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Atri wrote:. BJP should focus on winni g gram panchayats in its core regions.
True for Bihar too. That explains the aggression of BJP in Bihar.

Mostly upper caste old power holders in the Bihar region are now with BJP, and with BJPs help have been able to regain power they lost in Laloo era.
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Atri wrote: If it happenes prior to 2014 elections excellent I say. I am only sleptical of that happening in mext 7 months because this particularly good monsoon. It will bring about relief to people. Had this been a december, I would have hoped that what I think would happen in 2016-17 would happen in this election.
Atri ji,

The economy of India is in effect the spin off of the American economy. The model is really an American Business Model.It has not real connection with Bharat. The current paradigm belongs to India. This India has no say in the global economic movements. However, I digress.

The monsoon may be great and the crops may grow well and all that but in the need to survive in office, Congress will debauch the currency. They will hand over an economy which has no chance of recovery. Except a new start nothing will work.

So I agree with your thesis that NM has to be protected and I think the people in India will do just that. Why? BECAUSE they deserve it. Voting for jati interests over the interests of desh has to go.

You will get what you want that is just my opinion.

Another factor to take into account is some people will not vote for BJP. End of. They do not care if its Modi or anybody else at the helm. What is pivotal is to bring in a system to make voting complulsory. Perhaps only then things will truly change. To bring about such measures, you need absolute majority. Absolute majority for BJP can never materialise (being realistic) unless a mass of people vote for them. I doubt the worsening living conditions matter for most Indians. They can still and are still looking to west to escape the poverty trap. Thats what Congress wants and have successfully accomplished in the past 60 years.

Unless people do not see what they are missing, they wont appreciate how bad the current situation is.

Just like scientists keep saying show us the evidence, the reply for such people is science can only explain what our collective mind has understood.

The difference between the situation in India and many under developed places in the world is, we have a person who can possibly change the equation and bring about positive change.

'Democracy' should/must give way to 'Passive Autocracy'.
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Efforts to bring Yeddyurappa back to BJP gains pace
Several BJP leaders, led by former chief minister D V Sadananda Gowda, on Thursday met state unit president Prahalad Joshi to discuss the homecoming of Yeddyurappa, heading the fledgling Karnataka Janatha Paksha.

Former ministers Aravind Limbavali, Umesh Katti and Basavaraj Bommai have presented their views to Joshi regarding this, party sources said.
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Atri wrote:Yesthisis ideal scenario. You assuming that BJP will come back to power in 2019 elections inherently carries a rider that ppl accept that he will have to take very tough steps.

1. Article370 has to go.
2. NREGA has to go
3. POTA has to come
4. Food security bill has to be stopped.
5. Cleansing and subsequent autonomous character of CBI granted. Subsequent cleansing of c-system.
6. UCC
7. Federalization of Indian power.

All these mesures will be causing some deal of resentment. Couple that with global economic crisis and increased terrorism. The public has to be mobilized and convinced enough to stay with BJP in spite of certain trmporary inconveniences. For that I feel public needs to be tremendously pissed. And public is not pissed enough. If it happenes prior to 2014 elections excellent I say. I am only sleptical of that happening in mext 7 months because this particularly good monsoon. It will bring about relief to people. Had this been a december, I would have hoped that what I think would happen in 2016-17 would happen in this election.

I think apart from all these, to put it straight, modi has to deport that family once and for ever. There are enough cases in which they can be screwed and her citizenship can be cancelled. He needs to do that same with Mulayam and Ilk. This is both beneficial for the country and politically rewarding for the BJP.
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No. They should be free to stay or leave. No need to make martyrs and outside rallying points.
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Singha wrote: but the 'key' to their power has to be found and burnt in the flames of mount doom.
Totally agree. However this task will require more than a couple of Hobbits.
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ramana wrote:No. They should be free to stay or leave. No need to make martyrs and outside rallying points.
The goal is to once and for all destroy the congress party. Without rooting that family out, it is very tough. As long as they are in India, there will be outside forces do some nonsense. I understand that outside forces can use others too, but kicking out the current establishment beyond recovery is a must
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Think again. If they are outside they will be a rallying force for subversion.
Better to not go after them but let the law take its course. And clean up the rest while keeping these around.
No stupid Shah Commission which allowed snakes like Navin Chawala scot free to become respected citizens and later fix the system for INC. Every rascal is a veteran of the 1975 Emergency.
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ramana wrote:No. They should be free to stay or leave. No need to make martyrs and outside rallying points.
I agree.. Make the systemic changes and then wait and watch... :) No need to repeat the blunder of 1977 where Indira was hounded and made a heroine.

