Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby Ashok Sarraff » 18 Jun 2013 23:19

KHAM=Kshatriya, harijan, ahir, muslim (IMHO)

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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby Yogesh » 18 Jun 2013 23:20

^^ Atri dev- Kshatriyas (OBCs), Harijans, Adivasis (Tribals) and Muslims ..

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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby Atri » 18 Jun 2013 23:20

thanks ramana ji, yogesh ji and ashok ji.. :)

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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby Klaus » 18 Jun 2013 23:26

ramana wrote: And all K needs is the license to loot.


Shame! KHAM= Sham.

Which is why it is about the right time to re-introduce Parasurama.

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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby Atri » 18 Jun 2013 23:27

disha wrote:
Sanku wrote:... while Modi's fans bad mouth MM Joshi here, NaMo himself makes an effort to work with MM Joshi and establish a good working relationship for the next steps. I wish NaMo's fan actually also learnt from NaMo instead of merely cheering for him.


Lot of Modi's fanbase are "born again BJP fans" who are impatient with the current Gobermound. Deep down they want the c-system destroyed, but they do not even know that (that there is a c-system and they want it destroyed)., they wish well but are fickle to a point.

One point Modi has is the way he can deliver complex messages in simple lines. This is important to connect. I have seen LKA numerous times, he is good - but Modi is better. In one way, Modi is being contrasted with LKA (unfair to both, IMO)., and people put in on their own biases and add in impatience, frustration, lost opportunities etc and they see everybody as an obstacle and an enemy to be bull dozed.


Here is a thought...

C-system is essential in some parts of country and non-essential in some other parts. It has to be removed from GV and basins of popular pancha-sindhu (ganga, godavari, krishna kaveri) basins.

IN whatever that remains of Sindhu (J&K), Brahmaputra (except assam) and its hill states and kerala, INC can still play a useful role.

DIEnasty, OTOH, is a parasite which has hijacked the C-system and put it on hyperdrive. Its really a delicate surgery, if ROI wishes to stay together peacefully. ROI will not break anymore, but the price might be higher in the regions mentioned above for BJP like PIF to wrest control.

what do you guys make of this line of thinking? I will reveal in a while, about the source and logic of this thinking. I am curious.. Klaus ji, your input is most anticipated.. :)

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Postby abhishek_sharma » 18 Jun 2013 23:27

UnReal Times: Dr. Manmohan Singh confers honorary doctorate in secularism on Nitish Kumar

It is Dr. Nitish Kumar, henceforth. The Bihar Chief Minister has been conferred with a honorary doctorate in secularism by, fittingly enough, Dr. Manmohan Singh. The scholar turned Prime Minister had earlier called Nitish Kumar a secular leader and then SMSed ‘theek hai?’ to 10,Janpath to which the reply was ‘NOT theek hai. Anyone who is not in the BJP is a secular leader. You need to go the extra distance in praising Nitish’.

Dr. Singh then decided to honor him with the highest honour he could think of, a PhD in the secular sciences. Praising Dr. Kumar during the investiture ceremony, Dr. Singh said that Nitish was not only a master theoretician but unlike others including himself, a preeminent practitioner as well. “Indeed, if we all work hard in a secular manner like Dr. Kumar, we can surely achieve double digit growth during the 12th Five Year plan period,” the scholar turned Prime Minister Dr. Singh said in concluding remarks while referring to the Chief Minister turned scholar.

Dr. Kumar in his acceptance speech thanked Dr. Singh for the honour and said the key to being secular was to look at minorities as another caste and not a distinct religious community. “In fact, secularism is a synonym for social engineering, the practice of segmenting the electorate into caste and sub-castes and targeting a few with customized programs,” Dr. Kumar noted before going onto reveal a trade-secret, a modified version of Gandhiji’s talisman, which guides him in his policy formulation:

“Whenever you are In doubt, Or when the self becomes too much with you, Apply the following test: Recall the face of the member of the minority community Whom you may have seen and ask yourself if the step you contemplate is going to be of any use to him. Will he gain anything by it ? Will it restore him to a control over his own life and destiny ? In other words, Will it lead to Secularism ? Then you will find Your doubts, and Your self melting away.”

