Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 19 Apr 2013 18:24

So all it it takes is one Hindu name, and Hindus and India have to get worried. Muslims and Pakistan are involved in countless crusades, yet they go as they please. The so called Hindu house is not in order - split and confused.

Garooda · Post by **Garooda** » 19 Apr 2013 18:24

Rajiv Lather wrote:Some people on this forum owe an apology to Anmol.
The Americans have lots of egg on their faces, and they tried their best to delay the outing of the real nationality. A security expert on CNN was just saying that Chechen fighters have lately been seen fighting on the side of the Syrian rebels. And who is supporting and arming the Syrian rebels ?

Interestingly enough even though this came out 2 days ago, it is interesting that he made the comment.
West_Will_Pay_For_This

Syrian President Bashar Assad has cautioned in a TV interview that the West will pay a heavy price for allegedly helping Al-Qaeda extremists in the country’s two-year uprising, adding that the government’s defeat is out of the question.
In the statement that was made on Wednesday to state channel Al Ikhbariya, Assad warned that "The West has paid heavily for funding Al-Qaeda in its early stages. Today it is doing the same in Syria, Libya and other places, and will pay a heavy price in the heart of Europe and the United States."
He stressed that "from the first day, what is happening in Syria is dictated from abroad."

Rajiv Lather · Post by **Rajiv Lather** » 19 Apr 2013 18:26

CRamS wrote:... So it could be a case where these guys heard a lot about land of milk and honey, freedom yada yada. Then they come here and realize that average American gives a rat's ass to what goes on in Checnya, much less have any sympathy for them. In other words, they are on their own with very little societal support, and then they see US policies in the mid east, against Muslim countries US doesn't like, the general anti-Muslim prejudice etc, and a deep sense of being rejected, let down and disillusionment sets in.

hahaha now look here; the theory of "self-radicalization" here on our forum too...

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 19 Apr 2013 18:26

It's like we have these burly LEOs with snazzy weapons and cars chasing Sunil and Mike all over Boston. After a shootout one says hey we got a guy.who is he Mike or Sunil? Any ID? Yes Sir, ID is Timurlane Tsarnaev some Russian name....WHAT???? Where's Mike, where's Sunil? Don't know Saar! OK looks our suspects are CHechnyan..lets bomb North Korea. Reeks of Eyeraq!

Garooda · Post by **Garooda** » 19 Apr 2013 18:29

Sushupti wrote:See thishttp://twitter.com/karmicvoyage/status/325206569040105472/photo/1

Ek desi hi doosre desi ki maarne pe tulaa hua rehtaa hai..even in US. What a shame.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 19 Apr 2013 18:36

CRamS wrote:I heard something on cable noise network (CNN) a little while ago where they said the dead guy was hoping to have a great life in US but felt he just didn't understand Americans, didn't have any American friend etc. So it could be a case where these guys heard a lot about land of milk and honey, freedom yada yada. Then they come here and realize that average American gives a rat's ass to what goes on in Checnya, much less have any sympathy for them. In other words, they are on their own with very little societal support, and then they see US policies in the mid east, against Muslim countries US doesn't like, the general anti-Muslim prejudice etc, and a deep sense of being rejected, let down and disillusionment sets in.

very weak explanation sire. the avg american gives a rats arse about what happens in india or denmark as well. and the same lack of social support is the lot of FOB desis also. they also see US funding TSP hand over fist.

is there a general anti muslim prejudice - I dont think so. muslims can head to toe burqa and pray all they want and nobody is really bothered so long as
they dont break any laws. what prejudice?

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 19 Apr 2013 18:36

CRamS wrote:I heard something on cable noise network (CNN) a little while ago where they said the dead guy was hoping to have a great life in US but felt he just didn't understand Americans, didn't have any American friend etc. So it could be a case where these guys heard a lot about land of milk and honey, freedom yada yada. Then they come here and realize that average American gives a rat's ass to what goes on in Checnya, much less have any sympathy for them. In other words, they are on their own with very little societal support, and then they see US policies in the mid east, against Muslim countries US doesn't like, the general anti-Muslim prejudice etc, and a deep sense of being rejected, let down and disillusionment sets in.

