Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 05 Jun 2013 18:23

Sanku wrote:Modi and Advani have been meeting immediately after Rajnath and Modi met for a long time.

I think the end game of the first move is now in progress.

There is too much going on w.r.t Advani. It is impossible to know everything.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 05 Jun 2013 18:31

Muppalla wrote:
Sanku wrote:Modi and Advani have been meeting immediately after Rajnath and Modi met for a long time.

I think the end game of the first move is now in progress.
There is too much going on w.r.t Advani. It is impossible to know everything.

Why does the US ambassador have to meet him right now?

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 05 Jun 2013 18:54

Muppalla wrote:Losing to Lalu is good. Nitish will have to take measures and he needs to save himself politically and this "rooti-hui" style with Modi will not work. Lalu and INC will go together anyway. They are playing tricks to ensure max kill and Nitish has to know that he will not be in the coalition with INC no matter what. In addition he will lose like as though there is no tomorrow if he takes a secular highland.

Nitish was playing secular games: Go to Pakiland, Abuse Modi, Support Advani

It shows how much support this game has among people. Let the moron get it. He was definitely playing Advani & Maino clan game to hurt Modi, BJP, and India. These idiots never understand how they are helping the MAINO clan destroy India brick by brick.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 05 Jun 2013 19:00

vivek.rao wrote: secular games:

Support Advani
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Supporting Advani is secular how?

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 05 Jun 2013 19:10

Look at the way Modi treats this Niku Dhimmi.

http://www.timesnow.tv/videoshow/4429063.cms

rkirankr · Post by **rkirankr** » 05 Jun 2013 19:18

Sanku wrote:
vivek.rao wrote: secular games:

Support Advani
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Supporting Advani is secular how?

After 2004 and 2009 there were lot of articles , the gist of which were asking BJP to be more ~~Sick~~ secular. Apparently many in BJP kind of fell for it. I do not know about Advani, but as I said, his statements and speeches unlike Vajpayee and Namo gives lot of room to be misinterpreted. Whether it is deliberate or not, One cannot say

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 05 Jun 2013 19:18

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 05 Jun 2013 19:30

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 05 Jun 2013 19:46

A CIVIL WAR is going on in Congress, not BJP: Venkaiah

I do not understand where is the controversy? Advaniji praised Narendra Modi [ Images ], Advaniji has praised Shivraj Singh Chouhan and when he goes to Chattisgarh, he praises Raman Singh," Naidu told reporters.

"He praised even Nitish Kumar and Sushil Modi because our chief ministers are doing an excellent job. BJP-ruled states are doing very well. The planning commission has also accepted this," he said.

Taking exception to the reported comments made by Congress leaders and the media reports about the internal differences in BJP, he said there are no differences within the party and the issue of declaring a leader for the ensuing parliamentary elections has not been discussed yet
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"There is no division whatsoever. There is no civil war. Some people are not able to digest the growing popularity of the BJP. It is a campaign started by them. But there is no such division in the party. The party is fully capable of taking a decision," he said.
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The division stories in BJP are on the same lines as Hindu terror, congress needs a agenda, and proceeds to create one by hook or by crook, by subverting law and buying media.

It is not a chance that congress statements of divides in BJP have coincided with apparently unconnected media verbiage on the same.

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 05 Jun 2013 19:53

I have been observing a couple of RSS guys on tweeter, who side with BJP. Looking at their tweets they are mostly anti-Modi more than pro Advani. One of the reasons could be Sanjay Joshi episode. Secondary reasons could be his personality driven politics rather than "collective leadership". Today's JD(U) defeat caused a few itchings.
When hopefully Modi becomes the PM candidate he brings these kind of people into his fold as well.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 05 Jun 2013 19:59

Sanku wrote:
vivek.rao wrote: secular games:

Support Advani
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Supporting Advani is secular how?