The ceremony ended with top leaders from the Congress assuring the nation that the UPA will never deviate from its commitment to secularism. “More multi-lakh crore scams may continue to tumble out, growth may peter out, unemployment may increase, the rupee may go into free-fall but our adherence to secularism will remain firm as ever,” said a top Congress leader. “Indeed, we are as devoted to secularism as we are to Rahul baba,” he added to underscore the point.

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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby Sushupti » 18 Jun 2013 23:28

ramana wrote:KHAM=Kshatriya, Harijan, A(?), Muslim
an acronym which describes the INC poll magic.

What Muppalla is pointing out is the K is a variable in each state and the rest of the three are dependent on govt entitlements. And all K needs is the license to loot.


Adivasi or tribals

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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby SwamyG » 18 Jun 2013 23:39

ramana wrote:THis sounds harsh but need to shut the thread down unless three posters temper their urge to go after each other.
In no particular order: Sanku, Theo, SwamyG.

Of the 235 pages quite a few are just these three in the lead.


So decide for yourself, truce or shut down?

Seriously, how am I responsible? Except for a couple of posts that had rolling smilies, I have not gone against anybody. And after Sanku pointed out, I have apologized and not repeated. So it beats me that you have included me in that list. In fact, I am part of the members, who keep highlighting different ideas of Modi in this dhaaga. And I have been discussing with Theo on his disagreements. That is not going after him. I have not called any leader or BRFite names, and have never gone against anyone. I reply to Sanku when he replies to me. Your == is wrong.
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Postby fanne » 18 Jun 2013 23:40

Ahir = Yadav Community. KHAM came about in Gujarat (Solanki etc were the architect). K (Khastriyas, mainly Rajputs, A FC block, that means Brahmis, Kayasthas and Baniyas got excluded), H = Harijan (All of SC castes in Guj, the tribal were at that time mostly loyal Con voters, but KHAM does not capture them), A= Ahir (All backward castes were overlooked for the grouping of a bigger OBS caste called Ahirs, in Bihar and UP they went to form govt on their own) and M = Muslims. Cong game plan was that with this group they had a loyal 40% population and they will rule forever. They had ignored Patels etc in this grouping and perhaps Gujjus were really farsighted, they consigned this strategy within a decade of its formation to dustbin.

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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby Klaus » 19 Jun 2013 00:56

Atri wrote:Here is a thought...



Yes, the threshold may just be higher for BJP for the forseeable future, that is hardly surprising. Even the numbers thrown around for 2014 indicate that. However, for the INC to "roll up its sleeves" and do some heavy lifting in the regions you have mentioned, it will need to overcome its various embarrassments and own up to ideas that it appropriated from the Hindu, such as the non-cooperation movement. For this to happen, it will have to pass through dire circumstances, where the dynasty is replaced with a council/panel.

While its quite possible that various parties will note that the party is in quite some trouble and will choose to bury it with the dirt they possess rather than allow it to grow new shoots. I'm still not quite sure that in an advancing information age, a reformation of inc will be allowed. Malafide intentions seem to be the norm with it starting off with Annie Besant.

If you are looking for a genuinely-Indian political party which occupies a position contrary to that of bjp (centre-right or centre-left depending on how bjp continues to stabilize, there are already systems such as Lok Satta in place, which could just expand and fill up the vacuum (if and when it happens).

There seems to be an increasing trend towards meritocracy and spirituality, redemption is not something that necessarily arises as a consequence of such an atmosphere. Although regeneration is favored. This is not something specific to India alone. And you will find that both redemption and regeneration project(s) options take roughly the same amount of time as well.

As for ROI crash (or not), the "big tree shaking up the ground" theme comes to mind. Although it was an earthquake that would be needed for the aforesaid crash. IMO, continuing political decentralization might just save the day for ROI at that moment (shores it up in 2 crucial ways).