NM genuinely is the PIF face. Whatever that is Uttama, Udaatta, Unnata and Maha-Madhura in Dharma is behind him, looking at him with expectations.
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Fantastic madhu kishwar interview..Must watch for everyone here..

Part -1


Part -2
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D Raja and KaniMozhi re-elected to Rajya Sabha

Has an analysis of TN politics and futre themes.
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Singha wrote:the republicans had setup the same trap for Obama, but their candidates were so uninspiring it imploded. not so in india - the one thing constant with death and taxes is another member of the dynasty in spotless white kurta waiting to pounce on the throne.

dynasty wants people of any capability to leave the country, get out , the whole country be a vast dark slum (like mordor), with the biggest slum lord mafia being the orcs and uruk-hai enforcers (local leaders) all paying tribute and being scanned by the "high command" eye of sauron in the dark tower.

this horde will not just have to be routed in open battle like the good king theoden did infront of minas tirith (lost his life though) but the 'key' to their power has to be found and burnt in the flames of mount doom. the orcs will have to disband and chased out of the realm totally.

a tall order.

"form ranks, you maggots! investigative agencies in front, MSM in the back"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdnqZcmWk8U

the forces are on the march, to kurukshetra for the deciding battle!

Under Islamic, British and even Congress rule the strength of the Indian people always was a potential which was kept massively suppressed physically during the first two phases and subtly later. The goal of the freedom and formation of the nation-state is to move from potential to realization of this strength.

Truly "Uthista Bharata!"
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assam tribune:

Sonowal declines to comment on AGP developments
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GUWAHATI, June 27 – With the Asom Gana Parishad (AGP) facing a major crisis, the president of the Assam State committee of the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) Sarbananda Sonowal said that the party would seriously consider any proposal from any person having contributions towards the social life of Assam expressing desire to join the party.
Sonowal’s statement gained significance in view of the fact that there have been reports of possibility of a few senior members of the AGP leaving the regional force. At the same time, Sonowal said that anyone who wants to join the BJP must accept the ideology, principles and discipline of the party.

Replying to a question on whether any senior leader of the AGP would join the BJP soon, Sonowal said, “ I can only say that certain developments are taking place but a clear picture is yet to emerge.” At the same time, he said that a number of persons would join the BJP on July 3 in presence of BJP president Rajnath Singh. But he refused to disclose whether any AGP leader would join the BJP that day.

Sonowal himself had moved to the BJP from the AGP and when asked to comment on the differences between the two parties, he said that the regional flavour was seen in the BJP as the party is interested in development of Assam. He said that the problem of infiltration of foreigners remains the key issue for the BJP, while, the AGP failed to stick to its commitment on the issue.
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I think there is a desire/urge to become part of the national stream as the times are challenging. I see the same in other regions.
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Just got around to watch part I of Mk's interview above.

One thing that caught me was her position on dowry and how she boycotted weddings where dowry was given (pappu) and how 13 years later she changed her outlook (wise).

She basically tells what I have been telling folks all along. Fix the inheritance rights and the "problem" of dowry will go away. In Indian context dowry is "Stree Dhan"., explained that to TSJones in another thread and he went ballistic that "Stree dhan" was so lucidly defended and the subaltren yindoos have something better than he originally thought.

