Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

[VikramS]

The problem is that what would not be news before is now major news simply because Modi did or did not do that.
All red-herrings.

[KJo]

I am actually quite impressed by NM not wearing that skull cap. Takes guts and principle in the present day dhimmi setup to do that. The IMs don;t want Vande Mataram and i've never seen a Muslim politician even sporting a Tilak ever..why the need for dhimmi symbolization then?

Zigackly!
All these sickular gestures are supposed to be done by Hindoos onlee.
You will very very rarely find Muslims who will take part in any Hindooo festivity because to them it symbolizes idol worship.
You saw how mullahs got so mad when Salman Khan did Ganapathi pooja in his house.

Mullah's worst nightmare. Lots of taq-e-ef and kujl-e-e.

[Kakkaji]

Hindus need to register and vote for Modi in large numbers this time. If they don't, then they deserve to become second-class citizens or worse in their own country as they are becoming.

[SaiK]

what becoming.. the fact that MMS and Sonia combine is ruling is enough indicator of the state we have become.. if modi takes up, the correction process itself is going take a big toll.

[muraliravi]

Hindus need to register and vote for Modi in large numbers this time. If they don't, then they deserve to become second-class citizens or worse in their own country as they are becoming.

please research well state by state and you will come to the conclusion that barring a few seats, congress gets 65-80% of its votes from yindoos onlee. Even in Gujarat they get 42-43% vote. Lets say gujarat has 65% voting. The state has 9% muslim pop. But lets say they vote in larger numbers. so for every 9 muslims, 7 vote (78% voting). Among the 91 hindus, only 58 vote (63% voting). So of the 65, you have 7 muslims and 58 hindus. So pro-rated, for 100 people, you have approx 11 muslims and 89 hindus. Lets assume all muslims vote for congress. congress got 43 votes of which 32 came from hindus. thats 32/43 or 75% vote. Thats huge. It maybe even more, if we say that bjp gets 1-2 muslim votes. Now these yindoos voting fro congress are not dhimmi at all as we like to call them on BR. They very well know why they vote congress. Caste, money, freebies, vested interest, bjp's own share of faults, better local congress leader. and hazaar other reasons.

There a bunch of states in india which share a similar minority pop and adhere to the same calculation i have provided above

I am sick and tired of hearing that congress wins becos it gets minority votes. Neither do they win becos they get minority and sc/st vote. BJP also gets tribal/sc vote. If one wants to understand why congress is winning elections, better understand the hindus who vote for congress well.

[Rudradev]

Announcement of Modi as BJP's PM candidate may be delayed

New Delhi, Aug 9

Though BJP is confident of victory in Congress-ruled Rajasthan and to a great extent in Madhya Pradesh, the chances are slim in Chhattisgarh and quite bleak in Delhi, according to party sources.[/b]

Much will also depend on whether Congress wil


What the heck is going on in Chattisgarh. Can congress really pull it off? I know that the vote share gap is pretty damn slim there.

It's easy to see what has happened in Chhatisgarh.

Essentially, the old guard of CG Congress leaders, including VC Shukla and Mahendra Karma, have been quite literally wiped out and replaced with a New Guard. This New Guard, assembled by Sonia Gandhi through the agency of her right hand man (Christian Convert Ajit Jogi) includes in its rank and file many members of the Maoist terror groups, who have now come overground and joined the mainstream political process. Many of these New Guard Congressmen are probably Christian Converts who claim Tribal origins, and are very well funded by the same Breaking India sources who also support Maoist terrorism.

To induct and ensure the loyalty of this New Guard of CG Congress, and to liquidate the relatively nationalist Old Guard leaders, Sonia and Ajit Jogi engineered the en-masse Maoist massacre of senior Congress leaders in Bastar on May 28 2013. Two curious circumstances obtain regarding that incident: one, Jogi himself was the only CG leader who happened to be absent from the site of attack, traveling by helicopter while nearly all the other Old Guard leaders were part of the vehicular convoy that the Maoists ambushed. Two, initial press reports from NIA sources spoke of evidence that the Maoist attackers had been in communication, beforehand, with unnamed members of the Congress party. These reports were soon buried and conveniently forgotten, with no discernible media follow-up.