Sankuji... The whole MAINO CLAN licking paidmedia wants Advani-Modi fight to weaken BJP so that the Maino can save her rear end. They all been egging on Nitish the idiot to play that game. He was playing it to diss Modi and curry favour with paid media.

The secular game even played by Mulyam is to divide BJP as Advani vs Modi. That is their only hope. No PM candidate for BJP and BJP infighting or projection of Advani as PM is required for UPA III.

Advani has suddenly became the secular paid media scoundrels' Secular leader of BJP not out of love for Advani or BJP. We all know that. Niku played that game too far. He better mend his ways and focus on Governance instead of going to Paki land and licking their bottoms or try to dictate to BJP on their candidates. Otherwise, he will be history.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 05 Jun 2013 20:01

Varun Gandhi steals a march on Rahul Gandhi in UP with rallies

Varun Gandhi, the BJP MP from Pilibhit, appears to be taking a lead over Congress vice-president Rahul Gandhi in Uttar Pradesh with a series of eight political rallies planned in the run-up to general elections. Though Varun will not be assigned the charge of the state, he has leveraged his new found status as party's national general secretary to consolidate his political influence there.

Uttar Pradesh will be crucial for both the BJP and the Congress in their bid to grab power at the Centre.

Varun, after becoming the general secretary, has already organised a political rally in Bareilly and taken the battle close to Rahul Gandhi's bastion with a rally in Sultanpur that shares boundary with the latter's Lok Sabha constituency Amethi. Varun will hold six more rallies in different parts of the state, sources close to him said.

The sources said he has identified two Lok Sabha constituencies — Bahraich and Domariyaganj — in the terai region for his rallies. The region had voted for the Congress in the last Lok Sabha elections. In the western Uttar Pradesh, he is planning rallies in Gautam Buddha Nagar and Rampur. He is also learnt to have identified Jalaun Lok Sabha constituency in Bundelkhand region along with Fatehpur in central part of the state for his rallies.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 05 Jun 2013 20:03

This evening poll

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 05 Jun 2013 20:12

For all the enthusiasm we are showing on NaMo, I just want to put some brakes and pause for a moment here. It all boils down to numbers.

I repeat again the 2014 will hinge on 5 states: UP, Bihar and Karnataka to a large extent, Jharkhand and Maharashtra to a lesser extent.

Only if NDA/BJP however you call it gets 110 seats in these 5 states put together can they hope to form a govt at the center.

At present situation is very simple elsewhere (except those above 5 states) for BJP/NDA: I am being conservative as I dont want to fall into the trap of modi just sweeping seats in unexpected places or seats which bjp won once sometime.

North India (J&K, HP, Punjab, Haryana, Del, UTT): 0+1+9+2+5+4= 21
Eastern India&UT's (Assam, Bengal, Orissa, North East, UT's: Daman, Diu, Chandigarh, Andaman, Lakshadweep, Pondicherry): 2+0+1+0+3=6
South India (AP, TN, Kerala): 1+0+0 = 1
Western India: (MP, Chat, Rajasthan, Guj): 24+9+20+21=74

So NDA without those 5 states is 102. Jaya TRS and some independents and dalals like RJD may give upto 53 seats. So that makes it 155. Even if they count on BJD or others and want to be within striking distance of power, those 5 keys states have to give at least 110 seats. That is the cold math/reality. Now lets look at the current scenario.

UP: BJP by law of averages of various surveys is expected to pick up about 20 - 25 seats. (I am not convinced on the fact that modi can single handedly take them to 47 seats as shown by lensonnews)

Maharashtra: If MNS and SS join hands, my calculation will be wrong, but i dont see them joining hands at this stage. So it will be business as usual and BJP/SS will do littel better than last time as shown. What may happen is MNS may agree to support modi in a post poll scenario and they are projected to get 2-3 seats. So NDA (BJP+SS+RPI+MNS-post poll)= 32 seats.

