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Neela wrote:From twitter :
Shivagiri Mutt Sanyasins called Modi to save them

Modi is damned if he does, damned if he does not!
This is the correct emphasis, Neela ji. Shows how hindu seers view NM and INC.
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niran wrote:
M Joshi wrote:What re the chances of NAMO contesting for LS from Raibareilly or Amethi?
earlier NaMo was supposed to fight from Sultanpur UP then almost all BJP state units began outdoing eachother for NaMo to contest election in their state, shocking everyone (NaMo included) hence
it is any one guess.
The reason I mentioned those 2 constituencies is that if I were NAMO, I would oust either the queen or the prince before the elections onlee. It would be a good riddance if either one of them are not there in LS. People from these two constituencies must have had enough of the Gandhis for the last 5 decades. It's about time they show middle finger to the dynasty and assure the country of the change as well. If the country needs to uproot dynasty, it has to happen from their roots. And the family's roots are in these constituencies only.
JMT.
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apoorv wrote:Modi’s Himalayan miracle

TOI article saying Modi is feku.
Not all TOI columnists are as infantile as Abhik Barmaid: Rahul & Modi, chalk & cheese during crisis
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M Joshi wrote:
The reason I mentioned those 2 constituencies is that if I were NAMO, I would oust either the queen or the prince before the elections onlee. It would be a good riddance if either one of them are not there in LS. People from these two constituencies must have had enough of the Gandhis for the last 5 decades. It's about time they show middle finger to the dynasty and assure the country of the change as well. If the country needs to uproot dynasty, it has to happen from their roots. And the family's roots are in these constituencies only.
JMT.
Sultanpur shares border with Rai Bareli, Amethi and Azamgarh. Interesting choice.
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News in Samna Newspaper - "digvijay singh's ancestors were informers of british raj" :

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater
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found this link from article in arjun's post. this has more details.

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/how-n ... 130624.htm
He added, “Modi’s critics don’t appreciate that everyone woke up only two days after, but we got the advantage because we anticipated the calamity as soon as the news of cloud burst was reported. Also, I can say with authority that the Gujarat government has done everything with the help of the Uttarakhand government and through the state machinery of Uttarakhand. We refuse to criticise the state government."

He said the actual figures of evacuation of pilgrims by the Gujarat government under the leadership of Modi will never be known because the chartered Boeing planes made five trips to Gujarat from Dehradun, there were hundreds of other cars, buses and trucks engaged by the government.

It’s impossible to count the exact number of pilgrims because, “We had firmly decided that at no point of time pilgrims should crowd the base camp in Haridwar, Dehradun or New Delhi. In case of an emergency, a large congregation can create other issues. Our aim was to rescue the pilgrims, give them food and some counseling and arrange for their transport and move them out of the affected zone.”

Of course, all those helped by the Gujarat government were not Gujaratis, he says.

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“Until June 20, we were coordinating individual cases, but when Modi went to Uttarakhand, the Bharatiya Janata Party and Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh cadres got galvanised. For the saffron cadre, Modi is next to God. His presence made the difference,” said the officer.

“In his presence they started the rescue work with vigour and helped in locating victims
. They knew the local terrain so they could guide victims to take the shortest route to reach safe places,” he added.
hey i am as cynical as the next person...but i don't doubt people do get motivated like that.

we have all worked under good project managers and bad ones. we are the same person with same skills and attitude/values. but the output is different. under good managers, we tend to put in as much as the top guy puts in. under bad managers, we only do some show and aim to get by with minimal effort.
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Manish_Sharma wrote:News in Samna Newspaper - "digvijay singh's ancestors were informers of british raj" :

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater
Lalit Modi's grandfather, one Todarmal or Gujarmal used to feed British armies. Modi Nagar is named after them. North India's landlords or jagirdars were mostly those in service of British.
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Narendra Modi: Neither secular nor brave
Disaster tourism is not new to Modi. He did much the same during the 26/11 attacks on Bombay. While the commandos were inside the hotels shooting down the militants and attempting to save as many people as possible, Modi arrived at one hotel, hoping to get some mileage by poking his nose into another government's business. No one paid him any attention --he had hoped to milk the tragedy for the New Delhi assembly elections that were taking place the next day. The BJP lost anyway and the Congress returned for a third time. So Tiwari should leave Modi to worry about whether the people will remember his Rambo act in 2014 when it did not matter to voters even a day later in 2008. Tiwari should worry about better things--like Bharat Nirman, for example.
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Manish_Sharma wrote:News in Samna Newspaper - "digvijay singh's ancestors were informers of british raj" :