Evidently, the putsch that has replaced the CG Congress circle of power with overground Maoists, was itself accomplished through a terror strike by underground Maoists. What CG faces now is the prospect of takeover by a new, heavily Christianized Congress under Sonia's direct patronage, backed by forces who are engaged in waging and supporting an active war against the nation. And that too, in the very heart of India.

[Muppalla]

Evidently, the putsch that has replaced the CG Congress circle of power with overground Maoists, was itself accomplished through a terror strike by underground Maoists. What CG faces now is the prospect of takeover by a new, heavily Christianized Congress under Sonia's direct patronage, backed by forces who are engaged in waging and supporting an active war against the nation. And that too, in the very heart of India.

agreed. But how in the world they can just win with less 2% Christian pop?

[Rudradev]

Evidently, the putsch that has replaced the CG Congress circle of power with overground Maoists, was itself accomplished through a terror strike by underground Maoists. What CG faces now is the prospect of takeover by a new, heavily Christianized Congress under Sonia's direct patronage, backed by forces who are engaged in waging and supporting an active war against the nation. And that too, in the very heart of India.

agreed. But how in the world they can just win with less 2% Christian pop?

They will project themselves as Tribals when necessary (as Jogi himself does), use the Maoist intimidation networks to coerce votes from areas where state security presence is compromised, and buy votes massively elsewhere with money from the same sources that fund Maoism. The Xtian angle as always will be cryptic; how much of India's pop, after all, are Italian Catholics?

[muraliravi]

They will project themselves as Tribals when necessary (as Jogi himself does), use the Maoist intimidation networks to coerce votes from areas where state security presence is compromised, and buy votes massively elsewhere with money from the same sources that fund Maoism. The Xtian angle as always will be cryptic; how much of India's pop, after all, are Italian Catholics?

Sir this ploy wont work. So essentially you are saying that these congress leaders who were killed were diverting votes to BJP. But now they are gone and hence people will vote for congress leaders who are maoists/tribals. The networks who are coercing voters to vote for congress could have done that last time also. The congress leaders who dies surely did not stop that to aid BJP win elections.

[devesh]

if Saffron has to retreat in Chattisgarh, things will become bleak for AP. one could say it can't get any worse than it is, considering the current situation. but if Central India becomes an EJ bastion, it is almost guaranteed that EJ'isation will receive a significant boost in AP (all regions).

it is important to keep MP and CG free from the leeches of INC. if they are penetrated, BJP or any other saffron force will splinter without a strong core to hold it. and the Andhra and Orissa swathe will be sitting ducks for further aggression from the proselytizers. in Andhra's case, both sets of proselytizers are present. so, the Hindu faces further confusion. and the Hindu elites have that many more opportunities to play the games of using so-and-so to keep some hated Hindu brothers in check.

[Hari Seldon]

Sad that INC is the 'deep state' in India. Once it is compromised, there's no last line of institutional defence against organized invasions from outside - graphic, demographic, psychographic or any other variety anymore...

[muraliravi]

We wont win the war even if Namo rules for 20 years non-stop unless we start the process re-conversion. But to re-convert you first need a doctrine and a process. That is something that we can devise right here on BR before it is provided to ground level people. Rather than whining about the enemy, we should learn how to take the attack to their territory and that is the only way to win the battle. But anyway this thread is not the right place.

[Sushupti]

‘Vadra used falsified documents, sham transactions to collect premium on land deal’

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/v ... 007610.ece

[VikramS]

Evidently, the putsch that has replaced the CG Congress circle of power with overground Maoists, was itself accomplished through a terror strike by underground Maoists. What CG faces now is the prospect of takeover by a new, heavily Christianized Congress under Sonia's direct patronage, backed by forces who are engaged in waging and supporting an active war against the nation. And that too, in the very heart of India.

agreed. But how in the world they can just win with less 2% Christian pop?

There is a reason why the 2011 census religion data is not being released....

