Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

[chaanakya]

Strike by even a midget nuke will invite massive response, India warns Pak

Indrani Bagchi, TNN | Apr 30, 2013, 06.29 AM IST
NEW DELHI: India will retaliate massively even if Pakistan uses tactical nuclear weapons against it. With Pakistan developing "tactical" nuclear warheads, that is, miniaturizing its weapons to be carried on short-range missiles, India will protect its security interests by retaliating to a "smaller" tactical attack in exactly the same manner as it would respond to a "big" strategic attack.

Articulating Indian nuclear policy in this regard for the first time, Shyam Saran, convener of the National Security Advisory Board, said, "India will not be the first to use nuclear weapons, but if it is attacked with such weapons, it would engage in nuclear retaliation which will be massive and designed to inflict unacceptable damage on its adversary. The label on a nuclear weapon used for attacking India, strategic or tactical, is irrelevant from the Indian perspective." This is significant, because Saran was placing on record India's official nuclear posture with the full concurrence of the highest levels of nuclear policymakers in New Delhi.

Giving a speech on India's nuclear deterrent recently, Saran placed India's nuclear posture in perspective in the context of recent developments, notably the "jihadist edge" that Pakistan's nuclear weapons capability have acquired.

Saran argued that as a result of its tactical weapons, Pakistan believes it has brought down the threshold of nuclear use. "Pakistani motivation is to dissuade India from contemplating conventional punitive retaliation to sub-conventional but highly destructive and disruptive cross-border terrorist strikes such as the horrific 26/11 attack on Mumbai. What Pakistan is signalling to India and to the world is that India should not contemplate retaliation even if there is another Mumbai because Pakistan has lowered the threshold of nuclear use to the theatre level. This is nothing short of nuclear blackmail, no different from the irresponsible behaviour one witnesses in North Korea," he said.

One of the main reasons for Pakistan miniaturizing its nukes is actually to keep its weapons from being confiscated or neutralized by the US, a fear that has grown in the Pakistani establishment in the wake of the operation against Osama bin Laden. "Pakistan has, nevertheless, projected its nuclear deterrent as solely targeted at India and its strategic doctrine mimics the binary nuclear equation between the US and the Soviet Union which prevailed during the Cold War," Saran said.

However, warning Pakistan, he added, "A limited nuclear war is a contradiction in terms. Any nuclear exchange, once initiated, would swiftly and inexorably escalate to the strategic level. Pakistan would be prudent not to assume otherwise as it sometimes appears to do, most recently by developing and perhaps deploying theatre nuclear weapons."

There have been significant shifts in Pakistan's nuclear posture recently. First is the movement from uranium to a newer generation of plutonium weapons, which has enabled Pakistan to increase the number of weapons, outstripping India in weapons and fissile material production. Although they are still to be verified, Pakistan has claimed it has miniaturized nuclear weapons to be used on cruise missiles and other short-range missiles. The newer generation of Pakistan's weapons are also solid-fuelled rather than liquid, making them easier to transport and launch.

[arun]

Strike by even a midget nuke will invite massive response, India warns Pak ......... {Snipped}

The full text of the speech of the Chairman of our National Security Advisory Board, Shyam Saran, outlining India’s nuclear weapon doctrine is available at the below web link. Seems there is a typo on the date of the speech as the weblink advises that the speech was delivered by our Chairman of the NSAB on August 24th 2013, which is still a few months in the future:

Is India’s Nuclear Deterrent Credible?

[Rajdeep]

Seems there is a typo on the date of the speech as the weblink advises that the speech was delivered by our Chairman of the NSAB on August 24th 2013, which is still a few months in the future:

Is India’s Nuclear Deterrent Credible?

Maybe he knows something is going to happen after the May elections and the uniform jihadists will push such a device to the un-uniformed jihadists who are planning for a late July-August misadventure.

I just drank the jahil cool aid

[SSridhar]

Before retaliating massively for a TNW attack, let us retaliate for the years of terrorism against us, beheading of our soldiers etc. Then we will take these words at their face value. Today, we suffer a huge credibility gap, even internally.

[James B]

Pakistan court bans Musharraf from contesting polls for life

In a severe jolt to former Pakistan military ruler Pervez Musharraf's plans to stage a political comeback, a court on Tuesday banned him from contesting elections for the rest of his life for abrogating constitution twice and detaining judges during the emergency in 2007.

