Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 14 Aug 2013 09:00

Loved the way Brit MP put her in place towards the end and she was left blabbering telling him, we even question SC but we can't say ouch when it comes to dynasty..Oops!!

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 14 Aug 2013 09:01

Let me take a slightly differing stance on the matter...

The focus of NaMo till the elections has to be totally on winning - and nothing else.

IF a trip to the UK can be played up in a manner that it can help improve perceptions and assist his chances further in winning - taking 2 days off for a trip to Blighty may not be a bad idea.

On the other hand, if the UK trip will do nothing for his domestic chances - he obviously should not waste his time.

But that is a call he and his advisers need to make.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 14 Aug 2013 09:06

No going abroad before becoming PM. IMVHO

sum · Post by **sum** » 14 Aug 2013 09:12

VikasRaina wrote:Loved the way Brit MP put her in place towards the end and she was left blabbering telling him, we even question SC but we can't say ouch when it comes to dynasty..Oops!!

Pathetic state of our country when brits have to instill common sense into our DDM!

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 14 Aug 2013 09:18

panduranghari wrote:
Kakkaji wrote: The whole parliament will have to be changed to clean out the corrupt.
Not only it does what you want, the reverberations last longer than the immediate effect that's seen.

One free from France with each Rafale purchase?

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 14 Aug 2013 09:29

panduranghari wrote:Not only it does what you want, the reverberations last longer than the immediate effect that's seen.

That looks quiet

new. Matches natural oak floors of our house. May be I should get one.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 14 Aug 2013 09:49

Muppalla wrote:No going abroad before becoming PM. IMVHO

the archaic definition abroad is "in error", so he fits the bill in no going in error.

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 14 Aug 2013 10:20

Gus wrote:
Yes. And the answer is don't travel. Perfect.

Have we removed all Sikhs from being bodyguards to anybody?

How about no garlanding ever of anybody.

I am a bit tired of the "oh noes!!!" and the "modi better be careful, I hate to say I told you so, but I am telling you now" and assorted ridiculous paranoia like "don't go to Delhi" etc.

Even if you add such folks to ignore list, the thread becomes (paraphrasing nayakuddin) a toilet floor littered with crap that you have to avoid stepping on....

Gus
Are the recent murders of BJP leaders in TN also normal incidents that require no precaution from the senior party members there. ? What about Ishrat's motives? The point here is that a counter movement that takes on insipid GAndhi clan requires a person with a stature like MOdi and any risk to him risks the future of the country. 9 years it all it took to run the economy to the ground. Maybe you think it is paranoia but not many people disagree with this view. Even a book is being luanched in Mumbai shaming this period.

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 14 Aug 2013 10:39

ok..i am sold. the UK is in a vast and deep conspiracy to invite modi to kill him over there. next.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 14 Aug 2013 10:44

Why would anyone visit country like UK. Even Sonia has not visited UK ever and she is not even mayor of a town by political responsibilities.

rajithn · Post by **rajithn** » 14 Aug 2013 10:45

Gus wrote:ok..i am sold. the UK is in a vast and deep conspiracy to invite modi to kill him over there. next.

Well, I have a different take. While not belittling the threat he faces to his safety, going abroad should be after winning. There is a large enough constituency here that needs to hear him, believe in him and convert that belief into votes in 2014. The BJP rank and file need his guidance and 'micro-management' to make sure that " besides the wind blowing at 120Kmph, they still need to fill air in the tyre separately". "Congress Mukht Bharat Nirman", as we are all aware, is not going to be a cakewalk. The British Houses of commons and lords can wait! Would you agree?

And why jump at the English invitation? Again firangi endorsement? NaMo doesnt need that.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 14 Aug 2013 10:55

^^Lol! Clearly someone likes to repeatedly wade into what he/she self-describes as

(paraphrasing nayakuddin) a toilet floor littered with crap that you have to avoid stepping on....

Having insulted everyone who have participated on this dhaga, gas has to return (even if on a slightly lower high horse).... to deliberately continue to do favors on the same bunch he/she so gratuitiously insulted only.

Yeah, I know I should stop calling out arsolelry but couldn't resist calling it out one last time. jai ho.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 14 Aug 2013 11:30

Gus wrote: well if mahatma gandhi were in good health and able to express his views, he would have said 'vellayane veliyeru' (quit india) to SG.