Karnataka: Big mess, absolute disaster, whatever you call it. Modi at best can help BJP win 2-3 additional urban areas taking their tally to a max of 8 seats.

So these 3 states give about 60 - 65 of the 110 needed. They would still need 45-50 seats.

I am not sure where that 45 will come from. The one and only way they can get that is if NDA stays united in Bihar (and cong and rjd dont tie up) and gets the 34 and they do very well in Jharkhand and get into alliance with JVM and will 11/14.

If cong and rjd tie up, then whether NDA is united or not, it does not matter much. If they are united they get 20, if not BJP gets 6 and JD(U) gets 9. But post poll jd(u) mp's will come to bjp and that will make it 15. But as Sanku once mentioned, cong and rjd have almost decided that they will go together. This maybe one of the reasons why pro-modi forces in bjp have decided to ignore nitish, becos if lalu and maino gang up, bjp numbers in bihar dont change much with or without nitish.

If Modi can really crack UP, it wont matter much, but i doubt how much mileage he can get there.

UP-Bihar-Jharkhand holds the key, in fact Bihar and Jharkhand even more, becos in UP we are getting some good surveys. The bihar surveys are deliberately omitting the lalu-sonia alliance.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 05 Jun 2013 20:16

^^^ BJP lost its deposit in UP by polls.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 05 Jun 2013 20:22

Sushupti wrote:^^^ BJP lost its deposit in UP by polls.

Was this a seat where BJP had any presence in the past?

member_23629 · Post by **member_23629** » 05 Jun 2013 20:40

^^^ In by polls, people tend to go with the ruling party as they can see clear benefits of having a MLA of the ruling party than of the opposition. (Only when voters are majorly dissatisfied with the ruling party will they vote for a non-ruling party candidate to power to register their protest against the government.) You will see that everywhere, including in Gujarat, ruling parties have romped home in the bypolls. However, state and national elections are a different ballgame where the entire ruling party can be thrown out.

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 05 Jun 2013 20:42

Sushupti wrote:^^^ BJP lost its deposit in UP by polls.

Things will change rapidly in UP after the first rally by Modi ji. Tilak , Taraaju & Talwar have been waiting long time they'll vote enmasse for Lotus.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 05 Jun 2013 20:52

varunkumar wrote:^^^ In by polls, people tend to go with the ruling party as they can see clear benefits of having a MLA of the ruling party than of the opposition. (Only when voters are majorly dissatisfied with the ruling party will they vote for a non-ruling party candidate to power to register their protest against the government.) You will see that everywhere, including in Gujarat, ruling parties have romped home in the bypolls. However, state and national elections are a different ballgame where the entire ruling party can be thrown out.

Except in Bihar, in Maharajganj LS seat bypoll, they did not go with JD(U), the ruling party.

kumarn · Post by **kumarn** » 05 Jun 2013 21:03

Manish_Sharma wrote:
Sushupti wrote:^^^ BJP lost its deposit in UP by polls.
Things will change rapidly in UP after the first rally by Modi ji. Tilak , Taraaju & Talwar have been waiting long time they'll vote enmasse for Lotus.

This is actually the reality. In the absence of any alternative they have been voting for BSP (last time) and SP (this time). Modi as PM candidate will get back BJP to the ramjanambhoomi levels in UP and Jharkhand.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 05 Jun 2013 21:30

vivek.rao wrote: If CONgi scammers lose all the seats in Bengal, AP and TN, they are a history.

If one can conclude on past indications, then JJ is with Modi. Unless she suddenly nurses PMship herself. Cho her adviser is a big time Modi supporter. So far, JJ has received neutral to positive feedback. Power situation is the big thing on people (and her mind). Hopefully she receives good advise and buddhi.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 05 Jun 2013 22:31

Recording of discussion on Congress with @Sshankara @sarkar_swati @malviyamit ‏@centerofright

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 05 Jun 2013 22:54

By the way, bye elections don't matter much to 2014 elections.

