Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby RSoami » 23 Jun 2013 15:03

arun wrote:Demonstration of the IEDology of Pakistan in Bannu kills one:

Bomb attack in Bannu leaves 1 security officer dead


Mujahids with only guns killed ten and this muj with bomb killed only one. WTF
What kinda inept muj is this?? !!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby RSoami » 23 Jun 2013 15:17

http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-new ... 79471.aspx

Christian women paraded naked in Pak. Please remove if posted already

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby Aditya_V » 23 Jun 2013 15:21

RSoami, I am cross posting this news, in the oppression against Minorities in Pakistan

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby anupmisra » 23 Jun 2013 19:41

RSoami wrote:
arun wrote:Demonstration of the IEDology of Pakistan in Bannu kills one:

Bomb attack in Bannu leaves 1 security officer dead


Mujahids with only guns killed ten and this muj with bomb killed only one. WTF. What kinda inept muj is this?? !!


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby Rajdeep » 23 Jun 2013 20:10

It was 9 foreigners and 1 TFTA , so he killed 1.9 men as we all know one paki mard is equal to yada yada yada

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby Peregrine » 23 Jun 2013 21:30

Pakistan has to borrow to avoid balance of payments crisis : Dar

ISLAMABAD : Federal Minister for Finance & Revenue, Ishaq Dar, Saturday said in order to avoid a balance of payments crisis, Pakistan would have to apply for another loan, Geo News reported.

“The borrowing is inevitable as Pakistan has to service at least $3 billion worth of foreign debts”, said he replying to a question on the floor of house.

He, however, added that Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) government would not borrow on terms that run counter to the national interest.

“Regardless of whoever signed up for the loan, we will have to repay what we borrowed, it’s a matter of Pakistan’s international reputation”, said Dar.

Dar told the House that Pakistan borrowed $8.5 billion during the last five years.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby Anujan » 23 Jun 2013 21:42

After a series of depressing news, now some cause for celebration:

http://www.radio.gov.pk/newsdetail-47368

2nd World Camel Congress to be held in Bahawalpur in December
President Pakistan Camel Association‚ Dr.Younis Khan says Pakistan is at 8th number in the world for camel population.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby Anujan » 23 Jun 2013 21:54

http://tribune.com.pk/story/567326/chin ... -citizens/
China on Sunday asked the Pakistani government to “guarantee the safety and legitimate rights of Chinese citizens in Pakistan” as it condemned the attack on foreign tourists in Gilgit-Baltistan, Chinese news agency Xinhua reported.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby harbans » 23 Jun 2013 22:59

Setback to Polio Efforts in India

I read the article and when Beed was mentioned something struck. Beed is a heavy IM density area. Large sections of the place migrated to Pakistan in 47. So there would be lots of movements between Shitistan and this place with visa on arrivals for old and young alike. Am I right in making that link here?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby Peregrine » 23 Jun 2013 23:11

http://www.sporcle.com/games/wasteoflaw ... population

For Camels Population, Pakistan may be Number Eight, but, in Terms of Donkeys Population Pakistan with 4,040,000 Donkeys is Second Only to its Highel than the Himalayas, Deepel than the Pacific Fliend which has 8,499,000 Donkeys.

India with only 650,000 Donkeys stands at the Lowly Ranks of Fifteenth.

Thus Pakistan’s Donkey Quotient is over Forty Times that Of India!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby RSoami » 23 Jun 2013 23:46

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/06/22 ... nt-allies/

bomb kills two pakistan government allies.


He said that the men were inspecting the site of an earlier IED blast when a second device went off.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby Peregrine » 24 Jun 2013 01:29

In your opinion, are Chinese citizens generally safe in Pakistan?

No (67%, 169 Votes)

Yes (33%, 84 Votes)

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby disha » 24 Jun 2013 02:55

harbans wrote:Setback to Polio Efforts in India

I read the article and when Beed was mentioned something struck. Beed is a heavy IM density area. Large sections of the place migrated to Pakistan in 47. So there would be lots of movements between Shitistan and this place with visa on arrivals for old and young alike. Am I right in making that link here?


Same thoughts. Hope the antecedents in the case comes out in open. That is how did the infant acquire wild polio? Did somebody migrated from bakistan and spread the disease? But there is no hope in GoM or GoI machinery. They may suppress the details in aman-ki-tamasha and endanger Indian lives.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby disha » 24 Jun 2013 02:57

Peregrine wrote: ...
India with only 650,000 Donkeys stands at the Lowly Ranks of Fifteenth.