Too good of a post to ignore without offering some simple smilies

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 14 Aug 2013 11:45

Coming: NaMo with wife & wiggle

Interesting !

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 14 Aug 2013 11:47

Gus wrote:ok..i am sold. the UK is in a vast and deep conspiracy to invite modi to kill him over there. next.

Yes, let us ask Gen.Brar shall we? And you really think British intelligence do not have tabs on Khali scum? Please....
The point is, the stakes are very high here and almost all hope rests on Modi. I do not see why this is so difficult to fathom?

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 14 Aug 2013 11:48

Modi should definitely visit the UK: Stop the Visit of Narendra Modi to the UK! Remember the Gujarat genocide of 2002

It would be unfair on his part to deprive us of world-class tamasha !!

geeth · Post by **geeth** » 14 Aug 2013 11:56

Who are the Brits to deny him visa first and then invite him as they like? May be they are still having colonial hangovers..but, do some of the members still feel they are British subjects and their loyalty has to be with Union Jack? Don't tell me Brits are inviting Modi out of love

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 14 Aug 2013 12:17

This is some turnaround..hmmm

"Narendrabhai is (among) the longest-serving chief ministers of his generation. He is also CM of a state with which Britain has more FDI than the rest of India," Gardiner told TOI.

"Just because he is from the BJP does not mean he isn't secular. Look at Atal Bihari Vajpayee. Did he rule as a divisive character? Was he a bad prime minister? Both Modi and Vajpayee are respectful of the (Indian) constitution. India was earlier a regional power. It's now a global power. In this century, it can become a superpower. It's, therefore, of utmost importance to hear the views of a man who has had so much influence on the country's events," Gardiner said.

"Whether or not Modi goes on to become India's next prime minister, nobody can deny he is clearly one of India's most influential political actors. Hence, his view on how he wants to see India in the near future is of great interest to the UK and Europe," Gardiner added.

Modi has been invited to visit the House of Commons and deliver a lecture for a select group of top MPs on what he envisages should be the future of modern India. Gardiner is also a shadow minister. The influential Labour organisation works to further links between the Labour Party and India.

"I would like you to speak about 'The Future of Modern India'. Of course I understand how busy the current period is for you with the Indian elections next year, so please regard this invitation as being for any time that is convenient to you over the next months."

Gardiner said Modi's "integrity, ability to administer and govern and strategic political thinking is of the highest order". He called him "a secular leader who has the overwhelming support of all communities in Gujarat... proven time and time again in state elections".

"I have met politicians from across the world and I rank him on the pinnacle of all political leaders I have known," Gardiner said. "His competence to govern is unbelievable."

Asked whether Modi is capable of governing India, Gardiner said, "Gujarat is the size of the UK or any European country. Since he has taken the state to the highest pinnacles of growth, it's easy to see him as the head of the UK or any European country."

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 811288.cms

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 14 Aug 2013 12:36

Narendrabhai ??

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 14 Aug 2013 12:42

Wow, I just cannot imagine how disgusting Nidhi was with the British MP. Seriously, these guys stoop to any level. If she has so many issues with Modi, she has all rights to fight inside India, to beg a foreign MP? It is pathetic. She cut him off quickly.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 14 Aug 2013 12:44

Indian Sick-ular anchors pleading with any Gora to say something negative about NaMo. Kuch to bol do Baba !!!

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 14 Aug 2013 13:21

In an internal meeting, L.K. Advani argued that “personal attacks” against politicians’ family members were not on and that too in the House where the person named was not present to defend himself. Sushma Swaraj, the Lok Sabha Opposition leader, endorsed Advani’s view while her Rajya Sabha counterpart, Arun Jaitley, had reportedly “reluctantly” conceded.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia: ... al_attacks

So how is raising Vadra issue in the Parliament a 'personal attack' ? Vadra is connected to two very powerful people in INC, so raising awareness or expecting investigation is not personal attack? Seriously either he is helping INC, has some misguided notions or is being blackmailed by INC.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Aug 2013 13:26

thats likely because ABV and LKA have some relatives with dubious business deals. no wonder they buy the mutual omerta pact.