These elections are only significant for Modi & Nitish. Modi would have been pilloried by paid media, CONgis, MAINO clan, Nitish if Modi lost even one assembly seat in Gujarat or Nitish won Bihar seat.

In a way, these results are great for Modi supporters and puts a stop to the spinning by paid media for few days. I am sure the paid media will bring up some other stick to see how they can divide BJP or project BJP divisions.

Bypoll defeat: Five home truths for Nitish

Second, the poll outcome indicates that the JD(U) does not matter much in Bihar without the BJP. The JD(U) candidate himself blamed the BJP for not “fully cooperating” with him in the election. The local BJP leaders did not work for the JD(U) nominee and virtually stayed away from campaigning over the bitterness between the parties over Narendra Modi.

the social engineering formula of Nitish is going nowhere. Since coming to power, Nitish had tried to create a separate constituency for himself by giving 50 percent reservation to women in panchayat elections and cooperative bodies. Thirty-five percent of the seats were reserved for women in the police too. In addition to that, he created a Mahadalit category out of existing dalit category and also formed `Ati-pichhada’ (extremely backward) class out of the backward community with the hope that they will back him always. In a sense, the social engineering was on test this time, and it failed, badly.

Define a VISION, Deliver Governance and Development. Stop playing communal politics. For that, there are idiots like SONIA MAINO, Lalu the BUFOON , Mulyam the MULLAH.

SHUT UP AND DELIVER and then earn the right to criticize. Modi did not even criticized Nitish in spite of all the provocation. He lamblasted the dynasty because it is CANCER to INDIA.

Fifth, Modi remains a key issue in Bihar. Even as the JD(U) has gone on opposing the Gujarat chief minister, his popularity has been on the rise. It is said Modi has a considerable following among the masses across all sections of the society and Nitish’s rant against him only boomeranged on him. Many feel the latter is just talking too much and has a personal self-interest involved.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 05 Jun 2013 23:07

Bypolls results: Modi gets bigger as Nitish eats humble pie

Senior UPA minister P Chidambaram today looked grim while expressing regret that some chief ministers opposed even the modified version of the NCTC. One of the most articulate voices in the government, he should also have expressed his regret on the complete rejection of the Congress in the bypolls that took place in three states, Gujarat, West Bengal and Bihar.

In Gujarat, the BJP—or, should we say Narendra Modi?—snatched four assembly and two parliamentary seats from the Congress; in West Bengal, Mamata Banerjee’s Trinamool Congress continues to hold popular support despite severing ties with the party and a blizzard of adverse media reports; and in Bihar, its existential crisis continues. The signals emanating for the Congress from these bypolls should be far more worrying than Chidambaram’s pet idea of NCTC being rejected by the non-Congress states yet again.

Narendra Modi, summarized this verdict: “Congress’s pathetic show in this round of bypolls is the manifestation of the popular anger against the UPA. Coming right ahead of the 2014 parliamentary elections, it is a warning signal for the government in Delhi.” Modi clearly has a reason to be buoyant and the verdict impacts his advancement to the centre stage in Delhi in many ways.

The ladoos that Modi had with BJP president Rajnath Singh at the latter’s residence in New Delhi in the afternoon must have tasted even tastier with the Maharajganj poll verdict in Bihar, where his most bitter critic within the NDA, Nitish Kumar, was humbled. Modi’s clean sweep in Gujarat and the rout of the Congress in the state could be interpreted as the whole-hearted endorsement of a much larger national role for Modi by the electorate.

A public display of camaraderie with Rajnath Singh was intended to send a message to the party’s rank and file that the two had unity of purpose. Incidentally, the ladoos that they put in each other’s mouth before a confidential chat was brought by Modi. The meeting assumes significance as it comes ahead of the party’s crucial meet at Goa and in the immediate aftermath of the BJP president securing LK Advani’s nod for Modi being made the Parliament poll campaign chief.

