Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

yogendra · Post by **yogendra** » 17 Aug 2013 00:28

Sudarshan Sir, why waste so much of energy and effort for a two line question which any way does not make sense? We have to be baniyas in our reply and conserve our fire power for things that actually matter.

I think it is an interesting challenge that Theo is setting up for us. A two line for a two line makes the world blind (to circles)
I know it is a mysterious way of communication, but thats what Theo sir prefers. And we shouldn't disrespect his wishes.

yogendra · Post by **yogendra** » 17 Aug 2013 00:50

Neelaji, i am only afraid that the ground his ears is on is actually a track.

sudarshan · Post by **sudarshan** » 17 Aug 2013 00:52

Do think of those juicy fence-sitters waiting to be knocked off their perches, sir.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 17 Aug 2013 01:03

Theo_Fidel wrote:I think a white shirt and a red bordered white lungi, worn the 'correct way', with a starched mundu, would go a long way. Perception is everything.....

Sonia gets away with a lot because she always wears a Sari with the widows markings...

You forgot checkered lungi and lungi dance to get rid of GJ identity.

Does this guy qualify as South Indian? You'll be at home with him. He is the lord of the mission and destroyer of the evil.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 17 Aug 2013 01:21

BhairavP wrote:That Centreright article is truly alarming. Hope someone from the higher-ups with some brains in the BJP is reading this..
Any chance of Delhi issues getting resolved within the BJP?

Yes its quite ominous - seems a violent purge of freeloaders ensconced in Delhi HQ of Bhajapa is the final option. But before that one of ananthkumar , sushma jaitley advani shatrughan must be made an example of to show who is boss in Bjp - only then can things start falling in place on the ground in Karnataka and Delhi .

Nagpur must announce modi as the PM candidate and give him the freehand he requires.

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 17 Aug 2013 01:25

yogendra wrote:Neelaji, i am only afraid that the ground his ears is on is actually a track.

Hmm I thought communicating with Rajini would be more sophisticated than that! Oh well....

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 17 Aug 2013 01:37

BhairavP wrote:That Centreright article is truly alarming. Hope someone from the higher-ups with some brains in the BJP is reading this..
Any chance of Delhi issues getting resolved within the BJP?

D4 very cleverly appointed this Goel fellow just before the onset of NaMo in Delhi politics. But this pothole will be repaired before coming Delhi elections.

Harsh Vardhan may head Delhi poll campaign

Sources claimed Singh and Gadkari had a meeting on Thursday to discuss the issue and sort out the problem. “All propositions were discussed. Even if Goel manages to survive, his wings would be clipped,” sources claimed.

http://www.dailypioneer.com/todays-news ... paign.html

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 17 Aug 2013 01:38

http://www.firstpost.com/photos/the-pow ... 82561.html
the-power-of-four-modi-cho-advani-rajnikanth-combo-in-tn

Theo_Fidel · Post by **Theo_Fidel** » 17 Aug 2013 01:39

ShyamSP wrote:
Theo_Fidel wrote:I think a white shirt and a red bordered white lungi, worn the 'correct way', with a starched mundu, would go a long way. Perception is everything.....

Sonia gets away with a lot because she always wears a Sari with the widows markings...
You forgot checkered lungi and lungi dance to get rid of GJ identity.

Does this guy qualify as South Indian? You'll be at home with him. He is the lord of the mission and destroyer of the evil.

Not when he goes to ask for votes. There is a way to approach folks if you want their vote.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 17 Aug 2013 02:25

Sushupti wrote:
D4 very cleverly appointed this Goel fellow just before the onset of NaMo in Delhi politics. But this pothole will be repaired before coming Delhi elections.

Harsh Vardhan may head Delhi poll campaign

Sources claimed Singh and Gadkari had a meeting on Thursday to discuss the issue and sort out the problem. “All propositions were discussed. Even if Goel manages to survive, his wings would be clipped,” sources claimed.

http://www.dailypioneer.com/todays-news ... paign.html

This is the best news of the day. They did the same damage in Karnataka to try and ensure that BJP does not cross the 180 mark and that way modi cant be PM. If he can repair that also and in fact over and above, get an alliance with JD(S) and pull yeddy back into BJP. Then modi will effectively kill D4 for ever.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 17 Aug 2013 02:29

Theo_Fidel wrote:There is a way to approach folks if you want their vote.

