Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

[Manish_Sharma]

ABV was too.

The very best no one can touch him:



This poem is on Atri ji's blog:
http://kalchiron.blogspot.in/2011/06/me ... payee.html
एक नहीं दो नहीं करो बीसों समझौते, पर स्वतन्त्र भारत का मस्तक नहीं झुकेगा ।

अगणित बलिदानो से अर्जित यह स्वतन्त्रता, अश्रु स्वेद शोणित से सिंचित यह स्वतन्त्रता ।
त्याग तेज तपबल से रक्षित यह स्वतन्त्रता, दु:खी मनुजता के हित अर्पित यह स्वतन्त्रता ।

इसे मिटाने की साजिश करने वालों से कह दो, चिनगारी का खेल बुरा होता है ।
औरों के घर आग लगाने का जो सपना, वो अपने ही घर में सदा खरा होता है ।

अपने ही हाथों तुम अपनी कब्र ना खोदो, अपने पैरों आप कुल्हाडी नहीं चलाओ।
ओ नादान पडोसी अपनी आँखे खोलो, आजादी अनमोल ना इसका मोल लगाओ।

पर तुम क्या जानो आजादी क्या होती है? तुम्हे मुफ़्त में मिली न कीमत गयी चुकाई ।
अंग्रेजों के बल पर दो टुकडे पाये हैं, माँ को खंडित करते तुमको लाज ना आई ?

अमरीकी शस्त्रों से अपनी आजादी को दुनिया में कायम रख लोगे, यह मत समझो ।
दस बीस अरब डालर लेकर आने वाली बरबादी से तुम बच लोगे यह मत समझो ।

धमकी, जिहाद के नारों से, हथियारों से कश्मीर कभी हथिया लोगे यह मत समझो ।
हमलो से, अत्याचारों से, संहारों से भारत का शीष झुका लोगे यह मत समझो ।

जब तक गंगा मे धार, सिंधु मे ज्वार, अग्नि में जलन, सूर्य में तपन शेष,
स्वातन्त्र्य समर की वेदी पर अर्पित होंगे अगणित जीवन यौवन अशेष ।

अमरीका क्या संसार भले ही हो विरुद्ध, काश्मीर पर भारत का सर नही झुकेगा
एक नहीं दो नहीं करो बीसों समझौते, पर स्वतन्त्र भारत का निश्चय नहीं रुकेगा ।

Ahem dedicated specially to Sushupti ji and Shri Sita Ram Goel.

[Sushupti]

Yes We Can!

Jokes apart Modi invoked this in 2004. Two years before anybody knew Obama.

[Atri]

thanks, sushupti ji.. this man is really an original diamond of India..

[SaiK]

request: for all those jootube links, would you guys mind musing a few text? 'cause many KB walas prevent jootube.. it takes time to reach home sometime to get some crux info., and many a times miss it. this will also give you guyz some oppty to share what you think about the video. e.g: i see only blank space.

[ShyamSP]

CBN(chandrababu naidu) is a clever politician. He does not want to be seen as been too close to BJP but at the same time does not want to loose the option of joining NDA if BJP crosses 200+. And also today some sites say that most of his TDP Mp's and MLA's want him to join NDA.

You cannot have your cake and eat it too all the time. If he has an alliance with BJP pre poll or post poll, then he cannot go back to sickularism. By the way Nitish was shunted, BJP wants an alliance this time on its terms. Any body who is in NDA this time means they are willing to forgo minority votes for ever. Perhaps we will see a consolidation of the small parties around Congress and BJP going forward.

TDP maintained equal relationship between BJP and CPI/CPM till 2004 (offline relationship after that) and people didn't have issue. NTR and CBN both maintained such relationship. It helped forge National Front in late 80s by NTR and United Front in mid 90s by CBN.

It seems now TDP#1 CBN is with Thirdfront psecism and CPI/CPM commism whereas TDP#2 BalaKrishna is with BJP. For TDP anti-congressism is important.

[Arjun]

Jokes apart Modi invoked this in 2004. Two years before anybody knew Obama.

Amazing!....you should spread this on Twitter.

[Sushupti]

Jokes apart Modi invoked this in 2004. Two years before anybody knew Obama.

