Statewide and National runup to 2014 General elections

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 31 Aug 2013 14:46

CPM seeks jaya help to fight UPA

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 31 Aug 2013 18:14

Some more info with regards to the D4. baap of D4 is obviously low purush.

per some twitter reports- D4 esp LKA as he has lot of clout - made his decisions with regards to elections. in about 100 LS constituencies he made weak BJP candidates so that local factors also play an important role in getting BJP defeated despite sentiments against congis in previous elections.

some of the BJP mps are more loyal to LKA and sonia than BJP itself as a party. hence the non coordination between D4 and BJP on many matters.

This was told by the brother of shivsena MP who was inside.

The overall question is -- why is D4 esp LKA compromised. He was not like this about a decade back.

same thing with SS AJ and AK and few others.
RSS not exactly in control with these folks due to seniority etc and some other reasons.
Recall many of these folks are outside RSS ambit having come from non RSS backgrounds.

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Advent of NaMo has put paid to their plans- NaMo is as clean as you can get with no compromise. he has taken the battle right into termite queen nest. causing lot of angst and tension.
No blackmail on NaMo - hence the desperate bid to entrap him like they have done on low purush and his stooges.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 01 Sep 2013 01:23

kumarn wrote:
ramana wrote:He should not be allowed any MP seat. He can become governor/amabssador if he works for NDA win.
If he cannot even win an MP seat, what is his claim to fame? Why should he be offered governorship? Just curious sir.

Right now he is in the thick of things ensuring BJP defeat. By showing him some prize he might change for the better.

Based on his efforts he can be rewarded.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 01 Sep 2013 01:37

efforts to ensure BJP win.. na?

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 01 Sep 2013 01:57

krisna wrote:The overall question is -- why is D4 esp LKA compromised. He was not like this about a decade back.

There was a CBI case against Advani for instigating the mob that brought down the mosque in UP. This case was resurrected after 2004, and an eyewitness named Gupta provided testimony to nail him.

disha · Post by **disha** » 01 Sep 2013 02:25

ramana wrote: Right no he is in the thick of things ensuring BJP defeat. By showing him some prize he might change for the better.

Based on his efforts he can be rewarded.

Saar, are we discussing political strategy to put BJP back in power to save India?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 01 Sep 2013 04:09

No. Its what is practical for those who want to get power.

Kakkaji · Post by **Kakkaji** » 01 Sep 2013 07:32

I think Advani got compromised due to the antics of his son and daughter. His daughter has been co-opted by the page 3 'beautiful people'. He was also misled by the likes of SK who led him towards occupying the elusive 'secular, inclusive' space.

His 'Loh purush' image had come crashing down during the Kandahar crisis when the ISI ran rings around the GOI. LKA was shown up as inept and incapable of stopping the bungling done by Brajesh Mishra & Co. Even though he was the Home Minister and Deputy PM, he did not show the steel that the real 'Sardar' Patel had shown in the past. The 'Chhote Sardar' moniker was a mockery from that point.

He did redeem himself some when, during the Agra talks with Mush, he stopped ABV from giving away the store. But it was clear he was not cut out to be no. 1.

Now it is only his ego ('aham') that cannot accept that his 'chela' Modi has surpassed him in popularity and accomplishments.

Prem Kumar · Post by **Prem Kumar** » 01 Sep 2013 08:07

Who is the 4th in D4 (besides Advani, Sushma & Jaitley)?

Given its extensive usage, it needs to be added to the BRF Dictionary

Kakkaji · Post by **Kakkaji** » 01 Sep 2013 08:15

Prem Kumar wrote:Who is the 4th in D4 (besides Advani, Sushma & Jaitley)?

Given its extensive usage, it needs to be added to the BRF Dictionary

Ananth Kumar

VinodTK · Post by **VinodTK** » 02 Sep 2013 01:09

Sonia Gandhi to fly to the US for medical check-up

NEW DELHI: Congress president Sonia Gandhi will travel to the US for a medical check-up, a senior party leader said on Sunday.

"Her going to the US for medical check-up is due," he said but declined to give any details when asked about reports if she may by flying out on Monday evening. This is her second trip for the purpose after a gap of six months.

Gandhi, who had undergone a surgery in the US for an undisclosed ailment in August, 2011, had flown there on September 2 last year for a check-up. She had again been to the US in February this year.

Gandhi was on August 26 admitted to AIIMS hospital after she was taken ill in the Lok Sabha where her pet welfare legislation and UPA's ambitious Food Security Bill was in the final stages of adoption.

