Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India
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https://twitter.com/francescam63
Just check this twitter. Some Italian scambag journalist with connections to South Asia (India,Pukestan etc).
https://twitter.com/francescam63/following
https://twitter.com/francescam63/followers
Look at her tweets spitting poison on Modi calling him Mass murderer blah blah ...
Total nexus of international foreign agents, traitors, commies, Maino fans, nasals, ISI, Islamic terrorist, paid media etc. How can Modi fight all this along with CLUELESS Indians who have no idea of what these dangerous alliances are up to.
As if this is not enough, he has to put up fight with Advani, Sushma, YSinha who are fighting with him internally for gaddi.
I get too skeptical when I see this.
Just check this twitter. Some Italian scambag journalist with connections to South Asia (India,Pukestan etc).
Look at her following and follower listournalist, writer and traveller specialising on South Asia. India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan. Foodie, shoe addicted, anthropology and literature
https://twitter.com/francescam63/following
https://twitter.com/francescam63/followers
RedCorridor @IndiaNaxal
Every other paid media Modi hating club, dumb left/con types
Look at her tweets spitting poison on Modi calling him Mass murderer blah blah ...
Total nexus of international foreign agents, traitors, commies, Maino fans, nasals, ISI, Islamic terrorist, paid media etc. How can Modi fight all this along with CLUELESS Indians who have no idea of what these dangerous alliances are up to.
As if this is not enough, he has to put up fight with Advani, Sushma, YSinha who are fighting with him internally for gaddi.
I get too skeptical when I see this.
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All the "senior" and "tall" leaders and the BJP should be told quietly that They need to shut up. As an incentive, those who keep their mouths shut till after the elections, can be rewarded with Governorships by a PM Modi. Those who continue to play their shananigans sniping at Modi through the media, should be relieved of all their party posts and put out to pasture.
Having said that, it is a big problem in our culture. Whether in business, politics, or within our families, the 'seniors' refuse to retire and butt out. That is why our ancients had the the system of 'Vanprasth' for the seniors.
Having said that, it is a big problem in our culture. Whether in business, politics, or within our families, the 'seniors' refuse to retire and butt out. That is why our ancients had the the system of 'Vanprasth' for the seniors.
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In the mid 70s the Italians (Liberals, non-Communist Left) were fully penetrated by massa and were spitting fire for massa with Ialian masks.
So could be a repeat.
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Kakkaji and Mupalla, If LKA wants to invoke Bhisma, Yaswant Sinha and others remind one of Ashwathama and his loyalty to his leader right or wrong. Even after the issue is settled they want to prolong the grievance.
The qualities being invoked by Yashwant Sinha to decry all criticism of LKA due to his elder statesman image is interesting. Such qualities are invoked always to stop debates of uncomfortable nature.
In logic it is called appeal to authority. And it fails when the authority is not legitimate or is false.
Then it becomes appeal to pity.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/
Truly MB is great. There is nothing in that world that not mentioned in it.
There is no shortcoming in Shristi. Only in our Drishti as Adi Sankara says.
So could be a repeat.
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Kakkaji and Mupalla, If LKA wants to invoke Bhisma, Yaswant Sinha and others remind one of Ashwathama and his loyalty to his leader right or wrong. Even after the issue is settled they want to prolong the grievance.
The qualities being invoked by Yashwant Sinha to decry all criticism of LKA due to his elder statesman image is interesting. Such qualities are invoked always to stop debates of uncomfortable nature.
In logic it is called appeal to authority. And it fails when the authority is not legitimate or is false.
Then it becomes appeal to pity.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/
Truly MB is great. There is nothing in that world that not mentioned in it.
There is no shortcoming in Shristi. Only in our Drishti as Adi Sankara says.
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The real campaign starts now. Till now it was kabuki or shadowplay.
INC will trot out all their pieces.
Be prepared for shocks along the way.
INC will trot out all their pieces.
Be prepared for shocks along the way.
