Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

member_27444 · Post by **member_27444** » 09 Aug 2013 08:22

In Up
Gobind Vallabh pant

kamalapathi Tripathi

H N Bahuguna

Till ND Tiwari Brahmos ruled up

Kriplanis are strange like James Karvel and Mary Matlin

Sucheta Kriplani was INC and husband Acharya Kriplani moved from INC to socialist party
He was fantastic debater and a batter of Nehru.

In the run up to being free India PM he was second highest voted candidate after Sardar Patel
You know what MKG did and rest is ....

kshatriya · Post by **kshatriya** » 09 Aug 2013 14:05

AMMA turning Secular... This will be the beginning of her end...

Jayalalithaa wants Centre to include SC Christians in SC list

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/t ... epage=true

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 09 Aug 2013 17:49

Nope, There is no Hindu vote in TN. so she is being smart. Karunanidhi has put chappals on Sri Rama's photos and called Hindus robbers, yet a large chunk vote DMK. So I think Amma is playing smart as we have seen from the past. Minorities will rally around religious benefits, majority are caste based.

kshatriya · Post by **kshatriya** » 09 Aug 2013 19:58

^^ Things are now different in TN... Several caste groups are allying together... If BJP ties with PMK+ allied caste groups, It won't be easy for JJ to win.

Comer · Post by **Comer** » 09 Aug 2013 20:16

^^ This has been always a mystery to me. The people in the state are as religious as any other, atleast a small temple on alternate streets and quite open about their faith. But come politics, most of the folks are nonchalant about politicians abusing Hinduism.
EDIT: Of course caste matters but this is orthogonal to caste.

kshatriya · Post by **kshatriya** » 10 Aug 2013 10:10

That is because DMk/AIADMK has local caste leaders who convince the voters irrespective of the secular BS that comes from chennai

VinodTK · Post by **VinodTK** » 11 Aug 2013 05:38

LoC killings: Another minister embarrasses Nitish Kumar by giving Pakistan clean chit

Jamui (Bihar): After the controversy over statement by Bihar Minister Bhim Singh on the killing of five Indian soldiers along LoC, his colleague in Nitish government has now raised hackles by giving a clean chit to Pakistan over the issue.

"I don't believe that Pakistan is responsible for the incident (killing of five Indian soldiers by Pakistani army on the LoC in Poonch district) on Tuesday," Agriculture minister Narendra Singh on Saturday said, in remarks which come as further embarrassment for the Nitish Kumar led JD(U) government.

"Pakistan is our younger brother and a neighbour," he commented when asked about the firing incident in which jawans of 21st Bihar Regiment were killed when they were patrolling along LoC on Tuesday last. Four of the five army men killed were from Bihar.
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On Thursday, Rural Works and Panchayati Raj Minister Bhim Singh had said that policemen and soldiers are recruited to make sacrifices for the nation, for which he later apologised after his comments created a furore.:
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Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 11 Aug 2013 11:03

Does IA has sharp shooters of lone wolf kind ? Do they run black-ops kind of operation ?
Just wondering...

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 11 Aug 2013 11:07

^^^

JD U is trying to be more paki then paki. In order to get sikular votes.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 11 Aug 2013 11:26

How on earth do you get Muslim votes by insulting your own soldiers and state dwellers ? How ? How ?
Do they think that a Indian Muslim would feel good and happy if you denigrate a fallen soldier. What evils have we performed in past lives to deserve this kind of legislatures.

Guess we are worse than those folks at westbro baptist church.

kapilrdave · Post by **kapilrdave** » 11 Aug 2013 12:17

kshatriya wrote:That is because DMk/AIADMK has local caste leaders who convince the voters irrespective of the secular BS that comes from chennai

No. That is because of the lack of any Hindu leader to check them. I've said this before, there is huge Hindu votebank to capture across the nation, but sadly there was no taker till recently. The moment NM showed his steel, the entire nation is with him. INC and alikes may still win this election, but he is doing an all important job of awakning the Hindu pride and makes sure their voice is heard and are counted in the equation.

Virendra · Post by **Virendra** » 11 Aug 2013 15:58

Just realized that Rajasthan elections are barely 3 months away and national ones 9 ... Exciting !!

Sagar G · Post by **Sagar G** » 11 Aug 2013 16:48

VikasRaina wrote:How on earth do you get Muslim votes by insulting your own soldiers and state dwellers ? How ? How ?
Do they think that a Indian Muslim would feel good and happy if you denigrate a fallen soldier. What evils have we performed in past lives to deserve this kind of legislatures.

Guess we are worse than those folks at westbro baptist church.