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 14 Aug 2013 13:30

modi will engage with uk or whoever from a position of strength and self belief. something that is sorely needed for some postors here.

only.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 14 Aug 2013 13:32

http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 7#p1468567
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 9#p1487559

Serioulsy, mommy mommy BJP is reading BRF and they copied my idea

Any body look at the title of the recently announced BJP Charge sheet. Should'nt BRF get the credit. I am convinced Modi team is reading this dhaaga. 400% guarantee. Modi email me at ......

Arunkumar · Post by **Arunkumar** » 14 Aug 2013 13:37

Modi must engage, marry and have kids with UK, only after accomplishing his dream of Congress Mukht Bharat.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 14 Aug 2013 13:40

And Modi can do a tele-conference no? Imagine UK politicians viewing a giant screen with Modi talking about growth. I suggest Wimbledon Village, the stadium has large screens, and the MPs can sit on lawn chairs, no?

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 14 Aug 2013 14:16

Lets move on shall we. Modi has 100 visits lined up and the first one started off in Hyd. on Aug 11th.

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 14 Aug 2013 15:42

krishnan wrote:Narendrabhai ??

Barry Gardiner is an MP and his constituency includes Wembley. Wembley has a huge Gujarati diaspora and many very good vegetarian Gujarati thali restaurants. He is currently in opposition. Lib-Dems and Tories are more likely to loose in 2015 than not. Gardiner obviously is appealing to his Gujarati constituents but perhaps hopes for a plum posting from ed milliband if Labour win in 2015.

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 14 Aug 2013 16:32

I hope if Modi becomes the PM, he has the courage to withdraw from the institution called british commonwealth. That move alone will be enough to show British what we think of them.

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 14 Aug 2013 17:03

Vadra issue being raised on Sonia's command:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater

A big dispute has arisen between Sonia Gandhi and her son-in-law Robert Vadra over property worth 1 lakh crores. Priyanka's relations with vadra aren't good these days so sonia is having noose tightened on him.

Does that mean Yashwant Sinha's raising the matter

is on maino's command?

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 14 Aug 2013 17:12

Whichever way asura dies, it should be allowed to happen. The wheels within wheels are difficult to comprehend.. does not matter who is YS listening to.. everything should be linked to Sonia and Priyanka by the nationalists. because, they are linked.. all three-four should go..

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 14 Aug 2013 17:16

adharmic ways will find adharmic ends for asurics.. so encourage them by pointing dharmic ways adopted by dharmics, and put a map of the negatives against each other. the more such information is projected, the weight of asuras will increase on themselves.

Virendra · Post by **Virendra** » 14 Aug 2013 17:17

krishnan wrote:Narendrabhai ??

Brits gone full-on Gujju

Time for UK mullahs to cry "appeasement". Karma ran full circle ?
By the way, no one invites anyone out of love. It's all power and politics. Modi knows better and he can take the decision himself, if its comes to that.

Regards,
Virendra

Virendra · Post by **Virendra** » 14 Aug 2013 17:36

http://www.theunrealtimes.com/2013/07/1 ... st-remark/

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 14 Aug 2013 18:19

पीएम के साथ मेरे भाषण पर भी होगी लोगों की नजरः मोदी

अहमदाबाद।। गुजरात के मुख्यमंत्री नरेंद्र मोदी गुरुवार को प्रधानमंत्री मनमोहन सिंह के स्वतंत्रता दिवस भाषण को लेकर उन पर सीधा हमला बोलेंगे। मोदी ने पीएम के लाल किले से दिए जाने वाले भाषण से एक दिन पहले ही इसका खुला ऐलान कर डाला है।

भुज में एक कार्यक्रम में युवाओं को संबोधित करते हुए मोदी ने प्रधानमंत्री के लाल किले से दिए जाने वाली भाषण की तुलना अपने लालन कॉलेज से दिए जाने वाले भाषण से कर डाली। मोदी ने कहा, 'कल (स्वतंत्रता दिवस) देश यह जानने के लिए आतुर होगा कि लाल किले और लालन कॉलेज से क्या कहा जा रहा है।'