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75 rallies in 4 months. @narendramodi nationwide campaign blitzkrieg to start end June. Mega rallies in Telangana, Maharashtra, UP & Bihar
75 rallies in 4 months. @narendramodi nationwide campaign blitzkrieg to start end June. Mega rallies in Telangana, Maharashtra, UP & Bihar
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well said, that is my no.1 in the list of things that modi has to do, rest all come later. that is the gateway to the future destruction being planned, close the opportunity and undo the damage done so far. In fact my suggestion (it may be a tad early) is to start a pressure group through whatever means available (including social media) and put pressure on BJP/Namo to get this done earnestly within 2 years of assuming power. No excuses on this subject (last time from 98-04 they did zilch on this subject), no crap about riverine nature and stuff, with today's tech everything is possible. Relocate our people so that it is easy for construction activity reward the people who are relocating well and give them good jobs and one time payments, put the fence: alteast 30 ft high, put the roads, put the 2nd layer of fence, floodlight it, put towering gates to frighten them, deport and finish.RajeshA wrote:Under Modi there can be some removal developments in the East.
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cadres are enthused that NaMo has struck at the heart of congis foundation.
No one in the last few decades has been clearer about the target and the fight taken to hood of termite colony.
NaMo has coined the term - congress mukth Bharath--- if you read the sentence it is a huge huge statement.
He has correctly laid the probems of India at the doorstep of congis first parivar.
expect vicious backlash at NaMo and his supporters at all levels.
expect fight to finish.
either NaMo or the termite queen finish each other.
India will be forever indebted to him irrespeticve of the outcome.
salutations to NaMo for correctly diagnosing the problem-- as this is the first necessary step to free India.
No one in the last few decades has been clearer about the target and the fight taken to hood of termite colony.
NaMo has coined the term - congress mukth Bharath--- if you read the sentence it is a huge huge statement.
He has correctly laid the probems of India at the doorstep of congis first parivar.
expect vicious backlash at NaMo and his supporters at all levels.
expect fight to finish.
either NaMo or the termite queen finish each other.
India will be forever indebted to him irrespeticve of the outcome.
salutations to NaMo for correctly diagnosing the problem-- as this is the first necessary step to free India.
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If i were Modi I would make sure that LKa is completely isolated
sulking old leaders have been the bane of indian politics and LKA is sulking alright
sulking old leaders have been the bane of indian politics and LKA is sulking alright
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Surya wrote:If i were Modi I would make sure that LKa is completely isolated
sulking old leaders have been the bane of indian politics and LKA is sulking alright

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Jiyo mere laal... tere mooh mein ghee-shakkar, rosgulla-pastry....!vivek.rao wrote:Rahul Kanwal @rahulkanwal 9h
75 rallies in 4 months. @narendramodi nationwide campaign blitzkrieg to start end June. Mega rallies in Telangana, Maharashtra, UP & Bihar
'bout effing time the juggernaut rolls through the fence-sitting regions headfirst.
In his speech Modi mentions the sinister red corridor plan "pasupati se tirupati tak". Time to visit the affected states (with full security bandobast, of course) and maximize seats from those states - JH, Odisha, Bihar, parts of WB, CT, Uttara Andhra...
BTW, for the records, am unsure about this grand chankian angle to the ugly but necessary inter-generational struggle within the BJP. Good to know the Sangh has chosen and chosen well.
The INC will now overturn its entire bottomless bag of dirty tricks. We haven't seen anything yet.... everything from Sanjiv-butt style outright fabrications to maoist supari attacks to doe eyed belles suddenly appearing before the news cameras claiming they've been molested by Modi... you get the idea.... sheesh..
Time for Ni-tush to catch some illness and stay away, of course... Lol! BTW, I very much like the idea of Modi junking any kinda deference to this 'NDA ally' and going ahead with a planned appearance in the state. No need to ask for JDU permission. Bihar Ni-tush ke baap ki jaagir nahin hai, after all...Modi to address 'Hunkar' rally in Patna on Oct 27
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All the dung beetles will be out as its matter of existence for them. This will be great opportunity to find out Who is Who in this battle between Bharat Mata kei Puttar and Videshi Mata Kei Littar.
