Phone, Tablet and Gizmo Thread #0x02

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 24 Jun 2013 10:50

Mort Walker wrote:^^^The 50 KVA motors between the wheels needs power and in new aircraft like the 787 and A350 it can be implemented easier with it's newer electrical system.

There is a lot of work going on in the commercial aircraft industry to improve fuel efficiency. Its too bad N^3 isn't here anymore to provide us details. In the US, Boeing has a shortage of aerospace and electrical engineers. Fresh graduates with only an undergrad degree are being picked up with a starting salary of $80K. Grad degree holders and P.chaadis are picked up for significantly higher. Some reports of P.chaddi aerospace engineers with structural design background are being picked up for $200K by Boeing. Most kids are interested in IT these days or developing the next "killer app".

Boeing PhantomWorks office in Seattle area has a huge Infy building near it - I wonder if they supply slaves to the massa.

rajkumar · Post by **rajkumar** » 24 Jun 2013 13:17

Boeing PhantomWorks office in Seattle area has a huge Infy building near it - I wonder if they supply slaves to the massa.

Yes they do...huge number of Indians both onshore and offshore.

member_23651 · Post by **member_23651** » 24 Jun 2013 14:56

Raja Bose wrote:^^^^It hits the roadblocks all new OSs today hit.....ecosystem, ecosystem, ecosystem. People get too enamoured with the technology and visuals that they forget what kills or keeps an OS. For example, whoever keeps saying GB should have just continued down the Meego path forget that it takes massive time advantage to create an ecosystem along with lots of leverage with carriers and device manufacturers. Its a hard chicken and egg problem, not to mention a super hard bizdev problem. Technology has almost nothing to do with it unless the OS is doing something fundamentally disruptive. And slapping some runtime to supports another popular OSs apps is not a solution either. As a device manufacturer or carrier why would I choose a consumer offering with your OS vs another one - what extra value proposition in terms of services, revenue, wow factor do you bring in? That's where the Firefox OS, Ubuntu Mobile, Sailfish OS all face roadblocks.

Exactly, Same is the case with blackberry 10. An excellent OS with excellent mailing application which I found better startup os when compared to wm 7. The only thing it lacks is *good* number of ~~apps~~ *good & usable* apps. Cramming an OS with lots of s/w features is just not enough to sell mobile os these days. A regular ios/android power user find difficult to switch because these days they want more than just camera mail phone calendar notes apps.
I am seriously torn apart between buying BB 10 or an iphone 5. I like Iphone 5 because I will not have to buy apps which I was using earlier on my now lost iphone 4. And I like BB 10 because of its excellent mailing application: HUB & BBM. Also I found screen transitions to be smoother than android & comparable with windows mobile 8.

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 24 Jun 2013 18:58

BBM is coming to other platforms - no point in buying BB hardware anymore. People used to buy BB for its excellent KB and well integrated mail and messaging but now with their services becoming cross platform and KB missing, BB has lost the USP of its hardware. Stick to iPhunwa if you are already in that ecosystem.

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 24 Jun 2013 23:30

Raja Bose wrote:Boeing PhantomWorks office in Seattle area has a huge Infy building near it - I wonder if they supply slaves to the massa.

Maybe for IT work. But I really doubt INFY has experienced aerospace and electrical engineers on their staff. Anyways, Boeing has locations in various places around CONUS. There is a big Phantom Works division in STL where McDonnell Douglas as well, and they hire aerospace structural engineers in other locations as well.

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 24 Jun 2013 23:34

Raja Bose wrote:^^^Arrey Mortu-tau, yeh GeekBench chalane ka kya fayeda aur hardware specs se mijjile maalish karke kya fayeda jab phunwa tootay huay bail-gaddi jaisa ladkhadata hai every once in a while?

Geekbench is a reference that works on different platforms and OSes. It provides reference only based on h/w specifications. Yes, h/w specifications are not the only parameter used to evaluate any device, but it is a reference, especially on the same device across different carriers as it will give some indication of performance.

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 24 Jun 2013 23:37

^^^^I know tau-ji, bas thodi aapki kheenchai kar rahe thay.

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 24 Jun 2013 23:38

TSMC reaches deal with Apple to supply 20nm, 16nm and 10nm chips

So Sammy's fab plant is out for Apple, especially the one in Austin. This explains why they (Sammy) may fab SoCs for NVIDIA in Austin.

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 24 Jun 2013 23:46

^^^NVDA probably cant guarantee enough volume to keep the Austin fab busy so it will handle internal Sammy work too.

Who is using Tegra4 in volume now?? Its almost like QCOM is the only big dog left amongst suppliers.

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 24 Jun 2013 23:48

Raja Bose wrote:^^^^I know tau-ji, bas thodi aapki kheenchai kar rahe thay.

Likin, hum aap ke tara jaaldi se nahi response kar sak thay.