This is very relevant., since in the above interview MK clearly explains that the anger against Modi is for several boils down to this - how come a subaltren son of the soil out of touch with the sophistique circuit of wheelers and dealers rule over us. All wrongs are projected on to him and also on to BJP (the lal-bus wallah desi types).

So when your friends say that they will vote for dimple cheeked Rahul Gandhi., tell them that in their "sophistication" they are casteists, communalists and racists!
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:ROFL:

Second part is about 50 cr. girl friend.

Next time before people jump on somebody who mentions "50 cr. girl friend"., watch the whole speech.
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Looks like INC wants to stir Telangana again.
Digvijay Singh says: Be ready for big decision on Telangana
The Congress party's incharge of Andhra Pradesh affairs Digvijay Singh on Monday asked the state chief minster and the Pradesh Congress Committee president to prepare the road map for implementing the soon-to-be taken decision on the issue of Telangana statehood.

He said the decision-making process in respect of the long-pending statehood demand had reached the final stages and only two options were being considered by the leadership -- either to retain the united Andhra Pradesh or to create a Telangana state. He termed as rumours the other so-called options like offering a financial package or creation of an enlarged Telangana by adding two districts from the Rayalaseema region as has been reported by some media.


{Center is bankrupt so no financial packages. And dont want to lose Rayalseema by transferring two districts. Most likely in lieu of a financial package the idea was to merge two districts. He is say no way Jose! What all this mean is No to Telangana. No money don't want to extend losses.

Let us see.}


"I am requesting the chief minister, the PCC president and the deputy chief minister to prepare a road map keeping both the options open as to what would be the course of action following the decision," Singh said at a press conference on his first visit to Hyderabad after the Congress high command appointed him as AICC general secretary in-charge of AP affairs replacing Union health minister Gulam Nabi Azad last month.


{So this 'decision' is a party affair? Shouldn't the Home minister be talking to the CM and the Governor?}

Earlier, addressing a meeting of the party office bearers at Gandhi Bhavan, Digvijay Singh reportedly asked the party men to accept and adhere to the party decision irrespective of whichever way it goes. :mrgreen:

Responding to a question on what did he mean about a road map, Singh said a political strategy and an administrative action needs to be put in place ahead of the decision. "I have had the experience myself when Chattishgarh was carved out of Madhya Pradesh. It is not an easy decision and the process is quite intricate. However, a decision will be taken in the best interests of the nation, of the state and of the people," Digvijay Singh said.

On how confident he was about the party machinery and leaders of both the regions backing the likely decision, he said the party in the state will implement the decision in the right spirit. Stating that the party has a political challenge ahead in the 2014 elections, he acknowledged the electoral contribution of AP to the Congress to the extent of saying that the UPA-I was possible only because of the larger mandate given to the party in the 2004 elections.

{Very good reward for getting the turds into power.}


Responding to a question on the process likely to be adopted by the Centre in the event of deciding in favour of the Telangana state, he said while the process had been to refer the issue of statehood to the state legislative Assembly, the outcome, however, would not be binding on the UPA government. :rotfl:

{Now he is backtracking. So INC will announce Telangana subject to vote in AP Assembly. this way they grant T same time dont!}

The Congress party had made an electoral promise for the first time in 2004 stating that it would positively look into the demand for separate statehood following the pre-poll alliance with Telangana Rashtra Samithi (TRS) headed by K Chandrasekhara Rao. "While we had promised to set up a second state reorganisation commission it could not happen," Digvijay admitted.

What followed after the Congress victory in 2004 were a series of flip-flops by the ruling party on the issue with the then chief minister Y S Rajasekhara Reddy strongly opposing any move involving the creation of a new state.

The mother of all the flip-flops came a few months after the demise of YSR in December 2009 when the UPA announced the process for creation of Telangana only to retract few days later under the intense pressure from the united opposition put up by the coastal Andhra leaders by announcing mass resignations against the division of the state.

Digvijay's directive to the party leaders on toeing the party decision was seen as part of an effort by the party high command to ensure that the 2009 experience was not repeated this time around. This was already evident in the statement made by the Union Cabinet Minister Kavuri Sambasiva Rao, who was at the helm of the anti-statehood lobby till recently, that he would accept the party's decision.