Thus Pakistan’s Donkey Quotient is over Forty Times that Of India!
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What about the pig quotient? Infinity?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby Gagan » 24 Jun 2013 06:50

The first thing that one has to do, when ever someone in Pakistan claims responsibility for an attack is to verify if the group actually did the job.
The ISI and its non-state actors will usually jump in and claim responsibility on behalf of some group that is currently out of favor with the ISI. One never knows, but a non-state actor like harami gul might put his bogger stained handkercheif on a phone speaker and start calling media outlets claiming responsibility on behalf of Jandulla.
And WTF is this silly reason that Jandulla gave hain ji? We hate phoreigners and will kill them?
What BS - Half of their parliamentarians are foreigners, and these MoFos hike all the way to some mountain to kill one Cheena biladhel, and some U-kranians?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby Anujan » 24 Jun 2013 06:59

Something doesnt compute. Apparently the attackers wore the uniform of Gilgit Scouts. Well maybe they did that as a cover well and good. Apparently they attacked them at the base camp at 15,000 feet! And apparently it takes a fit person 2 days to scale that height!

12 attackers, carrying arms and ammo in uniform, climbing for 2 days and that is after they have acclimatized to the height and dont throw up due to altitude sickness. And apparently they scaled that height after "threatening" a guide, who helped them climb for 2 days!

Sounds like "Mujahideen are in Kargil" story.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/567527/nang ... himalayas/

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby Gagan » 24 Jun 2013 07:27

Pakis are probably pushing non-state actors & trying to spread the light of Malsi into Xinjinag.
They got caught in the act or cheena posted a cheena biladhel on that mountain to keep an eye on things.

Hence everyone got their 72 - and some BS reason is given "we don't like the phoreigners onlee"

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby SSridhar » 24 Jun 2013 07:47

harbans wrote:Setback to Polio Efforts in India

I read the article and when Beed was mentioned something struck. Beed is a heavy IM density area. Large sections of the place migrated to Pakistan in 47. So there would be lots of movements between Shitistan and this place with visa on arrivals for old and young alike. Am I right in making that link here?

harbans, in the India Health Care Sector thread, I have posted a few posts on this incident. Essentially, it is a polio case derived from the vaccine itself due to a few reasons. It is not like polio viruses circulating in the gutters, as in Karachi, infecting this unfortunate boy. Pakistan may enjoy schadenfreude but they are wrong as usual that the polio programme has failed. This unfortunate incident does not count as a real polio case. It does bring to light a certain lacunae in coverage and frequency of vaccination and a debate on oral polio vaccine (OPV) which is the regimen adopted in India versus injectible polio vaccination.

This case might not be due to a Pakistani connection but that danger does exist.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby SSridhar » 24 Jun 2013 07:55

Anujan wrote:Something doesnt compute. Apparently the attackers wore the uniform of Gilgit Scouts. Well maybe they did that as a cover well and good. Apparently they attacked them at the base camp at 15,000 feet! And apparently it takes a fit person 2 days to scale that height!

12 attackers, carrying arms and ammo in uniform, climbing for 2 days and that is after they have acclimatized to the height and dont throw up due to altitude sickness. And apparently they scaled that height after "threatening" a guide, who helped them climb for 2 days!

Sounds like "Mujahideen are in Kargil" story.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/567527/nang ... himalayas/

Anujan ji, why should the PA be interested in killing the Chinese, unless it was a renegade PA unit that owes allegiance to TTP ? There has been a lot of TTP activity in Chilas and Jandullah has been especially active here. See this for example.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby svinayak » 24 Jun 2013 08:44

SSridhar wrote:
Anujan wrote:Something doesnt compute. Apparently the attackers wore the uniform of Gilgit Scouts. Well maybe they did that as a cover well and good. Apparently they attacked them at the base camp at 15,000 feet! And apparently it takes a fit person 2 days to scale that height!

12 attackers, carrying arms and ammo in uniform, climbing for 2 days and that is after they have acclimatized to the height and dont throw up due to altitude sickness. And apparently they scaled that height after "threatening" a guide, who helped them climb for 2 days!

Sounds like "Mujahideen are in Kargil" story.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/567527/nang ... himalayas/

Anujan ji, why should the PA be interested in killing the Chinese, unless it was a renegade PA unit that owes allegiance to TTP ? There has been a lot of TTP activity in Chilas and Jandullah has been especially active here. See this for example.