She was discharged from the hospital after spending five hours. Gandhi, who had cough and headache, had felt uneasy in Parliament after taking medicines.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 02 Sep 2013 04:54

Again? This time the destination is openly admitted. Earlier it was a mystery wrapped in an Congress enema.

Is this related to the devalued rupee and re-transfer hawala money for elections?

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 02 Sep 2013 05:34

krishnan wrote:CPM seeks jaya help to fight UPA

Scanned the last two issues of 'Tuglaq', Cho is still mum on any NaMo-Jaya alliance.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 02 Sep 2013 07:48

any South Indian guy who operates a magazine called "Tuglaq" should be inspected as one would an interesting specimen under the microscope.
there must be some interesting psychoanalysis if someone knows his full story.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 02 Sep 2013 09:28

Well Mohd Tughlaq was considered crazy for shifting the capital to Daulatabad or Deogiri and making all the residents move.

Same way Cho started the satire magazine and called it Tughlaq.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 02 Sep 2013 09:41

SwamyG wrote:
krishnan wrote:CPM seeks jaya help to fight UPA
Scanned the last two issues of 'Tuglaq', Cho is still mum on any NaMo-Jaya alliance.

its just routine move by CPm , so cho must have been quiet on it

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 02 Sep 2013 10:01

it has not been probed by the MSM precisely what is the nature of the ailment that cannot be treated in the very best of medical facility in india where ABV and MMS have both had operations. jyoti basu was another such people's leader...always had his medical treatment in london.

deep throat sources sometimes claim in the shadowy corners its the emperor of all maladies but who knows..

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 02 Sep 2013 10:54

Maybe she wanted to preview Obamacare?

VinodTK · Post by **VinodTK** » 03 Sep 2013 05:48

ramana wrote:Maybe she wanted to preview Obamacare?

Sonia Gandhi flies to US for medical check-up

NEW DELHI: Congress president Sonia Gandhi left for the US on Monday for medical check-up. Accompanied by her daughter Priyanka, she left this afternoon, official sources said.

66-year-old Gandhi, who had undergone a surgery in the US for an undisclosed ailment on August 5, 2011, had flown there for a check-up in February and again on September two last year.

The Congress president was admitted to AIIMS last Monday after she complained of chest pain and exhaustion in the Lok Sabha during a discussion on Food Security Bill when it was in the last stages of adoption.

She was discharged from the hospital after she spent five hours undergoing various tests. Gandhi, who had cough and headache, had felt uneasy in Parliament after taking medicines.

This has to be more then a checkup, she might be undergoing some sort of testing (pure speculation).
Hope all is well!

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 03 Sep 2013 07:10

ramana wrote:Well Mohd Tughlaq was considered crazy for shifting the capital to Daulatabad or Deogiri and making all the residents move.

Same way Cho started the satire magazine and called it Tughlaq.

plus he acted as mohd bin tughlaq in the tamil movie mohd bin tughlaq, a satire

Prem Kumar · Post by **Prem Kumar** » 03 Sep 2013 08:27

ramana wrote:Again? This time the destination is openly admitted. Earlier it was a mystery wrapped in an Congress enema.

Is this related to the devalued rupee and re-transfer hawala money for elections?

Subramaniam Swamy had tweeted that she would go to the U.S - a couple of days before the news item came out. He mentioned glioma

Prem Kumar · Post by **Prem Kumar** » 03 Sep 2013 08:29

ramana wrote:Well Mohd Tughlaq was considered crazy for shifting the capital to Daulatabad or Deogiri and making all the residents move.

Same way Cho started the satire magazine and called it Tughlaq.

Cho was also very well known for his stage dramas, which were political satires for the most part. Really good ones too. One of his stage dramas was "Mohammad bin Tughlaq" - wherein the real Tughlaq gets time-transported to modern day India and becomes a politician. That drama was a hit.

His magazine took the same name

niran · Post by **niran** » 03 Sep 2013 08:50

Prem Kumar wrote: Subramaniam Swamy had tweeted that she would go to the U.S - a couple of days before the news item came out. He mentioned glioma

if she really have Glioma them she would have been dead as a door nail even with surgery and radiation and chemotherapy which looking at her videos absolutely did not happened. yes she was trembling while reading her notes on FSB it could be anything
nerves, effects of medication, or thyroiditis perhaps.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 03 Sep 2013 10:03

I dont think has any major health issue. the health checks are probably cover to 'drop by' other places and do what needs to get done. as a non-minister in the govt, maam cannot go on official diplomatic trips.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 03 Sep 2013 10:47

niran wrote:
Prem Kumar wrote: Subramaniam Swamy had tweeted that she would go to the U.S - a couple of days before the news item came out. He mentioned glioma
if she really have Glioma them she would have been dead as a door nail even with surgery and radiation and chemotherapy which looking at her videos absolutely did not happened. yes she was trembling while reading her notes on FSB it could be anything
nerves, effects of medication, or thyroiditis perhaps.