Amazing!....you should spread this on Twitter.

It was a reply to Digvijay Singh from Vijay ‏@centerofright . It has already gone viral on twitter.



Also

Team Modi replies Digvijay Singh by putting year 2004 video online
http://deshgujarat.com/2013/08/12/team- ... eo-online/

I am worried about the mental health of Left-lib/Gungadins after this knockout punch from Modi. It was deliberate on his part when he invoked "Yes...will" knowing fully well that Gungadin lobby will mock him for mimicking Obama. But then he had his reply ready in the form of video.

[svenkat]

KO punch.Doggyvijay licking his wounds and who knows what else!

[Sushupti]

Sagarika wrote this, getting slapped left and right on twitter. and doesn't know what to do.

@sagarikaghose But why did the aspiring PM of mera mahan bharat need to copy Obama's campaign slogan?

[Sushupti]

[Sushupti]

I Wonder where are the LoPs?

Narendra Modi's letter to PM on Food Security Bill: full text

New Delhi: Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi has written to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh to oppose the government's flagship Food Security Bill which will entitles nearly 70 per cent of India's population to subsidised food.

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/naren ... ext-404890

[Sushupti]

Modi points out major deficiencies in NFSO in a letter to PM

Key deficiencies:

- Strangely, number of beneficiaries has been fixed in the ordinance without specifying eligibility criteria and fix individual entitlements. Between different States, there could be wide regional disparities.

- Even the Standing Committee of Parliament in January, 2013 recommended that that Government should formulate eligibility criteria in consultation with the State Governments. Sadly, the Central Government has chosen to ignore the recommendation of the Parliamentary Committee.

- Ordinance proposes to reduce the entitlement of BPL families from 35 kg per family to only 25 kg per average family of 5 persons. This cannot be the objective of any food security legislation which reduces the entitlement of those who have been identified as being below the poverty line.

- As per the proposed pricing structure for the foodgrain, the BPL family will now have to incur Rs. 85 more per month to avail 35 Kg foodgrain which they are getting without the ‘Right’.

- The proposed entitlement of 5 kg per month per person implies the supply of only 165 gm per person per day. Persons involved in labour intensive activities require about 2,500 calories per day. As 100 gm of food grain gives about 350 calorie, 165 gm would provide only 500 calories per day which is hardly 20% of one’s daily calorie requirements.

- Even in the Mid-day Meal scheme, school going children are entitled to about 150 gm of food grain, and 30 gm of dal for one meal i.e. about 180 gm of grain. As against this, an ‘adult food insecure person’ is proposed to be given only 165 gm for 2 meals per day. This does not address even the ‘calorific security’, not to talk about ‘nutritional security’, which is the main objective of food security.

- On the one hand, Planning Commission has been claiming reduction in the numbers of BPL families but under the Ordinance food support is provided to about 2/3 of the population. This illogicality requires to be discussed with States.

He said in the letter that poor families have been made ‘food insecure’ through this Ordinance. He requested the Prime Minister to call a meeting of Chief Ministers as it concerns both Centre and State Governments with huge implications.

http://deshgujarat.com/2013/08/12/modi- ... ter-to-pm/

[Sushupti]

This jackal (Panchatantra analogy, no foul language) crying for his master. What does it tell about the master?

[ramana]

If they let him in why not others!

[member_27444]

Keshav Memorial school is historically associated with Nationalist leaders and is one of the strong and old educational isntitution to have allowed RSS to practice in their grounds. SO is vivek Vardhani college, both have very strong affiliations with Marathi populace of twin cities.

[ramana]

Newsinsight.net writes on Modi trip to Hyderabad:

Hyderabad rhapsody!

Hyderabad rhapsody
Narendra Modi has given a glimpse of his masterly organizational skills.
By N.V. Subramanian (12 August 2013)
New Delhi: Narendra Modi has proved his critics and naysayers wrong again. They said the Congress’s creation of Telangana (at least on paper) had knocked the bottom out of his maiden venture in Andhra Pradesh. The pundits backing the Congress added that the losers of Seemandhra were livid at him and at the Bharatiya Janata Party for championing the cause of Telangana. Then they poured scorn on the Rs 5 ticket charged to attend Modi’s rally in Hyderabad prognosticating a flop show. The Gujarat chief minister ensured that their punditry came to nothing. And this will increasingly be the case as the country nears the general election.

