slowly things are coming out.
Siddiki Interview of Modi mentioned above. Audio recoridng.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7W61h2hpRo
Hindi press inverview. Slowly things are coming out.
Siddiki Interview of Modi mentioned above. Audio recoridng.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7W61h2hpRo
Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India
Very true. Congress would never give definitions. Congress leadership never holds press conferences. There is never any effort to be clear about any policy.ravi_g wrote:3) Sangh supporters get motivated by clarity and get demotivated by ambiguity.
Secularism and Socialism are not defined, so Congress can go on doing its Islamo-Christianist and Populist agenda without any rok-tok!
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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India
Bunch of breaking news and gossip from news.rediff
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some interesting excerpts..
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some interesting excerpts..
16:47 Some JD-U members to change camps over Nitish speech?: Apprehensions are rife about a possible split in the Parliamentary party of the Janata Dal-United as many of them disapprove of the harsh speech by Bihar Chief Minister NItish Kumar on Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi and his party, the BJP.
A senior JD-U MP is in touch with both the Congress the BJP -- indicating that six MPs would be ready to cross over at any point of time.
These MPs are stoutly opposed to the extra influence of JD-U Rajya Sabha member N K Singh on Nitish. Grapevine is that JD-U president Sharad Yadav is the brains behind this coup. But he is unlikely to come out in the open against Nitish.
Here's the big one... if true this changes quite a bit,,,17:13 Amit Shah set for a bigger role in BJP : A correspondent from Delhi reports: Speculation is ripe in the headquarters of BJP that party general secretary Amit Shah, a confidant of Narendra Modi, is likely to get a major post among BJP office-bearers.
Industrialists and IPS and IAS officers of the Gujarat cadre are now making a beeline to get an audience with Amit 'bhai' Indications are that Amit Shah will be given the charge of states like Maharashtra, Rajasthan and Madhya Pradesh.
It is crucial for the BJP to win at least 65 seats.Shah has reportedly already worked out a strategy for the party to win the maximum number of seats in Gujarat.
17:11 Why are top babus meeting Jaitley and Swaraj?: A correspondent from Delhi reports: Buzz at the BJP headquarters in Delhi suggests that at least ten to fifteen senior IPS and IAS officers have been secretly meeting Leaders of Opposition Sushma Swaraj and Arun Jaitely to indicate their neutrality and explain their predicament on some important file notings, during the UPA government's regime.
The BJP has further hardened its opposition to the appointment of former NIA chief S C Sinha as a member of the National Human Rights Commission.
These bureaucrats, some of whom are two or three years away from retirement, are scared that the Congress-led coalition will crumble, the BJP-led NDA will come to power and Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi will take over the prime minister's post.
They are trying to secure their future posting etc via such clandestine meetings.
*If* true, NM-rajnath duo will have consolidated his hold over the BJP org. only.17:38 Will BJP deny tickets to Yashwant, Advani? : A correspondent from Delhi reports: According to gossip in BJP headquarters, top leaders like Yashwant Sinha, Jaswant Singh, Dr Murli Manohar Joshi, Shanta Kumar and LK Advani may not get tickets to contest the Lok Sabha election.
An exercise is going on to identify top ten leaders who have been troublesome for the BJP high command during crucial times. The Congress is not very far behind in denying Lok Sabha tickets to senior leaders but the party is exercising caution about publicising the names.
Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India
So India is becoming more and more like China?!Hari Seldon wrote:Here's the big one... if true this changes quite a bit,,,*If* true, NM-rajnath duo will have consolidated his hold over the BJP org. only.17:38 Will BJP deny tickets to Yashwant, Advani? : A correspondent from Delhi reports: According to gossip in BJP headquarters, top leaders like Yashwant Sinha, Jaswant Singh, Dr Murli Manohar Joshi, Shanta Kumar and LK Advani may not get tickets to contest the Lok Sabha election.
An exercise is going on to identify top ten leaders who have been troublesome for the BJP high command during crucial times. The Congress is not very far behind in denying Lok Sabha tickets to senior leaders but the party is exercising caution about publicising the names.



It is indeed difficult for the new generation to work in a new dispensation if they have to keep on worrying about varishtha netas and what they think!
In 15 years, Rajnath Singh and Narendra Modi too would have to step down and make way for the next tier of leaders!
Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India
^^^ That is okay. There should be term limit from top down. You put term limits everywhere (down to the local municipalities) things will improve. This was one of JLNs major failure after Ambedkars.