Regular Jhalaks delivered to the ossieules in US state dept and the CFR types by such self radicalized lone wolf jehadis should in time make them roll back their tactically brilliant offshore balancing strategies employing Islamists in the great game of 21st century . My only regret with this whole sordid affair is that the dumb camelfcuks targetted Boston marathon of all places leaving aside all such targets where recurrent causalities could have really changed the way american "policy elite" look at the meaning to the phrase "collateral damage".

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 19 Apr 2013 18:39

I suspect only a few european outlets like guardian, le monde and der spiegel will in some time question where and how these guys came to america.

rest will toe the line. as for our indian media ha ha ha. they will copy paste from cnn and shut the book.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 19 Apr 2013 18:41

If they are Chechens, they could be connected to KSM's Jandullah.

Garooda · Post by **Garooda** » 19 Apr 2013 18:51

One of the brothers had posted this on utube.

Utube_Video_Article

Theo_Fidel · Post by **Theo_Fidel** » 19 Apr 2013 18:51

Can we now inflict collective punishment on white Caucasians?
Terrorist white Caucasians!!

Crams,

That was particularly execrable...

rgsrini · Post by **rgsrini** » 19 Apr 2013 18:51

It is ridiculous that with all the forces at its disposal, they were unable to capture him alive. I don't think the security forces are trained properly, to capture the people alive. What a shame! What is the use of all the power and money, if they are unable to take away the weapon from one single individual within a country that they have complete control?

Most likely the older brother would have been the mastermind. Now no one will know what motivated him, other than conjecture coming out of the analysts' rear end.

Theo_Fidel · Post by **Theo_Fidel** » 19 Apr 2013 18:53

It appears that he had an explosive or flammable substance strapped/on him. It was the burns that complicated the situation. Apparently taken alive and died at the hospital.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 19 Apr 2013 18:54

CRamS,

>>Guys, I must tell you, had this Boston terror attack been even faintly associated with a Hindu name, the damage to India would have been unmeasurable with so many f!cking traitors in our midst.

Way I remember, there was a chap called David Headley who was involved in the murder of over 170 people in Mumbai not many years ago. Don't remember too well, but was he an American citizen who worked for the FBI/DEA and is now in US custody with no hope of extradition to India? The damage to America is hardly immeasurable. Hell, it is not even measurable. Must be because India does not hold a candle to America in terms of ability to respond to terror and the resources it can bring to bear.

Garooda · Post by **Garooda** » 19 Apr 2013 18:55

Law enforcement agencies has tweeted for a Grey Honda CRV, Mass plate 316-ES9 supposedly in NYC area.

rgsrini · Post by **rgsrini** » 19 Apr 2013 18:56

^^Theo,
After a botched job, no one will accept that they screwed up.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 19 Apr 2013 18:57

If they turn out to be chechen islamic militants, Putin will be a very happy man.

Theo_Fidel · Post by **Theo_Fidel** » 19 Apr 2013 19:00

SwamyG wrote:The so called Hindu house is not in order - split and confused.

The real split is non-citizens calling Indian citizens and residents as traitors. This continues to baffle me....

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 19 Apr 2013 19:04

Either it has to be pakis or paki-ism., the later case is obvious here in Boston.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 19 Apr 2013 19:09

Rangudu wrote:svenkat,

Don't hold your breath. Ain't gonna happen. Bubbas here can't tell one brown group from another, even if the suspects are a whiter shade of brown

They have maligned a home-grown American family,dragged 'Hindu brahmin marxist' and thrown mud at the most law abiding educated model minority.I hope against hope the Indian media focusses on the prejudice against Hindus.

An average kuppan or suppan even in India will not know that Tripathi is a brahmin surname.This is deliberate social experiment.

Theo_Fidel · Post by **Theo_Fidel** » 19 Apr 2013 19:15

rgsrini wrote:^^Theo,
After a botched job, no one will accept that they screwed up.

Its possible, but that was what the hospital said not the police.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 19 Apr 2013 19:17

lowell is a small town around 20 miles north of CBD...high number of hispanic and vietnamese immigrants. I used to live there a couple years!