{So this guy was bought off already with Cabinet post}
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ramana wrote:Looks like INC wants to stir Telangana again.
Digvijay Singh says: Be ready for big decision on Telangana
It seems decision for division AP is taken.
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James, It could also be a political stunt. They might introduce a resolution in the Assy which might not pass. Its all smoke and mirrors.
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11:02 Mulayam not even fit to sweep PM's residence: Beni Prasad: Union minister Beni Prasad Verma kicked up another controversy on Tuesday with his barbs at friend-turned foe Mulayam Singh Yadav, saying that the SP chief was not even fit to sweep the Prime Minister's residence, drawing instant rebuke from the Congress.

"Yadav wants to become Prime Minister. He should first try to get the job of a sweeper at the residence of the PM," 77-year Verma said at a programme in Uttar Pradesh's Faizabad.

He prefaced his remark by alleging that the SP was a party based on "lies and fraud" and that it will be finished by the Congress. Verma was once a close confidant of the Samajwadi Party supremo, but was gradually sidelined after Amar Singh came into the picture. The Kurmi leader quit the party in 2007 and joined the Congress before 2009 Lok Sabha elections.
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James B wrote:
ramana wrote:Looks like INC wants to stir Telangana again.
Digvijay Singh says: Be ready for big decision on Telangana
It seems decision for division AP is taken.
they too decisions several time over the last 8 years. Especially they have taken several serious decisions since 2009 December. There is a huge population that want to be deliberately get fooled over and again.
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^^^ There is an american word for them - Suckers.
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President Pranab Mukherjee clears ordinance on food security

NEW DELHI: President Pranab Mukherjee on Friday signed the ordinance on food security to give nation's two-thirds population the right to get 5kg of foodgrains every month at highly subsidized rates of Rs 1-3 per kg.

Mukherjee cleared the ordinance, which was received by the President's secretariat last night, ending speculation that he may not be in a rush to give his nod in the wake of strong reservations over its present form expressed by BJP, Left and some other major parties.

The food security programme will be the biggest in the world with the government spending estimated at Rs 125,000 crore annually on supply of about 62 million tonnes of rice, wheat and coarse cereals to 67 per cent of the population.

The Cabinet, which had last month deferred a decision on the issue following differences within, had approved promulgation of an ordinance to implement the Food Security Bill on Wednesday.

The ordinance comes just weeks before the scheduled Monsoon session of Parliament and political parties demanding that the Food Security Bill be debated in both Houses before being passed.

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The ordinance will have to be approved by both the Lok Sabha and the Rajya Sabha within six months of promulgation.

The measure will guarantee 5kg of rice, wheat and coarse cereals per month per person at a fixed price of Rs 3, 2, 1, respectively,

However, about 2.43 crore poorest of the poor families covered under the Antyodaya Anna Yojana (AAY) scheme under public distribution system (PDS) would continue to get 35 kg of foodgrains per family per month but with legal entitlement
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I admit to not having followed the FSB so far. How different is this bill compared to the TN scheme of rice at Rs 1 through ration shops?
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Expanded ration shops.

Earlier population was divided into General and Priority. Priority gets rice, wheat & coarse grain at Rs. 3, Rs. 2 and Rs. 1 a Kg. The general category gets at half price of what the government will pay to the farmers. The rest of the cost to be borne by the Indian population.

Now there is no priority or general category. Everybody (atleast 67%., though by some accounts 81%) will be in "priority" category., that is "free for all (or most)".

Everybody with a ration card will get 5Kg of food grains per month per person., that is for a family of 4 in priority., they can avail say 10 kgs of rice and 10 kgs of wheat for Rs. 50 a month. The upper limit I think is 35 Kgs per month. On paper excellent - but where is toor dal, chana dal, udad dal, bajra, jowar, moong etc? What about vegetables? What about fruits? Milk and Egg? What about Oil? Dalda? What about everything else that goes into cooking - turmeric, cumin, mustard, ginger, onion, garlic ....