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Postby Atri » 19 Jun 2013 01:06

Thanks Klaus ji..

This was a district level chief from western MH of NCP speaking with some of the family elders about half-year ago.

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Postby Gus » 19 Jun 2013 01:50

Theo_Fidel wrote:The latest headline from Modi says.
BJP doesn't need allies which are against it, Modi.

Presumably WRT the JDU. After 15+ years!
This is the sort of 'with us or against us' purity test silliness the Republicans prance under.

Anyway, my last...



Huh what. You are not making any sense.

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Postby Muppalla » 19 Jun 2013 01:59

K=Kshatriyas (loosely used and this changes dependent on the state's powerful forward caste)
H=Harijans
A=Adivasis
M=Muslims

This worked wonders for congress party. BCs (such a yadavs) and OBCs (several) are divided across the non-congress political spectrum. Voting percentages are all managed by the "K" group using their money. The money really used to flow from central command. There was no bidding those days like that happens now. A candidate selected gets money from the central command and he distributes to cadre to get votes.

The opposition was always a divided lot until JP experiment and also unitil VPSingh.

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Postby Muppalla » 19 Jun 2013 02:00

I can write the meaning of "purity" that Theo was alluding too. However, that will just change the charter of this thread :) which I really don't want.

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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby ramana » 19 Jun 2013 02:02

Keep it that way. If Theo wants let him explain.

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Postby Sushupti » 19 Jun 2013 02:11

fanne wrote:Ahir = Yadav Community. KHAM came about in Gujarat (Solanki etc were the architect). K (Khastriyas, mainly Rajputs, A FC block, that means Brahmis, Kayasthas and Baniyas got excluded), H = Harijan (All of SC castes in Guj, the tribal were at that time mostly loyal Con voters, but KHAM does not capture them), A= Ahir (All backward castes were overlooked for the grouping of a bigger OBS caste called Ahirs, in Bihar and UP they went to form govt on their own) and M = Muslims. Cong game plan was that with this group they had a loyal 40% population and they will rule forever. They had ignored Patels etc in this grouping and perhaps Gujjus were really farsighted, they consigned this strategy within a decade of its formation to dustbin.


In Gujarat kshtriyas come under obc category. they don't own lands like they do in up &bihar. Until 90s in Ahmedabad most of the domestic help Bais used to be from kshtriya caste.

Main idea behind Mandal (from someone who was very close to VP Singh untill his death) was to set OBCs against this combination of anglicized UCs+SC/STs+Ms.

Congress is yet to recover from it.

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Postby krisna » 19 Jun 2013 04:42

folks can correct me on this---

This is regards to the Fc OBC and muslims etc along with various caste combinations which congis hace successfully used to win elections.
Some of the caste parties have successfully used these against the congis themselves to defeat it or reduce the congi seats in various seats.

IOW congis were the harbingers of successfully breaking Indians into various communities.

In this regard muslims are the largest castes politically.

hence the most successful castes amongst all Indians. on top of it they get enormous support in myriad ways from outside India.

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FC ad OBC are different in various states- not all coalesce like the muslims and not numerous in all states. hence not successful all over India.

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despite 60 odd years of congis rule, nothing has been made by congis to improve the lot of Indians. OTOH they made every group ask for govt largesse- pitting one against another.
This has led to the sham called secularism.

as long as every Indian is broken into caste combinations (including muslims who are advantageous naturally) -- secularism politically.

IF Hindus are made into one group as like muslims - it is called communalism because this defeats the congis winning strategy. congis will become dodo in India if this happens.

This is what RSS an its various bodies are trying to do- forge a sense of unity amongst various castes- asking them to eschew caste in name of being Indian(includes muslims and christians).

NaMo is a product of RSS and example of its teachings. Many RSS members are like this only in their outlook.