Indian Politics Ka Pehla Qadam in new Generation and Paradigm.
Things will change nou and change is always better than the stagnation caused by the Khoosats of by gone era. Modi Uday Neigh:Change or Die you DIE :Getting Fat on Haram Ki Kamai: Slurping Videshi Omlete and Malai:Behaving Jaise Ghar ka Jamai.
Indian Politics Ka Pehla Qadam in new Generation and Paradigm.
Things will change nou and change is always better than the stagnation caused by the Khoosats of by gone era. Modi Uday Neigh:Change or Die you DIE :Getting Fat on Haram Ki Kamai: Slurping Videshi Omlete and Malai:Behaving Jaise Ghar ka Jamai.
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I think the Central Govt. should take over all the records, and reexamine them to see who is a genuine Indian citizen. If BJP does this consequently, they can finish off Communists and Congress from the Northeast completely.muraliravi wrote:In fact my suggestion (it may be a tad early) is to start a pressure group through whatever means available (including social media) and put pressure on BJP/Namo to get this done earnestly within 2 years of assuming power. No excuses on this subject (last time from 98-04 they did zilch on this subject), no crap about riverine nature and stuff, with today's tech everything is possible. Relocate our people so that it is easy for construction activity reward the people who are relocating well and give them good jobs and one time payments, put the fence: alteast 30 ft high, put the roads, put the 2nd layer of fence, floodlight it, put towering gates to frighten them, deport and finish.
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Modi’s elevation should have come earlier: BSY
Bangalore : Former Karnataka chief minister B S Yeddyurappa, who left the BJP and created his own party last December, has welcomed the BJP’s elevation of Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi to the position of chairman of the party’s election panel and suggested that an earlier decision on these lines could have brought the BJP to power at the Centre and more states in the last five years.
The elevation of Modi augurs well for the BJP, but it would not open the path for his own return to the BJP, Yeddyurappa said even as some of his close associates suggested that if handled well by the BJP national leadership the Lingayat strongman is inclined to return to the party fold under Modi. “I am happy with the position given to Modiji at the national level by the BJP. I heartily welcome it and would like to congratulate him. If such a decision had been taken in 2009 this party would have had more power in the country by now. People all around are happy with this move,” Yeddyurappa said.
Yeddyurappa quit the BJP last December after a stand-off with the BJP national leadership and specifically veteran leader L K Advani who severely criticised Yeddyurappa’s corruption ridden tenure between 2008 and 2011.
The BJP lost power on miserable note in the Karnataka Assembly polls last month. Yeddyurappa’s KJP was instrumental in dividing the BJP vote base in the many parts of the state. Following the loss, the BJP has sent out feelers to Yeddyurappa for a return to the BJP while his own supporters have sent feelers to the BJP national leadership to solicit his return ahead of the parliamentary polls.
In the period before he quit the BJP to create Karnataka Janata Party, the Yeddyurappa faction within the BJP had frequently stated that a change in the national leadership of the BJP (where Advani who is seen as being close to Yeddyurappa’s chief rival H N Ananth Kumar was calling the shots) and the induction of Modi would prompt a change of heart in Yeddyurappa.
“The decision on inducting Modiji as the chairman of the BJP poll panel has no connections to my own political future. It is not connected to me in any way,” Yeddyurappa said.
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Congibans as the root cause of Non successful India was rightfully diagnosed here .
Another case of being ahead of curve and uncanny ability to surpass dog's smelling capability in catching
Ghor Chors masquerading as Netas. CMI=Congi Mukt India will be a dream come true as Desh will be able to take it rightful place in the comity of nations within a decade or so.