Politics and economics aside., here is what the problem happens:

1. Then entire food grain industry of India will be skewed towards two staples - Rice and Wheat. The "coarse grain" part is anybody's guess. This actually endangers India's food security!

2. Funny part is that if the government cannot give food, they are supposed to dole out cash. You can see where this goes already., better to create a spurious ration card for priority house hold and then take cash in its lieu.

3. Since it targets 67% of India's population., the private players for grain collection and distribution will be squeezed out. For example, if you want red idli rice., you will not get it since the FCI goes for the "regular" rice for 70% of the population and which farmer will separately put out red idli rice for a small clientele with no distribution channel? This goes back to point one above.

4. Worst case subsidy bill of 1.25 Lakh crore. Who will foot the bill? Printing more rupees will lead to a baki kind of situation.

GOI should have learned 8 years back that "free food" does not lead to better HDI at the scale in India., what people need is "free choice". Farming is being destroyed in India due to all this unnecessary subsidies.

What government should do is get out of the business of providing subsidies and get into the business of providing swift law and order first. Get into governance and the rest will take care of itself.
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chaanakya wrote:President Pranab Mukherjee clears ordinance on food security

NEW DELHI: President Pranab Mukherjee on Friday signed the ordinance on food security to give nation's two-thirds population the right to get 5kg of foodgrains every month at highly subsidized rates of Rs 1-3 per kg.

Mukherjee cleared the ordinance, which was received by the President's secretariat last night, ending speculation that he may not be in a rush to give his nod in the wake of strong reservations over its present form expressed by BJP, Left and some other major parties.

The food security programme will be the biggest in the world with the government spending estimated at Rs 125,000 crore annually on supply of about 62 million tonnes of rice, wheat and coarse cereals to 67 per cent of the population.

The Cabinet, which had last month deferred a decision on the issue following differences within, had approved promulgation of an ordinance to implement the Food Security Bill on Wednesday.

The ordinance comes just weeks before the scheduled Monsoon session of Parliament and political parties demanding that the Food Security Bill be debated in both Houses before being passed.

....................

The ordinance will have to be approved by both the Lok Sabha and the Rajya Sabha within six months of promulgation.

The measure will guarantee 5kg of rice, wheat and coarse cereals per month per person at a fixed price of Rs 3, 2, 1, respectively,

However, about 2.43 crore poorest of the poor families covered under the Antyodaya Anna Yojana (AAY) scheme under public distribution system (PDS) would continue to get 35 kg of foodgrains per family per month but with legal entitlement
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The 6 months quoted in the article is wrong. It has to promulgated within 6 weeks after the start of parliament session.
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Freebies affect ‘free and fair’ polls: SC
New Delhi, July 5: Any promise of freebies such as television sets or laptops by political parties affects the level playing field and “shakes the root of free and fair elections”, the Supreme Court has held.

The court, however, clarified that such promises cannot be labelled “corrupt practice” under the existing laws and dismissed a petition challenging the competitive distribution of freebies by the AIADMK and the DMK during elections in Tamil Nadu.



http://www.telegraphindia.com/1130706/j ... 087264.jsp
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New Operating System for Governance at Centre

SPA-I

Secular Progressive Alliance.
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6 जुलाई को अयोध्या जाएंगे अमित शाह

http://navbharattimes.indiatimes.com/ot ... 916460.cms
अयोध्या के कारसेवकपुरम मे 6 जुलाई को होने वाली बीजेपी की अवध प्रांत की बैठक के मुख्य अतिथि अमित शाह का कार्यक्रम तय हो गया है। पूर्व मंत्री लल्लू सिंह ने बताया कि शाह 6 जुलाई को सुबह 10 बजे अयोध्या पहुंचेगे और सबसे पहले विवादित परिसर मे स्थापित राम लला के दर्शन व पूजन॒ करेंगे। इसके बाद वह हनुमान गढी के हनुमानजी का दर्शन करने के बाद राम नगरी के॒ संतो का भी आशीर्वाद प्राप्त करेंगे।