The fotos look really like the Chinese military PLA members

This combination to check out the terrain and get some details on the terrain is crucial to plan long term operation.
Nanga Parbhat is connected to skardu and this area is crucial to take over POK and create freedom for Balwaristan.

PA may have suspected an international behind the scene recon and may have acted

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby SSridhar » 24 Jun 2013 08:57

Acharya, Nanga Parbat, K2, many many Kangris, passes and glaciers in this region have been climbed and traversed by international expedition groups before. They have been Western (US, British, Italian, German) and Japanese teams essentially. GoP have traditionally permitted these climbers. These areas have been extensively mapped by them by the 80s. It was the PA's attempt to extend the system of permission to Siachen that eventually triggered Op Meghdoot. The Chinese were not known to be part of those climbers, expeditioners before. As part of their occupation of GB, they may be mapping out these areas now. The decision to lease out GB to China is jointly and strategically taken by the GoP and PA with an unanimity of view. So, no PA general could have authorized the killing of these Chinese mountaineers. I still believe that it could be TTP/Jandullah as they really claim this to be or renegade PA soldiers owing allegiance to the Talibani cause or both. If it is the latter two, it is a very serious matter as it shows deep divide within the PA. Chinese in Pakistan have been consistently targetted by Islamist jihadists in Pakistan.

10 including 9 foreigners killed in Pakistan's northern area of Gilgit

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby Anujan » 24 Jun 2013 09:19

I was trying to find out if it is any of the TFTAs turning a better shade of green.

Remember the Mehran base attack? The latest attack could be the handiwork of the TFTAs dissatisfied with the direction higher level Jernails and Kernails are taking.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby SSridhar » 24 Jun 2013 09:41

The Mehran base attack was a combined effort, internal and external. So were the suicide attacks on Musharraf before, for example. If the Nanga Parbat attack is a similar one, then it is for the first time that a combined attack has been launched against the Chinese. It thus significantly differs from the earlier attacks on the Chinese by Baitullah Mehsud, Ghazi brothers et al.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby ArmenT » 24 Jun 2013 09:55

Anujan wrote:Something doesnt compute. Apparently the attackers wore the uniform of Gilgit Scouts. Well maybe they did that as a cover well and good. Apparently they attacked them at the base camp at 15,000 feet! And apparently it takes a fit person 2 days to scale that height!

12 attackers, carrying arms and ammo in uniform, climbing for 2 days and that is after they have acclimatized to the height and dont throw up due to altitude sickness. And apparently they scaled that height after "threatening" a guide, who helped them climb for 2 days!

Sounds like "Mujahideen are in Kargil" story.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/567527/nang ... himalayas/

Only scenario I can think that makes sense is that they got some intel that some other group was operating in the area (say, a Western country SF or SDRE SF group) and sent a bunch of Gilgit Scouts to check it out. The scouts found a group of people camping, decided that they were the group that they were sent to find and opened fire. After the smoke cleared, they had an *oh crap!* moment and then came up with this cock-and-bull story of jihadis dressed in Gilgit Scout uniforms to cover their asses.

Of course, this is only a theory, so take it for what it is worth only.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby krishnan » 24 Jun 2013 10:04

why would they need a guide ??? wouldnt army known the place

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby SSridhar » 24 Jun 2013 10:15

Meanwhile, BSF will get Fast Attack craft to patrol Sir Creek - ToI
The Border Security Force (BSF) is set to beef up patrolling in the treacherous creeks in Gujarat's Rann of Kutch on the India-Pakistan border with the help of fast attack craft (FAC).

Currently, speed boats and mechanized crafts are used by the BSF's water wing to patrol the creeks of the Rann of Kutch criss-crossing through 4,050 sq km. The creeks are navigable only by boats but their movement is dependent on the water level. During high tide, when water gushes in from the Arabian Sea, BSF sends out its patrol boats to the network of creeks branching out from Sir Creek, a tributary of the Indus river, and the Harami Nala.

However, given the strategic location of the creeks, rich in hydrocarbons, minerals and fish, the BSF felt the need for a faster response time, said a senior officer posted in the area.

Early this month, BSF received an input that a group of men in boats were trying to cross into India from Pakistan in boats. Though unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) were mounted for surveillance soon after, the BSF, which has three battalions to man the creeks, could send out a patrol only a day later. An extensive four-day operation followed and the input was found to be a false alarm.