A four-judge bench of the Peshawar high court headed by chief justice Dost Muhammad Khan imposed the ban while dismissing Musharraf's appeal challenging the rejection of his nomination papers for May 11 general election.

The lifetime ban was imposed because Musharraf had abrogated the Constitution twice and detained judges during the 2007 emergency, the bench said.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 802655.cms

[RajeshA]

Pakistan court bans Musharraf from contesting polls for life

I think they should now move on to declaring him a non-Muslim, a traitor to Islam, and then annulling his marriage!

[abhijitm]

[url=xxxhttp://dawn.com/2013/04/28/selective-targeting-of-political-parties-is-taliban-shuras-decision-ttp-spokesman/]selective targeting of the political parties is Taliban Shura's decision[/url]

PESHAWAR: Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) spokesperson Eshsanullah Ehsan while talking to Dawn.com from an undisclosed location said on Sunday that selective targeting of the political parties and candidates was the decision and prerogative of the Taliban Shura.

Replying to a query about sparing the Pakistan Tehrik-i-Insaf (PTI) , Jamiat-i-Ulema Islam- Fazal (JUI-F) , Jamaat-i-Islami (JI) and Pakistan Muslim league – Nawaz (PML-N) who were also contesting elections within the same secular system, to which Taliban are opposed to, he said:

“Taliban shura had decided to target those secular political parties which were part of the previous coalition government and involved in the operation in Swat, Fata and other areas of Khyber Pakhtunkhwah,”adding that “the organisation followed the instructions of the Taliban shura and that it was the shura that decided which political parties to target, where and when.”

To another query that the Taliban were making ground and paving way for some parties to win the elections and denying space to others, he said: “neither we are against nor in favour of the PTI, PML- N, JI and JUI-F,” adding that “We are against the secular and democratic system which is against the ideology of Islam but we are not expecting any good from the other parties either, who are the supporters of the same system, but why they are not targeted is our own prerogative to decide.”

About attacks on independent candidates , he claimed that all secular minds supporting and talking part in the elections would also be targeted.

[abhijitm]

^^
Altaf bhai responds

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http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2013\04\30\story_30-4-2013_pg1_2

KARACHI: Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) chief Altaf Hussain on Monday urged the “enlightened, progressive and liberal forces” which terrorist groups are these? to struggle jointly to save the countryme. Altaf said that “history today has placed burden upon us to save Pakistan that we need to discharge our responsibilities or else our next generation would never forgive us for our failings”. He said this during his telephonic conversation with former federal interior minister Rahman Malik on Monday, said a statement issued by MQM. During a detailed interaction, national and international situation was also discussed and both leaders vowed to confront the national and international conspiracies against the “enlightened and liberal forces” in Pakistan jointly. Altaf stated that the democratic, progressive, moderate and enlightened parties are being kept out of the election process by the national and international establishment under a sustained policy

[abhijitm]

Blasts in pakistan are so common these days that even a loud fart in crowded place will cause couple of abduls to die of heart attack instantly. Talibunnies should think of this alternate technique. Let the suicide farters go berserk.

[abhijitm]

you just have to read this.

Why evil India is selling substandard "gas" when there is ample superior "gas" in pakistan?

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http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2013\04\30\story_30-4-2013_pg13_5

LHC seeks reply over gas import from India

LAHORE: The Lahore High Court on Monday sought reply from the environmental protection department by May 3 on a petition challenging import of alleged substandard carbon dioxide from India.

The judge issued a notice on the petition moved on behalf of m/s Colony Sugar Mills. Petitioner’s counsel Shahid Ikram Siddique submitted that the petitioner is producing the gas and has one of the most advanced and top of the line production facility in the country. He submitted that ministry of commerce allowed m/s Pak Gases (Pvt) nice name! to import the carbon dioxide from India last year which was illegal and unconstitutional and of course blasphemous.