Another case of being ahead of curve and uncanny ability to surpass dog's smelling capability in catching
Ghor Chors masquerading as Netas. CMI=Congi Mukt India will be a dream come true as Desh will be able to take it rightful place in the comity of nations within a decade or so.
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Modi would be touring AP in July. It would be interesting to see whether he goes for Telangana, or whether he tries to build up support in rest of AP, e.g. Coastal AP so as to put pressure on TDK to enter into a coalition with BJP.
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In UP&Bihar, can Modi&Baba Ramdev attract Yadavs(even 20-25%) to BJP just for Parliament elections?
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We have to watch this. What I know from my sources is that BJP will go full blown for T in their strategy. But they want to save the king from the tangle and Modi might make some statement but not as forcefully as Rajnath or Sushma.RajeshA wrote:Modi would be touring AP in July. It would be interesting to see whether he goes for Telangana, or whether he tries to build up support in rest of AP, e.g. Coastal AP so as to put pressure on TDK to enter into a coalition with BJP.
Some developments (also read in conjunction with the centerofright survey on the other thread)
* BJP is not going to go in alliance with TRS
* The T-JAC that was overwhelmingly TRS is NOW considering to be putting all its eggs in BJP.
* Though it is dirty but caste wise T-Reddy community needs a platform to vent their anti-Congress feelings as they see they are really sidelined. BJP is seen as a great opportunity.
* Other than Jagan's family on the otherside also Reddys are looking for an avenue outside INC and TDP. But separate T is something repels them. But if Jagan is permanently in jail, post poll YSRC will be mostly BJP. Do not consider YSRC as some pure Christian party. The number of Christians in that party actually are 0.1%.
* TDP may emerge as SLP in the state but it is not expected to have much leaverage in state politics any more. Its golden era in politics is over.
Depending upon the coalition politics at the center, the division of the state will happen. If there is a chance BJP will divide the state into two. The problems and repercussions will be faced but they will divide if there is an opportunity.
Added later:
T-JAC wants NaMo/Sushma/RNS to stand from Nizamabad seat.
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Unbelievable combination of international forces all unite in their hate of India & Modi and idiotic dumb Indians falling for it.
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Congress may be many things, but for its haters to hail Modi as the messiah with the heart of an angel to steer India to salvation... Gosh.
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@rakeshkotti I m too a great admirer of JP. But he cant b an option in next election @francescam63 @JP_LOKSATTA
And the foreign agents are so confident and immediately get Dhimmi Indian support against Modi/Patriotic IndiansFrancescaMarino @francescam63 2h
@rakeshkotti Don't worry, no troll will keep me away from India.
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Getting insults by some brave guy of the Modi brigade. You can understand the quality of a leader by his supporters.
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Rahul Kanwal interviews Goa CM Manohar Panikkar (video)
Lotsa fun. The guy is a straight shooter. Minces no words in saying Modi's No. 1 and that's all that matters. Those who don't like it, deal with it.
Lotsa fun. The guy is a straight shooter. Minces no words in saying Modi's No. 1 and that's all that matters. Those who don't like it, deal with it.
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^^ WOW! He openly says CON MAFIA & CBI tried to implicate him also twice.
He openly says CON MAFIA is trying to fix NaMO on Ishrat case using CBI.
Just don't get why Adbaniji doesn't get this! The MAINO clan has become so dangerous. U can see above how some garbage Italian Reporter comes over and starts giving gaalis to Modi, Modi supporters & telling us why we shouldn't support Modi. The foreign agents, terrorists, Pakis all think we have to do what they think is best for us. Some people are not getting it.
He openly says CON MAFIA is trying to fix NaMO on Ishrat case using CBI.
Just don't get why Adbaniji doesn't get this! The MAINO clan has become so dangerous. U can see above how some garbage Italian Reporter comes over and starts giving gaalis to Modi, Modi supporters & telling us why we shouldn't support Modi. The foreign agents, terrorists, Pakis all think we have to do what they think is best for us. Some people are not getting it.