Laagta hai ke aap ka phunwa aur VZW lena paare ga mujhe jo itna detailed tracking kar sak tha.

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 25 Jun 2013 00:12

^^^Arrey tau ji, yeh sab phunwa se nahin Surface se post kiya ja raha hai thru in-flight internet. Cattle class mein Surface hi usable hai chottay tray table par plus koi security mein nikaalne ka jhanjhat nahin.

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 25 Jun 2013 01:06

Raja Bose wrote:^^^Arrey tau ji, yeh sab phunwa se nahin Surface se post kiya ja raha hai thru in-flight internet. Cattle class mein Surface hi usable hai chottay tray table par plus koi security mein nikaalne ka jhanjhat nahin.

Haamare pyaare, aap ki kampany bahadhur hain. Hum jaise chote log ko kampany wale in-flight internet nahi denga. Doosre desh meh jab jao, to wo checking kaarte hain, tablet aur kamputer ek cheez hain security wale ki liya. Khanland wale fruit kampany se paise liya jo checking nahi kaarte.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 25 Jun 2013 02:28

KB allowed me use "Good client" app. First, I saw a review rating of 3.. but I liked the service. All it takes is your KB accepting it. Attending a webex session over smart phone is made simple now. imho, very valuable app.

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 25 Jun 2013 02:42

Mort Walker wrote:
Raja Bose wrote:^^^Arrey tau ji, yeh sab phunwa se nahin Surface se post kiya ja raha hai thru in-flight internet. Cattle class mein Surface hi usable hai chottay tray table par plus koi security mein nikaalne ka jhanjhat nahin.
Haamare pyaare, aap ki kampany bahadhur hain. Hum jaise chote log ko kampany wale in-flight internet nahi denga. Doosre desh meh jab jao, to wo checking kaarte hain, tablet aur kamputer ek cheez hain security wale ki liya. Khanland wale fruit kampany se paise liya jo checking nahi kaarte.

Tau ji, aapko alag se WiFi ki kya zaroorat. Aap to khud hi WiFi-enabled ho

nachiket · Post by **nachiket** » 25 Jun 2013 02:43

Ok, I've never used BB devices so have to ask. What exactly is so special about BB's mail application?

member_23651 · Post by **member_23651** » 25 Jun 2013 04:22

nachiket wrote:Ok, I've never used BB devices so have to ask. What exactly is so special about BB's mail application?

For BB 10, its Hub which I like: All facebook messages, notifications, emails sms, whats app, BBM yahoo etc are shown in one place. And not only that, I can answer them from the same place. No need to open individual apps for that. Its also has individual account tabs for filtering. The whole interface is very gesture based, once when one gets hang of the bb10, one feels frustrated with iphone's button. Emails are bettered rendered, specially if they html based emails, that is what I saw when I compared iphone, android, and bb10 side by side, I found that was the case. Soft keyboard predictive text is good. The suggestions are shown on each softkey as you type along, and you just need to swipe on that soft key. The only thing I dont like is that their blackberry world doesn't have have all the app titles that you get in other devices. They say one can deploy any android app directly on the bb10. I haven't tried myself yet.

member_23651 · Post by **member_23651** » 25 Jun 2013 04:27

Raja Bose wrote:BBM is coming to other platforms - no point in buying BB hardware anymore. People used to buy BB for its excellent KB and well integrated mail and messaging but now with their services becoming cross platform and KB missing, BB has lost the USP of its hardware. Stick to iPhunwa if you are already in that ecosystem.

they have one device q10 with keyboard, but I am not comfortable with full qwerty hard keyboard devices. Never was able to place my fingers on right buttons. I might end up buying both iphone & bb10, and get questioned by dilli customs on landing

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 25 Jun 2013 06:19

what does the customs say about devices?

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 25 Jun 2013 06:32

Samsung has opened a development office in the same town as nokia. Intent is clear.

About the back button, regardless of the lack of sterile uniformity, monkeys and definitely humans should definitely be able to figure out this inconsistency and get used to whatever mutant their phone uses. We primates are good at pattern matching and logos...thats why logos are so heavily used. Didnt get the huge value add of the rant

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 25 Jun 2013 06:37

Singha wrote:Samsung has opened a development office in the same town as nokia. Intent is clear.

ChipZ beat them to it by 2 years

Its an age old tradition - Bibi did the same to Motor Oil.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 25 Jun 2013 06:41

I thought SamZ was after FruitZ.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 25 Jun 2013 07:03

Singha wrote: ... monkeys and definitely humans ...

Harking back to simians of the 'hood (nukkad) trying to reproduce Sheikh Peer or is it GUT?