He submitted that the gas was included in the negative list for import from India the ministry’s permission was against the Import Policy Order 2013. He submitted that the gas imported from India through Wagha did not meet the requirements of Pakistan Standard & Quality Control Authority, since there was no system to check its standard before entering Pakistan. the fact is there is no system to check the standard in pakistan

He submitted that gas is not fit for human use as its storage and transportation is required to be carried through ISO tankers whereas neither of these requisite vessels of transportation are available at Wagha border. He said the gas being imported from India is substandard and contaminated, which is being supplied to the beverage industry for manufacturing carbonated soft drinks. He requested to declare the permission to import carbon dioxide from India as illegal despite restraining the federal government from any such move in the future.

[anupmisra]

You just can't trust these evil Yindoos. First they steal all the electricity from the river waters before releasing the flows into our pure land. Then, because they are in the east where the sun rises first, they grab all the solar power before the sun gets a chance to rise in pa'astan. Now its all about gas. Even their carbon-di-oxide is sub standard because they steal half the oxygen from it before sending it to pa'astan as carbon monoxide in non-IS"O" trucks.

Evil brahmins and banias with their diabolical plans to ruin the fair name of pa'astan. Pox on you.

[James B]

Bodies of kidnapped FC officials recovered in N Waziristan

The bodies of three Frontier Corps (FC) officials, kidnapped by unidentified militants, were found in the Datta Khel tehsil of North Waziristan Agency on Monday.

An official of the security forces said that the militants dumped the bullet-riddled bodies of the Frontier Corps personnel by a roadside in the Adam Kot area of the tehsil.

tribune.com.pk/story/542437/bodies-of-kidnapped-fc-officials-recovered-in-n-waziristan/

[arun]

X Posted from the “India-US Strategic News and Discussion” thread.

A reminder from C Christine Fair by way of some pretty convoluted arguments as to why the notion that India and the US are somehow “Natural Allies” needs to be treated with scepticism.

Her solution to the problem of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s notion that the “only assets it believes works for it: jihad under a the security of its ever-expanding nuclear umbrella” is to reward them with a civilian nuclear deal which she admits that she strongly opposed when it came to US’s deal with India.

In case the Pakistani refuse to accept this generous nuclear reward for “rolling back its nuclearized jihad” then C. Christine Fair recommends that the US reward the Islamic Republic of Pakistan by opposing India’s territorial claims over Pakistan Occupied Jammu & Kashmir by declaring “support to render the Line of Control cutting through those portions of Kashmir administered by Pakistan and India as the international border”:

Can This Alliance Be Saved? Salvaging the U.S.-Pakistan Relationship

[member_26255]

Tender for running Pakistan

http://dawn.com/2013/04/29/tender-for-running-pakistan/

Tender No. GOP 2013/193CTR/PTL/TEN/420

Tender Notice for Running the Country
The Government of Pakistan requires the service of an International Organisation to run the country for a period of twenty-five years.

Country Background:
It is generally believed that Pakistan was created for the Muslims of India. However, there is still debate in the country regarding the ideology of Pakistan. Some say that Pakistan came into being so unexpectedly that no one had the time to define its ideology. The state of Pakistan can be categorised as one of the following (or any combination thereof):

Islamic
Secular
Democratic
Autocratic
Militaristic
Autistic
Since the creation of Pakistan, following governments have been in place:

1947 – 1948 Mohammed Ali Jinnah, founder of Pakistan was the first head of the state. Unfortunately, he passed away in 1948.

1948 – 1958 During this period 10 governments came and went. During this time a prime minister was assassinated and another exiled.

1958 – 1968 First Military coup and Martial law. The new Chief Martial Law Administrator and later President and Field Marshal, Mohammed Ayub Khan, ruled for ten years. People got sick and tired of dictatorship and went out in the streets calling the gentleman-soldier a dog. This broke his heart and he resigned. He was a decent sort of a chap who enriched only his own family and in return built many dams and a new city. He also authored a book titled “Friends and Masters”. Following the poor performance of the subsequent governments, he is today remembered as a Saint.

1971 The job of running the country became easier as the enslaved half of the country was freed through the goodwill and humanitarianism of the Pakistan military. The freed slaves made their own country called Bangladesh. The people of Bangladesh proved to be very ungrateful and now refuse to play cricket with Pakistan.

1972 – 1977 A young Oxford educated feudal Mr. Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto became the Chief Martial Law Administrator and then the Prime Minister. His main strength was his fiery speeches in good English and bad Urdu. He was such a good Muslim that he accepted all the key demands of the clerics like declaring the Ahmedis non-Muslims and banning alcohol. Being a man of conscience he started drinking heavily to lessen the pain of taking such horrid decisions. He also wisely purged all the left wing troublemakers in his party and replaced them with solid, reliable and wise men from the feudal class.