Politicians aren't exactly fools unlike what people here love to believe. They must be getting votes from certain communities by doing what they are doing otherwise they wouldn't have cared much to make any kind of statement about it. You seem to have forgotten a recent incident (for the sake of "secularism" I guess) so here's a pictorial reminder

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 11 Aug 2013 17:26

Guys any idea what the exact date in May 2014 the General elections will be held?

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 11 Aug 2013 17:36

^^A year on, not a penny recovered from Azad Maidan rioters
link

“An address given to us by the Mumbai police for organisers Maulana Ahmed Raza of Madinatul Ilm and Syed Noori of Raza Academy turned out to be bogus.

Secular situation for heathens to run around and recover dues.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 12 Aug 2013 08:23

Is Babu-dom and Police so spineless that they can not stand up to their political masters even when faced with grave provocation.
After all they can make Mango Indian to go around in circles till thy kingdom or Gandhiji come but wag their tails and lick feet of masters.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 12 Aug 2013 09:04

Yes. The only leeway is when elections are declared and EC promulgates the orders under the President's dispensation.

James B · Post by **James B** » 12 Aug 2013 19:12

Interesting development

Move to side-line Jogi: Is Congress heading for a split in Chhattisgarh?

Fissures within the leadership of Chhattisgarh's opposition Congress are widening, threatening a split in the main opposition party just few months ahead of the upcoming assembly polls in the state.

Matters have reached a head between rival factions, led by state's first chief minister Ajit Jogi a mass leader with pan-Chhattisgarh support base, and state's PCC chief Dr Charandas Mahant and other leaders at the helm of organization after Jogi embarked on a five a day tour-virtually throwing the gauntlet to his political adversaries. Mahant and other party leaders have been trying to side-line and isolate Jogi; apparently with the tacit support of few central leaders.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 14 Aug 2013 12:49

Harayana is the only state where I would want to see the principal opposition party i.e. INLD get decimated either by Congress or by BJP+HJP.
BJP somehow should not prop up INLD. Congress is corrupt but INLD has been Corrupter in chief with no resulting benefit of development to the state.

ashashi · Post by **ashashi** » 14 Aug 2013 16:08

Delhi hit by massive poll scam: Election commission unearths 13 lakh bogus voters and over 80,000 valid voter cards for dead people

The office of the Delhi Chief Election Commissioner has uncovered a massive electoral scam involving the use of forged documents to obtain voter identity cards for suspected Bangladesh nationals, 13 lakh bogus voters and inflated voter numbers per family in about 20,000 households.

Huge irregularities have been unearthed in the old electoral rolls of the city, resulting in the deleting of the names of about 13 lakh bogus voters from the old list over the last few months.

Surprisingly, during a revision exercise, officials found over 80,000 valid voter cards for dead people. The election office is now engaged in a summary revision. The Delhi Election Commission has deleted 13 lakh names as they were "bogus" voters.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 14 Aug 2013 19:47

Shouldnt they try to figure how the bogus voters ended up on the election lists?

Who registered them?

Supratik · Post by **Supratik** » 14 Aug 2013 22:11

ramana wrote:Shouldnt they try to figure how the bogus voters ended up on the election lists?

Who registered them?

In WB, Bdeshis are helped by local politicians, babus or influential people to get voter ID, ration card, etc sometimes in exchange of money. It is all very well organized and easy. Similarly in Assam. Seems Delhi INC is using the same tactics.

Virendra · Post by **Virendra** » 14 Aug 2013 23:40

Is Kiran Bedi about to join BJP?

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 15 Aug 2013 00:17

James B wrote:Interesting development

Move to side-line Jogi: Is Congress heading for a split in Chhattisgarh?

Fissures within the leadership of Chhattisgarh's opposition Congress are widening, threatening a split in the main opposition party just few months ahead of the upcoming assembly polls in the state.

Matters have reached a head between rival factions, led by state's first chief minister Ajit Jogi a mass leader with pan-Chhattisgarh support base, and state's PCC chief Dr Charandas Mahant and other leaders at the helm of organization after Jogi embarked on a five a day tour-virtually throwing the gauntlet to his political adversaries. Mahant and other party leaders have been trying to side-line and isolate Jogi; apparently with the tacit support of few central leaders.

Split is false, its a protection from the masscre charges on both jogi and sonia. They've to be seen as not on good terms until enquiry has died down. Then they takeover the state together.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 15 Aug 2013 00:57

Dhananjay wrote:
Split is false, its a protection from the masscre charges on both jogi and sonia. They've to be seen as not on good terms until enquiry has died down. Then they takeover the state together.

