Blast in Bangalore

rajanb · Post by **rajanb** » 22 Apr 2013 21:05

shiv wrote:
asgkhan wrote: My deep sense of history tells me that they are either buddhists/jains/rastafarians.
And your deep sense of secularism makes you temporarily forget the names of major world religions.

and I think it was the witches preparing for the solstice at stonehenge.

But jokes apart, the sad part is that Boston is more important to our DDM's mental make-up than Bangalore. Being related to a chap from the DDM's, I can tell you, it is a sad world in their community. The sensible ones are a rarity.

pentaiah · Post by **pentaiah** » 22 Apr 2013 21:53

BRAWman is used to be a sleeping duty

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 22 Apr 2013 22:30

How many of you honestly think that our dilli babus know that a blast has occurred in Bangalore? If they know (meaning well informed), how many think they have the capability to remember about such events. Even if they can, be arranged with technology gadgets to remind them to include in their memory and schedule, how many think they have the capability to take action?

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 22 Apr 2013 23:22

Bangalore blast: TN police grill 2 from Kerala

A special investigation team of the Tamil Nadu police on Sunday picked up two persons from Kottayam in Kerala, in connection with last Wednesday’s bomb blast near the BJP office in Bangalore. Police sources said the suspects were brought to Chennai and were being interrogated to ascertain if they have any terror links.

The investigation regarding the ownership of the bike which was used in the blast and its subsequent link to Tamil Nadu led to the detention of the duo.

Police sources said the suspects were being interrogated at an undisclosed location. The two were allegedly involved in preparing fake documents and number plates for bikes that were subsequently sold.

Speculation was rife that two more persons had been detained, though officials refused to confirm it.

Earlier, the police had identified the original owner of the bike through its chassis and engine number as Prakash of Perungalathur and questioned him along with two mechanics, Murugan and Anwar Basha, who were picked up from Vellore. Further investigations were conducted in Namakkal and Kancheepuram.

Their probe led them to Kerala after they identified a mobile number to which several calls were made before the explosion, police sources claimed.

The Karnataka police had recently visited a software engineer’s house in Nanganallur after they traced his address through the registration number from the bike used in the blast.

More ...http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 670708.cms

pentaiah · Post by **pentaiah** » 23 Apr 2013 00:28

Police sources said the suspects were being interrogated at an undisclosed location. The two were allegedly involved in preparing fake documents and number plates for bikes that were subsequently sold.

"undisclosed location" means Jaya nagar police station

"involved in preparing fake documents " how did the police come to know?
Because all the clerks at RTO were clearly agitated that documents were made up as none of them were paid or received any bribes for document preparation.
That is no no situation as monthly reciepts to the minister would fall short of quota!

At this time the investigation is gathering momentum said an official. The RTO minister vowed that this kind of situation will not be allowed in future as he put his foot down.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 23 Apr 2013 01:45

^^^ Please read the report again. The duo was arrested in Kottayam, Kerala and taken to Chennai!!!

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 23 Apr 2013 02:06

Why exactly is the TN police involved in this at all? Was the special investigative team requested from Chennai by the KT govt?

nachiket · Post by **nachiket** » 23 Apr 2013 02:07

^^And what happened to the much vaunted NIA? Did they lose interest once they figured out they couldn't connect this one to "Hindoo terror"?

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 23 Apr 2013 02:17

Pentaiah, that comment was uncalled for.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 23 Apr 2013 02:36

Rudradev wrote:Why exactly is the TN police involved in this at all? Was the special investigative team requested from Chennai by the KT govt?

TN police is involved due to the motorcycle being originally registered in TN. So they are pulling at the bike ownership thread.

pentaiah · Post by **pentaiah** » 23 Apr 2013 03:48

[ot]
Dear Paul ji

My experience with RTO is where ever they are, they are absolutely corrupt

Two years ago we hired a air conditioned van seating capacity of 15 for Chardham yatra
Starting in Nai delli at every district check post we had to bribe from Ghaziabad to all the Dhams
Be it UK Uttar Khand, UP, any place

Four years ago a similar tour of our family started in Tirupathi to tour entire Tamil Nadu and parts of Kerala, the experience was no different except the language ( which was no barrier as we talked mostly about money)