1977 – 1987 Mr. Bhutto’s top general Zia-ul-Haq did not see eye to eye with Mr. Bhutto. One part of the reason was that he was squint eyed and the second that he did not think that Mr. Bhutto was Islamic enough. So he did “Istikhara” (requesting guidance from God) and after receiving permission deposed the Prime Minister in a coup.
He announced that elections would take place in 90 days. However, the people were so pleased with the General that they beseeched him to stay. Being a true democrat the General could not turn down the request of the masses and decided to stay on to serve them. Just to make sure that he could serve the people with his full attention he declared that the pesky Mr. Bhutto had hanged himself in a fierce police encounter. Being a very hospitable man, he invited all the Muslim Afghan brethren to live in Pakistan. He also helped them fight the infidels from Russia. He had a rich uncle named Sam who provided the required finances.

This pious man would be still in power if it were not for his love of mangoes. He filled up his plane with so many crates of mangoes that it crashed due to the excessive weight. Many in Pakistan were deeply saddened by the loss of such good mangoes.

1988 – 2013 The period from 1947 to 1988 was a game of musical chairs and no one remembers who came and who went and where and why. It is not clear who is running the affairs of Pakistan; in an opinion poll majority felt that it was God.

Scope of Work of the Bidder:

The bidder will be solely responsible for running the Government of Pakistan. This will include (but not limited to):

1. Disbanding the band of thieves that has been running the country for the past 65 years and deporting them to their home countries like the USA, Saudi Arabia, Dubai, Great Britain, and Canada.
2. Ensuring that containers are used for the sole purpose of transporting goods.
3. Banning spitting of phlegm, tobacco, niswar, and paan peek in public places and particularly on stairwells.
4. Removing all garbage strewn around the country and dumping it outside.
5. Arresting all the religious extremists and putting them in a rehabilitation centre run by Doctor Maulana Taqreerul Qadri.
6. Removing all the political talk show anchors and using them as anchors for the boats in the oily waters of Kaemari.
7. Changing the foreign policy from misaligned to non-aligned.
8. Eliminating the police force by making it mandatory for them to have a 32 inch waist.
9. Making Hijab mandatory for men and optional for women.

Bidder Qualification:
• Bidders from countries deemed to be more corrupt than Pakistan in the Transparency International Rankings will be subject to immediate disqualification.
• Bidders from previous colonising countries like Great Britain, The Netherlands, Belgium, Spain and France will be given preference.
• Bidders from the USA are not eligible to bid as they are already running the Government of Pakistan.
• Bidders from Nigeria need not apply.
• The language of the bids can be any as long as it is English.
• Influencing the bid evaluation process by means of bribery is strictly prohibited unless it is at least $50 million and made through proper channels.

Submission of Tender:
• Tenders will be submitted in quadruplicate in hard copy by courier.
• As per normal procurement rules 10 per cent of the bid price will be deposited as “goodwill”
• Tenders will be submitted to the following address:
The Section Officer
Services and General Administration Division
Pakistan Secretariat
Islamabad

Closing date for the Tenders is 14 August 2013.

Important: If the country disintegrates before the bid closing date, this tender will be considered null and void.

[ramana]

Looks like Paki terrorists in G'Bay are now on massive hunger strike.

Looks like they are using Indian tactics.

[member_22872]

B'desh could win that bid, to do a massive a$$ whopping and then TSP will take the help of India to drive off B'desh and get independence in the form of 5 different countries. Talk of cutting ones nose to spite the face.

[partha]

http://tribune.com.pk/story/542879/figh ... democracy/

Fighting words: Army chief fires a salvo for democracy

Pakis rejoicing that army has finally shown support for democracy and that there will no longer be coups, should read again! A nice little backdoor for the army.

“If we succeed in rising above all ethnic, linguistic and sectarian biases to vote solely on the basis of honesty, sincerity, merit and competence, there would be no reason to fear dictatorship or to grudge the inadequacies of our present democratic system,” he emphasised.