[Rudradev]

They will project themselves as Tribals when necessary (as Jogi himself does), use the Maoist intimidation networks to coerce votes from areas where state security presence is compromised, and buy votes massively elsewhere with money from the same sources that fund Maoism. The Xtian angle as always will be cryptic; how much of India's pop, after all, are Italian Catholics?

Sir this ploy wont work.

Let us hope so, sir, but I do not share your confidence.

So essentially you are saying that these congress leaders who were killed were diverting votes to BJP. But now they are gone and hence people will vote for congress leaders who are maoists/tribals. The networks who are coercing voters to vote for congress could have done that last time also. The congress leaders who dies surely did not stop that to aid BJP win elections.

You are quite wrong.

I spoke of an Old Guard in the CG Congress. They were certainly not diverting votes to BJP; BJP under Dr. Raman Singh got the votes simply because they provided superior governance in CG.

But at the same time: the Old Guard in CG Congress would never have had any sort of truck with Maoist networks, or used EvanJihadi money from Breaking-India type NGOs, to win elections.

Look at some of the Old Guard leaders from CG. Vidya Charan Shukla was a very senior member of Congress, of the same vintage as Sharad Pawar or N D Tiwari. Was VC Shukla a good man? I would not call him "good". As a minister he was corrupt (though by today's scam standards, he would look like a traffic cop taking a bribe.) He was also a die-hard sycophant of Indira Gandhi and Sanjay Gandhi, and gained notoriety as an enforcer of the Congress during the Emergency.

However, like many Congressmen of equal seniority, when push came to shove he would not join hands with overtly anti-national forces. Like many of his contemporaries, his loyalty to the Family ended with Indira or perhaps to some extent Rajiv Gandhi. He was uncomfortable with what happened to PVNR and then Sitaram Kesri, and as a leader with a mass base in his own right, he did not quietly submit to the diktats of the Foreigner. Whatever you say about VC Shukla, it is inconceivable that he would have used political networks of people who have overtly declared war upon the nation, or take funds from EJ organizations dedicated to destroying it.

On the other hand, Mahendra Karma-- though a Congress Minister in CG state-- was a true nationalist. He earned the name of Tiger of Bastar for his fierce resistance against the initial inroads of EJ-sponsored Maoist groups. And it was Mahendra Karma who actually did something that even we uber-nationalists on Bharat Rakshak fear to openly talk about: empowered the common people of Chhatisgarh to fight for their rights and property, by arming, training and organizing volunteers into a militia known as Salwa Judum.

The Salwa Judum dealt such a rapid succession of heavy blows against the Maoists in CG that they were reeling... soon, cadres from Andhra and Orissa were brought in by the CG Maoists to reinforce their ranks, while the overground supporters of Maoists in the media and "human rights" groups, like the infamous Binayak Sen, went into overdrive with shrill complaints about CG in all kinds of international fora. Mahendra Karma, though a Congressman, was a hero.

So this was the Old Guard of CG Congress. Maybe not perfect law-abiding citizens, maybe not completely "dharmic" in their approach, but a very far cry from the likes of Ajit Jogi... an EJ Convert who was handpicked by Sonia Gandhi to supersede many CG Congress leaders who were many years his senior.

It is no wonder that Ajit Jogi and Sonia Gandhi used their Maoist proxies to have these men murdered. So brutal was the EJ-Maoists' thirst for revenge, in fact, that on May 28th even Mahendra Karma's young son was not spared. In the process, CG Congress was cleared of senior leaders who had too much pride in their own region, their own country, to submit themselves slavishly to the whims and fancies of the Italian.

What has replaced the Old Guard of CG Congress is a New Breed... people like Ajit Jogi, no doubt handpicked by him from among the ranks of the EJ-sponsored Maoists. These people have no loyalty to Chhatisgarh, no sense of belonging to India, no identification with her culture or civilization or nationality. They live and breathe the Marxist propaganda of war against state structures by all available means... and they are very richly funded by US- and Europe-based Soul Harvesting Factories.

If you thought the Old Congress was bad, you have no idea what we're in for now. Figure it out... the Congress is not a monolith. Over 66 years it has produced some good leaders, as well as many leaders who were not exactly "good" but not traitors either. All that is changing now, under the unchallenged leadership of Sonia Gandhi... the entire leadership is being replaced, either with lawyers and technocrats with no mass base, or with crypto-EJ and Marxist ideologues like Digvijay Singh and Ajit Jogi, whose entire ideological mission is to cripple the Indian state, destroy her civilizational legacy, and undermine her institutions.