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NaMo and his team is ready to fight it out even sitting in jail. Just do not underestimate their power. The only way that INC can gain anything is by slapping some corruption case. Ishrat Jahaan case will take BJP from projected X seat to X+20 seats. INC is not a fool to do that.vivek.rao wrote:^^ WOW! He openly says CON MAFIA & CBI tried to implicate him also twice.
He openly says CON MAFIA is trying to fix NaMO on Ishrat case using CBI.
Just don't get why Adbaniji doesn't get this! The MAINO clan has become so dangerous. U can see above how some garbage Italian Reporter comes over and starts giving gaalis to Modi, Modi supporters & telling us why we shouldn't support Modi. The foreign agents, terrorists, Pakis all think we have to do what they think is best for us. Some people are not getting it.
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I heard him this morning. His statement is "Age is not a bar for party work but for being an MP or minister, vastly young India needs physically fit folks to rule the nation. It is the demand from praja."Hari Seldon wrote:Rahul Kanwal interviews Goa CM Manohar Panikkar (video)
Lotsa fun. The guy is a straight shooter. Minces no words in saying Modi's No. 1 and that's all that matters. Those who don't like it, deal with it.
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Good, milestone 1 reached successfully. Rajnath Singh's continued support will be necessary ... other members of the Committee are to be selected.
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Even if INC manages to pull tricks, Modi's impact will inspire people. If Vajpayee was Vellore Mutiny, Modi will be War of Independence.
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An example is Periyar in TN....and eventually the DK parties.Surya wrote:If i were Modi I would make sure that LKa is completely isolated
sulking old leaders have been the bane of indian politics and LKA is sulking alright
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http://news.rediff.com/commentary/2013/ ... 809e6224a8James B wrote:From Rediff ticker
Arun Jaitley, the Leader of the Opposition in the Rajya Sabha, we hear, plans to reveal documents that will embarrass the government during the monsoon session of Parliament. These disclosures, a source tells us, will not only stall Parliament, but also be the dominant talking point on the news television channels (not that they need Mr Jaitley's imminent expose)
Just in case it disappears from rediff, here is the link
http://i.imgur.com/QoX1wj0.png
Is it possible that this has any thing to do with some Police guy trying to access Jaitley's phone records few months ago? Does any one remember this?
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Arresting him be the beginning of India summer/spring and knowing the temperature, nature of people, Congi might as well bend down, stretch their neck long and kiss good bye to their old behind. Congibans know self preservation and wont dare trying unless they first move Parliament to Abbottabad under Islamist security Umbrella.SwamyG wrote:Even if INC manages to pull tricks, Modi's impact will inspire people. If Vajpayee was Vellore Mutiny, Modi will be War of Independence.
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SwamyG wrote:Even if INC manages to pull tricks, Modi's impact will inspire people. If Vajpayee was Vellore Mutiny, Modi will be War of Independence.
Thats a very nice turn of phrase SwamyG.
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RajeshA ji; Should Advani retire? He already retired from active politics after 2009 --
1) He chose to not take the leader of opposition post in 2009
2) He made it amply clear in 2011, that he was not going to be leading the party as PM candidate in next elections.
3) In Vivekanada yatra in Guj, he was openly playing second fiddle.
LKA role was to ensure that the handover of power is smooth and systematic. So LKA has already retired for all intents are purposes.
as for MMJ -- should MMJ retire? I dont know, and I dont care much, MMJ had become sidelined a very very long time ago, by the time NDA was over with its term in 2004. MMJ was not a important leader anymore, so I dont think that is of any relevance. If he can win his seat (and that he can) -- then him being around is hardly a issue.