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater
an entire class of mansabdars, jagirdars and broken down royals became INC leaders post 1947. they had prepared the ground before 1947 for the next phase of their evolution.
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I dont see a single positive statement about yuvraj in any coments section and that too from young india. mostly calling him idiot and what not
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ashashi wrote:Narendra Modi: Neither secular nor brave
Disaster tourism is not new to Modi. He did much the same during the 26/11 attacks on Bombay. While the commandos were inside the hotels shooting down the militants and attempting to save as many people as possible, Modi arrived at one hotel, hoping to get some mileage by poking his nose into another government's business. No one paid him any attention --he had hoped to milk the tragedy for the New Delhi assembly elections that were taking place the next day. The BJP lost anyway and the Congress returned for a third time. So Tiwari should leave Modi to worry about whether the people will remember his Rambo act in 2014 when it did not matter to voters even a day later in 2008. Tiwari should worry about better things--like Bharat Nirman, for example.
Is this true? Can anyone confirm? I don't remember anything like this.
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He did, and also gave the maha govt few millions to be distributed to the affected
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Srinu Boddeda modi ji hamara andhra netha log ko sudaro
a comment from NaMo's FB page
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His official website is really well laid out and maintained
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Firstpost: Rajnath Singh directs state units to not flag off relief material

In a clear dig at Sonia Gandhi and Rahul Gandhi‘s flagging off of relief convoy trucks yesterday, Rajnath Singh has tweeted that the BJP has directed all state units not to flag off relief material as it “hurts human sensibilities”. He also tweeted that the BJP today dispatched eight truckloads of relief material and Rs56,06,994 as a symbolic gesture.

The BJP today dispatched 8 truckload of relief material and Rs 56,06,994 in cash as symbolic gesture from Lucknow to Uttarakhand.

— Rajnath Singh (@BJPRajnathSingh) June 26, 2013

The BJP has also directed all state units not to flag off relief material as it hurts the human sensibilities.

— Rajnath Singh (@BJPRajnathSingh) June 26, 2013
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There is a rumour going on that trucks flagged by SG are not going to reach the affected areas, as drivers are angry due to some ill treatment. Does anybody have any confirmation regarding it? Or if you come across, please share it here.
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Good article over at Offstumped's blog...The Congress seems to have exhausted all names to throw at Modi within a few weeks !! : Congress-Media Complex suffers Modi Schizophrenia ?
4th June – “Pizza without Toppings” - Maharashtra Congress spokesman Anant Gadgil

7th June – “an ‘inflated balloon’ that would ‘burst’ soon” - Sharad Pawar, NCP Chief, UPA Minister

8th June – “ruler like Hitler and (Combodian dictator) Pol Pot” - Congress MP Shantaram Naik

8th June – “Modi is not a factor for the Congress party and is only a factor in the media” – Digvijay Singh, Congress General Secretary

8th June – “like a show of monkeys and people come to watch a monkey perform” – Salman Khurshud, Congress MP, UPA Minister

13th June – “Bhasmasur” – Jairam Ramesh, UPA Minister

15th June – “not really my concern” – Rahul Gandhi, Congress Vice President

16th June – “kabadiwaala” – Digvijay Singh, Congress General Secretary

17thJune - “Congress faces no threat from Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi” – Dr. Manmohan Singh, Prime Minister

17th June – “Modi’s coming is not a danger to us” – Ghulam Nabi Azad, UPA Minister

17th June – “Namo just a Promo“, BK Hariprasad, Raj Babbar, Shakeel Ahmed – all Congress Office Bearers

20th June – “has a Communal Face” – Chandrabhan, Congress State President Rajasthan

21st June – “FailureModi” – Ajay Maken, former UPA Minister, Congress General Secretary

22nd June – “Batman” – IANS

22nd June – “Enemy of Minorities” – Sukhpal Singh Kehra, Punjab Congress Spokesperson

23rd June – “Wants to become Rambo” – Manish Tewari, Congress MP, UPA Minister

24th June – “Is an Undertaker, will bury BJP 8 feet deep” - Francisco Sardinha, Congress MP from Goa

24th June – “Symbol of Fundamentalism” - Punjab Pradesh Congress Committee member Raman Bahl