150 पदाधिकारियो के साथ करेंगे विचार मंथनः इसके बाद वह कारसेवकपुरम मे आयोजित अवध प्रांत की बैठक मे अवध प्रांत के करीब 14 जिलो के॒ 150 पदाधिकारियो के साथ विचार विमर्श कर , 2014 का चुनाव जीतने की रणनीति पर मंथन करेगे । सिंह ने बताया कि कार्यक्रम की तैयारी पूरी कर ली गई है। उन्होंने कहा कि बैठक में गंभीरता से संगठन को लेकर विचार विमर्श किया जाएगा ।

बताया गया कि बैठक मे बीजेपी के प्रदेश अध्यक्ष लक्ष्मी कांत वाजपेई के अलावा बीजेपी के अन्य प्रदेश स्तर के नेता भी शामिल होंगे। शाह उसी दिन शाम को गोरखपुर के लिए रवाना हो जाएंगे।
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In AP all MLAs of Rayalaseeema started resigning to their MLA/MLC seats for United AP and against possible division ovf Rayalaseema. INC is in more problems in AP with no INC gains in sites irrespective of any decision of Telangana.
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Got in an email and from a fb post of Nalamotu Chakravarthy

Is Divison of AP Immineny? By Dr. Parakala Prabhakar
Rumour mills are working overtime.

The story doing the rounds is that the division of Andhra Pradesh is imminent.

There are several variants to the story, depending on from whom you hear it. But the main theme runs like this:

Sonia Gandhi has taken a decision to divide Andhra Pradesh.

The basis for this decision is the parting advice given by Gulam Nabi Azad who, until about a few days ago, was in charge of congress affairs in the state. He is believed to have given her the following formula: divide the state in such a way that the two parts will have 21 Lok Sabha seats each. That would mean adding two Rayalaseema districts – Anantapur and Kurnool – to the Telangana districts to form a state with Hyderabad as its capital.

Azad’s formula is supposedly a political master stroke, these rumour mongers will want us to believe. It would in one shot finish off KCR and TRS in Telangana and also undermine the strength of Jagan Reddy by distributing his regional base between two states. Congress will, in the process, gain considerably in Telangana region as the ‘giver’ of Telangana, and because of weakening of Jagan, will also be in the reckoning in the Coastal and Rayalaseema regions in the 2014 elections.

This, according to rumours, is the basis for the Congress decision to divide the state.

Some mills added a bit of spice to the story. They say that the TRS chief is completely sidelined in this saga. It is Prof Kodandaram, the chairman of T-JAC, who was taken into confidence and Rahul Gandhi supposedly had an hour long chat with him on the proposal to divide the state.

Some divine that the 30 June public meeting organised by the Congress leaders in Hyderabad was done at the behest of their high command. The intention of the central leadership is to position the Telangana congress leaders to take credit for the creation of a separate state of Telangana. Some others say it was not the high command which directly asked them to hold the rally, but told Jaipal Reddy who in turn told his camp follower Jana Reddy to organise the show. The rally ensured, our mills suggest, that the credit for dividing the state would go to Congress and not to the TRS.

Sonia Gandhi’s refusal to meet the AP Chief Minister Kiran Reddy during his recent trip to Delhi is a loud enough indication that in her mind the state is already divided, these rumour mills aver.

These mills tell us that the political leaders from the coastal area are silenced with the promise of hefty civil works contracts to build a new capital for the other residual state. The real estate boom that’s likely in the event of division in the coastal districts will mitigate the opposition from the general public, these rumours want us to believe. It seems the centre has already bought the consent of Rayalaseema leaders who matter for the division of their region, the purveyors of these rumours have come to know for sure.

Rumour mills have a way of ensuring that a small escape route is available in the very likely eventuality of their stories not coming true. In this case, however, the escape route actually lends some nail biting suspense to the narration.