The secret of Narendra Modi’s success lies in impeccable organization. For a political movement to spread and become successful, organization is critical. Failure and success depend on that. Modi’s training and long years with the Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangha have sharpened his organizational skills which have been further honed as the three-time chief minister of Gujarat. His administration of Gujarat has been splendid and this has contributed to his successive electoral victories. But it would constitute at most 55 per cent of the total. The remaining 45 per cent which has brought him unsurpassed victory has come from meticulous poll planning and organization.

Politicians usually know when they are winning or losing an election. They may not tell pollsters what they know because serious politicians usually reserve contempt for them and by and large discount opinion polls because so many of them are fixed. But the fact remains that politicians linked to the grassroots have a fair idea of their chances. It is their bread and butter. But Narendra Modi does still better. He usually plays down his advantage and consequently works harder at victory. His diligence is rarely manifested and the organization is thorough that leaves little to providence. For example, in the last Gujarat election, he had a good idea of the scale of victory, but his innate conservativeness pegged the tally at one or two seats less than it turned out.

To recall the Gujarat election, he was fighting elements from within the Bharatiya Janata Party (Lal Krishna Advani was stoking dissent from Delhi); the local leaderships of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad and the Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangha opposed Modi; and there were Keshubhai Patel’s splinter group, the Congress and the national media arrayed against him. This writer knows politicians in Delhi who were exulting at the prospect of Modi’s defeat because they were terrified of his shift to Central politics that would affect their venal livelihood. But he proved them in gross error. He plunged into the election as if he was surrounded by enemies and left no stone unturned for victory. He brought the same passion to the Hyderabad rally, although he worked with a non-Gujarat team, led by none other than the former Bharatiya Janata Party national president, Muppavarupu Venkaiah Naidu.

The big thing in an election is to convert massive turnouts at rallies into votes. Narendra Modi knows this fundamental of electoral politics only too well. As hard as he works on ensuring capacity crowds at his gatherings, he is equally and more industrious to turn them into votes. This is the result of Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangha training that many of his seniors and contemporaries in the central Bharatiya Janata Party have forgotten or disdainfully eschewed. Arun Jaitley and Sushma Swaraj are not from the Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangha stream and naturally lack such training, although after the 2004 defeat, the Sangha did advise Swaraj and Advani to bond closer with the cadres. Advani is not disconnected from the rank and file but his status does not permit the previous closeness nor is he at an age for energetic engagement of that kind. This puts Narendra Modi head and shoulders above the rest.

The opposition Congress, for its part, is in total organizational disarray. The Nehru-Gandhis are cut away from the intimacy of national politics and the Congress’s grassroots’ links are withering away. The leadership has become distant from the masses. The dynasty is aware but powerless to stop the drift which caused the monumental defeats in the assembly elections in Bihar and Uttar Pradesh. The Congress has no one like Modi to handle governance and election management with matching dexterity and ease. The Congress, in other words, has nobody to covert turnout into victory.

In previous elections, Narendra Modi did not get a free hand to manage the Bharatiya Janata Party’s election campaign. He has now. A collective leadership may be good but it is usually incapable of visionary enterprise. The abject state of the Congress is a good example. Vision is usually the creative thought product of an individual, who then needs a strong and purposive team to put it into effect. After all, you cannot have two presidents or prime ministers running a country, unless you wish to run it to the ground, as is now the case with India. In election management, the same rule applies. The cadres usually appreciate this faster and quicker than leaderships, because they make their own objective hierarchy of successful leaders, and know with certainty whom to follow. The cadres chose Narendra Modi to lead the election campaign and the Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangha was wise not to obstruct.