Then you should open a company "Make up for elections". You can charge 1 lakh for Modi whenever he visits your S.TN cross belt (oops South India)

PS: gif says "in 188 countries they listen whatever I say" I finally get to use that pic.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 17 Aug 2013 02:46

LOL...admire the chutzpah some folks who loathe Modi have in terms of pretending to be well wishers and speaking for an entire region. The average South Indian will vote for a dynamic leader whom he/she identifies with..could be because of a million factors...useless symbolism as in lungi wearing for shows sake is meaningless..the poor don't care for such gimmicks, the middle class will scoff at it. And the pseculars will demand more and more in terms of such rubbish. Best that modi stick to who he is and he will be appreciated for it.

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 17 Aug 2013 04:03

Karan M wrote:LOL...admire the chutzpah some folks who loathe Modi have in terms of pretending to be well wishers and speaking for an entire region. The average South Indian will vote for a dynamic leader whom he/she identifies with..could be because of a million factors...useless symbolism as in lungi wearing for shows sake is meaningless..the poor don't care for such gimmicks, the middle class will scoff at it. And the pseculars will demand more and more in terms of such rubbish. Best that modi stick to who he is and he will be appreciated for it.

and not just that, they have the chutzpah to say that sonia has overcome her identity issues. These vatican lovers have this dream of trying to prove that this white catholic p....e has become a role model indian woman. Get real guys, congress voters (apart from minorities who always vote congress) dont vote for sonia, they vote for entitlement, freebies and caste equations

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 17 Aug 2013 04:19

An observation I found on facebook some months back:

Senorita Sonia Gandhi keeps on expressing her worries about BJP & RSS destroying the 'secular strucure of India'.

Senora Sonia Gandhi has two passports, One is Italian and One is Indian.

Now India is a secular country, in the Indian constitution it is written so too.

While Italy is a christian country, as a holder of Italian passport doesn't italy deserve sonia's efforts more to make it secular from a christian state?

Or, is it that being a catholic christian herself sonia wants italy to remain christian instead of becoming secular.

Is it being a christian sonia is against India becoming a Hindu Rashtra?

The same should be asked to Theo_Fidel, before answering his questions or discussing his suggestions.

Are you Theo_Fidel going to vote Narendra Modi?

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 17 Aug 2013 04:28

rohitvats wrote:
Muppalla wrote:

flikr photo of HYD meeting
From what i read, someone in Bangalore set this up for live viewing of Hyd speech.

NaMo in his tweets has thanked the organisers of the Bengaluru , kerala for their support.
supporters were all at sea getting his tweet.

check his TL tweets.

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Of course NaMo has already identified the problems of voting-- his team has set up specific tasks for each team -- almost all of them go to the core task of getting folks to vote--

all at local levels.
I believe Atri and Muppalla have said in their posts about capturing local booths, favorable local leaders etc before going for Dilli.

This is what his team is doing for now--- trying to repair damages to the local BJP teams, asking good local leaders to join the party or voice support.

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Reaching out to rival leaders or suspect leaders about their loyalty to congis etc-- testing the congis response at many levels.
ex-- he reached out to laloo when he got injured in a freak accident-- he knew Niku was creating problems.--- now Sadhoo etc etc.

soon you will hear more and more of subtle and sometimes brazen events .

brace yourselves for these and enjoi.

More and more actvities ongoing below the radar.

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Moot question is --whether all this these will help him in the votes-- voter is the ultimate king.

But But politics will never the be same whatever happens to NaMo and his electoral strategy.

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Curious and very sinister design in failing to give out the census data--

if minorities numbers are high, then NaMo goose is cooked while those of Congis enhanced.
congis have been wooing all minorities in these high stakes game for their power.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 17 Aug 2013 04:35

Raol baby has recd very bad ratings in his constituency per some tweets and congi circles.
serious efforts going at local level by his supporters to rectify these issues before the actual elections.

