Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 20 May 2013 19:05

RJD, INC and Paswan will go together in 2014. Let us take friendly bet. They are cooking mirages into JDU's brain. For BJP things are pretty same.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 20 May 2013 19:06

Sanku wrote:
muraliravi wrote: Can you/others explain in detail why lalu and congress did not contest in alliance in 2009 LS or the 2010 Assembly. Whats the problem between the 2.
Actually there was no major reason, there were two points,

1) Raowl baba wanted to "put his stamp" on the picture and show how he was going to take congress to great things.
2) Laloo had become a liability, he was asking for "too much" for what he was offering. To few seats in sharing to much of "get CBI to close the cases" etc etc.
3) It was perceived that Congress will repeat the UP case, of getting more seats independently (as in 1)

There could be reasons under wraps, but I am not aware of those.

So this leads me to believe that if push comes to shove congress and rjd will go together in 2014. I am yet to see indications from jdu camp that if cong-rjd ally then jdu may support modi. lets see

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 20 May 2013 21:20

Muppalla wrote:RJD, INC and Paswan will go together in 2014. Let us take friendly bet. They are cooking mirages into JDU's brain. For BJP things are pretty same.

I hope they do. Will lit the light bulb in Nitish's head.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 20 May 2013 22:09

muraliravi, Most likely the INC and RJD will have defacto/unstated seat sharing arrangement prior to the polls and will be all one after the elections.

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 20 May 2013 22:16

The strategy is (with help from MSM), BJP and JDU break with lots of bad blood, then RJD+CON+PASWAN go together with divided BJP/JDU, tehre by winning almost 35 seats out of 40. What a reversal that would be from 35-5 to 5-35 (a difference of 60, 30 win and then 30 loose). Probably the game chnager for 2014!!!

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 20 May 2013 22:20

fanne wrote:The strategy is (with help from MSM), BJP and JDU break with lots of bad blood, then RJD+CON+PASWAN go together with divided BJP/JDU, tehre by winning almost 35 seats out of 40. What a reversal that would be from 35-5 to 5-35 (a difference of 60, 30 win and then 30 loose). Probably the game chnager for 2014!!!

UPA-3 could come from Bihar+JHK+WB and a bonus called Karnataka.

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 20 May 2013 22:25

I hope Nitish is not that stupid or there are enough people in JD(U) to make him see reason. WB news is good except two things. Had said TMC is basically an anti-left forum and may be temporary and INC plus BJP may come up. INC is coming up but not BJP. And left is gaining from the division of votes i.e. it is not getting destroyed. ABP-Nielsen predicts 206 for NDA. So need another 65 which may come from JJ, Naveen, TRS, TDP and NE parties. I see a more clear Modi effect as these polls were held after the Modi blitzkrieg.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 20 May 2013 22:26

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 20 May 2013 22:43

ramana wrote:muraliravi, Most likely the INC and RJD will have defacto/unstated seat sharing arrangement prior to the polls and will be all one after the elections.

Ramana ji, that scenario is possible, but I dont think it will bring in results. The Yadavs will not vote for congress unless there is open seat sharing, there are limitations to unstated seat arrangements and silent vote mobilizations. If BJP and JD(U) split and everyone goes alone and all cong has with rjd is a silent arrangement, then I expect bjp to come out on top.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 21 May 2013 02:31

Sushupti wrote:What Makes Narendra Modi a Middle-Class Hero?

http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/05/ ... lass-hero/

If you read this, the real dangerous mindset of communal, Islamic fanatic and Commies who pose as liberals but do every thing to destroy India and Indian democracy to help terrorist forces, anti-national forces and foreign funders including Maino clan.

Many Indians are still appalled over his alleged inaction or complicity in the 2002 Gujarat riots, which killed 1,000 people, most of them minority Muslims.

In spite of so many attempts to create witnesses, muzzle judiciary not being able to stick any dirt on Modi, the losers don't stop lying. Repeat a LIE thousand times or even million times to make every one believe it is true.

The success of Mr. Modi’s narrative among the urban middle class is not surprising if you look at global trends in developing nations like Turkey, Sri Lanka, Russia and China. In countries where materialism has been unleashed after decades of self-effacement, people have told their politicians that they don’t really care about democracy, free speech or religious tolerance, as long as they help people get richer.