25th June – “Superman or Rambo or Ravan” – Satyavrat Chaturvedi, Congress Leader

25th June – “Feku at work again” – Digvijay Singh, Congress General Secretary

25th June – “Feku Mahaashay - a Liar” – Digvijay Singh, Congress Secretary

25th June – “ being Rambo does not need much brain” – Renuka Chowdhury, Congress Spokesperson

26th June – “Feku“, “Rambo“, “Scambo” and APCO” – Assorted Congress friendly media outlets and one Congress dependent Son-in-Law
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Manish_Sharma wrote:There is a rumour going on that trucks flagged by SG are not going to reach the affected areas, as drivers are angry due to some ill treatment. Does anybody have any confirmation regarding it? Or if you come across, please share it here.
talk about shunning publicity by the congis--
many trucks have congis pictures of pappu and termite queen.

Also some of the helis are thru jamaai raja front company-- charging 1-2 lakhs for transporting dead and injured.
Due to some criticism - I believe the govt will take the tab-- money goes to the termite queen all the same.
sick mentality :(
Hope the aam aadmi common man does fall for the trap.

I cant use aam aadmi anymore :evil:
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per twitter-
About AAP, they mentioned on tv that they were not going to UK as it is a waste of time. :eek:
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Manish_Sharma wrote:There is a rumour going on that trucks flagged by SG are not going to reach the affected areas, as drivers are angry due to some ill treatment. Does anybody have any confirmation regarding it? Or if you come across, please share it here.
Although unexpected, here's the NDTV source:
(Posting in full as it may be pulled down later)
After grand photo-op, Congress trucks for Uttarakhand stall
Rishikesh: On Monday morning, in a well-orchestrated photo-op, Congress President Sonia Gandhi flagged off over 100 trucks loaded with food supplies, medicines and other materials meant for Uttarakhand, where thousands of people were stranded in flash floods.

Three days later, the trucks are parked at Rishikesh in Uttarakhand. They remain fully loaded.

Congress leaders admitted they had no idea of where the trucks were. "I don't have any information but I know there are youth Congress members in Rudraprayag. Thanks for this information, I am not coordinating but will pass this on to those members," said party spokesperson Sandeep Dikshit.

The drivers allegedly said that after reaching the state capital of Dehradun, they were asked to drive higher in the mountains to an area named Srinagar.

But they are stranded en route with fuel running out. The drivers say nobody from the party or the government has contacted them with either assistance or directions. They claim they have no money to pay for meals and will be forced to start selling the items in their cargo soon.

The enormity of both the disaster and the military's rescue operation in Uttarakhand has not inhibited parties from searching for political advantage.

The trucks were sent by the Congress after a newspaper report said BJP leader Narendra Modi had pulled "a Rambo act" by flying into Uttarakhand with bureaucrats and evacuating 15,000 tourists from Gujarat, a report the BJP has dismissed as exaggerated.

Mr Gandhi arrived in Uttarakhand on Monday even as Home Minister Sushil Kumar Shinde said that visits by VVIPs distract attention from rescue operations. The Congress has said that Mr Gandhi is present "as a citizen" and is not using state resources to travel to different parts of Uttarakhand.
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Singha wrote:
Manish_Sharma wrote:News in Samna Newspaper - "digvijay singh's ancestors were informers of british raj" :

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater
an entire class of mansabdars, jagirdars and broken down royals became INC leaders post 1947. they had prepared the ground before 1947 for the next phase of their evolution.

The co-option started just before the 1952 elections and by 1956 it was complete.
Those who didn't get in created the Swatantra Party which got decimated in 1971 elections.
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Modi's blog on TOI !! Remembering Emergency 1975 - The victory of people's power!
It was on this day, 38 years ago that the Indian republic faced one of its toughest test in recent history. At midnight on June 25, 1975 the Emergency was imposed thus beginning one of India’s darkest periods when a political class full of arrogance and intoxicated with power preferred to destroy the nation’s democratic fabric rather than resign when their continuing in office became untenable.

Personally, I have several memories associated with the Emergency. At that time I was a 25-year-old youngster who had recently started working for the RSS but what I witnessed during those dark days remains forever engraved in my memory. Who can forget the manner in which personal freedom was brutally trampled over? Who can forget the blatant misuse of MISA to target political opponents? Can one forget the lockouts on media houses? How can we not remember the determined struggle of lakhs of people across the nation for 19 long months? Overcoming grave personal risk, so many people devoted themselves to the restoration of democracy.
When I look back at the Emergency, I cannot but salute the far sightedness of the people of India who rejected authoritarian politics in the very first opportunity in 1977. This despite a heavily censored, biased and one sided print media and radio. Electronic media was in its pre-infant stages and there was no social media. Infact, I wonder if there was social media during that time, would the Prime Minister have imposed the Emergency at all? Or would it even have lasted for the while it did?