As was expected in the BJP circles, after losing the election JD(U) candidate Shahi blamed the BJP for sabotage. A section of state BJP leaders are asking a counter question, “If Shahi actually believes what he says then should it not mean that JD(U) will have worrying prospects it severs ties with the BJP and goes alone in Bihar?”

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 05 Jun 2013 23:12

Nitish will have to go with Modi. If he decides to side with Congress they will eventually flush him down the toilet by slowly propping up Laloo. By siding with Modi he can at least retain part of his constituency and he may even get a central post.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 05 Jun 2013 23:17

^^ He got ahead of himself thinking he can become PM candidate or thought he can support Advani. Also, he got too schemy

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 06 Jun 2013 00:00

Published on Jun 06, 2013
By Lakshmi Iyer
Modi hits Congress and Nitish for a six

"There is no one left in the Gujarat Congress that can bring a crowd of 200-300 people. Why should Vagehla be made a CLP leader? Does he need such a post?" pointed a party MP, adding there was no need to get rid of Porbunder MP Vithal Radadia. "Radadia walked across to the BJP and got his son elected on his seat. At this rate, we will not get more than four MPs in 2014," he said.

So if Congress thinks they can get max 4 LS seats in Gujarat, then probably BJP can expect 23-24 LS seats from there.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 06 Jun 2013 03:40

Has Modi won in Bihar too?

How is it a victory for Modi? JD(U)-BJP friction is rooted in Bihar CM Nitish Kumar’s disapproval of Modi as PM candidate. Ever since Nitish took a hostile posturing towards the BJP, the upper castes in Bihar have become restive.

The huge margin by which Nitish’s candidate lost – who himself is an upper caste Bhumihar – is indicative of Bihar’s political wind. In fact, the JD(U) candidate blamed the BJP for his defeat.

RJD won the by-election, but in case the BJP, JD(U), Congress and RJD contest separately in 2014, situation could be different.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 06 Jun 2013 03:53

Goa grapes for Modi, sour taste for Nitish
- Gujarat clean sweep spoils Advani plan

New Delhi, June 5: Narendra Modi is set to be anointed as the head of the BJP’s campaign committee for the 2014 general election.

BJP president Rajnath Singh is expected to make an announcement at the end of the Goa national executive this week after a tortuous prelude that uncovered the intense internal jousting for the Prime Minister’s post even before the party had a realistic sense of its national prospects.

Although Modi’s formal declaration as the party’s prime-ministerial candidate may wait a bit longer, the new mandate expected to be handed out in Goa will, for all intent and purpose, legitimise his national pre-eminence as the countdown for the next Lok Sabha election begins.

“Modiji didn’t want lunch so I offered the best fruits I could, including the sweetest grapes in town, so that he did not leave with a sour aftertaste,” Rajnath told reporters after the chief minister called on him this afternoon.

The clincher for Rajnath was the BJP’s victory in all the six by-elections in Gujarat that included two Lok Sabha and four Assembly seats. What made the victory delectable was each of these seats was wrested from the Congress. It pushed up the BJP’s tally in the Gujarat Assembly to 119, two more than the 117 Modi got in 2007.

Modi’s success was magnified by the setback suffered by his bugbear and Bihar chief minister Nitish Kumar in the Maharajganj Lok Sabha constituency. Prabhunath Singh of Lalu Prasad’s RJD defeated JD(U)’s P.K. Shahi — Bihar’ s education minister and a trusted lieutenant of Nitish — by a huge margin of 1,37,126 votes. In the 2009 Lok Sabha elections, the RJD had won the seat by a slender margin of around 2,800 votes. ( )

BJP sources said their Bihar leaders and grassroots workers were upset with Nitish’s swipes at Modi and decided to step back during the campaign, even if it meant a loss. “We hope better sense prevails on Nitish vis-à-vis Modi. We frankly don’t care if Nitish walks out on us,” a Bihar source said.

