Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 05 Jul 2013 17:23

Mupalla-ji

Also read another article by RSN Singh "Why Indian Politicans are Fear Haafeez Saed"

Link is below the article posted.

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 05 Jul 2013 18:09

Don't worry, Modi is 'just' about to be nabbed - Sunil Rajguru in Sify

But it has been 11 years since that and in that manner at least, everyone has been proved wrong. If you have a strong belief that Modi is guilty, then there are dozens of straws that you can clutch on to. However, in terms of concrete evidence to nail Modi, absolutely nothing has come up.

The damage has been done. The media convinced millions that year that Modi was guilty and those millions still stick on to their beliefs till the present day.

That has been the consistent pattern for the last 11 years. Shrill reports keep resurfacing that Modi is just on the verge of being nabbed. When nothing of the sort happened, many more reports appeared saying that "he has got away" or he has got a "reprieve" or is merely on the "verge" of being proved guilty.

he strategy is clear and goes by the following procedure...

First headline: Is Modi guilty?

Next headline: Evidence points to Modi being guilty.

Final headline: Modi gets off the hook due to lack of evidence.

Or it may be done in the manner of...

First headline: Modi flies out 15,000 from Uttarakhand.

Second headline: Modi's 15,000 claim total rubbish.

Third headline: What was the 15,000 source in the first place?

Or...

First headline: Modi to visit Ayodhya, angers minorities.

Second headline: Modi not to visit Ayodhya, angers Hindus.

Final headline: Was Modi not to have visited Ayodhya in the first place?

In between all these headlines, the Congress, other parties, the so-called intellectuals, liberals, seculars and many sections of the media rubbish Modi as much as they possibly can. It's always one thing after another and in a way a free for all non-stop carnival that has been going on for more than a decade now.

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 05 Jul 2013 18:59

prahaar wrote:Did anyone see the EBOOK Ad in FirstPost peddling "Drugged Kidnapped and Murdered Ishrat Jahan"? Has our media stooped so low? Jagan claims to be a decent new media promoter, yet his website is promoting such "BOOKs". Shameful.

I doubt if publishers have full control over which ads and advertisers get visibility on their websites. The reverse is true--advertisers can choose which websites they want their ads to show up in, sometimes even which articles by indicating which "keywords" are important to their message, ie. "Ishrat Jahan", "Modi" etc.

The "world Vision" advertisers with photos of sad-looking Indian kids are past masters at this kind of media warfare but at least they are being challenged by the Sivananda Ashram folks.

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 05 Jul 2013 19:10

Smriti Irani & Rahul Kanwal

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10 ... =2&theater

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 05 Jul 2013 19:11

Many facts about a terrorist traitor

http://storify.com/sureshnakhua/unknown ... aitordiggi

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 05 Jul 2013 19:26

Dated, NaMo's reply to Election Commission

http://theprudentindian.wordpress.com/2 ... odi-media/

munna · Post by **munna** » 05 Jul 2013 19:45

Muppalla wrote:That whole article when written by ex-RAW, it is getting traction. Several similar analysis by BRF members are laughed off as CTs by respectable maharathis of this forum.

Derision, insults and too clever by half comments will not be able to mask the truth. People should remember that no regime is permanent, totalitarian leaders like Gaddafis, Mubaraks and Saddams do fall down, one day. Even mighty Mughals were brought down from the throne of Delhi, so will others. Keep walkin'

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 05 Jul 2013 19:55

Karuna Nundy ‏@karunanundy 22m
Meet Ishrat Jahan's family tomorrow July 6th, at the Constitution Club, Delhi. Many artists will perform in solidarity, from 5pm onwards.

Desperate but well orchestrated battle goes on against Modi...

prahaar · Post by **prahaar** » 05 Jul 2013 20:02

I would have thought about it as some joke, if I did not verify it from twitter. This tamasha has become unbearable

.

kittoo · Post by **kittoo** » 05 Jul 2013 20:12

http://indiawires.com/24719/news/nation ... -ministry/

Ishrat Jahan case: IB chief Ibrahim files complaint against CBI with Home Ministry

New Delhi: In a significant step, Intelligence Bureau (IB) chief Asif Ibrahim has formally lodged a complaint against CBI in the Home Ministry, over the “witch-hunt” against its officials by the investigative agency in the Ishrat Jahan case. In his complaint, Ibrahim said that the CBI move is “disastrous for the morale of IB officers” and would harm the country’s internal security.