So there! there will always be dishonest & incompetent people in politics which means there will always be coups. Even if honest, competent people get elected, some future army chief will change the definitions of honesty and competency and invade Isloo. AoA!

[KLNMurthy]

X Posted from the “India-US Strategic News and Discussion” thread.

A reminder from C Christine Fair by way of some pretty convoluted arguments as to why the notion that India and the US are somehow “Natural Allies” needs to be treated with scepticism.

Her solution to the problem of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s notion that the “only assets it believes works for it: jihad under a the security of its ever-expanding nuclear umbrella” is to reward them with a civilian nuclear deal which she admits that she strongly opposed when it came to US’s deal with India.

In case the Pakistani refuse to accept this generous nuclear reward for “rolling back its nuclearized jihad” then C. Christine Fair recommends that the US reward the Islamic Republic of Pakistan by opposing India’s territorial claims over Pakistan Occupied Jammu & Kashmir by declaring “support to render the Line of Control cutting through those portions of Kashmir administered by Pakistan and India as the international border”:

Can This Alliance Be Saved? Salvaging the U.S.-Pakistan Relationship

Silly woman trying to stay relevant. No American, it seems, actually knows her Pakis. Anyway, nothing to get our chaddis in a twist over--US nuke deal to TSP makes no difference to the threat faced by India, and TSP will never buy LOC as international border.

[KLNMurthy]

Pakistan court bans Musharraf from contesting polls for life

I think they should now move on to declaring him a non-Muslim, a traitor to Islam, and then annulling his marriage!

Funny thing is that no court in TSP had actually ruled that Musharaf had indeed committed a crime in imposing the Emergency, it remains an accusation. So, the Peshawar High Court's basis for "lifetime ban" of Musharaf was based on, something pulled out of, well, the court's Musharaf.

India's supreme court has been home to some prize idiots but Thank Allah for TSP's court system which makes ours look brilliantly professional. Pakistan Paindabad!

[Anindya]

read On: Saudi official: Kingdom 'warned the United States IN WRITING about Boston Bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2012 and rejected his application for an entry visa to visit Mecca in 2011'

Saudis developed intelligence separately from Russia, which also warned the U.S. about the accused Boston bomber
A letter to the Department of Homeland Security allegedly named Tsarnaev and three Pakistanis as potential jihadis worthy of U.S. investigation

[kish]

Pakis are working hard to make their economy bigger.

Bank robbery: Year’s biggest heist

A Karachi bank branch was robbed of over five crore rupees on Tuesday, the biggest robbery this year so far.

About Rs53.8 million were taken away by armed men from a branch of the United Bank Limited (UBL) in the city’s Gulshan-e-Iqbal neighbourhood on Tuesday evening.

[abhijitm]

>> robbed of over five crore rupees

since when pakis started using hindu numeral system?

[chaanakya]

>> robbed of over five crore rupees

since when pakis started using hindu numeral system?

Since their birth.

[anupmisra]

Denied!

Davis Cup committee denies Paki appeal

The International Tennis Federation has denied Pakistan's appeal against awarding a Davis Cup tie to New Zealand due to an unplayable grass court in Yangon, Myanmar

The ITF's Davis Cup committee, after meeting in London on Tuesday, says the “Pakistan Tennis Federation did not organize the tie to the required standards.”

[anupmisra]

I didn't make this up. Khasadar foils bid to smuggle heroine in Khyber Agency

Khasadar force have foiled a bid to smuggle sixteen kilograms of heroine from hideouts of pick-up vehicle in Tehseel Jamrood area of Khyber Agency, Geo News reported.

[abhijitm]

^^ must be a -5 figure heroine.

[abhisheka]

Problem in India is that people think that Pakistan is a Nation State.
This misconception exists amongst the Netas, mango indian, everywhere.

The truth is that Pakistan is a land occupied by Mafia like groupings - the Army, The Feudals, the 22 rich families, the Criminals (ably lead by Mr Dawood Ibrahim), the Jihadi / Islamic leaders. There is NO rule or regulation. Hell, even their constitution is changed every 9.5 years by whichever dictator comes into power. Everything is for sale under the table, and over the table with massa etc. But they suddenly acquire ghairat when dealing with India.

Otherwise with their 3.5 friends, they are begger no ones.