So all the middle class of India (read Hindus) are terrorists, terrorist sympathizers and intolerant anti-democratic bunch.

Some say Mr. Modi is getting away with a pogrom, but he has grasped the global pattern well and positioned himself as a man who delivers, with the prosperous ends justifying his crude means.

make sure to keep repeating LIES and use words such pogrom, fascism, Hitler to make the LIE a truth.

He has used a kind of religious nationalism known as Hindutva as the wedge issue, a rallying call for his hardline fan base.

Again keep lying Hindus are intolerant fascists thousand or millions times and keep repeating just associate Hinduism with fanaticism.

Better than any other Indian politician, Mr. Modi seems to have figured out that India has moved on from being a middle-aged, poor country to a young, lower-middle-income country that now believes it can get rich quick.

Ignore misgovernance, non-development, massive crony capitalism , Scam a day of Looting Maino clan and blame it on all Hindu greedy who want to get rich quick.

The governing Congress Party, which has historically been the centrist party, is struggling to grasp this narrative to appeal to India’s new middle-class voter.

So the CON looters are centrist good guy who are not understanding religiously intolerant, greedy Hindu nationalist pogrom supporting crowds.

And when it comes to Mr. Modi’s overwhelming popularity with India’s middle class, it’s more than the economy. In fact, there are striking similarities between the rise of Mr. Modi and the rise of Bo Xilai, the now-disgraced former Communist Party secretary in Chongqing, China. Both were ambitious regional satraps who aspired for the country’s top job.

Now suddenly the scum bag found a new Modi comparision: Bo Xilai. May be the scumbag realized that people are not bothering with Hitler comparison any more.

Mr. Modi joined the Hindu nationalist Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh in his teens, which shaped his early political philosophy. He has refused to apologize for the anti-Muslim riots that happened under his watch and for which some of his party members have been convicted.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 21 May 2013 08:06

In the dim lit alleys of political rumours, it is said in hushed tones that it was Advani and his supporters, who had propped up BJP stalwart Keshubhai against Modi in the Gujarat Assembly elections. The effort was not rewarding for sure.

Modi with the support of the RSS and his own marketing acumen ensured that all such efforts came a cropper.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/indiahome/ar ... z2TtNt4taz

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 21 May 2013 08:08

Now when dailymail writes that about Advani then I know it may not be true.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 21 May 2013 09:48

Low-intensity blasts may target Narendra Modi's rallies: Gujarat intelligence bureau

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Low- ... 163056.cms?

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 21 May 2013 12:12

AjayKK · Post by **AjayKK** » 21 May 2013 12:19

Muppalla wrote:
fanne wrote:The strategy is (with help from MSM), BJP and JDU break with lots of bad blood, then RJD+CON+PASWAN go together with divided BJP/JDU, tehre by winning almost 35 seats out of 40. What a reversal that would be from 35-5 to 5-35 (a difference of 60, 30 win and then 30 loose). Probably the game chnager for 2014!!!
UPA-3 could come from Bihar+JHK+WB and a bonus called Karnataka.

What are the chances of a soft projection of Nandan Nilekani as the new MMS?

Meanwhile, Sharad Pawar, in an unusual move during the harsh summer, is touring through the usual places:

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-new ... 62930.aspx

Targeting Narendra Modi over the alleged fake encounter of Mumbra resident Ishrat Jahan in 2004, Union agriculture minister Sharad Pawar said in Thane that the chief minister and Gujarat police had killed an innocent college girl by branding her as a terrorist.

"Modi had then announced that he was proud of his police force for gunning down terrorists. He boasted that the encounter was a feather in the cap of the Gujarat police, while the Mumbai police had failed to do their duty," Pawar said on his visit to Mumbra on Sunday.

"Ishrat was innocent but she was projected as a terrorist. Now, the incident is haunting Gujarat government. It was MLA Jitendra Awhad who took up the cause and fought a long legal battle to prove her innocence and expose the Gujarat police," he said.

On June 15, 2004, four persons -- 19-year-old Ishrat Jahan, along with Javed Shaikh alias Pranesh Pillai, Amjadali Akbarali Rana and Zeeshan Johar -- were killed in an encounter on the outskirts of Ahmedabad. Gujarat police claimed that they were terrorists who had come to the city to kill Modi.