I bought a Maruti 800 as I could not stand the arrogance of auto wallahs even though my stay was for month and half, and lo and behold I could not register unless I went through the designated broker
Once my permanent address was noticed as c/o khan land

Now I also had a relative who joined IA as SSC during 1962 war emergency recruitment (into EME as he had Diploma in Automobile engineering)
Came out in 1969 after 7 years and then became brake inspector, with in a year he had minted enough money to live like carorepathi [/ot]
Even the Abu Salem gangster and his beautiful Bollywood courtesan had multiple bogus passports issued from Hyderabad.
Lets be realistic in our tastes is all I ask

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 23 Apr 2013 03:56

The Bangalore blast should not be viewed in isolation. Within the last three to four weeks, there have been a series of attacks on BJP, Hindu Munnani (Hindu Front) leaders in various parts of Tamilnadu such as Coimbatore, Tirunelveli and Dindugal. There seems to be a campaign going on and it seems to e organized by TN-based groups.

pentaiah · Post by **pentaiah** » 23 Apr 2013 04:01

Perhaps thats the reason for MMS mauna vratham he knows who is doing NIA must be giving feed no?

negi · Post by **negi** » 23 Apr 2013 04:20

BRaman writes nice stuff when he covers actual action for instance his blog entries on recent blasts on Boston and Bangalore have good snr; his problem is he drifts away from world of facts and numbers when it comes to defending the Gandhi pariwar and the usual old guard some of his blog entries on Rahul Gandhi and Sonia Gandhi are as nonsensical and outright rubbish as Rahul babas speech in CII conclave.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 23 Apr 2013 04:53

SSridhar, you mean TNMMK?

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 23 Apr 2013 06:25

TN BJP state executive member M.R.Gandhi was hacked by a four member gang in Nagerkoil.
200 Chrisitians reconverted to Hinduism in Tirenevelli.
Popular Front of India and Social Democratic Party of India (both considered Islmaic outfits) attacked Hindu Makkal Party member house.
Other Islamic outfits have attacked other Hindu outfits in Coimbatore, Erode, Nilgiris and Tirupur region.
Hindu Munnani called for a bandh protesting these attacks.
Love Jihad is increasing in Coimbatore area.

Hindu Munnani and other outfits have increasingly protested attack on Hinduism by Islamic and Christian outfits. Take a look in nukkad the poster wars. Akila Bharatiya Hindu Mahasabha (TN CHapter) countered the evangelical poster.

Both MuKa and JJ have courted all these parties for their benefit. When the Dravidian identity is dissolved in TN, there will be a 3-way tussle just like in neighboring Kerala.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 23 Apr 2013 06:35

Foriegn ideology will be thrown out of India.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 23 Apr 2013 07:20

SaiK wrote:SSridhar, you mean TNMMK?

It is much deeper than just TMMK. Maudany and the late Palani Baba have spawned an elaborate network in Coimbatore, Tirunelveli, Madurai and Dindugal. In these places, especially in and around Coimbatore, there are certain no-go areas even for the Police. During a visit last year to madurai, LK Advani was targetted. There is a large Saurashtra community in Madurai which organized a summit and invited Modi last year but it had to be cancelled because of threats. Chennai's Mount Road between Gemini and Spencers was effectively hijacked for three full days last year by the TMMK and others. Just two weeks back, the Perambalur Muslims were demanding that the Hindus should not take out traditional processions through some areas because these areas have now become Muslim-majority. It was reported here too.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 23 Apr 2013 07:52

3 terrorists, incl two named rasheed and moinuddin were arrested in chennai today by joint KA-TN police team.

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 23 Apr 2013 09:48

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-new ... 48866.aspx

Further details are awaited.

no previously unknown details given.

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 23 Apr 2013 09:56

request all to remove references to T word adjacent to Jain word. It hurts bad even if said jokingly.

kish · Post by **kish** » 23 Apr 2013 18:11

Bangalore Blast Case: Three Arrested From Tamil Nadu

Chennai Police have arrested three persons in connection with last week's blast near the BJP office in Bangalore that left 16 persons injured. According to top police sources, Karnataka Police were assisted by their Tamil Nadu counterparts in a late night operation, in which two persons -- Peer Mohideen and Basheer hailing from Tirunelveli were arrested from a lodge here.