[Comer]

^^ Very nice post

[devesh]

that is our curse. we wish we could focus on events around the periphery and outside of India. but the demons within are so horrendous that we have no guarantee they won't devour us from within before we take any baby steps outside.

[Singha]

If you thought the Old Congress was bad, you have no idea what we're in for now. Figure it out... the Congress is not a monolith. Over 66 years it has produced some good leaders, as well as many leaders who were not exactly "good" but not traitors either. All that is changing now, under the unchallenged leadership of Sonia Gandhi... the entire leadership is being replaced, either with lawyers and technocrats with no mass base, or with crypto-EJ and Marxist ideologues like Digvijay Singh and Ajit Jogi, whose entire ideological mission is to cripple the Indian state, destroy her civilizational legacy, and undermine her institutions.

well said. up until the 1990s the INC did have some effective old-school leaders who rose to power in the IG years. as you say not exactly perfect but no slouches in governance and would not sell the country like the current handpicked set.

like a silent coup all these old leaders have either been ousted or retired due to old age. ony the mediocre and handpicked rabble is left now wielding massive and dark powers.

if you compare to IG or even RG era, there were plenty of people with mass base who became ministers and could win elections on their own. there were no non-entities and mystery people like today's set who are suddenly "spotted" by 10 janpath and hauled up from obscurity into the highest offices with zero track record, or miscreants who are rewarded for their loyalty with a seat at the table.

[Rudradev]

Sad that INC is the 'deep state' in India. Once it is compromised, there's no last line of institutional defence against organized invasions from outside - graphic, demographic, psychographic or any other variety anymore...

Big picture, Hari, big picture.

The INC was shaped and installed (despite the express wishes of Gandhi that it be disbanded) for exactly this purpose: to ensure that independent India never developed a deep state with either the capability or the intention to accord Indian interests a higher priority than Western (specifically British) interests.

In fact this was not what happened. Nehru played to script through most of his first decade in power, putting in place the policies responsible for what foreigners sneeringly referred to as a "Hindu" rate of growth. However, Nehru gradually began to veer off script with his recalcitrance over J&K (especially post the Sheikh Abdullah arrest) and his overtures towards NAM leaders who weren't exactly beloved of the West. When it was adjudged that he was getting too big for his boots, most especially with his successful liberation of Goa, he was slammed with the 1962 war. Even in that instance, the influence of characters like Krishna Menon demonstrated very amply that he had no "deep state" to fall back on.

Shastri, his successor, was expected to play the meek Gandhian and roll over for America's shiny new ally Ayub Khan... armed with Sabres, Pattons and UN Resolutions... by handing over Kashmir. Shastri did not comply, and met his end at Tashkent.

Indira Gandhi had to fight her way into power, and went off script completely with the Bangladesh War and Smiling Buddha. The entire Khalistan problem was fomented chiefly for the purpose of discrediting, and eventually assassinating her.

Despite the originally intended role of the Indian National Congress (to ideologically impede the creation of a strong and independent deep state)... India surprised the West by evolving enough of an independent political culture, and retaining enough of a nationalistic spirit over the decades to spawn robust national institutions served by many committed cadres. Not a perfect system of governance by any benchmark, but neither was it the Gunga-Din wog fest that the British envisioned. What's remarkable is that this system of institutions came up at all, in SPITE of the best efforts of the West.

This alone sets us apart from EVERY other postcolonial nation, from the Philippines to Nigeria; in every other case, the wog structures left behind by the former colonial administrators served their purpose, and completely aborted the emergence of meaningful national institutions, ensuring that the country concerned remained forever a client state with no independent agency of its own. I do not know what, other than a civilizational adherence to Raj-Dharma, can explain India's relative (though partial) immunity to such deliberate, protracted strangulation of its infant national culture.