The cadres and the second- and third-line leaderships in the Bharatiya Janata Party are ecstatic with Modi’s ascent because they have got a sample of his successful formula. In the intervals that Narendra Modi is not addressing mass rallies, he would be micro-managing the 2014 general election campaign, and anyone who knows the man will tell you he has a very fair idea of where the polls are headed. His capacity to absorb details is astonishing and he often knows more about a region and its societal intricacies than local players do. He is a master of the political arithmetic and has an uncanny way of choosing the winning option. Hyderabad has given a mild savour of what he is capable of.

Too euphoric. He doesn't count all the ways Modi spread his message.

[Sushupti]

[vishvak]

Con race will just put a statue of Nehru parivar somewhere and that is about it. Con race don't care about which specific case for what statue - it's dynastic beyond reason or cause lest issue based credit is earned by anyone and punctures India equal con race idea.

[Sushupti]

Ignore the title.

BJP faces poll strategy conflict

New Delhi, Aug. 12: The BJP is up against a covert “Centre versus states” conflict in the prelude to strategy-making for the 2014 elections. The Delhi “high command” insists that the strategy sessions must be held in the national capital to save on time and to streamline logistics.

Narendra Modi, who heads the central campaign committee, is, however, keen that the Delhi brass step out of their confines, visit each state, sit with the leaders and office-bearers, hold detailed discussions and then come up with a state-specific draft.

“He believes, and rightly, that each state functions in a distinctive political environment and according to its imperatives. What holds true for one state may not apply to another. Therefore, the high command cannot come up with a common blueprint and expect each state to work in accordance with it,” a central office-bearer said.

However, general secretaries Ananth Kumar and Ramlal have had their way in the first round of the contest. Against Modi’s purported wish, they have planned to convene the first big sitting in Delhi on August 18.

Expected to be more of a “talking shop” consisting of “bhashans (lectures) delivered by leaders” than an interactive meeting in which state representatives would have an equal say, Modi will preside over the one-day affair.

The other central leaders, too, will be present. “The broad contours of our 2014 strategies have already been etched out. What we need to do is fine-tune these and tailor them according to regional requirements. That vital aspect will not be addressed,” a source said, adding that state invitees, who include the president and the general secretary, are unlikely to get more than 10 minutes each to speak.

The only concrete outcome the party expects is drawing up a campaign schedule for Modi and the others.

Sources said Modi — he has worked out of a state for the better part of his career — was “more in sync” with regional compulsions than Arun Jaitley and Sushma Swaraj, who have flitted in and out of states to supervise the party organisation, campaign for elections or contest polls.

The early sign of a discord arose because so far a central leader has always been the convener of a campaign committee and operated from Delhi. In 2004, the late Pramod Mahajan shifted base from his home state, Maharashtra, to the national capital early on in his innings. In 2009, the job went to Jaitley.

Modi’s ascendancy — unlike Mahajan and Jaitley, he has been designated chairman — has thrown the established “Centre-state” equations “slightly out of gear”, a source said. The Delhi cabal was used to “taking orders” from the incumbent party president or L.K. Advani and “certainly not a regional satrap”, the source added.

“Modi is fighting so many internal battles against party heavyweights that he went along with Ananth and Ramlal this time. He didn’t want to make a prestige issue of this. Soon enough, he will go to each state and confer with the local leaders,” a source said.

Ananth, who was expected to be consigned to limbo after the BJP’s Karnataka debacle, has inveigled himself in the dispensation, helmed by Rajnath Singh and Modi. With Advani and Sushma, he was held responsible in Karnataka and by Delhi for forcing B.S. Yeddyurappa out of the BJP and scoring a self-goal in the process.

Sources said Ananth ingratiated himself with the RSS and the low-key Ramlal, who as general secretary (organisation), functions as the BJP’s principal conduit of information to the Sangh.

On August 17, the spokespersons of the state units will attend a media workshop that will be addressed by Modi, Sushma, Jaitley and Rajnath. The focus will be on “understanding the galvanising” social networking sites because, a source said, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn etc increasingly have language users apart from those in English.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1130813/j ... glp86yVuYQ

[muraliravi]

^^ why ignore the title. These damn rootless are hell bent on destroying bjp. Kick ananth kumar out and bring yeddy back and ask him to coordinate karnataka.

[Pranav]

Pranavji, plijj do tell. After batla house nonsense your hero is now going to storm into power with jhadu?