"But it proved to us that we did not have the infrastructure to surmount the problems posed by nature in this area,'' a BSF officer said.

The fast attack crafts are expected to be a step ahead as it can operate in shallow water, too.

"We will soon induct four US-made fast attack crafts," said A K Sinha, IG, BSF (Gujarat Frontier). {I thought GRSE makes indigenous FACs. Why are we buying from the US ?} The bullet-proof FACs move at twice the speed of existing speed boats and are fitted with arms. This will boost surveillance in the vast uninhabited salt marshes. If UAVs pick up any suspicious movement, the FACs can respond faster.

The BSF, which coordinates between 15 security and intelligence agencies operating in the Rann area, will also have more all-terrain vehicles (ATVs) to patrol the vast and inaccessible marshes of the Rann.

Though inaccessible, the Rann has immense strategic importance. A dispute over the India-Pakistan international border in Sir Creek triggered the first war between the two neighbours outside Jammu and Kashmir. Till today, the dispute over about 104 km in this area remains unresolved, making it an overly sensitive zone.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby member_23252 » 24 Jun 2013 10:59

Kerry’s soft line on Pakistan a sore subject

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry avoided associating Pakistan with terrorism and instead advised India to deepen bilateral trade ties with its neighbour. On his first visit after taking over as Secretary of State, Mr. Kerry hoped the two countries build up enough trust to start investing in each other’s economies so that “others could invest in you,” he said in a reference to the hostility between the two countries that keeps many potential investors away.

Mr. Kerry arrived here for the fourth Indo-US Strategic Dialogue that is chaired by the foreign ministers of both countries. Departing from his predecessor Hillary Clinton’s line of commiserating with the victims of the 2008 Mumbai attacks, he opted to sympathise with the victims of the Uttarakhand flash floods instead.

His stance on India-Pakistan ties, articulated during a 45-minute speech this evening, left Indian diplomats displeased because Mr. Kerry has the perception of being soft on Pakistan unlike Ms. Clinton. Diplomats will now wait for the joint statement to be released after his strategic dialogue with External Affairs Minister Salman Khurshid on Monday to see if it will mention “safe havens of terrorism”, a euphemism to anti-Kabul elements based in Pakistan’s Federally Administered Tribal Areas such as South Waziristan and Khyber on the Af-Pak border.


Mr. Kerry also said improved India-Pakistan ties are a catalyst for promoting regional trade and connectivity, which in turn could turn around Afghanistan’s fortunes. Last year, India-Pakistan trade had gone up by 21 per cent, but Mr. Kerry said there was still a long way to go. Both countries have had an acrimonious past but there is a new leadership in place in Islamabad which has indicated that economical revival is its number one priority. This approach could mark the “beginning of a new era” and “hopefully improve trust.” While half of his speech was devoted to clean energy :?: and how India needs to be proactive, Mr. Kerry also touched on Afghanistan. India and the U.S. differ on holding talks with the Taliban leadership.

Mr. Kerry sought to draw New Delhi’s attention to next year’s presidential elections in Afghanistan that could mark the first-ever peaceful transition of leadership in recent history. The U.S. wants Taliban to renounce violence, break its ties with Al Qaida and accept the Afghan Constitution before any settlement with the group could be taken up, he said.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby partha » 24 Jun 2013 12:42

ArmenT wrote:
Anujan wrote:Something doesnt compute. Apparently the attackers wore the uniform of Gilgit Scouts. Well maybe they did that as a cover well and good. Apparently they attacked them at the base camp at 15,000 feet! And apparently it takes a fit person 2 days to scale that height!

12 attackers, carrying arms and ammo in uniform, climbing for 2 days and that is after they have acclimatized to the height and dont throw up due to altitude sickness. And apparently they scaled that height after "threatening" a guide, who helped them climb for 2 days!

Sounds like "Mujahideen are in Kargil" story.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/567527/nang ... himalayas/

Only scenario I can think that makes sense is that they got some intel that some other group was operating in the area (say, a Western country SF or SDRE SF group) and sent a bunch of Gilgit Scouts to check it out. The scouts found a group of people camping, decided that they were the group that they were sent to find and opened fire. After the smoke cleared, they had an *oh crap!* moment and then came up with this cock-and-bull story of jihadis dressed in Gilgit Scout uniforms to cover their asses.

Of course, this is only a theory, so take it for what it is worth only.