I am sharing my book ‘Aapatkal Me Gujarat’ in which I have shared in detail my memories of the Emergency. I would like to draw your attention to Page 200 in my book where I wrote this on how different political organizations came together developing a better understanding of each other:

“The gap between different political organizations largely had to do with intentional and accidental differences resulting from rejection of each other’s causes. The mindset of “if you are not with us, you are against us” had also contributed to this gap. But events had created an opportunity for every one of these Organizations to rise above their political differences and to develop a deeper understanding of each other.”

Many of my young friends would not have been born during those days. I specially urge them to have a look at the book to get a broader understanding of the historical context and what is now remembered as a great victory of people’s power.
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One thing during Emergency was ABV, LKA, and others were in the same prison. And their daily meetings for exercise lead to the post Emergency creation of Janata Party.

Told to me by one of the others.
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As I said earlier, this was a classic right-wing party of India. BJP as left wing and this as right wing will mark the golden age of India. Of course as rudradev acharya pointed out that these terms of left and right do not apply in India. But still bhaavnao ko samjho.. :)


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The 21 Principles of the Swatantra Party (1959)
1. The Swatantra party is pledged to social justice and equality of opportunity for all people without distinction of religion, caste, occupation or political affiliation.

2. The party holds that progress, welfare and happiness of the people depend on individual initiative, enterprise and energy. The party stands for the principle of maximum freedom for the individual and minimum interference by the state consistent with the obligation to prevent and punish anti-social activities, to protect the weaker elements of society, and to create the conditions in which individual initiative will thrive and be fruitful. The party is, therefore opposed to increasing state interference of the kind now being pursued.

3. The party holds that the state would foster and utilities the sense of moral obligation, the pride, satisfaction, and fulfillment felt by individual in serving others which are inherent in our tradition, instead of adopting legislative or other forms of compulsion which commence with want of faith in the people and are consummated in the serfdom of the governed under the official machine, in an omnipotent state controlled by a political party voted to power. The party, therefore, adheres to the principle of trusteeship adumbrated by Gandhiji.

4. The Party holds that the policies of government should be founded on faith in the people and not on state compulsion and the encouragement of hatred and conflict between class and class, expropriation, repudiation of obligations and the conferment of more and more powers on the officials of government at the expense of the freedom of the citizens.

5. The party stands for every effort being made to foster and maintain spiritual values and preserve what is good in our culture and tradition, and avoid the dominance of a purely materialist philosophy of life which things only in terms of the standard of life without any reference to its content or quality.

6. The party holds that steps should be taken to remove the pervading sense of uncertainty that has been created by the present policies of the government and its varying forecasts of future plans, leading to the drying up of initiative and enterprise in land, shop and factory alike. The party holds that a sense of stability and incentive for individual effort can be restored only by strict adherence to the fundamental rights and guarantee specified in the Constitution as originally adopted in respect of freedom of property, trade and occupation and just compensation for any property compulsory acquired by the state for public purposes.

7. The party holds that in the policies adopted for national development, priority must be assigned to the basic needs of the people, namely, food, water, housing and clothing.

8. The party believes that every citizen has a fundamental right to educate his children according to his choice and in a free atmosphere untrammelled by official directives and that the state should afford facilities for such education without discrimination.

9. The party holds that the paramount need is for increasing food production and that this is best attainted through the self-employed peasant proprietor who is interested in obtaining the highest yield from his land. The party believes in an intensive program of agricultural improvement by promoting the material and psychological inducements for greater production without disturbing the harmony of rural life. The party holds that there should be no disturbance of ownership, management and cultivation of land, but believe in a more effective programme than is being followed at present in respect of irrigation and the supply of material, implements, credit and marketing facilities.
The party believes in the need for giving every kind of help to agriculture but is opposed to cultivation through organizations which reduce price ownership to an empty paper-title and which bring into being a loose kind of multiple ownership which is certain to sap the incentive of the farmer and his family, reduce output, and take us to a collective economy with official management. It is firmly opposed to collectivization and bureaucratic management of the rural economy.
The Party takes note of the dissatisfaction amongst the rural population that adequate attention has not been paid to their needs. It holds that the level of life of the rural prople should be improved by removing all such impediments as are likely to stand in the way of their attaining a high standard of life and by taking all steps necessary for the purpose in particular for maintaining a reasonable and steady price for agricultural produce, which is parity with other prices.