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NaMo has said in his speeches -- every Indian should reap the benefits of development--then the govt largesse does not bind some sections to the detriment of others which can lead to factional fights within India. (all his speeches are on youtube).
he also has said -- increase the opportunities in all areas -- education, health, sports, industries etc so that no Indian is denied the benefits of imroving his skills and feed his family.
This will kill the reservation quota, remove the entrenched system of castes, inequality and fighting amongst various castes.
He has been very successful in his ideas which have been implemented all over Gujarat. he has also grand and large scale ideas/vision which if done can definitley lead to congress mukth Bharat.

In Gujarat many have got the fruits of development. Hence congis are found wanting in breaking people into castes. though castes(includes muslims) are still prevalent in Gujarat.
His ideas and implementation are the ones which gives sleepless nights to congis.
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Due to the deathly threat of its very existence congis will not hesitate to kill NaMo- does not matter politically or otherwise.
It wont care-- as it can then successfully make Indians again a victim of caste politics.

No wonder NaMo is the most dangerous enemy of congis sytem.
It will be either his way or congis way. fight to finish.

This also explains the allergy of congis to RSS as it churns people like NaMo time and again.
congis always raise a bogey of danger due to RSS when something bad happens in India.

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Postby Sushupti » 19 Jun 2013 06:14

Now, BJP leaders seek vote for Vasundhara Raje in Modi's name

"Modi's mention leads to such cheering among the crowd that the local leaders do get carried away a little. The workers and the general public both get excited at his mention and at several public meetings, slogans are raised in his favour,'' said a senior BJP office-bearer.

The response and turnout at the public meetings in Ganaganagar and Hanumangarh, which the senior office-bearers admit to an extent has been because of the Modi. Of the 11 assembly seats in Ganganagar and Hanumangarh, the BJP has only two in its name and these districts are infamous in terms of internal differences within the party members. "We were not expecting the kind of response and turnout that was witnessed here. The workers here actively participated and ensured a good turnout and their participation is largely believed to be because of the fact that grass-root level workers have been mobilisied by Modi's elevation,'' said a leader.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 657425.cms

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Postby Muppalla » 19 Jun 2013 06:23

http://politicsparty.com/shownews.php?newsid=200
:rotfl: :rotfl:

I really fell of the chair laughing. No kidding.


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He never accepted the offer. Media presenting as if he backed-off under media pressure.

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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby ashashi » 19 Jun 2013 06:55

Muppalla wrote:http://politicsparty.com/shownews.php?newsid=200
:rotfl: :rotfl:

I really fell of the chair laughing. No kidding.


I was thinking about this last week. You can bet you bottom $$ that NaMo is not the type of guy who aims at 180+ seats. He must be aiming at 250+ seats at the minimum.


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Postby krisna » 19 Jun 2013 07:06

Modi sways plan panel with forceful rebuttals

what caught my eye was this-

Such was Modi's buzz that some Planning Commission officials had called their family members to have his glimpse. On road outside Yojana Bhawan, people were waiting to see him through the iron grill.


8)

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Postby krisna » 19 Jun 2013 07:12

'PM-in-making' Narendra Modi a scary prospect for CBI
A senior CBI official was recently heard complaining about the defensive mode his superiors in Delhi have got into while dealing with Gujarat-related cases. The central investigating agency, which has not yet completely recovered from Supreme Court's 'caged parrot' sting, has become over-cautious, thanks to the frightening possibility of Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi becoming the next prime minister.


Earlier this month, leader of opposition in Rajya Sabha and Modi's close aide Arun Jaitley had warned CBI for carrying out political agenda while investigating the fake encounter cases. "Regimes are not immortal. I do hope one day a commission of inquiry will investigate the functioning of the CBI, its politicization and all these above cases," he had written.
:mrgreen:

Obviously, the CBI officials, who have a long career in front of them, are scared of becoming pro-active in cases which could implicate the former minister of state for home Amit Shah. They are well aware of the victimization of IPS officers like Kuldeep Sharma, Ranjeesh Rai, Rahul Sharma and Sanjiv Bhatt who withstood government pressure and refused to toe the political line.


:P

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Postby KJo » 19 Jun 2013 07:31

The stars seem to be aligning for Modi. I hope he makes good use and moves in the direction of Rama Rajya. So many before him have failed.