Dead bombing suspect boxed in Lowell Golden Gloves
By Rick Sobey, [email protected]
Posted: 04/19/2013 08:29:54 AM EDT

Tamerlan Tsarnaev, left, accepts the trophy for winning the 2010 New England Golden Gloves Championship in Lowell from Dr. Joseph Downes. (SUN/JULIA MALAKIE)
LOWELL -- The Boston Marathon suspect who died in a gunfight early Friday morning is a Lowell Golden Gloves boxer who told The Sun in 2004 "I like the USA" after winning his first fight here.

Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, was reportedly chased down by officials in a massive manhunt and killed Friday morning. His brother, Dzhokhar, 19, is still on the run.

Tamerlan grew up in Grozny, Chechnya, the capital city of the Cechen Republic. Much of Grozny was destroyed during the Russia-Chechen conflict, and Tsarnaev and his family moved to the United States in 2003 in hopes of starting a new life, according to a Sun article from Jan. 21, 2004.

Tsarnaev fought in Lowell in the 178-pound novice class in 2004, and won that January night.

"I wanted to fight in the Gloves to see how I would do," Tsarnaev told The Sun that night. "So far, so good."

He also said: "I like the USA ... America has a lot of jobs. That's something Russia doesn't have. You have a chance to make money here if you are willing to work."

Tsarnaev's said his first love was music. He said he studied music at a school in Russia and played the piano and violin.

Tsarnaev later represented Team New England in the National Golden Gloves Tournament of Champions in 2009 and 2010.

Read more: http://www.sentinelandenterprise.com/br ... z2QuzUCdR3

rgsrini · Post by **rgsrini** » 19 Apr 2013 19:18

^^Saar,
Even in this forum, we went back and edited photos and comments of 2 whites, when they were incorrectly named as suspects. Will the same consideration be given to the poor unfortunate Tripathi, or does it not apply to lowly Indians?

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 19 Apr 2013 19:19

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, who is currently being hunted, was the captain of the wrestling team at Cambridge R&L.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 19 Apr 2013 19:20

thats a huge perimeter .... perhaps 20-30 miles E-W ... everything inside I-90 more or less.

All taxi service suspended in Boston
Several courts are closed due to search
MBTA service is suspended
Many businesses close their offices
Amtrak service temporarily suspended between Boston and Providence, R.I.
Vehicle traffic in and out of Watertown is suspended
People in Watertown, Boston, Brookline, Waltham, Newton, Belmont, Cambridge, and Allston/Brighton are under orders to stay indoors and keep businesses closed
Many Boston colleges and universities are closed
The MFA, Boston Children's Museum, and Museum of Science are closed

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 19 Apr 2013 19:20

Why exactly did they cause so much commotion? Possible they may have been shooting up coke.

Garooda · Post by **Garooda** » 19 Apr 2013 19:21

Images and other information about one of the brothers.
More_About_Dzhokhar_Tsarnaev

His Dad Says He's a Medical Student and an "Angel"
This is bizarre, but apparently the AP has caught up with Tsarnaev's father who is claiming he's a second-year medical student. "My son is a true angel ... Dzhokhar is a second-year medical student in the U.S. He is such an intelligent boy. We expected him to come on holidays here." the AP reports. Second-year medical students aren't usually 19, and this is the first time that Dzhokhar's career aspirations have been mentioned.
According to ABC News, Tsarnaev's father spoke to them yesterday and asked them if they were hurt in the bombings.

His Uncle Called Him a Loser

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 19 Apr 2013 19:25

Singha wrote:lowell is a small town around 20 miles north of CBD...high number of hispanic and vietnamese immigrants. I used to live there a couple years!

Dead bombing suspect boxed in Lowell Golden Gloves
By Rick Sobey, [email protected]
Posted: 04/19/2013 08:29:54 AM EDT

Tamerlan Tsarnaev, left, accepts the trophy for winning the 2010 New England Golden Gloves Championship in Lowell from Dr. Joseph Downes. (SUN/JULIA MALAKIE)
LOWELL -- The Boston Marathon suspect who died in a gunfight early Friday morning is a Lowell Golden Gloves boxer who told The Sun in 2004 "I like the USA" after winning his first fight here.

Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, was reportedly chased down by officials in a massive manhunt and killed Friday morning. His brother, Dzhokhar, 19, is still on the run.