100% correct.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 15 Aug 2013 02:47

vishvak wrote:^^A year on, not a penny recovered from Azad Maidan rioters
link

“An address given to us by the Mumbai police for organisers Maulana Ahmed Raza of Madinatul Ilm and Syed Noori of Raza Academy turned out to be bogus.

Secular situation for heathens to run around and recover dues.

Was that on purpose to get out of taking action?

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 15 Aug 2013 02:58

Virendra wrote:Is Kiran Bedi about to join BJP?

lot of speculation going on for the last 1 month. I had already posted this sometime back.
whatever it is as long as Goel is not the cm candidate, any BJP candidate is a winner.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 15 Aug 2013 03:10

The Onion price rise crisis is it a Pawar move?

He is Agriculture Minister.
Maha is big onion producer.
maybe onions are beng exported without meeting local demand?

Or supplies hoarded to create a crisis?

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 15 Aug 2013 03:43

^^^ Despositing funds for coming elections by Pawar.

niran · Post by **niran** » 15 Aug 2013 07:57

ramana wrote:The Onion price rise crisis is it a Pawar move?

He is Agriculture Minister.
Maha is big onion producer.
maybe onions are beng exported without meeting local demand?

Or supplies hoarded to create a crisis?

tis not an Oninon harvesting time, Onion was harvested 2 months ago
if it is looked carefully 90 percent of cold storage owners are netas election is coming up
who is going to finance it? gullible holloi polloi of course

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 15 Aug 2013 10:39

When idea of cold storage came up, there were many who talked of efficiency and loss of wastage and of course 'progress' but not of competitive price rise or election loot. No one now talks of importing onions since we have cold storage no? In Australia price of onions is about 20Rs per kg. Won't be surprised if onions in Australia would be export quality onions from India. It's an open season to loot because innocent people are elected by innocent vote bank and no one in the whole country would know details.

God forbid if NaMo makes farmers in Gujarat grow onions it will be blow and onion tears to secularism. The most corrupt are pseudo-sec for electing corrupt for sake of pseudo secularism.

So what are benefits to pseudo-seculars for electing the currupt? Race to grab power and punish non-pseudo-seculars?

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 15 Aug 2013 15:47

ramana wrote:The Onion price rise crisis is it a Pawar move?

He is Agriculture Minister.
Maha is big onion producer.
maybe onions are beng exported without meeting local demand?

Or supplies hoarded to create a crisis?

Nafed is the main canalizing agency for export of Onion and is largest exporter of onion.
india does export a lot of onion and during period of supply shortage, export is not stopped as NAFED would suffer. Nafed is headed by INC MLA Dr. Bijender Singh, from nangloi. So it is not Pawar as such but congoons involved in this. They had created this crisis in 2004. making this crisis now does not make sense. Looks like production has really suffered and if export is stopped Pawar and his farmers would lynch congoons in Maha. Catch 22 , perhaps.

niran · Post by **niran** » 15 Aug 2013 16:59

chaanakya wrote: Looks like production has really suffered

production this year has been "Bumper" pliss to be googling about news for
farmers throwing away peeyaz due to low prices.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 15 Aug 2013 18:18

so lot more forces are ditching Sonia system.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 15 Aug 2013 19:21

niran wrote:
chaanakya wrote: Looks like production has really suffered
production this year has been "Bumper" pliss to be googling about news for
farmers throwing away peeyaz due to low prices.

Doesn't seem to be the case if NCEAR reports are any pointer
http://www.linkedin.com/groups/New-Seas ... .203775619

National Council of Applied Economic Research (NCEAR) has estimated a 20 percent drop in
onion output for 2012-13, while domestic as well as export demand for Indian onions will remain strong.

As per initial estimate, area under Rabi crop (Harvest - December/January ) of onion in India could be down by 30-40% due to shortage of water.

eastimating price boostup due to this loss of yeild during early Rabi crop (November/December) arrival, For 100% new crop white onion kibbled is around USD 1950 to 2000/ton FOB Port of Pipavav / Mundra - which is a bit higher compare to last season,

Another Report

Onion and potato prices shot up sharply across the country, except north India, on supportive fundamentals. While the damage of potato crop in the hilly areas, especially in Uttarakhand and Himachal Pradesh, lifted traders’ sentiments, stockists held onion in anticipation of further price rise until the new season crop hits the market in October.

Data compiled by the Nashik-based National Horticulture Research & Development Foundation (NHRDF) showed that onion prices rose by up to 41 per cent in the last two weeks on reduced supply from stockists. Guwahati was the worst hit in price rise with 41 per cent, followed by Mumbai at 31.48 per cent.