Although Sonia Gandhi decided to divide the state and in this project she had the backing of Chidambaram, Azad, and Moily, the plan has formidable opposition. The decision is not going to be easy, they caution. The rumour mills want us to believe that Anthony, Digvijaya Singh, the Prime Minister, and even Rahul Gandhi are dead set against the division plan. President Pranab Babu is also not in favour of division.


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This, therefore, is a cliff hanger. There would be a car chase, a shoot out, and a heavy pumping of adrenaline before the climax is unveiled. These rumour mills promise us.

In Gandhi Bhavan, in NTR Trust Building, and in TRS Bhavan, this or some variant of this is the topic of conversation. News papers run stories along these lines. TV channels busy themselves collecting talking heads to discuss this, and as the tempo of the shows build the panelists shout and get at each other’s collars to provide some serious comedy to the viewers.

The agenda for political discourse in Andhra Pradesh is set for at least the next ten days.

Serious matters of policy with far reaching and grave consequences to our Republic are thus subjected to mindless rumour mills and comic commentaries.

Enjoy this circus until they dish out another one. Till recently this sort of comedy was provided by the TRS chief. Now it seems it is the turn of the Congress leaders and some media outfits to entertain us and give us our daily dose of stimulants.

Don’t be anxious. There’s no danger to the unity of Andhra Pradesh.
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Narayana Rao wrote:In AP all MLAs of Rayalaseeema started resigning to their MLA/MLC seats for United AP and against possible division ovf Rayalaseema. INC is in more problems in AP with no INC gains in sites irrespective of any decision of Telangana.
http://www.andhraheadlines.com/BrowseAr ... tId=116872
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They wrote their resignations in the Speaker’s format and submitted to the Samaikyandhra JAC. :rotfl:
...YSR Congress MLA Srikant Reddy said they submitted their resignations because of the proposal to divide Rayalaseema.
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They are repeating T-jokers' tactics. But tactic of dividing Rayalaseema keeps T-movement for another 1-2 rounds of elections for Congress - "You see we're ready to give but those Rayalaseema people are agitating".

3 regions, 3 jokers (KCR, Jagan, Chiru) for Congress win.
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The proponents of united AP overestimated their prowess to impress upon central govt the futility of division to the people of AP as well as to the nation.

If united AP cause was prevailed until now, it was only due to the huge loss that congress would have suffered in the event of bifurcation. When congress initiated this game of division in 2004 to defeat a seemingly unbeatable TDP, as it happened with Punjab and NE, they didn't realize the long term consequences. They thought that once TDP is decimated they could reinsert the Jini that they unleashed. In fact they almost did. But the advent of Jagan in Seemandhra area after the sudden demise of YSR, and a never dying T movement (thanks to the age of internet and instant communication) caught up with them.

Now, fast forward 10 years, Congress is between a rock and a hard place: if T is given, they will be wiped out of SA and retain strong position in T. If T is not given, they will be wiped out of T and may end up either second or third in SA, behind YSRCP. So the obvious choice is to give T.

Unless united AP supporters somehow show and convince Congress that united AP is beneficial to Congress in 2014, it is a lost cause for them. There is a sense of urgency on congress to reduce damage to the party. I strongly believe that they will announce the division of AP very shortly. The last minute touches are being worked out to maximize the benefit for Congress in T, and do maximum damage to TDP in SA ( as they can always count on YSRCP to support them in after elections alignment).
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Dasari wrote: Now, fast forward 10 years, Congress is between a rock and a hard place: if T is given, they will be wiped out of SA and retain strong position in T. If T is not given, they will be wiped out of T and may end up either second or third in SA, behind YSRCP. So the obvious choice is to give T.
If the highlighted red color stuff is true, you would have seen T formation about couple of years ago. Irrespective of what they do, they are going to lose everywhere and that is a given. What they are trying is to get the subregional popular parties as mergers into congress and the decision is dependent on who will comes or both will come, post election mergers etc. It is no more T sentiment or small states or dochukunnaru stuff. The division of state is purely on a electoral math situation.