Ibrahim’s letter to former home secretary RK Singh, putting on record his disapproval of the CBI investigation into the alleged encounter killing, came after CBI stuck to its stand in the June 13 meeting where the chiefs of the two central agencies discussed the issue of with the home secretary. The discussion was on the alleged involvement of IB special director Rajendra Kuamr in the killing

Singh had reportedly advised Ibrahim to put his objections on record in a letter rather than just as a verbal complaint.

CBI has mentioned the names of four senior IB officers in its chargesheet filed on Wednesday, without making them accused yet. But the investigative agency has promised to file a supplementary charge sheet, in which it is likely to make them “accused”.

Hats off to Mr. Ibrahim.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 05 Jul 2013 20:14

Murugan wrote:Mupalla-ji

Also read another article by RSN Singh "Why Indian Politicans are Fear Haafeez Saed"

Link is below the article posted.

Very good one. Hope you posted on internal security thread on Start forum.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 05 Jul 2013 20:14

Political parties misusing bureaucracy, police, courts and intelligence institutions is one thing; but INC pitting one organization against another is phucking the country.

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 05 Jul 2013 20:31

prahaar wrote:I would have thought about it as some joke, if I did not verify it from twitter. This tamasha has become unbearable .

It has become the tweet of the day though not more than hour old.

very serious replies this lib lady is getting.

BhairavP · Post by **BhairavP** » 05 Jul 2013 20:39

Karuna Nundy is an advocate in the Supreme Court. Yuck.

munna · Post by **munna** » 05 Jul 2013 20:46

Headlines Today exposing Headley's testimony live, it explicitly names Ishrat Jahan! A hot potato this case.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 05 Jul 2013 20:52

BhairavP wrote:Karuna Nundy is an advocate in the Supreme Court. Yuck.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 05 Jul 2013 20:54

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 05 Jul 2013 20:56

Who is Gaurav Sawant? He has mentioned that he was in the court when Headley made disclosure about Ishrat Jehan.

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 05 Jul 2013 20:57

Pure guesswork but it seems India Today and NDTV works together to help UPEEA.

NDTV started Ishrat case... FSB Passed without much brouhaha and India Today ends the Drama

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 05 Jul 2013 21:07

What will we do without Internet...

http://www.ippairetreat.com/Speaker-Bios.aspx?=47

Karuna Nundy is an advocate in the Supreme Court of India, she specialises in commercial dispute resolution and human rights litigation. She also advises United Nations agencies and governments of various countries to help their legal systems conform to international and constitutional legal standards.
Ms. Nundy argues and appears in matters involving a range of commercial issues which include tax, property, contract and arbitration. She has advised Airbus S.A.S, Texas Instruments Inc., Renault F1 Team, Dabur Ayurvet Ltd., public sector companies such as Telecommunications Consultants India Ltd. among others. Ms. Nundy has worked with Clifford Chance LLP on various international arbitrations, including Bilateral Investment Treaty arbitrations, and given talks to the Clifford Chance arbitration group, ASSOCHAM and the PHD Chamber of Commerce on navigating international arbitration issues. Ms. Nundy is a member of the LCIA Young International Arbitrators' Group and of the New York State Bar Association.
At the Supreme Court of India Ms. Nundy is leading litigation concerning the rights of the Bhopal Gas victims against the Government of India, State Government of Madhya Pradesh, the Union Carbide Corporation and the Dow Chemicals Corporation. She has also argued cases involving the rights of alleged terrorists, mentally ill people and class actions on sexual harassment. Ms. Nundy was on the National Advisory Council's drafting committee for the Right to Food Bill and advised on the Communal Violence Bill and the Mental Health Care Bill.
Ms. Nundy's international human rights work has included advising the Maldives Attorney General's Office and working with the Chief Justice of the Maldives Supreme Court on legal reform. She has drafted contributions to the Nepal Interim Constitution's bill of rights; conducted a workshop on legislation with the Senate of Pakistan; advised the Government on Bhutan on its compliance with particular human rights treaties. She has been invited by the United Nations to advise on legal reform in 192 jurisdictions.
Ms. Nundy obtained a degree in Economics from St. Stephen's college, Delhi University. Her first law degree is from the University of Cambridge, England where she was awarded the Emmeline Pankhurst prize, the Amy Cohen Awards and the Becker Studentship. She then received an LL.M from Columbia University, New York where she was awarded a Columbia University Full Fellowship. Ms. Nundy is qualified in India and New York