Addressing a public meet in Mumbra here last night, he appealed to the Maharashtra government to remove the power cuts imposed on the township so that the area improves.
( If the Cong-NCpee is in power since 13 years, what did they do to improve the situation, if not in the state, then in their vote-catchment areas? Nothing indeed. )

"For the sake of a few who were indulging in nefarious activities why should others suffer," Pawar asked.

Mumbra was once a haven for all kinds of anti-social activities and criminals, who sought refuge here...but now the situation has changed. Hence the government and society should change its outlook towards the township which is undergoing drastic reformation, he said.
(It is election season, so don't arrest anyone. After the elections, yevil yevil police can come and arrest onlee.)

Making a pitch for the NCP in the Muslim stronghold ahead of the 2014 elections, Pawar thanked the people for reposing their confidence in the party and said it will continue to give back to the voters by way of development work in the area.

"You should help both your (NCP) representatives (Jitendra) Awhad and (Anand) Paranjpe to serve you in future also," he said.

The NCP chief said that he would ensure that the town gets a modern abattoir and also a fish market. "As the chief of the party, I will also make sure that there is no dearth of funds for the Islamic Research Centre which is coming up in the town," he added.

Islamic Research Centre is a centre of excellence in secular mathematics where students learn that 2 + 2 = 3 or 4 or 5 depending on the person adding it.

Moreover, after so many years of mis-rule, in the name of development, all that the Mussalmans of Mumbra are promised is an abattoir, a fish market and a fishy madrassa. In contrast, the Mussalmans of Halol, Kalol and Godhra have power supply for at-least 20 hours a day.

Above again fits in line with Atri's post of future NCP - MIM collaboration in some years from now.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 21 May 2013 14:00

muraliravi wrote: Can you/others explain in detail why lalu and congress did not contest in alliance in 2009 LS or the 2010 Assembly. Whats the problem between the 2.

INC did the internal assessment and based on strength felt Lalu was not nessecary in 2009. After all Lalu has no choice of being a INC chamcha, in 2014 due to changed scenario they will need him for UPA-3.

There was no need to share loot with Lalu, thats all.

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 21 May 2013 14:47

AjayKK wrote: Above again fits in line with Atri's post of future NCP - MIM collaboration in some years from now.

A few of my friends are die-hard NCP supporters because they want S Pawar to become the PM. I do not see how it benefits them in any way. But that was the only reason why they could not accept criticism of their leader.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 21 May 2013 15:44

The ABP-Nielsen polls has given one message that UPA is definitely getting out of ruling India business.

UPA:137;INC:122;NDA:206;BJP:162;Others:166;Left:34

First time that mainstream media has projected BJP with 160+ seats and combined UPA at 137. The BJP in all probability will declare NaMo as PM candidate and take Bihar by horns.

Three things will kill INC permanently. A good NDA coalition in Maha, patchup with Yeddi and smart candidate selection and campaign in Bihar. Rest will all fall in place.

By the way Nielsen is actually hired by INC for all its surveys. They never will reveal what they give to INC per contracts.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 21 May 2013 15:49

There are definite reasons why INC should be really be worried of Modi's rise. There are indications that the avalanche is coming on. When BJP was fighting and Modi's projection was in doubt, the opinion polls have still given 140-140 to INC and BJP. Now total UPA is less than 140 and BJP is marching to 160. Declaration and couple of rallies will take to 180. It is a true statement that a wave is being built.

NaMo has to be really be careful in terms of security.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 21 May 2013 15:51

If you believe ABP polls, it is again AP the waterloo for INC. It is projected with 6 seats. If the middle kingdoms fall the evil go away

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 21 May 2013 15:53

Sushupti wrote:In the dim lit alleys of political rumours, it is said in hushed tones that it was Advani and his supporters, who had propped up BJP stalwart Keshubhai against Modi in the Gujarat Assembly elections. The effort was not rewarding for sure.