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Postby Pranav » 19 Jun 2013 07:34

ramana wrote:THis sounds harsh but need to shut the thread down unless three posters temper their urge to go after each other.
In no particular order: Sanku, Theo, SwamyG.

Of the 235 pages quite a few are just these three in the lead.


So decide for yourself, truce or shut down?


Is this thread causing takleef outside of BRF (like the YSR accident thread did)?

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Postby Singha » 19 Jun 2013 07:35

a lot of senior officials and other pro-regime hacks will have to go on long leave and try for NGO/WB/IMF/Interpol circuit if Govt changes. but all misdeeds must be carefully logged and the guilty people punished.

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Postby SaiK » 19 Jun 2013 08:52

all well known means they will take from records erasing to cleansing and hiding. modi or whoever, has little chance to find out what the heck happened. a few could be easy, but this is like gangrene of the nation at multiple bypass surgery death bed levels. i'd be surprised if kangrez corruptions can be nailed so easily.

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Postby abhik » 19 Jun 2013 09:04

Muppalla wrote:http://politicsparty.com/shownews.php?newsid=200
:rotfl: :rotfl:

I really fell of the chair laughing. No kidding.

What a load of bull. Is this "politics party" even a legit news portal/blog? The whole site seems to be full of BS. I'd suggest BRFites not post from this site to keep the standards up. IMHO only.

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Postby niran » 19 Jun 2013 09:13

krisna wrote:what caught my eye was this-

Such was Modi's buzz that some Planning Commission officials had called their family members to have his glimpse. On road outside Yojana Bhawan, people were waiting to see him through the iron grill.


8)


yes that is the ground reality at least in cow belt and jutland, this his opponents know hence all these drama to malign NaMo from LKA childish tantrums to NiKu babu divorce expect some more, loike a blast somewhere or a danga or if all else fail then a sacrifice of one of the ...... ye all know whom

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Postby Hari Seldon » 19 Jun 2013 09:24

Be aggressive, Modi unveils strategy for Lok Sabha polls to general secretaries

Holding his first election-related meeting after being appointed as chairman of the BJP's campaign committee, Narendra Modi delivered one unambiguous message to his party: "be aggressive".

The meeting, which was jointly chaired by Modi and BJP general secretary (organisation) Ram Lal, was attended by the party general secretaries and a few other leaders.

He has asked the general secretaries to prepare a calendar for the next 11 months in the build-up to Lok Sabha elections. After the meeting, BJP general secretary Ananth Kumar said, "Modiji discussed the upcoming assembly elections and Lok Sabha polls. We have one aim: a Congress-free India". BJP president Rajnath Singh is likely to hold another meeting in the coming days to discuss the poll strategy.

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Postby Yagnasri » 19 Jun 2013 09:57

INC is concentrating in the South now. It is quite confident in KA yet game Railways to Kharge. Powerful Kamma leader from AP - K Sambashiva Rao was directly made Cabinet Minister. Now there are 12 ministers from AP. AP Governer was called to Delhi to discuss and take a decision on Karnataka - No division of state and a big package ( as per Eenadu news paper) will be given to Telangana region. Most of the disctricts in North costal districts have their MPs made ministers. One Cristian SC was also made minister. Telugu Tvs are full of INC advertisments of late and local body elections are due next month which will give an indication of the things to come. It will also prove the weakness of Jagan Criminal gang and also TRS - main one being lack of organisation and wokers on ground. With INC hope to come out stronger and TRS and Jagan criminal gang being UPA possible parties INC may have already secured AP. Only CBN stands in the way and he is not willing to join with BJP. The hope is Telugu people see through all this and vot of CBN/TDP which is the only party which may not be joing in any INC lead formation.

TN seems to have been given up for AIDMK and hope JJ suffer from anti incumbency and Kerala is already INC and Mlla gangs.