Tamerlan grew up in Grozny, Chechnya, the capital city of the Cechen Republic. Much of Grozny was destroyed during the Russia-Chechen conflict, and Tsarnaev and his family moved to the United States in 2003 in hopes of starting a new life, according to a Sun article from Jan. 21, 2004.

Tsarnaev fought in Lowell in the 178-pound novice class in 2004, and won that January night.

"I wanted to fight in the Gloves to see how I would do," Tsarnaev told The Sun that night. "So far, so good."

He also said: "I like the USA ... America has a lot of jobs. That's something Russia doesn't have. You have a chance to make money here if you are willing to work."

Tsarnaev's said his first love was music. He said he studied music at a school in Russia and played the piano and violin.

Tsarnaev later represented Team New England in the National Golden Gloves Tournament of Champions in 2009 and 2010.

Read more: http://www.sentinelandenterprise.com/br ... z2QuzUCdR3

Just goes to show these Islamic fundamentalists can smile, drink, etc but deep inside their brain Islam is hermetically sealed in a titanium shell untouched by the world around them.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 19 Apr 2013 19:30

state police, ATF, NG, swat, local cops...anyone with a uniform who can hold a gun is out on the hunt today

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massac ... html?pg=37

what looks like army guy leads a long line of cops ... swat are out not in small teams but entire sections and platoons as many as their vans can hold

Rajiv Lather · Post by **Rajiv Lather** » 19 Apr 2013 19:34

Something is not right, a nineteen year old, who has just lost his elder brother cannot cause this. The whole city of Boston, all the suburbs have been totally locked down.

The president is being briefed in a meeting which has chiefs of CIA, FBI, NSA and Department of Homeland Security plus the attorney general. There are over 9000 heavily armed and armored Rambos, choppers, K-9s, armored vehicles in the area.

Add to that all the media spin...

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 19 Apr 2013 19:36

The entire campus of UMass-Dartmouth, where at-large suspect Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev was enrolled, has been closed

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must be a search going on for explosives and such...

member_23367 · Post by **member_23367** » 19 Apr 2013 19:37

Now they are looking for a runaway vehicle.....

CBS News ‏@CBSNews 13m
JUST IN: Bob Orr reports CT State Police put out a bulletin that the suspect may be in a vehicle, a gray Honda CRV, Mass. plates: 316ES9

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 19 Apr 2013 19:38

Rajiv, its probably a deliberate show of force to send a message to other wannabes that "khan will come down hard on ya if you step out of line" ..kind of deterrence by show as in sailing CVNs off hostile coasts

map of manhunt - densely populated area, 1000s of buildings and commercial places to search

Garooda · Post by **Garooda** » 19 Apr 2013 19:38

If anyone interested in listening to the local scanner.
Boston PD has requested not to re-post or tweet the locations being investigated.

Boston_Police_Fire_EMS_Scanner

Someone's Cam Based Scanner

Live_Police_Fire_EMS_Aircraft_Radio

Scanner_Codes

Dzhokhar_Tweets

Klaus · Post by **Klaus** » 19 Apr 2013 19:39

Could there be a chemical weapons/biological agent threat presence with a potential for wide area dispersal?

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 19 Apr 2013 19:41

my son has established a small "firebase" on the sofa for watching TV news, behind pillows and clutching his toy guns.

khan is so inspiring

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 19 Apr 2013 19:42

Klaus wrote:Could there be a chemical weapons/biological agent threat presence with a potential for wide area dispersal?

or maybe a heavy quantity of explosives and automatic weapons. 5 mins of faithfool work could slay 100 people.

Garooda · Post by **Garooda** » 19 Apr 2013 19:46

Vehicle_In_Search_Recovered

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 19 Apr 2013 19:47

Hopefully he hasn't taken a family hostage in a house already. All the attention would really be a rallying cry for faithfuls across the US to engage in the same nonsense.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 19 Apr 2013 19:47

BREAKING NEWS: A bullet-riddled SUV was taken from a home in the Watertown section of Boston, as police tightened the perimeter where the remaining Boston Marathon bombing suspect could be hiding.
Earlier, multiple explosions echoed from inside a house, and the situation was fluid following a chaotic night of mayhem that included the murder of a Massachusetts Institute of Technology police officer and a shootout with police, authorities said early Friday.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/19/gu ... z2Qv7KUlbu