Modi with the support of the RSS and his own marketing acumen ensured that all such efforts came a cropper.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/indiahome/ar ... z2TtNt4taz

Advani bares his fangs and strikes out against Modi -

New Delhi: The rift within the BJP is out in the open with senior leader LK Advani not in favour of projecting Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi as its Prime Ministerial candidate for the next general elections, according to sources.

Sushma Swaraj and Uma Bharti have also taken positions against Modi's elevation while Yashwant Sinha and Shivraj Singh Chauhan have hailed Advani as the tallest leader within BJP and fit for the PM post.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/advani-not-i ... 37-64.html

Now it is up to the grassroots workers to take a call on whether the parliamentary board (packed as it is with tall leaders who cannot be sure of winning their own seats) has lost its legitimacy.

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 21 May 2013 16:04

The left liberal media is peddling the old news. I am no Advani fan, but not a fool to fall for this cheap gimmick of IBN or any other 'I am more TFTA than you' guy on the net. Though the whole process help identify wolf's in sheep dress. Old news, old soundbytes, packaged in one as new breaking news and trying to fool people. Advani maybe blocking Modi, but this news report is not that. IT IS A LIE.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 21 May 2013 16:56

fanne wrote:The left liberal media is peddling the old news. I am no Advani fan, but not a fool to fall for this cheap gimmick of IBN or any other 'I am more TFTA than you' guy on the net. Though the whole process help identify wolf's in sheep dress. Old news, old soundbytes, packaged in one as new breaking news and trying to fool people. Advani maybe blocking Modi, but this news report is not that. IT IS A LIE.

That is why it is very important for Advani to immediately come out and either openly accept Modi as his leader, or otherwise openly declare that he will fight to block Modi.

By maintaining a strategic silence about media reports and speeches by Nitish, Uma Bharati etc, he is only legitimizing what people are saying about him.

It is perfectly legitimate for Advani to aspire to fulfill his lifelong ambition of sitting on the PM's chair, and vigorously fight for that. But why be shy about it?

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 21 May 2013 17:09

Pranav wrote:
That is why it is very important for Advani to immediately come out and either openly accept Modi as his leader, or otherwise openly declare that he will fight to block Modi.

On the contrary, it is not important to reveal the cards now. Those asking for a quick decision about BJP's PM candidate are not BJP's well wishers as far as I can see.

Even on this board not a single well wisher of BJP has raised the pitch of "now" --> those who keep raising "I have asked a arbit stone, now spend all your time defending that" precisely want BJP to be lost in the games of dealing with media/questions/debates or irrelevant and made up issues and waste time.

The need of the hour for BJP is to build internal consensus, along with RSS, develop a strategy, and play it close to the chest -- none of which are done in media glare. The media glare is deliberate prying techniques.

Why isnt anyone keep to figure out who will lead UPA or what will be UPAs shape? They are in worse form!! But no one seems to care?

Its important not to be stampeded, I think for once BJP is doing the right/quite thing and staying as far from Media as possible (unlike in past where they used to be too keen to get accreditation from MSM)

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 21 May 2013 17:43

What is the minimum advance notice period for Lok Sabha elections to be called by the government - anybody knows ?

merlin · Post by **merlin** » 21 May 2013 18:05

Arjun wrote:What is the minimum advance notice period for Lok Sabha elections to be called by the government - anybody knows ?

EC needs 3 to 6 months to prepare for those elections. So I guess 3 months should be the minimum.

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 21 May 2013 18:28

Thanks Merlin and Marten !

Looks like 6 months is the outer limit and can be as little as 3 months. Somehow 3 months seems insufficient time to me for effective campaigning by all parties for something as important as the Lok Sabha polls. 4 - 5 months seems more like an appropriate time - should be made a mandatory minimum.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 21 May 2013 18:30

http://newindianexpress.com/states/andh ... 597527.ece

Ever had a cup of tea for Rs 1,200 and lunch at Rs 3,500 per head? Sounds outrageous? Now, simply multiply the cost of one tea by 200 cups, and lunch by 150 people, and you will land up with a whopping bill of Rs 2.4 lakh and Rs 5.25 lakh respectively. That is exactly how much the Ministry of Tourism, under Union Minister of State Chiranjeevi, paid for its guests for just a day during the recently held United Nations World Tourism Organisation conference on Sustainable Tourism Development. And if you’re wondering how much the entire expense of the conference was — it was a staggering Rs 2.14 crore for three days. This was revealed by an RTI enquiry filed by city-based activist Sai Prasad.