The story goes on. Rajiv Gandhi's assertiveness in Brass Tacks and Chequerboard, as well as his ambitious attempts to intervene in Sri Lanka, were punished with an LTTE-brokered assassination. Chaos followed Rajiv, and the West must have breathed easy for a while, predicting that India would lapse at last into wholesale wog-hood. But eventually, despite the best efforts of the West and its proxies, their worst nightmare came true in the form of a genuinely nationalist, non-INC central government assuming power in 1998.

The six years from 1998 to 2004 provided a more conducive environment to fostering strong National institutions than any period before or since in the history of independent India. 50 years after independence, we had our first ever functioning government beholden to an ideology that was entirely untarnished by Western influence (however compromised its implementation under NDA-1 might have been.) We had our first ever effective administration that did not devolve completely around a hereditary cult of personality, which by definition makes all institutions subservient to an autocratic regime. We had our feet firmly on the road to economic prosperity on our own terms; and we had unprecedented confidence to assert our national interest repeatedly in the international theatre, whether at Pokhran, Kargil, or the theatre of Operation Parakaram. Not perfect by any means, not yet... but a damn sight closer to it than under any Congress regime before or after.


Given this, it is no coincidence whatsoever that Edvige Antonia Albina Maino (did you know her middle name is "Albina", meaning "White"?) all of a sudden came out of silent widowhood, exactly in 1998... allowing herself to be proclaimed Donna Guida Suprema of a rejuvenated Indian National Congress.

The UPA regimes have gone far beyond the Nehru Congress brief of stifling the emergence of Indian National Institutions. They have actively undertaken to undermine and destroy whatever effective institutions India has developed, in the form of the bureaucracy, the intelligence agencies, the armed forces, the judiciary, and the police. Indeed, the very model of the UPA itself... with two parallel governments, one of which wields absolute authority without any shred of responsibility... embodies an unprecedented measure to discredit the very basis of elected government guaranteed by our constitution. INC is not the deep state in India; it is now the primary agency involved in destroying whatever semblance of a deep state India managed to cobble together despite the best efforts of previous Congress avatars.

In all its millennia of existence, India has known an enemy of such perseverance, conviction, insiduousness and devastating effectiveness as the Sonia Maino Congress. By contrast, Jinnah was a buffoon; Robert Clive or Mahmud Ghaznavi mere thuggish amateurs.

Had it not been for this, I would personally have agreed with Atri Gurudev's notion that it is better to wait until 2016 for a NaMo government, and allow the IndraAstra of total economic collapse to strike during an interim UPA-3 regime. However, under the circumstances I am not certain that any semblance of India will survive at all if the UPA is left in power that long.

[Singha]

as I posted in some thread, eastern india is set up for a bloodletting that would rival the early days of J&K and Khalistani movements. we can expect massive levels of violence , ethnic cleansing in rural areas, investment flight and ofcourse the fall guy indian army/CRPF/BSF embroiled in the mess not of their creation.

assam and west bengal are probably going to 3 pieces each within 2020 under UPA watch.

bihar will resemble the 'liberated' areas like azamgarh and peshawar ie no non-muslim and no liberal muslim would feel safe there.

naxals will continue to stage out of CG and western rump-WB to bite at whatever piece of south bengal is left after partition....egged on by iconoclast leaders in kolkata who will cheer every atrocity until its their surprise surprise turn to be slaughtered.

[VikramS]

Rudradev:
Your posts need to be shared outside BRF.
Question is where and how.
Keep them short & to the point.

[rajithn]

Rudradev:
Your posts need to be shared outside BRF.
Question is where and how.
Keep them short & to the point.

The import of the post will be lost if he made those any shorter. The context and the connections he so beautifully weaves together needs to be taken in its entirity. My 2 paise..