Another parallel effort on going to see if he can contest from another safe seat-- ??KA rings a bell. AP is no safe, RJ, DL, MH, HP not so sure as yet.

If only BSY gets into BJP or has a pact-- how I love this

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??? speculations rife that Kiran Bedi and Retd Gen VKS may join BJP in the next few days-- these rumors never die out.

Thankfully not congis. KB has already a sort of NaMo fan going by her tweets and reaction to NaMo indirectly.

waiting with bated breath for these worthy folks to join active political life and restore some dignity to this profession.

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 17 Aug 2013 04:38

dhananjay wrote:Are you Theo_Fidel going to vote Narendra Modi?

Interesting question. Lets see if we get any answer.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 17 Aug 2013 05:01

panduranghari wrote:
dhananjay wrote:Are you Theo_Fidel going to vote Narendra Modi?
Interesting question. Lets see if we get any answer.

India has secret ballots. And I think one should never directly ask political preferences and voting records and intentions. However, there are indirect ways to get that information

He does not have to answer, and even if he decides to answer, he can lie and you will never ever know the truth. So why ask?

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 17 Aug 2013 05:02

krisna wrote:Raol baby has recd very bad ratings in his constituency per some tweets and congi circles.
serious efforts going at local level by his supporters to rectify these issues before the actual elections.

Another parallel effort on going to see if he can contest from another safe seat-- ??KA rings a bell. AP is no safe, RJ, DL, MH, HP not so sure as yet.
...

Decks are getting cleared for him to follow his grandma - T announcement, Medak MP jumping from TRS to INC, TRS planning to merge, good EJ activity in Medak.

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 17 Aug 2013 05:11

SwamyG wrote:He can lie and you will never ever know the truth. So why ask?

At least he'll accept that Modi is the Right Man, even if he lies.

"Kaleja jal jayega kabool karte."

I bet Rs. 5/- that he won't say it.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 17 Aug 2013 05:13

Hari Seldon wrote:2014 and the pipedreams of BJP

Good, cautionary tale on how the bjp is messing up the 2014 opportunity even as we speak... Wonder what namo is upto. Possibly though unlikely that his team has missed or misread these events...

It looks like days when BJP was touting 'India is Shining' and CBN was harping on all the development in AP (er Hyderabad). Both parties lost even when there was visible development or progress. INC knows how to win, and knows to hit a straight six while on back foot.

Dhananjay wrote:
"Kaleja jal jayega kabool karte."

Aur apka kaleja tand ho jayega? Aap to aise choti choti se bathe se bahot santusht ho jathe hain kya ?

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 17 Aug 2013 05:26

I think you guyz are making a basic mistake by asking theo (or for that matter any NRI) if he is going to vote.. you have to look at his influencing capabilities and understand the votebank he can create. What has prevented him or others voting is only the laws and not "him" or "them". Something one can't be disassociated by just name calling or an overseas association, that can disconnect or cut the cord with mother india, his/her family, origins, blood and gene.

This is highly silly of people asking if your vote count.. you bloody nri, shut up and get out kind of analogy. Let modi vouch that for you all.. then I will shut up.

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 17 Aug 2013 05:30

SwamyG wrote:
Dhananjay wrote:
"Kaleja jal jayega kabool karte."

Aur apka kaleja tand ho jayega? Aap to aise choti choti se bathe se bahot santusht ho jathe hain kya ?

Baat to theek hai aapki, hum to barsaat mein ek cup chai peekar santusht ho jaate hain.

Par baat itni chhoti hoti to aapke jaisa badaa aadmi theo ka bachaav karne utarta kya?

Nahin nahin ab to ho hi jaye ek shart 5/- rupay ki !

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 17 Aug 2013 05:37

SaiK wrote:I think you guyz are making a basic mistake by asking theo (or for that matter any NRI) if he is going to vote...