The details of the expenditure incurred during the three day conference, held from April 12 to 14, at the Park Hyatt and Taj Falaknuma hotels, also reveal various other expenses which seem outlandish, and has drawn criticism from activists. Take for instance the expenditure mentioned under the header ‘Recce visits for UNWTO meeting at Hyderabad’, which costs Rs 1.25 lakh alone. The RTI reply says only one or two people made all three visits.

Chiranjeevi's new scam. CONgis are raising money from every scam: small, medium, big and every corner of India

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 21 May 2013 18:32

AAJ Tak survey is playing live. These idiots did the survey in March and are saying that NaMo/Amit Shah wont work in UP. So guys beware, this is a old survey being released as if it is done yesterday

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 21 May 2013 18:34

On the contrary why can't the UPA and 3rd front announce thier PM candidates, why keep the country in limbo, UPA candidate - why media silence.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 21 May 2013 18:35

Loot around the clock!
Loot! Loot!!Loot!!!

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 21 May 2013 18:52

Sanku wrote: Why isnt anyone keep to figure out who will lead UPA or what will be UPAs shape? They are in worse form!! But no one seems to care?

As far as UPA is concerned there is zero ambiguity about who is in charge. Maino cracks the whip and the Congies dance at her command.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 21 May 2013 19:47

muraliravi wrote:AAJ Tak survey is playing live. These idiots did the survey in March and are saying that NaMo/Amit Shah wont work in UP. So guys beware, this is a old survey being released as if it is done yesterday

BJP's unofficial decision is known and the lungi dance started in various quarters. The real survey numbers are there and all the chatter knows that the fight is between a BJP led by Modi and rest (however you want to define). The following are what's going on:

(1) Nielsen/ABP poll had some jokes - (a) 9 for INC in WB - this is a joke where INC=Mamta and there is no cadre for INC. If INC do anything here that will be left's win and not INC's win over Mamta and Left. (b) Laloo+INC done but not SS+MNS+BJP

(2)CNN-IBN republishes last year's news (Modi's conflict with YS, NG, etc). He did not even meet that many in Delhi today.

(3) Aaj-Tak comes with pre-March survey to prove Modi has no effect in UP

Modi is in charge otherwise he won't even come to Delhi to talk. He does things in subtle ways.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 21 May 2013 20:15

Pranav wrote:
Sanku wrote: Why isnt anyone keep to figure out who will lead UPA or what will be UPAs shape? They are in worse form!! But no one seems to care?
As far as UPA is concerned there is zero ambiguity about who is in charge. Maino cracks the whip and the Congies dance at her command.

PMship is very different, for BJP yous can say RSS is in charge, so sorry your logic does not cut.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 21 May 2013 20:18

India today on namo at the parl board meet in Delhi

vapid stuff, as usual. MSM is determined to play down namo this time after tasting bitterness in their last round of hyper-exposure to namo.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 21 May 2013 20:21

^^^ Muppalla Ji,

Here is the IBN Survey: Fabricated for sure, but still Namo Leads the way with 38% and Rahul a distant 2nd. This poll was urban. But ABP was all over. I find it hard to believe that he has 36% all over, but only 2 points more at an urban level. That shows the fabrication (or maybe not, since it has just 12 cities and many cities where BJP has no presence).

Here is the Survey Verbatim:

NaMo all the way; survey doesn’t see Rahul as next PM

Even as UPA-2 staggers into its fifth year in government, the chant for Narendra Modi as the country’s next prime minister is growing louder in urban India. If the Congress has a dream of seeing Rahul Gandhi in 7, Race Course Road, it seems like a pipe dream right now.

A GFK survey in 12 Indian cities for CNN-IBN shows that the numbers supporting the Gujarat Chief Minister as the next PM are more than twice as large as those rooting for the Gandhi scion. The younger they are, the bigger Modi’s fan following. The survey found that 40 percent of the younger respondents (18-25 years) supported Modi over Rahul Gandhi — with Gandhi securing only 13 percent support.