Bhaat ijj thish? Have been in hibernation.

If you have any official sources let us know. Something better than wordpress blogs of unknown authenticity.

[Sushupti]

Those not used to twitter, read in reverse order i.e. bottom to top for flow.

[Sushupti]

Rahman Khan urges Rahul to bring Islamic banking on 2014 agenda

minority affairs minister Rahman Khan has told the Congress leadership that Muslims were increasingly viewing Centre's continuing resistance to the introduction of Shariah-compliant banking as interference in the affairs of the community.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 791584.cms

[muraliravi]

Those not used to twitter, read in reverse order i.e. bottom to top for flow.

I still see no progress on the following

1. Yeddy return or alliance ( after some reports 3-4 weeks ago, no further movement)
2. Marandi (no progress)
3. AGP (no progress)
4. Patch up between MNS and SS (no progress)
5. INLD (saw a statement from Abhay chautala that he will support modi, but no pre-poll alliance, but i guess he will come around)

any insider info on the above will be appreciated.

[Gus]

This jackal (Panchatantra analogy, no foul language) crying for his master. What does it tell about the master?

well if mahatma gandhi were in good health and able to express his views, he would have said 'vellayane veliyeru' (quit india) to SG.

..

how long will people be in denial that the times of ABV is long gone and LKA is soon to get there...

[Neela]

Pranavji, plijj do tell. After batla house nonsense your hero is now going to storm into power with jhadu?

Bhaat ijj thish? Have been in hibernation.

If you have any official sources let us know. Something better than wordpress blogs of unknown authenticity.

Who is "us"?
What official sources? A simple search will tell that your mentol and gleat reader Chorjriwal called Batla house encounter fake and had egg on his face after the verdict. All you can do now is hide behind "official sources" and claim unknown authenticity. It is quite silly and to be honest it is plain deceit / outright lying. And you guys have the gall to lead a party on the corruption plank. Even the cap that AAP monkeys wear is taken from Anna Hazare. You play the communal card just like COngress and you have the cheek to come here and claim you are clean. Boy that is rich. And when everything else fails, you resort to "official sources/proper channels" b$ when it is evident to everyone that is just a cheap escape hatch to hide the embarrassment. Entire twitter was on it , every newspaper carried the story. You are delusional.

[Pranav]

Bhaat ijj thish? Have been in hibernation.

If you have any official sources let us know. Something better than wordpress blogs of unknown authenticity.

Who is "us"?
What official sources? A simple search will tell that your mentol and gleat reader Chorjriwal called Batla house encounter fake and had egg on his face after the verdict. All you can do now is hide behind "official sources" and claim unknown authenticity. It is quite silly and to be honest it is plain deceit / outright lying. And you guys have the gall to lead a party on the corruption plank. Even the cap that AAP monkeys wear is taken from Anna Hazare. You play the communal card just like COngress and you have the cheek to come here and claim you are clean. Boy that is rich. And when everything else fails, you resort to "official sources/proper channels" b$ when it is evident to everyone that is just a cheap escape hatch to hide the embarrassment. Entire twitter was on it , every newspaper carried the story. You are delusional.

Whoa there, take it easy.

As it happens I did notice some video posted on this matter, after the post that I replied to.

Sure, AK & Co better have very strong evidence before making such claims, and it is up to them to present it.

And why bring me into the issue? As one has made amply clear, one is interested in agendas not individuals. Simple point, but fanatics don't seem to get it. One can support systemic anti-corruption measures independently of issues like Batla.

[Arjun]

As one has made amply clear, one is interested in agendas not individuals.

Absolutely the right way to go. But the agenda has to be holistic, and not unreasonably narrow - as Kejriwal's has tended to be.

[Gus]

Sure, AK & Co better have very strong evidence before making such claims, and it is up to them to present it.

And why bring me into the issue? As one has made amply clear, one is interested in agendas not individuals. Simple point, but fanatics don't seem to get it. One can support systemic anti-corruption measures independently of issues like Batla.

imo, you can't.

when you give in to vote bank compulsions and risk your integrity, you risk your integrity elsewhere too.

politics is compromises and if you don't bend, you will be broken. that is understood. but you can't give in to anti-national, fear-mongering and appeasing type bending. to me, that is not a compromise i can overlook.