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 05 Jul 2013 21:09

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 05 Jul 2013 21:17

"A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within." W. Durant

- this is so appropriate for the INC era we unfortunately live in.

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 05 Jul 2013 21:41

Fmr CBI Dir Joginder Singh @HeadlinesToday: Hadley in USA was under no pressures info voluntarily on #IshratJahan.Shud've probed more

mraghu · Post by **mraghu** » 05 Jul 2013 21:44

Mr Doval is taking apart all the journalists on NDTV, Watch it

disha · Post by **disha** » 05 Jul 2013 21:44

SwamyG wrote:Political parties misusing bureaucracy, police, courts and intelligence institutions is one thing; but INC pitting one organization against another is phucking the country.

Oh yeah!

Maybe you were born after emergency or just there about. Now here is what was happening in India during emergency

1. Concentration camps in Kerala
2. Forced Sterilization across UP/Bihar/MP
3. Police brutality all over
4. Court judges (from lower to higher court) were "tailed" to see their allegiances., the investigative arm was pitted against the judicial arm

Put it this way., INC was pitting one org. against another in ahem-ahem with country., the net result

83/84 - Akali Dal, Khalistan movement
89 - LTTE/IPKF
92 - ahem-ahem with economy., mortgaging gold etc.

It was not until 1999, that an oasis of stability was reached (1977 to 1997., two lost decades for India!).

So who do you want at the helm now? I would say anything but Congress.

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 05 Jul 2013 21:50

Nitish KuMard's JDU called Ishrat "Bihar ki Beti"

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 05 Jul 2013 21:50

Unbelievable, Congress is now slowly moving away from Ishrat Jahan case and attacking the IB in its entirety. They want to take it over completely so they can let the jihadis in so they can target politicians who don't suit their agenda.

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 05 Jul 2013 21:53

My heart is aching seeing this development since morning.

B**turds

disha · Post by **disha** » 05 Jul 2013 21:57

Muruganji, whatever may be going on in India which is tearing away your heart and soul., do not express your anger using "wrong" words.

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 05 Jul 2013 21:59

Murugan wrote:

Believe Hadley, Not CBI !!!!

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 05 Jul 2013 22:02

disha wrote:Muruganji, whatever may be going on in India which is tearing away your heart and soul., do not express your anger using "wrong" words.

Advice taken sincerely

****

Pl read this

http://www.sunday-guardian.com/news/nia ... s-with-let

The Intelligence Bureau (IB) too, in its correspondence with the CBI — one as recent as February 2013 — told the agency that Jahan was working for LeT.

In its reply to a CBI letter (No.RC/5/S/2011/CBI/SCB/Mumbai/43 dated 13 February 2013), the IB mentions about the intelligence input that it received post the Godhra riots, indicating a threat to several leaders including Narendra Modi. The same input was shared by the IB with all state police heads vide IB TP no. 0327 on 22 April 2004.