Among BJP supporters, Modi had the support of 84 percent of the respondents in Ahmedabad, and 79 percent in Bhopal. Party patriarch LK Advani was a distant second.

In the overall sample, 40 percent believed that Modi had ‘clear ideas and solutions’ and was ‘business friendly and can bring development’. Some one-third of the respondents considered the Gandhi scion as ‘immature and inexperienced’ to be the prime minister. Although around 30 percent felt that Gandhi can take tough decisions and will bring development, the numbers in his support were insufficient to topple Modi.

The poll was conducted to understand urban perceptions towards UPA-2 keeping in mind aspects of governance, leadership and various other issues, including corruption, price rise and economic management. The poll was carried out from 7-11 May 2013 in 12 cities—Delhi, Mumbai, Hyderabad, Kolkata, Chennai, Bangalore, Ahmedabad, Lucknow, Patna, Chandigarh, Bhopal and Jaipur – with a sample size consisting of 2,466 adult men and women. This was a quantitative study where eligible respondents were interviewed, with the help of a close-ended questionnaire.

Contrary to general assumptions, Rahul Gandhi was seen to be doing better than his sister, Priyanka, when asked about ‘the most appealing Gandhi sibling‘.

Plagued by scams, controversies, indecisiveness and, more recently, by doubts about its longevity in power, UPA-2 under Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has come to such a pass that 56 percent of the respondents did not want the Congress-led alliance to be given a third chance, leave alone see Rahul Gandhi as the next prime minister. An overwhelming majority of respondents (78 percent) from Chennai believe that the government does not deserve another chance but 60 percent in Mumbai, surprisingly, thought the UPA did deserve another try (This is fabrication to the worst extent).

Bhopal and Kolkata still vouched for Singh, but one-third of the sample preferred Gandhi as prime minister (There is a saying that Bhopal mein BJP ka kutta bhi kada hojayega tho jitega, double phds in fabrication). However, these numbers do not matter as the numbers favouring Modi head for the dome, as per the survey. The Gujarat CM had his best rating in Lucknow, where 91 percent favoured him as Prime Minister.

While Modi was the first choice for the largest percentage, there were other non-Congress, non-BJP candidates who also scored reasonably well. Bihar CM Nitish Kumar and West Bengal CM Mamata Banerjee got doube-digit backing (This clearly shows that the survey is not representative, the sample is way too skewed, there is no way that those 2 jokers can get double digits in a good sample taken from urban population all over india), but overall close to half the respondents did not find a non-Congress, non-BJP choice as suitable for being the next prime minister.(They dont know even how to add 38-Modi, 5-Advani, Rahul -14, MMS-13, Sonia-6)

Among leaders in the UPA alliance, Nationalist Congress Party chief Sharad Pawar, Samajwadi Party supremo Mulayam Singh Yadav and Bahujan Samaj Party head Mayawati turned out to be relatively more popular. Even then, close to half the respondents believe that no one among the UPA allies has a suitable candidate for the top executive post in the country.

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 21 May 2013 20:26

Murali,
I have seen constant numbers in Mumbai, cong doing good. Either plan for EVM or something going on that we are not getting. Something that should be in our to do list. Multiple surveys have said that.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 21 May 2013 20:29

fanne wrote:Murali,
I have seen constant numbers in Mumbai, cong doing good. Either plan for EVM or something going on that we are not getting. Something that should be in our to do list. Multiple surveys have said that.

It is the result of anti-North Indian posture by Shiv Senas.

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 21 May 2013 20:38

Humm, as simple as that? Can that be mitigated by BJP leaders from UP and Bihar campaigning there or the rift is so wide that it is a lost cause?

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 21 May 2013 20:39

fanne wrote:Murali,
I have seen constant numbers in Mumbai, cong doing good. Either plan for EVM or something going on that we are not getting. Something that should be in our to do list. Multiple surveys have said that.

I am seeing consistent surveys of BJP gaining in Maharashtra and Congress losing. I extrapolated that to mean that Congress is losing Mumbai as well. So this really means that Congress is practically only winning in Mumbai in entire Maharashtra. If MNS and SS some together they will lose that also. Just look at the 2009 Election result, Congress/NCP will lose almost every Mumbai /suburb seat if you add MNS vote to BJP/SS