[abhik]

please research well state by state and you will come to the conclusion that barring a few seats, congress gets 65-80% of its votes from yindoos onlee. Even in Gujarat they get 42-43% vote. Lets say gujarat has 65% voting. The state has 9% muslim pop. But lets say they vote in larger numbers. so for every 9 muslims, 7 vote (78% voting). Among the 91 hindus, only 58 vote (63% voting). So of the 65, you have 7 muslims and 58 hindus. So pro-rated, for 100 people, you have approx 11 muslims and 89 hindus. Lets assume all muslims vote for congress. congress got 43 votes of which 32 came from hindus. thats 32/43 or 75% vote. Thats huge. It maybe even more, if we say that bjp gets 1-2 muslim votes. Now these yindoos voting fro congress are not dhimmi at all as we like to call them on BR. They very well know why they vote congress. Caste, money, freebies, vested interest, bjp's own share of faults, better local congress leader. and hazaar other reasons.

There a bunch of states in india which share a similar minority pop and adhere to the same calculation i have provided above

I am sick and tired of hearing that congress wins becos it gets minority votes. Neither do they win becos they get minority and sc/st vote. BJP also gets tribal/sc vote. If one wants to understand why congress is winning elections, better understand the hindus who vote for congress well.

The yindoo congressmen(or of other sicular parties) are not dhimmis, nor are the yindoo voting for them. They are just using the muslims to complete the cast-region-group matrix. They vote decisively en-masse(or atleast thats the legend) and all it costs them is some topi wearing and FUD. That the congress gets 20-25 % of their vote share from the minorities is very likely. But the % of minorities getting tickets, MLAs/MPs, ministers(or any real position of power) are not in the same proportion. Take for example the 2009 parliament which saw a big victory for the victory for the chief sicular coalition. It has only 28 muslim MPs, less than half of their proportion of the general population. This has been a pattern for quite some time, though it may be changing with the EJ at the helm of Congress.

[Hari Seldon]

from twitter, TIFWIW:

>>The Hindu Express ‏@thehinduexpress 49m
Confirmed. Priyanka Gandhi wants divorce from Vadra. Congress paid media allowed to mock Vadra and finally he will be kicked out from family

[Atri]

Jay ho, Rudradevacharya (I like that character and his interaction with vishnugupta from tv series, chanakya. I feel that is your inspiration)..

Had it not been for this, I would personally have agreed with Atri Gurudev's notion that it is better to wait until 2016 for a NaMo government, and allow the IndraAstra of total economic collapse to strike during an interim UPA-3 regime. However, under the circumstances I am not certain that any semblance of India will survive at all if the UPA is left in power that long.

This is not my wish (the 2016 one), Rudradev Garu. this is what I see happening. BJP is not in position to win 272 on its own, no matter who the PM candidate is. It requires a major breakthrough in regions like WB, AP and MH along with high score in UP, BR, MP, CG, RJ, GJ, KN.

To take inspiration from Thakur,"Loha abhi garam nahi hua hai". It requires to face lot of heat.

To modify a quote again from TV series when Vishnugupta speaks with Vararuchi in the end,"Magadh Nand-Vansh nahi hai, aur nand-vansh magadh nahi hai. Magadh is desh ka abhinna ang hai, nand-vansh to keval uska adhunik avtaar hai. Nand-Vansh ke pashchat bhi Magadh Magadh hi rahega"...

[muraliravi]

Rudradev ji,

All you are saying 100% correct. My only question is how will this new guard find it easier to win votes in c'garh than the old guard.

[Muppalla]

Rudradev ji,

in Chatisgargh, the vote gap increased wider between INC and BJP even in the last poll. It will be interesting to see if EJs and Maoists together can narrow it using anti-incumbency. Another thing is Raman Singh was successful to keep their strength confined to just Bastar district.

[Muppalla]

Murali, Rudradev and others,

even though you all utilized to news item "Delay of NaMo's PM candidacy declaration" to discuss Chattisgargh there are two things that happened in the BJP regarding the actual news. The actual news via PTI is planted by those who are still hoping to stop NaMo. In the meeting between RSS-BJP, Sushma pleaded to not insult her by declaring NaMo as PM candidate while she is still the leader of the opposition in LS. She seems to have pointed past history etc. Delaying tactics. Even after such pleas, as there is a fear of anytime declaration, some cabal inside and outside BJP is releasing such news plants.

[Arunkumar]

This time there is a satellite signal available for the rally coverage.