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Oh please Periyar was like that only from day 1, and so were the rest, blaming age is just not looking at the fact straight.SwamyG wrote:An example is Periyar in TN....and eventually the DK parties.Surya wrote:If i were Modi I would make sure that LKa is completely isolated
sulking old leaders have been the bane of indian politics and LKA is sulking alright
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#1. i was watching some hindi program. some 8 analysts. mostly biharis (spoke that type of hindi and alomst to the person used colourful mohavaras). anywho, one of them said that the best strategy for cong is to prolong the election to the last possible date. this reminded me of the time pressure in test match cricket. modi has to sustain his momentum over a long term period of time, and time his peaking just about right. imo, since he is NOT a maverick, flash in the pan type of phenomena, and has actual support, and prolly has depth*, he prolly can play the long game. nevertheless, playing the national game for so long in full public glare will be a challenge.
#2. in another program, shekar gupta mentioned that modi is an interesting and important phenomenon. he is a rank outsider to dilli, and comes from establishing his credibility from a state (gupta, is one person who keeps stressing on this meme - the rising importance and primacy of cms.) modi didn't earn his spurs as a national leader but as a cm. this gupta says is important new development.
#3. modi has used his tenure og GJ CM to learn the rule book and throw it back. So even though he does not have parliamentary experience, he does know how things work.
Eg.
3a) During his speech he ripped kapil sibal for jumping the gun, and over enthusiastically prematurely declaring the the center will make some law about match fixing/betting. Modi took down sibal for not knowing the purvey of central govt. it was a technical argument made with wit, which had its cadre roaring in lafter. This s a common technical issue that is frequently violated even at state level. CM's interfering with municipal level issues. happens all the time. That is why most of the grandiose plans by over enthusiastic politicians dont ever get executed.
3b) Superseding of prime minister and his planning committee by Sonia (for 50 years we have not dared to think beyond the planning comm. most sacred of institutions, he urged). brazen of this he pointed out.
#4. in another program i saw there was an interesting contrast between cong and bhajpa leaders. prannoy roy's team had done a nationwide survey on women's reservation in the parliament. the question for his panelists was to guess what percentage of people said yes to reservation for women in parliament. congress people, manish sharma and one other guy, and even shekar gupta said 50-50. swapandas gupta, sudheendra kulkarni, and jnu prof. zoya hassan said 75%. sudheendra kulkarni even gave an explaination for his reasoning: 100% women slightly more than 50% men. Actual answer was 76%. To me this says something about who understands how much of the nation's sociology. IMO, only the left and the right are really interested in the country. They have different agendas, but atleast these guys have their ears to the ground. The congress on the otherhand lives in an alternate world, and is just running on momentum. its a pity that such a vile party cannot be comprehensively taken down.
#5a. Question of 2002 GJ will be continuously raised. Modi bettered be prepared for it.
#5b. His development record in GJ will also be on play. So will LKA's "it was already a developed state".
#6. On NitiCentral, Tavleen Singh mentioned that there is an overwhelming impression amongst businessmen and janta that modi is about about administration and pro-development. In another program Digvijay Singh, kept mentioning social agendas. This will be a line that modi will have to straddle.
#7. Tavleen Singh also mentioned that last time around bhajpa under murali manohar joshi, wasted an important opportunity following frivolous agendas, rather than thinking long term and making deep impact. They could have done some much more like, for eg., batting for early rooted progressives like the bengali writer, sharat chandra, or even the later faiz ahmad faiz, instead bhajpa frittered away the opportunity chasing wild geese. I completely agree. Even in KA, bhajpa had a great opportunity, but they wasted it over nonsense like valentine's day and un-requested supported for already uber rich religious organizations and unnecessary moral policing and harassment of women. modi in contrast mentioned, women of today are different from those even 25 years ago. they want to be productive, they want decision making capabilities, they want to make an impact, do we have it within ourselves to ensure that, he asked.
#8. my only problem with modi is back in '02 he didnot have the dharma or viveka of shielding his subjects from tyranny. he could not give protection to the most vulnerable of his citizens. otherwise from what he says, and has done since, he's like miles ahead of any others.