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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby krishnan » 19 Jun 2013 10:14

krisna wrote:Modi sways plan panel with forceful rebuttals

what caught my eye was this-

Such was Modi's buzz that some Planning Commission officials had called their family members to have his glimpse. On road outside Yojana Bhawan, people were waiting to see him through the iron grill.


8)

What Modi may not have realised was that among many at the meeting was a person associated with the Congress war-room and was later seen carrying a copy of Modi’s presentation. The person, however, claimed he had come to attend another meeting.

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Postby Neela » 19 Jun 2013 12:12

pandyan wrote:
Singha wrote:a lot of senior officials and other pro-regime hacks will have to go on long leave and try for NGO/WB/IMF/Interpol circuit if Govt changes. but all misdeeds must be carefully logged and the guilty people punished.


+1.


There will also be some who will switch sides and they will "talk".

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Postby Yagnasri » 19 Jun 2013 12:24

NaMo knows that performence is the only one thing which will make him PM so aiming for maximum seats for BJP will be there. He also knows INC, secular leftist traitors etc and LKA D4 with in BJP will try their level best to stop him. He will also factor subotage from leader like Goel of Delhi. Maoists will help INC in the areas under their control.

He also knows INC now have horrible name/image in entire nation. Traditional Money bags of Mumbai do not oppose Modi and in fact they may even welcome him. For them and for rest of the nation any one is better than UPA3 with Amul baba as PM.

So cultivate, increase, divert and convert the disgust on INC into votes is the task. We shall see how he does it.

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Postby Muppalla » 19 Jun 2013 15:17

Narayana Rao wrote:INC is concentrating in the South now. It is quite confident in KA yet game Railways to Kharge. Powerful Kamma leader from AP - K Sambashiva Rao was directly made Cabinet Minister. Now there are 12 ministers from AP. AP Governer was called to Delhi to discuss and take a decision on Karnataka - No division of state and a big package ( as per Eenadu news paper) will be given to Telangana region. Most of the disctricts in North costal districts have their MPs made ministers. One Cristian SC was also made minister. Telugu Tvs are full of INC advertisments of late and local body elections are due next month which will give an indication of the things to come. It will also prove the weakness of Jagan Criminal gang and also TRS - main one being lack of organisation and wokers on ground. With INC hope to come out stronger and TRS and Jagan criminal gang being UPA possible parties INC may have already secured AP. Only CBN stands in the way and he is not willing to join with BJP. The hope is Telugu people see through all this and vot of CBN/TDP which is the only party which may not be joing in any INC lead formation.

TN seems to have been given up for AIDMK and hope JJ suffer from anti incumbency and Kerala is already INC and Mlla gangs.


The gameplan is very clear for AP. INC is hoping to calm out Telangana with a package. Regarding votebanks, all the surveys are putting erosion of votes due to Jagan. YSRC does have most of the cadre and also most of the groups that vote to INC. This strategy is late and giving ministry to a dalit Christian is not going to make any big deal. Any percent of votes that shift from Jagan to INC at this point of time will help TDP.

Regarding Telangana, as we all predicted, their gameplan is to take no decision and keep it boiling so that it can be used again. Even in declaring package, they will keep the room open for T-state creation at a future date. If TDP and BJP form governments, lot of pressure will be put on TDP to divide the sate and also as BJP is committed it will put to uncertain amount of pressure at center. If Congress and UPA forms governments then drama of uncertainty continues. Forcefully or willfully, entire population of AP are made as fools.

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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby Hari Seldon » 19 Jun 2013 16:07

Reports say that Delhi BJP CM candidate (declared already?) and aspiring D4 member sri Vijay Goel is not going to invite NaMo to campaign in Delhi for the state polls due later this year. Chaiwala khabar, let us see how much truth is there in it.

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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby Chandragupta » 19 Jun 2013 16:21

I know many hardcore BJP voters who will abstain if this nincompoop is portrayed as the CM. What a buffoon.

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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Postby Hari Seldon » 19 Jun 2013 16:40

^^Saar, the hardcore bjp voters should defeat his seat and vote in BJP candidates elsewhere.


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