This response also mentions that the Federal Bureau of Investigation had communicated to the IB that Headley had confessed to the US agency about Zaki telling him about a "female suicide bomber", Ishrat Jahan, who was recruited by Muzammil.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 05 Jul 2013 22:11

Shoma Chaudary would rather see our agents butchered and another 26/11 repeat instead of these jihadis being sent to their Allah where they belong. When these jihadis target our politicians, a strong message must be sent to their camp. We are past the point of trying these people especially with these NGOs being given a free reign to disrupt investigations and trials. It doesn't help that the ruling party has political motivations in getting rid of opposition figures. You can't risk it. If it was a fake encounter I don't blame our agents. Keeping these jihadis alive with the risk that one day they go free like Binayak Sen and others is unacceptable.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 05 Jul 2013 22:28

MRV ‏@MRVChennai 7h
Congress have changed this Iqbal classic - Sare jahan se accha - Ishrat Jahan hamara!

https://twitter.com/MRVChennai

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 05 Jul 2013 22:29

Murugan wrote:
disha wrote:Muruganji, whatever may be going on in India which is tearing away your heart and soul., do not express your anger using "wrong" words.
Advice taken sincerely

****

Pl read this

http://www.sunday-guardian.com/news/nia ... s-with-let

The Intelligence Bureau (IB) too, in its correspondence with the CBI — one as recent as February 2013 — told the agency that Jahan was working for LeT.

In its reply to a CBI letter (No.RC/5/S/2011/CBI/SCB/Mumbai/43 dated 13 February 2013), the IB mentions about the intelligence input that it received post the Godhra riots, indicating a threat to several leaders including Narendra Modi. The same input was shared by the IB with all state police heads vide IB TP no. 0327 on 22 April 2004.

This response also mentions that the Federal Bureau of Investigation had communicated to the IB that Headley had confessed to the US agency about Zaki telling him about a "female suicide bomber", Ishrat Jahan, who was recruited by Muzammil.

After if this Congis are still willing to overlook the theory of SushiB then it creates suspicion that the whole thing was their plant to somehow trap and fix . How else they are so sure of her innocence when she was moving in their company well before FE.

I hope they remember that innocent school girl who garlanded the then opposition leader.

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 05 Jul 2013 22:38

Martyr-Ishrat,
Terrorist-Bhagat Singh,
Freedom fighter-Yasin Malik
Nationalist-ArundhatiRoy,
Demon-Narender Modi.
Welcome to new Indian lexicon.

Kamal Hak ‏@KamalHak 4 Jul
Martyr-Ishrat, Terrorist-Bagat Singh, Freedom fighter-Y Malik Nationalist-ArundhatiRoy, Demon-Narender Modi. Welcome to new Indian lexicon.

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 05 Jul 2013 22:45

GOI Records on Encounter

http://164.100.47.132/LssNew/psearch/QR ... ref=136655

dt. 5 March 2013

MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI R.P.N. SINGH)

(a) State-wise details of the total 555 cases registered by the National Human Rights Commission (NHRC) of alleged fake encounters by police, defence and para-military forces during the period 2009-10 to 2012-13 (as on 15.2.13) are placed at Annexure. Out of above 555 cases, 144 cases have been solved and the remaining 411 are unsolved.

Had it occurred to you bhaio or baheno that out of 555 cases, 554 solved/unsolved encounters were SECULAR?!? Only one was communal !!!

rohitvats · Post by **rohitvats** » 05 Jul 2013 22:57

I don't know, but it might not bode well for INC and their acolytes in CBI to piss off IB...after all, they are past masters at subterfuge and leaks. I would not be surprised if we hear 'inside' scoops and dirt on CBI officers, SIT chamchas and INC politicians behind the game plan. This is one tiger you don't mess with.

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 05 Jul 2013 23:13

Congress depends on IB for ground inputs on political currents in states. IB is going to screw them royally. I pray to Bhagwan Krishna, please send the Sudarshan Chakra down & behead all these modern day demons.

India will officially go to dogs & become an Islamic country in another 10 years if our people vote in UPA 3 or Turd Front.

prahaar · Post by **prahaar** » 05 Jul 2013 23:15

Could this be a fratricidal war within UPA3? Was MMS the HM during the encounter, and due to lack of insufficient time the ministry was running in autopilot. Now involving IB things end up at the door of PMO. MMS can be sacrificed to defeat NM.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 05 Jul 2013 23:18

I think congress did a huge mistake. They went beyond the red line that anyone can dare to cross.