C Band
Frequency: 3893/3892
Symbol Rate: 2010
Satellite: INSAT 3A
FEC: ¾
Polarisation: Vertical (83 degrees South East)

http://www.narendramodi.in/narendra-mod ... -response/

y cant they start 24/7 news channel?

[harbans]

Utterly Gutterly Report delivers big blow to Modi : NM Does communal profiling at Eid !!!

[Virupaksha]

Rudradev ji,

in Chatisgargh, the vote gap increased wider between INC and BJP even in the last poll. It will be interesting to see if EJs and Maoists together can narrow it using anti-incumbency. Another thing is Raman Singh was successful to keep their strength confined to just Bastar district.

the vote diff between BJP and INC in 2008 was less than 2%

[muraliravi]

Rudradev ji,

in Chatisgargh, the vote gap increased wider between INC and BJP even in the last poll. It will be interesting to see if EJs and Maoists together can narrow it using anti-incumbency. Another thing is Raman Singh was successful to keep their strength confined to just Bastar district.

the vote diff between BJP and INC in 2008 was less than 2%

What Muppalla is referring to is that fact that while the vote share diff was 2.2% in 2008 elections, in LS 2009 the diff increased to 5%.

[SaiK]

why is that mall being an only entry to a masjid?

lesson: don't put masjid behind a mall? or don't mall around the masjid!!

[harbans]

Prologue: Some Industrialist gave this psec bimbo a good earful..here's her reply:

Dear Anonymous Leading Industrialist, You know who you are. I met you at a recent Mumbai party. You were three drinks down. You were tired and emotional. It was late.

Politics is always a tricky subject to discuss under these circumstances. But what the hell, we were old friends who liked the same American TV shows.

It began by us discussing the latest bit of news to emanate from the Narendra Modi camp. That he was hiring IIM grads to man his election campaign. You told me you'd lost two middle-level managers in the last week.

So far so good. I trotted out my standard befuddlement about the limited choice people like us had in the coming elections. An inefficient and scam-ridden incumbent versus a regressive communal challenger.

You jumped on the inefficient scam-ridden incumbent bit, of course. Your anger and frustration was palpable. The crumbling rupee, the international downgrades. The buttressing of personal Swiss accounts by politicians in power, they were all par for the course at parties like these.

I was prepared for the post-dinner vent. What took me by surprise was how you found no need to challenge, let alone apologise for my perception that your leader was anti-Muslim.

In fact the longer we spoke, the more alarming your diatribe became. From being somewhat feeble but sincere at expressing dismay over the state of things in our country on my part, it rapidly became a monologue in which you revealed the extent of your suspicion and resentment against Muslims.

Frankly it took my breath away. Not that you felt that way - but that we had reached a stage in our nation's life when men like you were not embarrassed to express hatred against a community or a class of people.

What left me shaken and stirred, and unable to sleep that night was that I was hearing these words not from a person who had horns on his head and went around with a pitchfork, but a person who had attended the best universities in the world, possessed one of the finest collections of jazz and shared my passion for St Emillons.

How could such a person not see the fallacy of discriminating against people or be unaware of the deep and dark consequences of that kind of thinking?

In that chilling half-hour of your diatribe against Muslims, I found myself thinking of Germany in the 1930s. Before the Holocaust and the killing of six million people. Before Auswitchz and gas chambers and the awful wounds of genocide. I wondered if there had been conversations like ours - and I wondered if there had been industrialists like you, who had lived to regret their words.

Because even though you expressed such a disturbing regressive streak, I still cling to the fact that it is only frustration that makes you talk like that. That beneath and beyond it you, like me, know that hatred and discrimination can never be the way out. That boundaries and walls of any kind diminish us. That wisdom lies in the strongest amongst us standing up for the weakest.

Forgive me if these cliches sound like the banners on a passing truck, or if what you describe as my bleeding heart, pseudo-liberal secularism sounds naïve and effete to your ears. Perhaps some day we will meet again and all my fears and apprehensions will have been proven to be misplaced and alarmist.

Till that day though, you will have to forgive me if I don't seek you out for such conversations. Or raise another glass of St Emillon with you.

Yours sincerely
Your average bleeding heart, pseudo- secularist.