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 25 Jun 2013 08:27

Raja Bose wrote:Tau ji, aapko alag se WiFi ki kya zaroorat. Aap to khud hi WiFi-enabled ho

Haamare jaise log LoFi hain. Aache hua hum L&M dhaaga se nikal gaye. Woh log tho bilkul HiFi hain jo aslee sandwich baanathe hain! Aur who bhi bibi ki saath double roti.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 25 Jun 2013 08:29

Mort, you have been replaced from L&M with our new hero. He has the vympel power. He has nullified all your missions with just one post.

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 25 Jun 2013 08:34

Mort Walker wrote:
Raja Bose wrote:Tau ji, aapko alag se WiFi ki kya zaroorat. Aap to khud hi WiFi-enabled ho
Haamare jaise log LoFi hain. Aache hua hum L&M dhaaga se nikal gaye. Woh log tho bilkul HiFi hain jo aslee sandwich baanathe hain! Aur who bhi bibi ki saath double roti.

Arrey tau, woh khyali sandwich banana wale kya jaane asli launch ki maya - aapke saamne woh vivash hain! woh HiFi to nahin, magar HiFi mini ho sakte hain, tensilica ke naye core ki tarah - chota mota yahi fashion hai aaj ka

member_23651 · Post by **member_23651** » 25 Jun 2013 09:40

SaiK wrote:what does the customs say about devices?

Limit of 25000rs

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 27 Jun 2013 07:29

this company has come up with a HUD type display for cyclists ....

http://jet.reconinstruments.com/

not the huge EF wide angle hud mind you, more like a google glass.

there are already people who sell helmet mounted cams for cyclists and probably skaters and parkour urban 'warriors' to record their moves.

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 27 Jun 2013 07:40

The Galaxy S4 and HTC One both Google Edition are available on the Play Store, ships on July 9th though. $649 and $599 respectively.

I was going to get one, but bought a CSC instead.

Speaking of EF L lenses:

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 27 Jun 2013 10:00

^^^Mortu tau, kya point-and-shoot hai!

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 27 Jun 2013 10:11

there are certain work items only these B1/B52 can handle.
it strikes me a totally illogical that a guy who can afford or get such lenses would want a dinky body rather than larger, balanced, more ergonomic DSLR body...his lenses are going to occupy bulk of space in the bag not the body big or small.

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 27 Jun 2013 10:46

^^^But point-and-shoot it ain't. Or is it?

For folks who need the capabilities of such kit, nothing else will do of course.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 27 Jun 2013 13:50

http://www.flir.com/cs/apac/en/view/?id=42844

household flir camera with SD card storage sounds like a really cool toy to have around. hopefully it will catch on and prices drop like cellphones.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 27 Jun 2013 17:17

The nexus 7 was kept for overnight charging.. but it still shows at some 25% charge.. any info on these issues as well known? just a month old.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 27 Jun 2013 18:18

My kid complained about it yester-raat. So, asked her to shut off the device and re-charge it. for the past one hour now since I posted the complain here, it has now moved from 25 - 32% charge level.

Let me observe. BTW, it is getting charged by ASUS supplied extension point/adapter. My suspicion is some apps/games was keep consuming the battery up. I will share more info here, as I get more info.

Prasad · Post by **Prasad** » 27 Jun 2013 20:20

I never understood the idea of coupling supertele's with the canon m series. That thing doesn't af anywhere close to whats needed to use those long lenses.

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 27 Jun 2013 21:11

Singha wrote:http://www.flir.com/cs/apac/en/view/?id=42844

household flir camera with SD card storage sounds like a really cool toy to have around. hopefully it will catch on and prices drop like cellphones.

We have a bunch of those at work made by Fluke. One e-steamed friend now in FruitCo took his personal one to a FruitCo store after the new iPad launched and would point it at random iPads on display to show store "geniuses" how crappy the thermal management was.

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 27 Jun 2013 22:31

Prasad wrote:I never understood the idea of coupling supertele's with the canon m series. That thing doesn't af anywhere close to whats needed to use those long lenses.

It is a demonstration to show that Canon's CSC can mount any EF lens. No one in their right mind would do that.

member_20292 · Post by **member_20292** » 27 Jun 2013 23:42

What do people here use for software dev purposes, in terms of hardware? I am in the market for a new laptop; I wanted to buy something for android and dot net development as well, without buying a desktop.

Should I get an i7 QM/MQ , any generation? I currently have a i3 2357ULV which scores a 1700 on cpubenchmark score.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 28 Jun 2013 00:06

Marten, FYI:
1. I updated to droid 4.2.2
2. Also noted charge cable was loose. I had another universal mini USB one, so it is going well with that one.

Hope, it will reach 100% charge level soon. It is at 82% now.

Raja Bose · Post by **Raja Bose** » 28 Jun 2013 12:15

As predicted some moons ago

WSJ: Google working on an Android-powered game system, smart watch and new Nexus Q

Hope they don't just try to make an Android version of a XBox One or PS4....and they reduce the price of the new Nexus Q by actually making sure the value proposition it provides is something a mango customer cares about.