10. In industry, the party believes in the incentives for higher production and expansion inherent in competitive enterprise with adequate safeguards for the protection of labour and against unreasonable profits, prices or where competition does not secure the necessary corrective. The party stands for the restriction of state enterprise to heavy industries such as are necessary to supplement private enterprise in that field, such national services as Railways and the starting of new enterprises which are difficult for private initiative.
The party is opposed to the state entering the field of trade and disturbing free distribution and introducing controls and official management with all its wastefulness and inefficiency.
The party believes that in the field of production, the free choice of the producer and the consumer must be given basic place and importance.

11. The party stands for the preservation of the freedom of the small and self-employed artisans, craftsmen and traders who are in danger of losing their occupational opportunities by reason of the policy of statism. These persons perform a great, widespread and inexpensive function in our society, and their gradual extinction will be a national misfortune and add to our unemployment problem.

12. The party stands for great thrift in public expenditure. It holds that taxation should be kept at such levels as will not interfere with reasonable living standard for the people, both rural and urban, and which while being necessary and sufficient for the carrying on of administration and such social and economic services as are taken up by the state, is yet not so high and exacting or so ubiquitous as to prevent capital formation and private investment.

13. The party is opposed to a programme of development based on crippling taxation, abnormal deficit financing and foreign loans which are beyond the capacity of the country to repay.

14. The party is opposed to all policies that lead to excessive inflation, high prices that reduce the value of savings, endowments and fixed incomes, and which create undue hardships for the present generation in the hope of a distant gain.

15. The party believes that the cost of public administration should be reduced considerably. It stands for integrity and efficiency in the services. It is against the expansion of the bureaucratic machine, with a hierarchy of officials asked to do work which is best done by citizens and private agencies, resulting in unproductive waste of national resources.

16. The party believes that the state will best serve the nation by encouraging and affording facilities for a decentralised distribution of industry and by limiting its own regulatory function to the prevention and punishment of anti-social activities wherever called for.

17. The party stands for the creation of opportunities for full and lasting employment in all sectors of life. It stands for a programme of all-round industrialization with a view to developing national resources and reducing unemployment. It believes in a balanced development of capital goods, industries, organized consumer goods industries and rural industries that afford supplementary employment in small scale processing of the products of agriculture.

18. The party stands for a fair deal for labour, whether in the field, factory or office and for correlating to wages, increased productivity and for workers' right to organize for the purpose of collective bargaining. It stands for harmonizing the interests of capital and labour when they get into conflict.

19. The party is opposed to any form of pressure being put on officials to deflect them from the course of fair and just discharge of duties without discrimination. It stands for the rule of law, an independent judiciary, and for the full play of powers of judicial review given to the courts by the Constitution.

20. The party shall in all matters keep before itself the cardinal teaching of Gandhiji, maintaining faith in the people and in the efficacy of truth non-violence.

21. The Swatantra party holds that democracy is best served if every political party allows freedom of opinion to its members on all matters outside the fundamental principles of the party. It, therefore, gives its members full liberty on all questions not falling within the scope of the principles stated above.
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Manish_Sharma wrote:There is a rumour going on that trucks flagged by SG are not going to reach the affected areas, as drivers are angry due to some ill treatment. Does anybody have any confirmation regarding it? Or if you come across, please share it here.
There was an interview by NDTV :shock: with drivers who said that their owners had filled the vehicles with on INR 2,000 worth of diesel and now they are almost out of it. They don't know what to do and who to contact - if they don't receive any directions, they'll sell of the material to pay for diesel and head back home.
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Atri wrote:As I said earlier, this was a classic right-wing party of India. BJP as left wing and this as right wing will mark the golden age of India. Of course as rudradev acharya pointed out that these terms of left and right do not apply in India. But still bhaavnao ko samjho.. :)


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The 21 Principles of the Swatantra Party (1959)
1. The Swatantra party is pledged to social justice and equality of opportunity for all people without distinction of religion, caste, occupation or political affiliation.

2. The party holds that progress, welfare and happiness of the people depend on individual initiative, enterprise and energy. The party stands for the principle of maximum freedom for the individual and minimum interference by the state consistent with the obligation to prevent and punish anti-social activities, to protect the weaker elements of society, and to create the conditions in which individual initiative will thrive and be fruitful. The party is, therefore opposed to increasing state interference of the kind now being pursued.