The third person was arrested from Madurai, they said, adding the trio facilitated the blast while the main culprits were still at large.
Four men were recently detained in Kerala for their alleged involvement in the case.
The arrested are being taken to Bangalore for further investigation, sources said.
The Karnataka government had announced a reward of Rs five lakh to those who provide information on the culprits responsible for the April 17 blast.

A Madurai report identified the third person as Kichan Bukari, an activist of banned Al-Umma.
36-year old Bukari was picked up at the central bus stand here when he was on his way to Tirunelveli from Chennai.
He was also a convict in the case relating to the 1998 serial bomb blasts in Coimbatore that claimed 58 lives and left more than 200 injured during the visit of senior BJP leader L K Advani to the city to address an election rally.

Bukari, hailing from Melapalayam in Tirunelveli District, had undergone 10 years jail term in the blast case, a report from Coimbatore said. He was accused No.133 in the case in which several Al-Umma activists were convicted.
Besides he was also sentenced to life in three murder cases against him but released by Supreme Court.

Meanwhile, police seized 32 abandoned vehicles in the city last night during a vehicle check.
Thirteen cars, 15 motorcycles and four rickshaws were seized, a police release here said.
The check comes against the backdrop of a stolen motorcycle being used for the Bangalore blast.
Based on the license plates, rightful owners of such vehicles were identified and 15 vehicles have been handed over to them, it said.

Steps have been taken to identify the owners of the remaining vehicles which have been handed over to local police stations, it said.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 24 Apr 2013 08:35

The fourth guy who has been arrested in Madurai, on his way to Tirunelveli, is a terrorist who tried to bomb LK Advani, the then Home Minister at Coimbatore in 1997. I am now inclined to believe that the recent spate of attacks on BJP & other Hindu leaders in TN and the Bengaluru attack are inter-linked. The TN Police must investigate from this angle and expose the groups. TN has begun to export terrorism.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 24 Apr 2013 08:39

SS, There were only three guys so far. The Madurai guy was Kichan Bukari who was let go after being sentenced to life for triple murder. See above report.
BTW Chindu reports a haebus corpus was filed by is wife to produce him.

sum · Post by **sum** » 24 Apr 2013 08:43

SSridhar wrote:The fourth guy who has been arrested in Madurai, on his way to Tirunelveli, is a terrorist who tried to bomb LK Advani, the then Home Minister at Coimbatore in 1997. I am now inclined to believe that the recent spate of attacks on BJP & other Hindu leaders in TN and the Bengaluru attack are inter-linked. The TN Police must investigate from this angle and expose the groups. TN has begun to export terrorism.

Interesting that only the non-UPA states coordinated and cracked this so soon.

Wonder how the results would have been if DMK was in power?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 24 Apr 2013 08:46

Old School Probe Cracks Bengaluru Case - The Telegraph

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 24 Apr 2013 08:56

ramana wrote:SS, There were only three guys so far. The Madurai guy was Kichan Bukari who was let go after beingg sentenced for triple murder.

ramana, there are indeed 4 guys. All of them are Al Umma activists owing allegiance to Maudani. Two were arrested from North Chennai and two more arrested in Madurai. Buhari was one of them arrested in Madurai. Several reports are claiming this including The Telegraph posted above.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 24 Apr 2013 11:31

SO the convicts released early with much fanfare by UPA with celeberations in the Hindu and NDTV have conducted anther bomb blats. Why is this aspect not discussed.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 24 Apr 2013 13:02

Aditya_V, I am still unsure if this Buhari guy was one of those released by Muthuvel Karunanidhi as general amnesty on CN Annadurai's birthday or not.

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 24 Apr 2013 17:31

Good work by Q branch on the arrests.
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Cross state problems - Interesting there is an exodus.