The decision to make Modi the campaign chief had floundered last week when BJP patriarch and mentor L.K. Advani let on that his support was iffy and, at best, conditional.

Advani made the point at a meeting in Madhya Pradesh where he derided Modi and extolled Madhya Pradesh chief minister Shivraj Singh Chauhan, insinuating that the leadership question was still open.

Advani proposed to Rajnath that instead of having a single over-arching campaign panel, Nitin Gadkari should be asked to preside over a second committee that should be specially constituted for the state elections in 2013.

The idea was fraught with ramifications for the BJP’s power equations.

Sources said a campaign committee chief normally exercises the veto on candidate selection and has the potential to emerge as a critical power centre. As the prime patron of ticket aspirants, the post ensures that in a post-poll tussle for the top post, the chairman would have the maximum number of endorsers. Hence, sources said, Advani was convinced Gadkari should be propped up as a Modi counter.

Several developments foiled Advani’s gameplan.

This morning, the BJP woke up to the news that it had wrested all the Gujarat seats from the Congress. The victory — which in normal circumstances might have not drawn anything more than smiles — morphed into a big celebration at the Delhi party headquarters, organised by general secretary and Modi confidant Amit Shah.

The loss of the Bihar’s Maharajganj and the forfeiture of deposit in an Uttar Pradesh Assembly constituency scarcely figured on the BJP’s radar, save for passing comments of how the Bihar rout ought to force a rethink by Nitish on his anti-Modi stance.

Given Modi’s predilection to magnify every electoral win as a national triumph, he quickly pronounced the results as a “fitting reply” to the Congress while Rajnath claimed it was a “huge achievement” for the BJP.

Advani finally smelt the coffee. After Gadkari refused to bite his bait and Chauhan downgraded himself in the pecking order of the BJP chief ministers after a stern nudge from Rajnath, even Sushma Swaraj, Advani’s favourite person, refused to confound the confusion.

It is understood that a message got around that the RSS wanted to end the churning and conveyed its displeasure to Advani through “appropriate channels”.

“It is early to say if Advani has been reined in. But the others don’t want to be drawn into the muck,” a source said.

This morning, sources said Advani furiously worked the phones to congratulate Modi. By then, the chief minister was in Delhi to attend a security meeting.

On hearing that Advani wanted to speak to him, Modi decided to call on the patriarch after visiting Rajnath.

The Rajnath call-on was replete with optics. Modi went with a box of sweets. They offered each other bites, hugged, flashed the victory sign and each said nice things about the other, prompting a BJP onlooker to remark that after the Atal-Advani duo, they were blessed with another “jodi” that will “bring in the much-needed sunshine into our party”.

The Gujarat chief minister spent 15 minutes of “quality time” with Advani, according to an aide who blamed the media for “creating stories of a rift” between them.

Modi wrapped up his visit with an interaction with the envoys of Latin American and Caribbean countries that included Mexico, Chile, Brazil, Venezuela, Colombia, Bolivia and Argentina to explore investment and business opportunities.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1130606/j ... a-8dxUpek0

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 06 Jun 2013 04:49

Sushupti wrote:^^^ BJP lost its deposit in UP by polls.

Just checked again. They lost the handia seat. In 2012 Assembly polls, they got 6130 (3%) vote in this seat. Not a very representative seat for any analysis. Just wanted to put the number out, so that no one gets disappointed.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 06 Jun 2013 06:42

Sushupti wrote: Advani proposed to Rajnath that instead of having a single over-arching campaign panel, Nitin Gadkari should be asked to preside over a second committee that should be specially constituted for the state elections in 2013.

The idea was fraught with ramifications for the BJP’s power equations.