When China, US negotiate separately with the various power centers in Pakistan, they tacitly acknowledge that Pakistan is not a nation state. Pakistan as a nation state is a uniquely Indian fantasy.
More than half of Pakistanis became Bangladeshis in 1971. This was the opportune moment to claim that the Pakistan of IWT had ceased to exist and thus the treaty stands nullified.
De-recognizing Pakistan today, even privately, will fix our Pakistan policy. Territorial claims will be ignored by all future Indian governments. Bilateral agreements with Pakistan will be taken far less seriously.
How do we press forward the argument of de-recognizing Pakistan within our own strategic community? Ask them to name an entity within Pakistan which can guarantee adherence to a bilateral agreement for at least 10 years. Region of Pakistan's inability to throw up an incontrovertible power center should be used against it.

[CRamS]

Can This Alliance Be Saved? Salvaging the U.S.-Pakistan Relationship
Silly woman trying to stay relevant. No American, it seems, actually knows her Pakis. Anyway, nothing to get our chaddis in a twist over--US nuke deal to TSP makes no difference to the threat faced by India, and TSP will never buy LOC as international border.

Indeed, but what is striking is that given her handlers in CIA/Pentagon/State dept/Think Tanks/White house etc who feed tit bits to write crap like this, the India TSP equal equal stick is what US uses to calibrate responses from both India & TSP. That policy is alive and kicking. So if not nuke deal, they will come up with something else to keep TSP alive and box India down. I shudder to think what evil mischief US will scheme up should Narendra ModiJi become PM of India after he becomes PM despite all of their efforts to humiliate him, BJP, and Hindus at large; assuming of course he doesn't bend over backwards like VajpayeeJi proclaiming US and India are "natural allies", or Jassu Bhai visiting "my friend Strobe" for fish filleminion, or AdvaniJi paying obeisance to pigLeT Jinnah)

[Agnimitra]

PoK leaders seek India’s help in fight against Pak

WHILE India has been extremely sensitive about being seen to be getting involved in Pakistan’s internal affairs, a number of political groups in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK) have now been openly seeking New Delhi’s help in their fight against what they describe as their persecution by Islamabad.

Their argument is simple. Officially, India continues to consider the whole of Kashmir, including the areas under Pakistan control, as its own territory and therefore it becomes its duty to protect them against a foreign aggressor, which is how they describe Pakistan.

A motley group of these political leaders and intellectuals from areas around Gilgit and Baltistan in PoK, referred to as Northern Areas by Pakistan, assembled in New Delhi to participate in a two-day international seminar on ‘Society, Culture and Politics in the Karakoram Himalayas’ that was dominated by tales of discrimination and persecution of the people in these areas at the hands of Pakistan’s civilian and military establishment.

“I am surprised that India has no concern about what is happening in Gilgit and Baltistan. Pakistan has been openly supporting and encouraging militants in Indian Kashmir and New Delhi doesn’t even want to keep contact with areas that are officially still a part of its own territory,” said Abdul Hamid Khan, chairman of Balawaristan National Front, a political party whose objective is to gain independence from Pakistan. Balawaristan is the historic name for Northern Areas.

Khan, like most other political leaders from the region, lives in exile in Europe. He said the Indian position was even more surprising considering the fact that most political formations in the area were now open to a merger with India.

“Even an independent Balawaristan is in larger interest of India as it would not support terrorism in Jammu and Kashmir,” he said.

Shaukat Kashmiri, leader of the United Kashmir National People’s Party, one of the largest political formations in the region, also spoke about a reunification with India. His party had started out as Jammu and Kashmir National People’s Party in 1985, but changed its name in 1993 to stress the pan-Kashmiri nature of the organisation.

Kashmiri, who has been ‘kidnapped’ twice by the ISI, has been operating out of Switzerland for the past few years.

Though the leaders from PoK complained about the Indian insensitivity to their concerns, it was quite clear that the seminar had the blessings of India’s official establishment.

Prime Minister’s Special Envoy on Climate Change Shyam Saran made the inaugural address at the seminar which was also attended by quite a few former diplomats, Army officials and intellectual community.