#2. in another program, shekar gupta mentioned that modi is an interesting and important phenomenon. he is a rank outsider to dilli, and comes from establishing his credibility from a state (gupta, is one person who keeps stressing on this meme - the rising importance and primacy of cms.) modi didn't earn his spurs as a national leader but as a cm. this gupta says is important new development.
#3. modi has used his tenure og GJ CM to learn the rule book and throw it back. So even though he does not have parliamentary experience, he does know how things work.
Eg.
3a) During his speech he ripped kapil sibal for jumping the gun, and over enthusiastically prematurely declaring the the center will make some law about match fixing/betting. Modi took down sibal for not knowing the purvey of central govt. it was a technical argument made with wit, which had its cadre roaring in lafter. This s a common technical issue that is frequently violated even at state level. CM's interfering with municipal level issues. happens all the time. That is why most of the grandiose plans by over enthusiastic politicians dont ever get executed.
3b) Superseding of prime minister and his planning committee by Sonia (for 50 years we have not dared to think beyond the planning comm. most sacred of institutions, he urged). brazen of this he pointed out.
#4. in another program i saw there was an interesting contrast between cong and bhajpa leaders. prannoy roy's team had done a nationwide survey on women's reservation in the parliament. the question for his panelists was to guess what percentage of people said yes to reservation for women in parliament. congress people, manish sharma and one other guy, and even shekar gupta said 50-50. swapandas gupta, sudheendra kulkarni, and jnu prof. zoya hassan said 75%. sudheendra kulkarni even gave an explaination for his reasoning: 100% women slightly more than 50% men. Actual answer was 76%. To me this says something about who understands how much of the nation's sociology. IMO, only the left and the right are really interested in the country. They have different agendas, but atleast these guys have their ears to the ground. The congress on the otherhand lives in an alternate world, and is just running on momentum. its a pity that such a vile party cannot be comprehensively taken down.
#5a. Question of 2002 GJ will be continuously raised. Modi bettered be prepared for it.
#5b. His development record in GJ will also be on play. So will LKA's "it was already a developed state".
#6. On NitiCentral, Tavleen Singh mentioned that there is an overwhelming impression amongst businessmen and janta that modi is about about administration and pro-development. In another program Digvijay Singh, kept mentioning social agendas. This will be a line that modi will have to straddle.
#7. Tavleen Singh also mentioned that last time around bhajpa under murali manohar joshi, wasted an important opportunity following frivolous agendas, rather than thinking long term and making deep impact. They could have done some much more like, for eg., batting for early rooted progressives like the bengali writer, sharat chandra, or even the later faiz ahmad faiz, instead bhajpa frittered away the opportunity chasing wild geese. I completely agree. Even in KA, bhajpa had a great opportunity, but they wasted it over nonsense like valentine's day and un-requested supported for already uber rich religious organizations and unnecessary moral policing and harassment of women. modi in contrast mentioned, women of today are different from those even 25 years ago. they want to be productive, they want decision making capabilities, they want to make an impact, do we have it within ourselves to ensure that, he asked.
#8. my only problem with modi is back in '02 he didnot have the dharma or viveka of shielding his subjects from tyranny. he could not give protection to the most vulnerable of his citizens. otherwise from what he says, and has done since, he's like miles ahead of any others.
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I dont want to start a discussion again on what you have said here. But as far as i know even if the trimurti take an avatar and all three campaign for MMJ in varanasi, still he will lose. The only way he can win a ls seat is if he goes and steals a safe seat from someone (but again I doubt Modi will allow that).Sanku wrote:SwamyG wrote:Even if INC manages to pull tricks, Modi's impact will inspire people. If Vajpayee was Vellore Mutiny, Modi will be War of Independence.
Thats a very nice turn of phrase SwamyG.
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RajeshA ji; Should Advani retire? He already retired from active politics after 2009 --
1) He chose to not take the leader of opposition post in 2009
2) He made it amply clear in 2011, that he was not going to be leading the party as PM candidate in next elections.