Sources said a campaign committee chief normally exercises the veto on candidate selection and has the potential to emerge as a critical power centre. As the prime patron of ticket aspirants, the post ensures that in a post-poll tussle for the top post, the chairman would have the maximum number of endorsers. Hence, sources said, Advani was convinced Gadkari should be propped up as a Modi counter.

Several developments foiled Advani’s gameplan.

If this article is accurate, then one can finally express some satisfaction. The "PM candidate" label is less important than the voice in candidate selection.

However, Modi would do well to put in place a transparent process for candidate selection. The entire parliamentary board are ex-officio members of the Central Election Committee (besides 9 other members iirc), so if there is room for arbitrariness, then the Advani coterie could still mess things up.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 06 Jun 2013 06:52

Looks like we are still not out of the woods -

Sources say that Advani has told BJP President Rajnath Singh that both the committees be formed together. One poll campaign committee headed by Modi for 2014 general polls and one election management committee for five state assembly polls later this year.

Sources say former BJP chief Nitin Gadkari's name was proposed for the second committee but he declined to take the offer. Now the question is as to who will head the second committee as Advani is insisting on the formation of the two committees simultaneously.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/bjp-divide-o ... 37-64.html

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 06 Jun 2013 07:16

Pranav wrote:Looks like we are still not out of the woods -

Sources say that Advani has told BJP President Rajnath Singh that both the committees be formed together. One poll campaign committee headed by Modi for 2014 general polls and one election management committee for five state assembly polls later this year.

Sources say former BJP chief Nitin Gadkari's name was proposed for the second committee but he declined to take the offer. Now the question is as to who will head the second committee as Advani is insisting on the formation of the two committees simultaneously.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/bjp-divide-o ... 37-64.html

no worries saar. who is advani to insist anything, the guy will be pushed out soon.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 06 Jun 2013 10:18

"However, there was no clarity on whether the party would give in to Advani's proposal to set up a separate election management committee for states heading for assembly polls this November."

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 450998.cms

Yogi_G · Post by **Yogi_G** » 06 Jun 2013 10:24

Advani is now the pervez musharraf of BJP. He's over staying his invitation and might set new precedents on how old timers can get treated if they dont see how the political winds are blowing.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 06 Jun 2013 10:47

^^^
come on, let's not compare LKA to that Paki rat. self goal if anything.

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 06 Jun 2013 11:10

My gut feeling is that Mr. Modi will not be the PM candidate for 2014 or earlier. There are too many entrenched people fighting against him inside and outside. After all, going by his work in Gujarat, it will be a stop to politics as usual and there are enough snouts in the trough to make it happen unimpeded. There could be post poll calculations and conditions that might preclude Mr. Modi becoming the PM. Mr. Modi should focus on post 2014.
Tarrel than mountain readels can lead the party and show their mettle for the third time.

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 06 Jun 2013 11:20

Pranav wrote:"However, there was no clarity on whether the party would give in to Advani's proposal to set up a separate election management committee for states heading for assembly polls this November."

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/new ... 450998.cms

Any particular reason Modi needs to manage the assembly elections in addition to Lok Sabha? Let him be insulated from after-effects of assembly elections..

member_22539 · Post by **member_22539** » 06 Jun 2013 11:32

saravana wrote:My gut feeling is that Mr. Modi will not be the PM candidate for 2014 or earlier. There are too many entrenched people fighting against him inside and outside. After all, going by his work in Gujarat, it will be a stop to politics as usual and there are enough snouts in the trough to make it happen unimpeded. There could be post poll calculations and conditions that might preclude Mr. Modi becoming the PM. Mr. Modi should focus on post 2014.
Tarrel than mountain readels can lead the party and show their mettle for the third time.

No need to be defeatist. Despite all kinds of predictions of doom, Mr. Modi is moving steadily towards his goal, albeit at his own pace. Just remember, no matter how entrenched things are, nothing stays the same forever. The time for change has finally come.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 06 Jun 2013 11:36

How IE reported bjp and INC wins...

self-explanatory onlee....