[anupmisra]

PoK leaders seek India’s help in fight against Pak

“I am surprised that India has no concern about what is happening in Gilgit and Baltistan. Pakistan has been openly supporting and encouraging militants in Indian Kashmir and New Delhi doesn’t even want to keep contact with areas that are officially still a part of its own territory,” said Abdul Hamid Khan, chairman of Balawaristan National Front, a political party whose objective is to gain independence from Pakistan. Balawaristan is the historic name for Northern Areas.

....

“Even an independent Balawaristan is in larger interest of India as it would not support terrorism in Jammu and Kashmir,” he said.

An independent balawaristan is what India does not want. Gives the wrong message and is contrary to the idea of the entire J&K, of which Balawaristan is part of, being part of India. Doesn't the J&K assembly have a few seats reserved for the pok side of the LOC? Arent most residents of Balawaristan shiites? I think India should encourage Balawaristan to secede with the guarantee of becoming an autonomous region within the Federal Indian Union.

[Sushupti]

On the death of Sarabjit.

[Agnimitra]

Taliban Khan's PTI Media Cell puts out this important declaration to preserve its Imaan:

PTI denies seeking Ahmadis support in polls

[Y I Patel]

^^
Altaf bhai responds

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http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2013\04\30\story_30-4-2013_pg1_2

KARACHI: Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) chief Altaf Hussain on Monday urged the “enlightened, progressive and liberal forces” which terrorist groups are these? to struggle jointly to save the countryme. Altaf said that “history today has placed burden upon us to save Pakistan that we need to discharge our responsibilities or else our next generation would never forgive us for our failings”. He said this during his telephonic conversation with former federal interior minister Rahman Malik on Monday, said a statement issued by MQM. During a detailed interaction, national and international situation was also discussed and both leaders vowed to confront the national and international conspiracies against the “enlightened and liberal forces” in Pakistan jointly. Altaf stated that the democratic, progressive, moderate and enlightened parties are being kept out of the election process by the national and international establishment under a sustained policy

This should be interpreted as an oblique statement in support of Mushy. During his time as president, he was a big friend of MQM. I suspect that besides the Army, the MQM might have had a large role in convining him to return.

More broadly, IMHO this shows the splintering of the Army's power. They can no longer count on getting their man in regardless, and may be hedging their bets by supporting Mushy's return. Otherwise, their inclination would have been to go with the Punjabi parties - Mushy's enemity with Sharif may not extend to the current crop of Punjabi generals.

So the election is shaping up as PPP and MQM one one side, with the Punjabi and Pathan parties on the other. Taliban are mainly targeting parties in the PPP-led coalition. Army will have a say, either way the cookie crumbles. The important distinction is that they can no longer dictate, so they have to pick someone who will have common interests.

[RamaY]

I wonder when Sindh and Baluchistan say enough is enough and go BD way.

[Prem]

^^
Altaf bhai responds

So the election is shaping up as PPP and MQM one one side, with the Punjabi and Pathan parties on the other. Taliban are mainly targeting parties in the PPP-led coalition. Army will have a say, either way the cookie crumbles. The important distinction is that they can no longer dictate, so they have to pick someone who will have common interests.

This was the Prediction made by BRF as the beginning of the end of Poaqisatan as we know of. Zardari has to just bring back the Paki Khappe slogan to fulfill his dream of to be known as the Quaid of Sindudesh and leave the Jagir to his Babbua before Pakjabis get him like his mother.

[Anujan]

Old PML-N election poster. Houris taking Zia's coffin to heaven. So now you know whose protege Nawaz was.

[rajanb]

How come we can't see through their clothes? The houris, that is.

the mullahs are all about broken promises.

[JE Menon]

Golden one on right seems like a pregnant houri. Either Allah lied or the fools have weird tastes.

[Anand K]

It's the obese ones that usually stay virgin. And as Shri Chris Rock once said, I mean, what good is an eternal virgin to a Mujahid with the libido of a 100 men, hain?

BTW, is it just me or does Zia look stoned? Also notice that the coffin is smaller than any of the winged wimmen which implies that the coffin is built for an SDRE which implies........... Oh wait, that's all whats was left of Earthly Zia after the Mango Dolly gift.

[Anindya]

From TOI live blog:

Live Blog: Pak activist Burney demanded Rs 25 crore for Sarabjit's release, sister says
Sarabjit's sister Dalbir Kaur said that if she had paid Rs 25 crore to Pak activist Ansar Burney, Sarabjit would have returned to India.