In that case question can be rephrased "Would Theo have voted for Modi if he could?"

After all if I'm suggesting what strategies Shri Rahul Gandhi should follow to get a victory for UPA 3, it'll be genuine for somebody to ask "Are you yourself a supporter or UPA or not?"

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 17 Aug 2013 05:39

There are shoot-and-scoot people ('shooters and scooters') who get kicks outta throwing pebles into the pond and watch the ripples.

No point reacting to either the pebble or the ripple.

I had earlier pointed out this rank hypocrisy of 'pretend neutrals' prancing around here like they're NM's well-wishers. They must really think people are really dumb (typical cong viewpoint, btw).

Just yawn and move on. Giving in to the impulse to say something/anything only validates the existence of such scooters. I know, mea culpa, moi gave in to said impulses in the past, still moi learned from it....

Again folks, just yawn and move on...

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 17 Aug 2013 06:13

I will think of secularism as a valid idea for its little worth when Europe becomes secular and last heard some barbarians in Italy were busy insulting a minority elected representative.

Till Europe becomes secular and USA becomes secular and the middle east becomes secular its all pack of lies to hide barbarism in these regions and accuse and blackmail Indians. There is nothing called secularism in J&K even. So why waste time disapproving taqiya accusations.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 17 Aug 2013 06:26

Dhananjay wrote:
Baat to theek hai aapki, hum to barsaat mein ek cup chai peekar santusht ho jaate hain.

Par baat itni chhoti hoti to aapke jaisa badaa aadmi theo ka bachaav karne utarta kya?

Nahin nahin ab to ho hi jaye ek shart 5/- rupay ki !

Aap galat samaj baite. Mein Theo ki bachaava me nahin aaya. Mein to aapke bachaava me aaya tha. Kiseeki voting patterns and intentions poochna galat hain. Theo ki bachaava ke liye moderators aur admins kabhi bhi, kisee bi vakht par aa sakte hain. Kyoni ki vo to BRF Oldie hain, aap to tahre...Dhananjay ko parthasarthy ki avashyakatha hoti rahti hain

Muje barsaat mein chai ke siva, pakode, mirchi bhajji, samosae aur ek Gold Flakes bhi chaiye.

Aur aakhri baat, aap to Ramayan pade honge - mein to us nana sa chota sa squirrel hoon - jisne Ram ki seva ki. Mein koi bada vada admi nahin hoon. Par mein hamesha compliments aur lakshmi (dhan, money) ko kabhi 'na' nahin kahta.

Anyways aap ko 'good luck ji'.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 17 Aug 2013 06:37

australia now inviting NaMo-- slowly whites are looking at future.

still the dense heads in uscrif are holding out not that they are spotless- all of them are non hindus and rabid abrahamics. of course aided and abetted by congi and asssorted leftists.

need to give a mighty jhappad to these dense heads.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 17 Aug 2013 06:38

Jail fear, Modi threaten to breach Lalu caste axis

Patna-based observer and analyst Saibal Gupta sees political logic in sections of Yadavs wanting to hitch their stars to the BJP. “They have been without power for close to a decade now, and they know they are not going to get it under Nitish. Should the BJP be able to display winnability, some of them, especially the affluent ones, will be tempted to switch loyalty. They will be tempted even more if Lalu is in jail on fodder scam charges.”

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1130817/j ... g7SgtLCaSo

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 17 Aug 2013 06:45

BJP backs Modi, Advani isolated

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1130817/j ... g7UutLCaSo

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 17 Aug 2013 06:54

SwamyG wrote: Theo ki bachaava ke liye moderators aur admins kabhi bhi, kisee bi vakht par aa sakte hain. Kyoni ki vo to BRF Oldie hain,

Oldie hone se moderator bachaane aaynge, aisa sochna bhool hai, bade bade oldies warning or ban khate rehte hain galat hone par. Koi hierarchy kaam nahin aati....

aap to tahre...Dhananjay ko parthasarthy ki avashyakatha hoti rahti hain

Aur aakhri baat, aap to Ramayan pade honge - mein to us nana sa chota sa squirrel hoon - jisne Ram ki seva ki. Mein koi bada vada admi nahin hoon. Par mein hamesha compliments aur lakshmi (dhan, money) ko kabhi 'na' nahin kahta.