Actually the public is no more interested in this even though everyone reads this stuff. The real estate in all areas is peaking as though there is no tomorrow.
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Muppalla wrote:
Dasari wrote: Now, fast forward 10 years, Congress is between a rock and a hard place: if T is given, they will be wiped out of SA and retain strong position in T. If T is not given, they will be wiped out of T and may end up either second or third in SA, behind YSRCP. So the obvious choice is to give T.
If the highlighted red color stuff is true, you would have seen T formation about couple of years ago. Irrespective of what they do, they are going to lose everywhere and that is a given. What they are trying is to get the subregional popular parties as mergers into congress and the decision is dependent on who will comes or both will come, post election mergers etc. It is no more T sentiment or small states or dochukunnaru stuff. The division of state is purely on a electoral math situation.
It is true two years ago as well. What was not true two years ago is that it was not certain that Congress would lose SA, and the fact that 2014 elections were two and half years away to give hope for Congress to manage the situation. Now every weapon used against Jagan failed, and time has run out. Two recent opinion polls gave a clear victory for YSRCP , and their own internal polls revealed equally damaging situation in SA. So T is the only hope for them. The last remaining task for them is to choreograph T formation as a victory for T congress, and also force TRS to either merge or force a split (KCR versus Harish Rao). Congress cozying up with Kodandaram is another step in this direction.

It is true that people of AP got sick and tired of this drama. However, it cannot be assumed that people will not care about it. Come elections, the emotional scars of separation (especially realizing that Hyderabad is not their capital anymore) will cost Congress at least one election.
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That would mean adding two Rayalaseema districts – Anantapur and Kurnool – to the Telangana districts
I do not see how this is going to happen. Why will Anantapur and Kurnool people accept being a part of Telangana? There will be a massive unrest the likes of which no body will be able to control.
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INC is like EIC. They can arrange or rearrange India as they want. Is there a problem? Also Ap people have shown they like INC all the time.
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The blasts in Bodhigaya point towards increased muscle flexing by islamists in the UP-Bihar region, the primary work area of Mayawatiji. The blasts point towards a serious clash between islamists and SCs (who have taken to Buddhism as a marga proposed by Dr.Ambedkar).
Now this makes Behenji's wooing of Muslim vote in UP untenable (SC and Muslim votebanks looks like a severely unstable combination), the biggest beneficiary of this blast is SP or INC, since it will get all the votes that wants to stop BJP.

In this respect, it is difficult to explain Mayawati's vehement opposition to NM. Is it a precursor to Cong-BSP alliance (even if unstated)?

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Mayawati said this (while addressing a Brahman Bhaichara Sammelan):
"We ran the government of sarvjan sukhay and sarvjan hitay honestly," she said.
We should not be surprised if one day we discover Mayawatiji quote Upanishads (and that would be a happy day for our country).
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Prahaar ji, I suspect the plans for UPA-3 with Behenji as new MMS. Even though a lot of INC men hate, that is the best shot to continue in power. How to keep nationalists out of power is a model that is executed outside of India. The trigger of AP's divisions has reaped two terms. One more term on the same seems very difficult. The next trigger is all speculation but the body languages are telling somehow to bring both Dalit and Muslims on the same plane for future loot. This whole Dalit conversion to Buddhism is just on paper and it is extremely insignificant.

For a change, if that happens, both Mulayam and Laloo should join NDA to defeat the congress. They really need to think JP movement otherwise Modi or no-Modi if Maya is officially part of UPA with PMship then there not much room to defeat UPA.
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prahaar wrote:The blasts in Bodhigaya point towards increased muscle flexing by islamists in the UP-Bihar region, the primary work area of Mayawatiji.
Bodhgaya was sourounded by STF from Bihar police each and every person entering or leaving
The premises was searched there was ten blast plus two thussi one was found in th tourist bus parked do you think without bolis looking the otherway it is possible? hainji? and IM have such influence to make bolis look otherway?
posting me conclsion would be superflousus, no?
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