Malavika Sangghvi is a Mumbai-based writer [email protected]

http://www.business-standard.com/articl ... 950_1.html

[Yagnasri]

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/hyderabad-un ... 37-64.html

Disturbing news for BJP and the feeling is almost same in Coastal AP. Sushma had gone too far with her speaches etc in support of Telangana and Hyderabad BJP leaders are also see repeatedly with TRS and naxals on Tv during agitation. People like Venkayya Naidu should have been more receptive to the people of costal district who elected him to state Assembly long back. Now he seems to think he is from Karnataka but yet tries to be powerful in his home areas of coastal AP at the same time. BJP may not get too much in Telangana and will get nothing in rest of AP in next 10 to 15 years.

Todays there is news that BJP and TDP may come together in Telangana which in long run is a very bad thing for BJP as CBN is 100 times of Nitish and is super sickular.

[johneeG]

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/hyderabad-un ... 37-64.html

Disturbing news for BJP and the feeling is almost same in Coastal AP. Sushma had gone too far with her speaches etc in support of Telangana and Hyderabad BJP leaders are also see repeatedly with TRS and naxals on Tv during agitation. People like Venkayya Naidu should have been more receptive to the people of costal district who elected him to state Assembly long back. Now he seems to think he is from Karnataka but yet tries to be powerful in his home areas of coastal AP at the same time. BJP may not get too much in Telangana and will get nothing in rest of AP in next 10 to 15 years.

Todays there is news that BJP and TDP may come together in Telangana which in long run is a very bad thing for BJP as CBN is 100 times of Nitish and is super sickular.

We are thinking similarly saar. The whole T-stand of Kongis has been designed to pre-empt any potential gains for lotus party through Modi in T region. But, kongis exposed themselves in coastal and rayalaseema. Lotus party, if it is intelligent, should take advantage of it and change its stand. There is already too much competition in T area for same block of votes(pro-separation). In this competition, Lotus has no chance. But, there is no competition for pro-united stance.

I think this is a rare opportunity and Lotus party would be mighty foolish to let it go.

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I think the present day dienasty are like the later moguls(after Aurangzeb). They are weak and are threatened from all sides. The only people whom they can threaten is Hindhus(that too common man). They are just surviving by the inertia, waiting for the next ruler to come and stake his claim on throne.

According to Bji, NAM was also brit sponsored and Nahru was playing to the script. IG broke through in 71. But she wanted to create desh into her personal domain. Roberto, it seems, was naive and foolish. And perhaps, he was just getting to understand the politics around him including itallion mare.

PVNR and Lal Bahadur seem to have been the unexpected indics who rose and made the difference. NDA's rise may also have been dramatic. But, it seems the itallion mare and her puppies were protected by ABV himself during NDA regime.

It seems many moles are injected and remain like sleeper cells for a long time and can get activated anytime. Perhaps, Roberto was about to kick out the mole which was injected into his family.

But, I think the most dangerous of all the dienasty was uncle ji. The present day itallions don't match him.

There is no doubt that the dienasty is on its way out. The problem is that they, in their weakness, will allow other anti-Hindhu and anti-desh entities to make serious injuries on desh. Of course, dienasty, itself is alien(both in pedigree and culture), so they will encourage the aliens and discourage the natives.
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Ex-Raw officer had written an article. Once that article is properly understood, the whole behaviour of kongis can be understood. Kongis are speaking the language of pakis on every issue. The latest is trying to shield the role of pakis in killing jawans on border. Saffron terror allegation and stand on samjhauta blast are also part of this scheme.

[Yagnasri]

can u pls post the link

[ramana]

Narayana Rao, I dont see how you see a role for BJP in AP? BJP in AP is led by regional leaders who dont even travel the length and breadth of the state. And even in their region they dont have much support.

[Hari Seldon]

^^True, bjp is zilch in AP. And will remain so for long. Fine.

Priority in Ap is not to get BJP hajaar seats but to prevent INC and its proxies much space there. A TDP is anyday preferable coz it won't align with INC in Dilli come what may. TDP neutrality may be much valued down the line.

[SaiK]

wasn't tdp (cbn) pulled down just because they did not care about aam class people and their needs?