Workers' mass exodus from Coimbatore

Captain News : Captain News Bulletin

Following the arrest of a suspected Maoist from Coimbatore two days ago, several immigrant North Indian workers have started to leave the state. Many employers are terminating their job contracts in the fear that they might be involved in crime. Shyam Charan Tudu was picked up by the police on Saturday for his alleged involvement in the 2010 Silda camp attack that killed 24 paramilitary personnel.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 24 Apr 2013 17:47

Would like to share the update on the busting of a Popular Front of India (PFI @ NDF) was busted in Kannur, Northern Kerala. A dummy of a human being for target practise, large number of SIM cards, weapons and identity cards used in Iran were found. The large house was supposed to be the HQ of a charity trust. When the police came knocking, folks standing guard at the door fled. The first party locked up the house from outside and waited for more police to come.
Mathrubhumi (English) report - 1
Mathrubhumi (English) report - 2

May not be too surprised that the KP got the tips of this terror training centre from their pals in KSP and TP

.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 24 Apr 2013 20:24

SSridhar wrote:Aditya_V, I am still unsure if this Buhari guy was one of those released by Muthuvel Karunanidhi as general amnesty on CN Annadurai's birthday or not.

In the above post by kish

Bukari, hailing from Melapalayam in Tirunelveli District, had undergone 10 years jail term in the blast case, a report from Coimbatore said. He was accused No.133 in the case in which several Al-Umma activists were convicted. Besides he was also sentenced to life in three murder cases against him but released by Supreme Court.

Also from the numerous reports all four are Al _Umma members.

they are :Mohd Saleen, Basheer, Kichan Bukhari, Mohideen.

Motive is Madany being jailed in Karnataka.
Nothing to do with Ind Mujahdeen as the pomposu anonymouse chaprasi in Deli ponitifcated to Nanjappa.
Nor the mythical 'Scarlet Pimpernel' Yasin Bhatkal.

If YB is found it will be some INC leader's house.

Something wrong with SC judges they periodically release criminals who go on to do more crimes. A life sentence for three murders is commutated to 10 years!

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 24 Apr 2013 20:29

So if you let the local police do their work you don't need NIA nor the NCTC which is way for INC to perpetuate political myths.

If the NIA hasn't shown any results so far in any case it needs to be reorganized.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 25 Apr 2013 03:23

So the good thing is there is
- local State police coordination just as Sardar Patel had envisioned
- there is a data base of IEDs used in atleast TN

The bad news is there is widespread awareness of bomb making skills all over India among the Muslim community
- It is based on Ammonium Nitrate technology and uses a variety of IEDs with nails, without nails, tiffin boxes etc...
- Earlier Khalistan and the Mumbai 93 blasts used imported Paki RDX. Now it sall local materials for radical Islamists in India.
- Some MHA officals are still in spin mode and dreaming up Ind Muj and other groups.

So why were the Hyderabad blasts unsolvable yet?

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 25 Apr 2013 08:22

i personally knew a cbi afsar who i met in chennai some eons ago.. he must have retired now.. not sure the same protocol exists now.. he said, there are good connections between various investigative cells, bodies, and local TN cops. unfortunately, many a times, politicians are filters and blockers.

disha · Post by **disha** » 25 Apr 2013 08:47

If the NIA hasn't shown any results so far in any case it needs to be ~~reorganized~~ disbanded. Complete waste of time, just integrate the police information across the country and create a super cell of all state police cells.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 25 Apr 2013 08:56

per wiki:

The ground staff of the agency in the national capital could be drawn from existing central staff and security organisations while in the states, permanent deputation from the state police could be taken

so, how do we know it may not be associated?

Karan Dixit · Post by **Karan Dixit** » 25 Apr 2013 08:56

Kudos to Karnataka and Tamilnadu police for cracking the case. That was good police work.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 25 Apr 2013 09:08

SaiK wrote: he said, there are good connections between various investigative cells, bodies, and local TN cops. unfortunately, many a times, politicians are filters and blockers.

One way this cohesion is brought in is using the route of deputation/i]. Very many agencies like IB, Special Branch CID, and perhaps NIA as well takes lots of state police cadre on a deputation basis. So all state police units would have their people in the central agencies as well. And because these folks all work together at a central level, they would naturally have a connect with each other. When these folks go back the "old boy network" may still remain .

BTW, PFI related case at Kannur may be handed over to NIA. Then I guess it is time to close down the case .

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 25 Apr 2013 09:17

see, it could be that BJP requests to center may be ignored.. may be in this case, kangrez trying to be pally with amma, and show the neighbor BJP, how it can do under kangez regime., so kannur may not get a nod... those guys can make more bombs and blow it up, as long as it does not fall on k-angrez.. but, i may be politicizing this.. but completely plausible in indic scene.