3. The party holds that the state would foster and utilities the sense of moral obligation, the pride, satisfaction, and fulfillment felt by individual in serving others which are inherent in our tradition, instead of adopting legislative or other forms of compulsion which commence with want of faith in the people and are consummated in the serfdom of the governed under the official machine, in an omnipotent state controlled by a political party voted to power. The party, therefore, adheres to the principle of trusteeship adumbrated by Gandhiji.

4. The Party holds that the policies of government should be founded on faith in the people and not on state compulsion and the encouragement of hatred and conflict between class and class, expropriation, repudiation of obligations and the conferment of more and more powers on the officials of government at the expense of the freedom of the citizens.

5. The party stands for every effort being made to foster and maintain spiritual values and preserve what is good in our culture and tradition, and avoid the dominance of a purely materialist philosophy of life which things only in terms of the standard of life without any reference to its content or quality.

6. The party holds that steps should be taken to remove the pervading sense of uncertainty that has been created by the present policies of the government and its varying forecasts of future plans, leading to the drying up of initiative and enterprise in land, shop and factory alike. The party holds that a sense of stability and incentive for individual effort can be restored only by strict adherence to the fundamental rights and guarantee specified in the Constitution as originally adopted in respect of freedom of property, trade and occupation and just compensation for any property compulsory acquired by the state for public purposes.

7. The party holds that in the policies adopted for national development, priority must be assigned to the basic needs of the people, namely, food, water, housing and clothing.

8. The party believes that every citizen has a fundamental right to educate his children according to his choice and in a free atmosphere untrammelled by official directives and that the state should afford facilities for such education without discrimination.

9. The party holds that the paramount need is for increasing food production and that this is best attainted through the self-employed peasant proprietor who is interested in obtaining the highest yield from his land. The party believes in an intensive program of agricultural improvement by promoting the material and psychological inducements for greater production without disturbing the harmony of rural life. The party holds that there should be no disturbance of ownership, management and cultivation of land, but believe in a more effective programme than is being followed at present in respect of irrigation and the supply of material, implements, credit and marketing facilities.
The party believes in the need for giving every kind of help to agriculture but is opposed to cultivation through organizations which reduce price ownership to an empty paper-title and which bring into being a loose kind of multiple ownership which is certain to sap the incentive of the farmer and his family, reduce output, and take us to a collective economy with official management. It is firmly opposed to collectivization and bureaucratic management of the rural economy.
The Party takes note of the dissatisfaction amongst the rural population that adequate attention has not been paid to their needs. It holds that the level of life of the rural prople should be improved by removing all such impediments as are likely to stand in the way of their attaining a high standard of life and by taking all steps necessary for the purpose in particular for maintaining a reasonable and steady price for agricultural produce, which is parity with other prices.

10. In industry, the party believes in the incentives for higher production and expansion inherent in competitive enterprise with adequate safeguards for the protection of labour and against unreasonable profits, prices or where competition does not secure the necessary corrective. The party stands for the restriction of state enterprise to heavy industries such as are necessary to supplement private enterprise in that field, such national services as Railways and the starting of new enterprises which are difficult for private initiative.
The party is opposed to the state entering the field of trade and disturbing free distribution and introducing controls and official management with all its wastefulness and inefficiency.
The party believes that in the field of production, the free choice of the producer and the consumer must be given basic place and importance.

11. The party stands for the preservation of the freedom of the small and self-employed artisans, craftsmen and traders who are in danger of losing their occupational opportunities by reason of the policy of statism. These persons perform a great, widespread and inexpensive function in our society, and their gradual extinction will be a national misfortune and add to our unemployment problem.

12. The party stands for great thrift in public expenditure. It holds that taxation should be kept at such levels as will not interfere with reasonable living standard for the people, both rural and urban, and which while being necessary and sufficient for the carrying on of administration and such social and economic services as are taken up by the state, is yet not so high and exacting or so ubiquitous as to prevent capital formation and private investment.

13. The party is opposed to a programme of development based on crippling taxation, abnormal deficit financing and foreign loans which are beyond the capacity of the country to repay.

14. The party is opposed to all policies that lead to excessive inflation, high prices that reduce the value of savings, endowments and fixed incomes, and which create undue hardships for the present generation in the hope of a distant gain.