No Armenji, it is not that they just opened fire and then went oh crap. Every dead person had been shot in the head. I think they knew what they were doing. It is indeed puzzling that they went all the way to Nanga Parbat base camp to target foreigners when they could have found many more easily.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby symontk » 24 Jun 2013 12:51

Still the theory of ArmenT holds, how do we know whether it wasnt outsourced by PA / ISI? Nanga Parbat is close to china too

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby partha » 24 Jun 2013 13:22

Irfan Hussain in Dawn -

Obama: rhetoric vs reality. An article about internal politics of US.

Only in Pakistan you can find such useless / irrelevant articles when the country is going to dogs. Or pigs.

Also spotted in Paki press in the last few days when Shias were being slaughtered and Ahmedi businesses were being forced to close - op-eds on fascist (Modi) take over of India, Bihar model, Modi vs Nitish, Obama vs Putin, about "forgiving India" (lulz), joint governance of Kashmir (lulz), NSA & PRISM.

I am sure there are op-eds on Egypt and Palestine too which I have missed.

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Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby Peregrine » 24 Jun 2013 13:27

disha wrote:
Peregrine wrote: ...
India with only 650,000 Donkeys stands at the Lowly Ranks of Fifteenth.

Thus Pakistan’s Donkey Quotient is over Forty Times that Of India!
....


What about the pig quotient? Infinity?


disha Ji :

Pig Population shoots up by 47 percent since 1998

Total : 197,361,691 in 2011. By now it should be 210 Million!

Thus Quotient : 600

OH MY! Pakistan has a big pig problem

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby krishnan » 24 Jun 2013 13:38

13:19 Taliban claims responsibility for killing tourists in Pak: Banned organisation Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan has claimed responsibility for the killing of nine foreign tourists and their guide in Gilgit-Balitistan.

TTP spokesperson Ehsanullah Ehsan called The Express Tribune and said the Junud-e-Hafsa -- a faction of the group -- carried out the brutal attack.

According to the report, the group carried out the attack to avenge US drone attacks and the killing of TTP chief Waliur Rehman Mehsud.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby partha » 24 Jun 2013 13:43

One more Paki lays claim to Indic civilizational and cultural heritage. Just like this - viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6533&p=1454419#p1454419

http://tribune.com.pk/story/566430/mons ... opolitics/

The writer is a former ambassador to the UN and a former foreign secretary of Pakistan


No wonder, my friend sitting in Kathmandu, with Himalayan overview of monsoonal rainbows, could not have come out with a more romantic theme for resuscitation of the lost South Asian charm. He believes that once we get past the hurdle of rolling South Asia around on our tongues and brains, a lot of things will fall into place, including “retroactive regionalism” — according to which Babar, Sher Shah Suri, Chandragupta Maurya, Asoka would all be ‘historically Indians’ but present-day ‘South Asians’. In that sense, perhaps, Gandhi and Jinnah, the revered fathers of their respective nation states, too, would be more South Asian rather than Indian or Pakistani. Both lived only for a few months as citizens of their newly-independent states.

It has been over six and a half decades since India the nation state was established as a truncated version of historical ‘India’. Locating India within a larger whole becomes easier when we bear in mind that India the nation-state cannot all by itself carry the legacy and meaning of ‘Jambudvipa’ or ‘Indic civilisation’. In fact, Pakistan as the physical inheritor of the real Indus River Civilisation is more “Indic” than India which today culturally represents a hybrid of Hindu, Muslim, Sikh and Christian influences. For the sake of the people of India, as well as of South Asia, whose future is defined to such a large extent by India, my friend in Kathmandu, a committed bearer of South Asia’s ragtag flag, has reason to ask: “Are we sure about India as it is constructed or isn’t it time to consider reformatting?”

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby SSridhar » 24 Jun 2013 14:02

partha wrote:Only in Pakistan you can find such useless / irrelevant articles when the country is going to dogs. Or pigs.

Also spotted in Paki press in the last few days when Shias were being slaughtered and Ahmedi businesses were being forced to close - op-eds on fascist (Modi) take over of India, Bihar model, Modi vs Nitish, Obama vs Putin, about "forgiving India" (lulz), joint governance of Kashmir (lulz), NSA & PRISM.

I am sure there are op-eds on Egypt and Palestine too which I have missed.