Anyways aap ko 'good luck ji'.

Dhananjay ko sahara dene ke liye Yugandhar hona padta hai. Phir bhi dhanyawaad ki ram ji ki gilahri nein meri chinta ki, uske liye dhanyabhaag aur sadhuwaad.

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 17 Aug 2013 07:01

Aenda ippadi mokka podareenga...

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 17 Aug 2013 07:34

http://www.theunrealtimes.com/2013/08/1 ... ce-debate/

brillaint as usual.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 17 Aug 2013 07:50

see how kommunla he is-- using orange klub on green grass with white pants.

archan · Post by **archan** » 17 Aug 2013 08:02

Dhananjay wrote:
SwamyG wrote: Theo ki bachaava ke liye moderators aur admins kabhi bhi, kisee bi vakht par aa sakte hain. Kyoni ki vo to BRF Oldie hain,
Oldie hone se moderator bachaane aaynge, aisa sochna bhool hai, bade bade oldies warning or ban khate rehte hain galat hone par. Koi hierarchy kaam nahin aati....

aap to tahre...Dhananjay ko parthasarthy ki avashyakatha hoti rahti hain

Aur aakhri baat, aap to Ramayan pade honge - mein to us nana sa chota sa squirrel hoon - jisne Ram ki seva ki. Mein koi bada vada admi nahin hoon. Par mein hamesha compliments aur lakshmi (dhan, money) ko kabhi 'na' nahin kahta.

Anyways aap ko 'good luck ji'.
Dhananjay ko sahara dene ke liye Yugandhar hona padta hai. Phir bhi dhanyawaad ki ram ji ki gilahri nein meri chinta ki, uske liye dhanyabhaag aur sadhuwaad.

I'm sorry guys you are distracting this thread too much now. Does anyone else find it hard to read Hindi written in English? As a native Hindi speaker I find it difficult to follow. What to think of the others. I've requested the same to Raja and Mort in the gadget thread. Please don't post more than a couple occasional sentences in hindi.
Secondly, avoid focusing that much on one member. Please keep the broader objective of the thread in mind. Else we close this.

kumarn · Post by **kumarn** » 17 Aug 2013 10:17

krisna wrote:http://www.theunrealtimes.com/2013/08/1 ... ce-debate/

brillaint as usual.

This is just too much! I haven't laughed like this in ages!

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 17 Aug 2013 11:02

Saw a bit news in thanthi Tamil paper saying some "top US official" said there are still questions about riots and modi should not be given visa. No details.

Later today, at a friends house, spotted the hundi, and in centre page snippets section - more details. Said top US official is some whatshername as vice something at some internations religious freedom committee.

Oh how despo these people are. Maybe they should agitate in fromt of chennai consulate next.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 17 Aug 2013 11:18

Indian foreign Services personnel should make sure if USA has not given any VISA to Godhra MLC from con race, now absconding, Haji Bilal in massacre of Hindu pilgrims. There are no VISA restrctions by USA against Haji Bilal no?

rajithn · Post by **rajithn** » 17 Aug 2013 12:09

vishvak wrote:Indian foreign Services personnel should make sure if USA has not given any VISA to Godhra MLC from con race, now absconding, Haji Bilal in massacre of Hindu pilgrims. There are no VISA restrctions by USA against Haji Bilal no?

Let the US give or not give visa to whoever it wants to. Thats their prerogative and should not disturb us. It shouldnt matter to us. However, it is the reciprocative treatment that we can mete out to their people that will prove who has cojones.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 17 Aug 2013 13:11

A muslim wishing fellow muslims in Bihar a happy Eid through a banner in Hindi that has Namo's picture on it...? Hain ji? how communal and polarising... Where're nitish and laloo, not 2 mention Diggy, Kurshid, omar and ahmed patel on this???