[Pranav]

Sure, AK & Co better have very strong evidence before making such claims, and it is up to them to present it.

And why bring me into the issue? As one has made amply clear, one is interested in agendas not individuals. Simple point, but fanatics don't seem to get it. One can support systemic anti-corruption measures independently of issues like Batla.

imo, you can't.

when you give in to vote bank compulsions and risk your integrity, you risk your integrity elsewhere too.

politics is compromises and if you don't bend, you will be broken. that is understood. but you can't give in to anti-national, fear-mongering and appeasing type bending. to me, that is not a compromise i can overlook.

Sure, if you are in politics and your credibility suffers on one issue, it does reflect on you overall, and it should be that way.

But as an outsider, one can support some points that somebody is raising, even if one may not agree with them on other issues.

[Neela]

And why bring me into the issue?

Hey, you mentioned the word "us". Do you want sources for that?

Sure, if you are in politics and your credibility suffers on one issue, it does reflect on you overall, and it should be that way.
But as an outsider, one can support some points that somebody is raising, even if one may not agree with them on other issues.

And now you are an "outsider"?

As it happens I did notice some video posted on this matter, after the post that I replied to.

...yeah....sure...from denial to admission in a matter of a few posts. What happened to proper research , point by point analysis advice that you dish out to the rest? Not applicable to you, your highness?

"us" in one post and "outsider" in another in a matter of a an hour. No wonder your credibility is fake .

There was only one correct stance here - to wait for the verdict from the judiciary. And neither did Kejriwal nor you say that even once. After having fallen into the mess, you panic , question the sources, claim to have not seen the "evidence" , and finally "disassociate" by calling yourself an outsider. Simple unraveling.

[harbans]

Someone posted this on the "Yes we can.." issue.

It was American Indian born adviser after seen Modi's slogan in 2014 (means 2004) rally in Gujarat,he advice Obama's team to mix-match Modi's slogan and use it in presidential rally in 2008. credit should go to Modi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... HB7cYQ10Yw

[Pranav]

And why bring me into the issue?

Hey, you mentioned the word "us". Do you want sources for that?

See what I wrote. "us" means the readers here.

Sure, if you are in politics and your credibility suffers on one issue, it does reflect on you overall, and it should be that way.
But as an outsider, one can support some points that somebody is raising, even if one may not agree with them on other issues.

And now you are an "outsider"?

certainly

As it happens I did notice some video posted on this matter, after the post that I replied to.

...yeah....sure...from denial to admission in a matter of a few posts. What happened to proper research , point by point analysis advice that you dish out to the rest? Not applicable to you, your highness?

"us" in one post and "outsider" in another in a matter of a an hour. No wonder your credibility is fake .

There was only one correct stance here - to wait for the verdict from the judiciary. And neither did Kejriwal nor you say that even once. After having fallen into the mess, you panic , question the sources, claim to have not seen the "evidence" , and finally "disassociate" by calling yourself an outsider. Simple unraveling.

You are hyperventilating. All that happened was that I replied to a post, then I saw another post on that subject after a few minutes.

[Neela]

You are hyperventilating. All that happened was that I replied to a post, then I saw another post on that subject after a few minutes.

One policeman died in the encounter. Yet Kejriwal had no qualms in trying to milk that issue. That speaks volumes.

[Hari Seldon]

Sonia Should Not be Held Responsible for Vadra: BSP,SP

Yawn.

[Shanmukh]

Sonia Should Not be Held Responsible for Vadra: BSP,SP

Yawn.

CBI hard at work?

[Sushupti]

‏@vinod_sharma Indisputable confirmation--for those who don't believ Shourie--that Cong and BJP(under D4) are one party"

[Muppalla]

Anna Hazare is going to US to popularize his anti-corruption crusade.

[Singha]

TOI had published a page1 news that a Ahmedabad mall had denied entry to muslims on Id by charging them Rs 20 to enter and get it reimbursed if they purchased anything.

turns out it was applicable to all people regardless of religion. another fake sikular news.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 4964_n.jpg

[James B]