And, Syria, Turkey, Singapore's haze problem, Snowden effect etc. They have to put up a pretense, a pretense of being a normal nation-state. They could never overcome the fact that they were an illegal and unnatural construct. Every passing day only confirms this status even more loudly. So, they resort to these intellectual ejections.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby a_bharat » 24 Jun 2013 14:12

partha wrote:One more Paki lays claim to Indic civilizational and cultural heritage. Just like this - viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6533&p=1454419#p1454419
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It has been over six and a half decades since India the nation state was established as a truncated version of historical ‘India’. Locating India within a larger whole becomes easier when we bear in mind that India the nation-state cannot all by itself carry the legacy and meaning of ‘Jambudvipa’ or ‘Indic civilisation’. In fact, Pakistan as the physical inheritor of the real Indus River Civilisation is more “Indic” than India which today culturally represents a hybrid of Hindu, Muslim, Sikh and Christian influences. For the sake of the people of India, as well as of South Asia, whose future is defined to such a large extent by India, my friend in Kathmandu, a committed bearer of South Asia’s ragtag flag, has reason to ask: “Are we sure about India as it is constructed or isn’t it time to consider reformatting?”


Translation:
We are now in a pit; the world laughs at us when we pretend to be arabs. We are too proud to beg India to take us back. We want to call ourselves South Asians now. Please, please, please ... you also call yourselves South Asians.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby anupmisra » 24 Jun 2013 15:29

a_bharat wrote:Translation: We (as pakis) are now in a (crap) pit; the (civilized) world laughs at us (pakis) when we (were forced to misguidedly ) pretend to be (pakis of) arab (origins). We (paki of mixed-arab/turki origins) are too proud to beg (demand) India to take us (pakis of original Indus-Saraswati background) back. We (therefore, paki-indics) want to call ourselves South Asians now. Please, please, please ... you also call yourselves South Asians (of the Ummah).



There! Corrected it.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby anupmisra » 24 Jun 2013 15:36

Towel thread needed for this one. U.N. says Pakistan has food "emergency", but donors look elsewhere. A Reuters/Yahoo story.

Hunger in Pakistan is at emergency levels after years of conflict and floods, but funding has dwindled as new crises such as Syria grab donors' attention, the United Nations food aid chief said on Sunday.
about half of Pakistan's population still does not have secure access to enough food, up from a little over a third a decade ago
There is growing concern that international donors will lose interest in the unstable border areas after the withdrawal next year of U.S.-led foreign forces from Afghanistan.


Hey Pakis: Take a cue from the little man with the bad haircut in North Korea.

North Korea is even worse hit by funding shortages, Cousin said, partly due to a drop in donations noticed at the beginning of this year, when Pyongyang threatened to launch a nuclear attack on the United States.


Paki trolls: ask your third cousin from your second wife/cousin's side who works for the strategic command to declare war on India and Afghanistan. Do a North Korea. Watch the world pay attention then. Problem solved!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby SSridhar » 24 Jun 2013 16:15

anupmisra wrote:Hey Pakis: Take a cue from the little man with the bad haircut in North Korea.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby Rajdeep » 24 Jun 2013 16:56

Pervez Musharraf to face trial for treason, Pak PM Nawaz Sharif says

"Musharraf's actions came under the purview of high treason," Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif told parliament. "He should face trial... and will have to answer for his guilt before the court," he added.

The attorney general delivered the same statement on behalf of the government in the Supreme Court, where a treason trial can be initiated only by the state.

"Musharraf violated the constitution twice. He overthrew an elected government in 1999 and put everything into jeopardy. He sacked judges and imprisoned them," said Sharif.

"We will follow the process of law and all political forces will be taken into confidence," he added.

The position will complicate the chances of a quiet deal that Musharraf's legal team had hoped would allow him to win bail and quietly leave the country.

It could also put the civilian government at loggerheads with the powerful army, which vehemently opposes the prospect of its former chief facing the courts in Pakistan.

But it was welcomed by the two main opposition parties, Bhutto's Pakistan People's Party (PPP) and Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) led by politician Imran Khan.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby Baikul » 24 Jun 2013 17:25

RSoami wrote:http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/pakistan/Christian-women-paraded-naked-in-Pak/Article1-1079471.aspx

Christian women paraded naked in Pak. Please remove if posted already


Aditya_V wrote:RSoami, I am cross posting this news, in the oppression against Minorities in Pakistan


What oppression, saar? Christian women are paraded naked in the West, America and particularly Hollywood, daily onlee.

Now that they also paraded in Pakistan, people are complaining?????

I protest this religious and ethnocentric bias against strategically placed Pakistan, and demand $3 billion as compensation in lost revenues for not being able to freely parade Christian women naked.


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