My mom lived with stage 3 cancer for 11 years, very rare type of cancer , doctors didnt even expected her to live for 2 years and even started counceling us, no one could even believe she had it, not many knewn , so they were very surprised and shocked., she lived a normal life , going around on her own , even travelling to native all alone, all this for a aam junta like her, now with the medic facility that rajamatha can get , its not surprising that she looks all healthy.....but going abroad for treatment has become a fashion for these people, so either its genuine or a cover up

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 03 Sep 2013 10:57

devesh wrote:any South Indian guy who operates a magazine called "Tuglaq" should be inspected as one would an interesting specimen under the microscope.
there must be some interesting psychoanalysis if someone knows his full story.

i suggest you do the "psychoanalysis" on yourself first.

it take 5 seconds for a cursory search in wiki for Cho Ramasamy's hit drama and subsequent movie and subsequent magazine.

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 03 Sep 2013 10:59

Singha wrote:I dont think has any major health issue. the health checks are probably cover to 'drop by' other places and do what needs to get done. as a non-minister in the govt, maam cannot go on official diplomatic trips.

did she not 'faint' or something during this FSB thing and taken to hospital? maybe the hospital said she has to be checked and so she is making a quick trip, in the guise of a 'regular checkup' ?

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 03 Sep 2013 11:32

Gus wrote:
Singha wrote:I dont think has any major health issue. the health checks are probably cover to 'drop by' other places and do what needs to get done. as a non-minister in the govt, maam cannot go on official diplomatic trips.
did she not 'faint' or something during this FSB thing and taken to hospital? maybe the hospital said she has to be checked and so she is making a quick trip, in the guise of a 'regular checkup' ?

medical reason gives good privacy to meet "doctors" in Virginia.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 03 Sep 2013 11:39

Its for personally making all the assurances massa requires to let the black money flow back unhindered and unobstructed.....

Massa oversees all the offshore and onshore financial flows.. after all.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 03 Sep 2013 12:30

niran wrote:
Prem Kumar wrote: Subramaniam Swamy had tweeted that she would go to the U.S - a couple of days before the news item came out. He mentioned glioma
if she really have Glioma them she would have been dead as a door nail even with surgery and radiation and chemotherapy which looking at her videos absolutely did not happened. yes she was trembling while reading her notes on FSB it could be anything
nerves, effects of medication, or thyroiditis perhaps.

Not necessarily - it depends on the type of glioma. Not all gliomas are immediately fatal. Low grade tumours take years, often even decades before they become fatal (but low grade tumours are also often extremely hard to remove). On the other hand, if she has a fast developing high grade tumour, it can kill her in less than six months. Here, we routinely see tumours scanned two weeks previously showing enormous change for high grade tumours.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 03 Sep 2013 13:50

What is the kind of tumour that gives any reaction during Food Security Bill discussion? Or serious affects before general elections?

The issue here - Sonia's disease or defect- shows level of discourse at national elections, which reflects here. This thread may be more important than NaMo vs dynasty thread for its razor shorp focus on next elections but the level of discourse before elections is sad.

Sagar G · Post by **Sagar G** » 03 Sep 2013 18:47

ramana wrote:Again? This time the destination is openly admitted. Earlier it was a mystery wrapped in an Congress enema.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 04 Sep 2013 05:46

Gus wrote:
devesh wrote:any South Indian guy who operates a magazine called "Tuglaq" should be inspected as one would an interesting specimen under the microscope.
there must be some interesting psychoanalysis if someone knows his full story.
i suggest you do the "psychoanalysis" on yourself first.

it take 5 seconds for a cursory search in wiki for Cho Ramasamy's hit drama and subsequent movie and subsequent magazine.