मोदी ने कहा, 'लालन कॉलेज के मैदान पर कल जब हम तिरंगा फहराएंगे, तो लाल किले पर भी सीधे-सीधे संदेश जाएगा। देश आतुर होगा यह यह जानने के लिए कि लाल किले से क्या कहा जा रहा है और लालन कॉलेज से क्या कहा जा रहा है।'

मोदी ने कहा कि कल जब पीएम लाल किले की प्राचीर से यूपीए सरकार की 'कोरी' उपलब्धियों को गिना रहे होंगे, तो भुज के लालन कॉलेज से वह अपने 'ठोस' काम का हिसाब दे रहे होंगे। मोदी ने कहा, 'एक तरफ वादों की बातें होंगी तो दूसरी तरफ किए गए कामों का हिसाब होगा। एक तरह निराशा का अंधकार होगा, तो दूसरी तरफ आशा का संचार होगा।'

मोदी ने अपने भाषण में पीएम पर निशाना साधते हुए कहा, 'क्या किसी ने सोचा था कि रण में से डॉलर उग सकता है? पीएम भले ही आपके पेड़ पर पैसे नहीं उगते, लेकन हम रण में डॉलर उगाते हैं। ये रण पहले से था, उन्हें नहीं दिखा, लेकिन मुझे दिखा। दिव्य गुजरात के निर्माण के लिए हम सब काम कर रहे हैं।'

गुजरात के मुख्यमंत्री बनने के बाद मोदी स्वतंत्रता दिवस समारोह जिला मुख्यालयों पर आयोजित करते आ रहे हैं। इस बार 15 अगस्त को राज्यस्तरीय स्वतंत्रता दिवस समारोह कच्छ में होगा। कच्छ जिला मुख्यालय भुज के लालन कॉलेज परिसर में मोदी झंडा फहराएंगे।

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 14 Aug 2013 18:19

Atri wrote:Whichever way asura dies, it should be allowed to happen. The wheels within wheels are difficult to comprehend.. does not matter who is YS listening to.. everything should be linked to Sonia and Priyanka by the nationalists. because, they are linked.. all three-four should go..

Satya vachan, Atri ji!

Seeing Nidhi Razdan's open protest against UK mp's decision, I think in this matter Die-nasty's personal channel like NDTV are going to come out more and more defending sonia-raul-bianca more and more, that will be the time when they'll stand exposed completely. So hopefully with these 3-4 we'll see the end of die-nasty bhakts like ndtv, cnn-ibn & ht etc. too!
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I can understand the corrupt channels like NDTV, barkha dutt, sardesai, shekhar gupta & vinod sharma want to this thick gravy train to continue so they fight to protect their ann-daata sarkaar of UPA.

Though one thing surprises me, that zest with which dynasty empire itself is fighting to stay in power.

Are they afraid that once they lose the power it'll be the end of them? There will be no PVNR, ABV, BM or LKA to protect them? There seems to NO sense of defeat that ok, they'll comeback in 2019 or something. They don't seem resigned to the fact that come 2014 and they go. Finito!

member_22539 · Post by **member_22539** » 14 Aug 2013 18:42

Virendra wrote:http://www.theunrealtimes.com/2013/07/1 ... st-remark/

You guys are gonna give a stroke to someone, laughing this hard can't be good for ones health.

hanumadu · Post by **hanumadu** » 14 Aug 2013 19:13

Dhananjay wrote:Vadra issue being raised on Sonia's command:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater

A big dispute has arisen between Sonia Gandhi and her son-in-law Robert Vadra over property worth 1 lakh crores. Priyanka's relations with vadra aren't good these days so sonia is having noose tightened on him.

Does that mean Yashwant Sinha's raising the matter is on maino's command?

Its all smoke and mirrors folks. We have been hearing for some time about relations between Priyanka and Vadra not being well, but nothing came of it and nothing will come of it. What ever Vadra is accumulating goes to Sonia's progeny only. Where's the scope for dispute? Unless of course Rahul is not happy with his cut and went complaining to mama.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 14 Aug 2013 19:20

Nidhi's regurgitation should teach us something about the education which turns these people into such robotic haters of Bharat. There has been much talk that we should stick to basics and not bother about "useless" things like changing the fundamentals or the paradigm. Problem with that is this system is adept at turning out Nidhis and also ensuring they rise to the top of the ladder into the most visible roles.