15. The party believes that the cost of public administration should be reduced considerably. It stands for integrity and efficiency in the services. It is against the expansion of the bureaucratic machine, with a hierarchy of officials asked to do work which is best done by citizens and private agencies, resulting in unproductive waste of national resources.

16. The party believes that the state will best serve the nation by encouraging and affording facilities for a decentralised distribution of industry and by limiting its own regulatory function to the prevention and punishment of anti-social activities wherever called for.

17. The party stands for the creation of opportunities for full and lasting employment in all sectors of life. It stands for a programme of all-round industrialization with a view to developing national resources and reducing unemployment. It believes in a balanced development of capital goods, industries, organized consumer goods industries and rural industries that afford supplementary employment in small scale processing of the products of agriculture.

18. The party stands for a fair deal for labour, whether in the field, factory or office and for correlating to wages, increased productivity and for workers' right to organize for the purpose of collective bargaining. It stands for harmonizing the interests of capital and labour when they get into conflict.

19. The party is opposed to any form of pressure being put on officials to deflect them from the course of fair and just discharge of duties without discrimination. It stands for the rule of law, an independent judiciary, and for the full play of powers of judicial review given to the courts by the Constitution.

20. The party shall in all matters keep before itself the cardinal teaching of Gandhiji, maintaining faith in the people and in the efficacy of truth non-violence.

21. The Swatantra party holds that democracy is best served if every political party allows freedom of opinion to its members on all matters outside the fundamental principles of the party. It, therefore, gives its members full liberty on all questions not falling within the scope of the principles stated above.
What is the difference between this manifesto and Modi's vision for India?
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Gujarat govt center in Uttarakhand not only for Gujarat people:Narendra Modi

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I saw this video earlier. I have also heard from the ground about the great service done by Gayathri Parivaar all over india and in Uttarakhand. I encourage folks on this forum to donate to Gayathri Parivaar if possible.
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ashashi wrote:Narendra Modi: Neither secular nor brave
Disaster tourism is not new to Modi. He did much the same during the 26/11 attacks on Bombay. While the commandos were inside the hotels shooting down the militants and attempting to save as many people as possible, Modi arrived at one hotel, hoping to get some mileage by poking his nose into another government's business. No one paid him any attention --he had hoped to milk the tragedy for the New Delhi assembly elections that were taking place the next day. The BJP lost anyway and the Congress returned for a third time. So Tiwari should leave Modi to worry about whether the people will remember his Rambo act in 2014 when it did not matter to voters even a day later in 2008. Tiwari should worry about better things--like Bharat Nirman, for example.
More innuendo from a newspaper which prostrated during Emergency. You can always request the Govt. of Guj. for Modi's public meetings on those days. Unlike SG, it is not hidden.

The news you follow is important, since you want to believe in your own stated opinion and would like to find proof that buttresses your opinion. More importantly, why the above opinion is expressed now? What is going on in U'khand is massive mis-governance and mal-administration and all the above editorial does is raise more muck.
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He is not. Satisfied?

On internet you will see somebody waving BJP flag in front of truck., some people identified that as Vijay Goel. Maybe, VG was indeed flagging it off or was just holding BJP flag.

A rule of thumb, never believe what you see, believe only half of what you hear. Use your own judgement, but apply equanimity. It is a tall order and I myself am learning., but first thing is to clear yourself of all biases (except when it comes to bakis, then you must be biased for your own good).
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There is a saying in Hindi Bhains ke age bin nahi bajate.
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disha wrote:
He is not. Satisfied?

On internet you will see somebody waving BJP flag in front of truck., some people identified that as Vijay Goel. Maybe, VG was indeed flagging it off or was just holding BJP flag.

A rule of thumb, never believe what you see, believe only half of what you hear. Use your own judgement, but apply equanimity. It is a tall order and I myself am learning., but first thing is to clear yourself of all biases (except when it comes to bakis, then you must be biased for your own good).
No, I am not satisfied.

That is a legitimate news article put out by BJP. UP State unit of BJP planned it event out and secured Rajnath's commitment to flat off the event. Neither UP Unit nor Rajnath had sense to gauge the public sentiment of such photo ops after Sonia's debacle.

The fact that they cancelled the event in the 11th hour is no reason for us to be happy with whole episode.
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disha wrote: The news you follow is important, since you want to believe in your own stated opinion and would like to find proof that buttresses your opinion.
You are drawing too many conclusions. I did not comment on the article because I thought the article is self explanatory. I can see how that could lead someone to conclude that I am endorsing the content of the link. May be I should add the smilies in indicate my opinion in the future.
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Ishrat Jahan case: IB man to be arrested soon?