3) In Vivekanada yatra in Guj, he was openly playing second fiddle.
LKA role was to ensure that the handover of power is smooth and systematic. So LKA has already retired for all intents are purposes.
as for MMJ -- should MMJ retire? I dont know, and I dont care much, MMJ had become sidelined a very very long time ago, by the time NDA was over with its term in 2004. MMJ was not a important leader anymore, so I dont think that is of any relevance. If he can win his seat (and that he can) -- then him being around is hardly a issue.
Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India
last year in the US, in a small town, some idiot enetered a gurudwara and randomly shot people. when a sos was sent to the police, they immediately came, and one policeman sacrificed his life to protect the sikhs.
i'm not saying americans are great or anything, nor equating sikhs in the us to godhra-walas. just pointing out that when the bravest & hardiest amongst us were helpless and in distress, some person of the state, whether he understood the situation or not, whatever his personal sympathies and understanding was, stood and fought to uphold the dharma of his state and duty, and in the process earned the gratitude of a community of which he prolly had no sympathy or understanding. you have to understand, that guy prolly was a 12th pass, and had prolly never been outside of 12 miles of that town and prolly held his share of prejudices.
the sikhs of that town were so gracious and appreciative.
i'm not saying americans are great or anything, nor equating sikhs in the us to godhra-walas. just pointing out that when the bravest & hardiest amongst us were helpless and in distress, some person of the state, whether he understood the situation or not, whatever his personal sympathies and understanding was, stood and fought to uphold the dharma of his state and duty, and in the process earned the gratitude of a community of which he prolly had no sympathy or understanding. you have to understand, that guy prolly was a 12th pass, and had prolly never been outside of 12 miles of that town and prolly held his share of prejudices.
the sikhs of that town were so gracious and appreciative.
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>> i'm not saying americans are great or anything
Then what are you saying?
Then what are you saying?
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>> the sikhs of that town were so gracious and appreciative.
Are the blacks also "gracious and appreciative" when US police arrest them disproportionately?
Are the blacks also "gracious and appreciative" when US police arrest them disproportionately?
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The new gen BJP team is moving swiftly to cut out the nosy middleman... great news if sustained (IMO, it will be)
Modi's elevation: When Twitter scored over television
Modi's elevation: When Twitter scored over television
At 2.30 p.m. on Sunday, television channels broke the news of BJP President Rajnath Singh appointing Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi as Chairman of the party’s election campaign committee for 2014 general elections.
But, Modi and other senior party leaders preferred Twitter to reach out to the masses instead of television. Interestingly, all the television channels picked up these tweets to flash the messages on their screens, at times interrupting even interviews with some senior politicians.
At 2.46 p.m, Modi tweeted, “Senior leaders have reposed faith in me. We will leave no stone unturned for Congress Mukt Bharat Nirmn. Thanks for support and blessings.”
Television channels were continuously debating on the absence of senior BJP leader L.K. Advani at the three-day conclave of the BJP at Goa on claims that he was upset over the elevation of Modi. Clearing the air, Modi tweeted within minutes saying, “Spoke to Advaniji on the phone. He gave me his blessings. Honoured and extremely grateful to receive his blessings.”
This was immediately flashed by the channels.
Other senior BJP leaders also took to Twitter to congratulate and air their views on Modi’s elevation.
Shivraj Singh Chouhan, Chief Minister of Madhya Pradesh, in his tweet said, “We shall collectively ensure BJP’s victory.” He went to say, “Modiji is an able administrator, strong organisation leader, under his stewardship the BJP has made a hat-trick in Gujarat.”
Chouhan later tweeted saying, “Development of Gujarat and victories for the party prove Modiji’s capacity as an administrator and unparalleled poll manager.”
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where did he pull that number from?.
Modi's elevation will help UPA: Moily
There is no internal democracy in Gujarat and there are nearly 30 crore minority citizens in the country who do not favour Modi as a leader,” he said.
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/337 ... moily.html