Potato followed suit with prices swelling by up to 42 per cent in Hubli (Karnataka). In Kanpur, one of India’s largest producing centres, potato prices jumped a marginal 7.14 per cent in the last fortnight.

“Stockists have started releasing stocks intermittently in anticipation of lower quantity of goods in warehouses. Since stocks at 2.7 million tonnes are 5-10 per cent lower across the country, compared to the last year, stockists are making profits to the maximum extent possible,” said R P Gupta, director, NHRDF.

According to Tariq Anwar, minister of state for agriculture, onion production is estimated to remain lower by 4 per cent at 16.82 million tonnes during FY13.

This year, however, early monsoon rainfall has benefited onion sowing. Thus, overall area during the kharif sowing season is estimated to remain 15-20 per cent higher from the level of around 200,000 hectare (ha) in the previous year. Early and late kharif seasons constitute around 20 per cent each, while the remaining 60 per cent of around 1 million ha acreage is covered in rabi season.

Apparently, onion arrivals have declined steadily during the past two weeks. Plying of truck was hampered due to heavy rainfalls across the country. For potato, however, June-July is a harvesting season when crop matures in hilly areas. Because of the recent flood in Uttarakhand and Himachal Pradesh, a major portion of crop has been damaged.

http://www.freshplaza.com/news_detail.asp?id=110990

However my comments were based on unprecedented rainfall in UK and HP areas which caused Onion crop damages and this was one of the possible outcome pointed out by some when I was watching Kedarnath tragedy.

However hoarding can not be ruled out.

niran · Post by **niran** » 16 Aug 2013 11:33

chaanakya wrote: “Stockists have started releasing stocks intermittently in anticipation of lower quantity of goods in warehouses. Since stocks at 2.7 million tonnes are 5-10 per cent lower across the country, compared to the last year, stockists are making profits to the maximum extent possible,” said R P Gupta, director, NHRDF.

see the report you post says "stockist" (aahartiya ) are intermittently releasing the stocks in plain angalaise it is "Hoarding to jack up the price"
as to why kangrez is allowing it have no idea, i have a loooong list of kangrez folly since they beat up and killed middle aged people
sleeping in Ramlila maidan,either in this thread or in the other thread have had expressed me concerns, 2 decades ago when me had no greys on me head would have laughed at them, but misfortunately me have lotsa greys now, me is really worried as to why kangrez is committing these folly and allowing the opposition to gain.

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 16 Aug 2013 11:40

niran wrote:
chaanakya wrote: “Stockists have started releasing stocks intermittently in anticipation of lower quantity of goods in warehouses. Since stocks at 2.7 million tonnes are 5-10 per cent lower across the country, compared to the last year, stockists are making profits to the maximum extent possible,” said R P Gupta, director, NHRDF.
see the report you post says "stockist" (aahartiya ) are intermittently releasing the stocks in plain angalaise it is "Hoarding to jack up the price"
as to why kangrez is allowing it have no idea, i have a loooong list of kangrez folly since they beat up and killed middle aged people
sleeping in Ramlila maidan,either in this thread or in the other thread have had expressed me concerns, 2 decades ago when me had no greys on me head would have laughed at them, but misfortunately me have lotsa greys now, me is really worried as to why kangrez is committing these folly and allowing the opposition to gain.

i have already propounded one theory..

niran · Post by **niran** » 16 Aug 2013 15:27

Atri wrote:
i have already propounded one theory..

and the theory is?

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 16 Aug 2013 15:41

niran wrote:
Atri wrote:
i have already propounded one theory..
and the theory is?

INC does not want to be in power OR to be seen responsible when Indrashakti strikes. This is the evasive maneuver. They want to have presence as dominant opposition in front of weak BJP govt (one like ABV) preferably headed by NM so that the blame of India suffering from Indrashakti can be put squarely on BJP and NM, thereby decimating them in next elections and eat fruits of the stringent measures taken by NM (who will take hard decisions true to his dharma which are essential).

Until the Indrashakti (recession AND Jihad from AFG) is blamed squarely on INC (it is their making after all) by most of the aam janta without any doubt in their collective mind whatsoever, BJP should stay in opposition and keep being seen as right guys. There is no point in causing the debacle of this govt. They should be allowed to linger as long as possible with NM seen as a knight in shining armor.

http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 0#p1441870

http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 8#p1469518

niran · Post by **niran** » 16 Aug 2013 16:00

But was not this very same tactic for the very same reasons used in 2
2002 that was a decade ago, then incoming call were charged
now a neta farts in somewherepur and within minutes people gets to know of its quality
and quantity etc. but your theory do make sense and that makes moi happy, I say
bring it on ye kangeze.