AHMEDABAD: The Prime Minister's Office has cleared the decks for the arrest of a senior Intelligence Bureau officer in a case which had brought the intelligence set-up in direct confrontation with CBI.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 789195.cms
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Good analysis of Bihar and UP eventhough the article completely ignores the development politics of Modi. Posting in full.

dna special: Narendra Modi is an OBC' campaign picks up in Bihar, but lacks steam in neighbouring UP
Thanks to an adamant JD(U) boss, Nitish Kumar, the “Narenda Modi-is-an-OBC” campaign has fired the imagination of the backward classes in Bihar but the same is not true in UP where the BJP is a divided house and a few in the think tank prefer further polarisation of the unified Hindu vote.

In Bihar, Kumar’s theatrical walk-out from the NDA has brought the BJP together on the same platform, irrespective of factions, and former deputy chief minister Sushil Modi has helped spread the word that Nitish is out to snatch the prime ministerial chair from the son of a backward chaiwallah.

In fact, so much fear has been instilled in the minds of the Opposition that even a known Modi-baiter like Ramvilas Paswan told dna, “The OBC card is being played cleverly in Bihar and is likely to bring Modi handsome dividends.” Paswan believes that this campaign may well fuel a surge in favour of the Gujarat CM and Nitish Kumar may be reduced to a bit player in Bihar’s triangular contest where the main fight will be between Modi’s BJP and the Lalu-Paswan combine.

Every BJP leader — from Patna-based CP Thakur to Central-level Bihar leaders like Rajiv Pratap Rudy and Ravi Shankar Prasad — shares the optimism that the injection of “Namonia” has brought into Bihar’s political landscape. Prasad said, “This positive mood is infectious. There is already enthusiasm among the backwards that they would be voting for a prime minister who has humble origins.”

According to Prasad, if you add this non-Yadav, non-Kurmi vote to the upper caste vote, which comes naturally to the BJP, the result will be phenomenal.

Bihar BJP leaders say they will be able to wean away the extremely backward castes, which apparently voted for Nitish after his interesting social engineering experiment.

Such enthusiasm over Modi is somewhat missing in possibly even more politically significant state of UP. The state may have become the crucial responsibility of Modi loyalist Amit Shah, but overt factionalism is not making the going easy for the Gujarat strongman. Shah has so far organised just one major meeting of “karyakartas” (functionaries) in which some important leaders like Kalyan Singh and Vinay Katyar were present.

It seems Amit Shah alone will not suffice. Modi may plan his first visit to Bihar not before October but he can’t let the situation drift in UP. He needs to get the Brahmins (veterans like Lalji Tandon and Kalraj Mishra) or Thakurs (party president Rajnath Singh is himself a Thakur from UP) on board and have a frank discussion with them if they have any problem with him courting the OBCs.

Modi comes from the Ghanchi caste, which is a Gujarati caste equivalent of Teli in UP and Bihar. Such a surname is likely to be a hit even with the vast segments of the non-Yadav OBCs in various parts of the country’s most populous state.
The BJP strategy is that Modi himself won’t propagate his own background.
Lower-level functionaries will spread this crucial information during the campaign trail.

Amit Shah himself has been doing a tightrope walk. He will leave it to others to bring up Modi’s OBC background in popular discourse. There is a belief among a strong section of the UP unit of the BJP that it is more important to pursue a unified Hindutva line in the state. After all, it was the all-pervasive Hindutva approach which had got the party undivided Hindu votes and 58 seats in 1998 election. Since then, the BJP has been on a downhill journey in UP.
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Preparing for post 2014
CBI to become autonomous?


Read more at: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/video/cbi- ... 85461.html
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ashashi wrote:Good analysis of Bihar and UP eventhough the article completely ignores the development politics of Modi. Posting in full.

Thakurs (party president Rajnath Singh is himself a Thakur from UP)
correction Saar, Rajnath Singh is Bhumihaar i.e. lesser Thakur (the most PC word i can come up with)
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niran wrote:
ashashi wrote:Good analysis of Bihar and UP eventhough the article completely ignores the development politics of Modi. Posting in full.

Thakurs (party president Rajnath Singh is himself a Thakur from UP)
correction Saar, Rajnath Singh is Bhumihaar i.e. lesser Thakur (the most PC word i can come up with)
Where did you get that ? As they say in local UP lingo "24 carat ka Thakur hai".
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