I analyze myself on a regular basis. you need not worry.
and yes, any South Indian guy who opens a magazine called "Tuglaq" is a little suspect.
In Cho's case, it might be a satirical device. and that's ok. but on first glance, we have every right to question such a guy.

and thanks for the tip on wiki. I didn't know such a thing existed. will keep in mind in future.

nawabs · Post by **nawabs** » 06 Sep 2013 01:16

BJP likely to win Delhi polls: ABP-Nielsen survey

http://www.livemint.com/Politics/5J1N6T ... urvey.html

The Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) is likely to emerge as the single-largest party in the forthcoming Delhi election, but will fall short of a majority in the House leading to a hung assembly, according to a survey done by broadcaster ABP News (formerly Star News) and researcher Nielsen.

The survey, based on responses from 7,084 registered voters in the capital, indicated that issues of inflation and corruption will hurt the ruling Congress party’s prospects in the state election due later this year.

BJP is likely to win 32 seats in the 70-seat Delhi assembly, up from 23 now, while the Congress’s tally will likely fall from 43 seats now to 27, ABP News said in a statement on Thursday. It predicted that activist-turned-politician Arvind Kejriwal’s recently launched Aam Aadmi Party (AAP) would win eight seats.

According to the survey, corruption, inflation and unemployment are the key electoral issues in the ensuing state assembly polls. The Sheila Dikshit-led Congress government in Delhi faced flak over the mismanagement of the Commonwealth Games in 2010.

“The switch of voters from Congress to BJP is mainly due to inability to control inflation (36%) followed by increase in corruption (28%). Switching from Congress to AAP is similar—inability to control inflation (26%) followed by increase in corruption (25%),” ABP News said in its statement. The survey also indicated the Congress party has not been able to woo young voters in the capital—a critical voting group that the AAP has been trying to tap.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 06 Sep 2013 01:22

So Kejriwal is the Chiranjeevi of Delhi Politics. He ensures Opposition doesn't get to rule nor will he.

BTW how can the anti-inflation vote go to AAP when they dont have a single idea to control inflation as its a national subject?

Have the parties already fielded their candidates? Is this a seat by seat survey or the traditional 200 voters survey!

Garooda · Post by **Garooda** » 06 Sep 2013 01:24

Gus wrote:
Singha wrote:I dont think has any major health issue. the health checks are probably cover to 'drop by' other places and do what needs to get done. as a non-minister in the govt, maam cannot go on official diplomatic trips.
did she not 'faint' or something during this FSB thing and taken to hospital? maybe the hospital said she has to be checked and so she is making a quick trip, in the guise of a 'regular checkup' ?

Most prolly a DC or Virginia based 'gyno' ? sorta to 'fill her in' on 'haanikaarak' habits.

Garooda · Post by **Garooda** » 06 Sep 2013 01:29

I dont think has any major health issue. the health checks are probably cover to 'drop by' other places and do what needs to get done. as a non-minister in the govt, maam cannot go on official diplomatic trips.
did she not 'faint' or something during this FSB thing and taken to hospital? maybe the hospital said she has to be checked and so she is making a quick trip, in the guise of a 'regular checkup' ?

medical reason gives good privacy to meet "doctors" in Virginia.

Kyoon Delhi ke doctors pasand nahi yaa bharosa nahi?

kaheen kuch aur naa ghusaa de..instead of injection ?

Garooda · Post by **Garooda** » 06 Sep 2013 01:31

Subramaniam Swamy had tweeted that she would go to the U.S - a couple of days before the news item came out. He mentioned glioma
if she really have Glioma them she would have been dead as a door nail even with surgery and radiation and chemotherapy which looking at her videos absolutely did not happened. yes she was trembling while reading her notes on FSB it could be anything
nerves, effects of medication, or thyroiditis perhaps.

Not necessarily - it depends on the type of glioma. Not all gliomas are immediately fatal. Low grade tumours take years, often even decades before they become fatal (but low grade tumours are also often extremely hard to remove). On the other hand, if she has a fast developing high grade tumour, it can kill her in less than six months. Here, we routinely see tumours scanned two weeks previously showing enormous change for high grade tumours.

There isn't adequate medical facilities or medical service providers and doctors in India that she can use?

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 06 Sep 2013 03:05

^^ I am not supporting sonia. But there are hazaar aam junta in india who come to US for advanced treatment. Would you get a organ transplant done in India or the US, given a choice?? India has a horrible success rate in critical care.

manju · Post by **manju** » 06 Sep 2013 03:53

I was not sure where to post this. Any of you know more about this organization?

http://adrindia.org/our-work/political-parties-watch#

Some interesting reports

http://adrindia.org/research-and-report ... arty-watch