Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 12 Sep 2013 22:37

Family drama in Parivar

http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/the-bu ... var/290378

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 12 Sep 2013 22:39

fanne wrote:and in the process clean the filth from BJP Ganga?

Hopefully. .for the past 8 years BJP old guard has been abject versus Sonia.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 12 Sep 2013 22:42

Karan M wrote:Its good that if modi comes in he will hopefully have a younger team than these jokers.

Sushupti ji that sage gave up his power voluntarily. LKA is willing to fight to the last proxy.

But not until he realized that Sri Ram is not mere a prince.

राम रमापति कर धनु लेहू। खैंचहु मिटै मोर संदेहू॥
देत चापु आपुहिं चलि गयऊ। परसुराम मन बिसमय भयऊ॥

after that

कहि जय जय जय रघुकुलकेतू। भृगुपति गए बनहि तप हेतू॥

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 12 Sep 2013 22:44

Vipin_Upadhyay wrote:The way Sudheendra Kulkarni today attacked NaMo, there is more Loh Purush drama ahead, he will operate through his loyalists. Dynasty media has already sensed this opportunity & positioned themselves well in advance to blame everything on NaMo.

Ind Express says its riposite to Sushil Modi from SK and SSwamy on Twitter.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 12 Sep 2013 22:44

Sholuld not BJP ask LK Addpani ( Add=Fude. Panni=Making/Creating )to resign or expel him instead of him resigning from the party ?

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 12 Sep 2013 22:46

Sushupti wrote:
Karan M wrote:Its good that if modi comes in he will hopefully have a younger team than these jokers.

Sushupti ji that sage gave up his power voluntarily. LKA is willing to fight to the last proxy.
But not until he realized that Sri Ram is not mere a prince.

राम रमापति कर धनु लेहू। खैंचहु मिटै मोर संदेहू॥
देत चापु आपुहिं चलि गयऊ। परसुराम मन बिसमय भयऊ॥

after that

कहि जय जय जय रघुकुलकेतू। भृगुपति गए बनहि तप हेतू॥

This guy wont realize anything I think.

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 12 Sep 2013 22:48

BJP fall really started when the back door organizers either left (God, or expelled or over ruled and replaced by good for nothing {perhaps Trojan themselves}). BJP lost few great ones (Nanaji Deshmukh - His loss led to BJP leaders becoming caste or ego leader than statesman, Advani would have been served better, had someone like him guided him then SK). Govindacharya (with all his fault), left and that led to Backward caste leading UP consensus breakdown (in reality, BJP lost 2004 as soon as they started messing with KS, if say BJP had won 40 seats in UP in 2004, we could still see NDA govt). Similarly OP Mathur was over ruled by Vasundhara, and she lost a state that she should have easily won (plus her son and the survey that she had was heavily doctored).
These stalwarts were replaced by KS, PA etc (and many more I guess, serf serving middle men and leaders). If all of these (or even most) get removed, BJP will be again fighting fit.

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 12 Sep 2013 22:48

RSS should make an example of Lohpurush and Sushmaa. It will send a very positive message to the party- shape up or ship out. Even CEOs step down if shareholders have their way.

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 12 Sep 2013 22:54

Marten wrote:Placed a bet with a close friend over the scenario that Advani is taking flak now to build plan B - if they don't get to 272 (inc current allies), the alternative channels are being prepared now. Really big game to lose, so they're gaming it out fully. Won't say which side I bet for, the end result will be a BJP govt if they do this right. Ignore the intermediate phases, plan for all possible outcomes like a good project manager.

Pointless to have a hamstrung government. Better let assorted idiots come to power with congress support and a very strong opposition. Let Indrashakti strike whenever.

Vipin_Upadhyay · Post by **Vipin_Upadhyay** » 12 Sep 2013 23:00

Marten wrote:Placed a bet with a close friend over the scenario that Advani is taking flak now to build plan B - if they don't get to 272 (inc current allies), the alternative channels are being prepared now. Really big game to lose, so they're gaming it out fully. Won't say which side I bet for, the end result will be a BJP govt if they do this right. Ignore the intermediate phases, plan for all possible outcomes like a good project manager.

I hope & pray you are right. But watching Advani since last 10 years, I have lost faith. Jinnah love-fest, fondness for Maino, Karnataka fiasco, a commie Lomdi in BJP as closest aide there are too many of them to ignore.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 12 Sep 2013 23:02

If a UPA3 comes they will use the paid media to keep the opposition in check. See the nuke deal to see how that was done.

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 12 Sep 2013 23:03

Yeah kulkarni as a trusted aide is another blackmark against LKA.

Shanmukh · Post by **Shanmukh** » 12 Sep 2013 23:06

Folks - just my thoughts. This business could have been laid to rest by convening a full BJP assembly and having everyone vote for their choice of the PM candidate. This should have been arranged by this time, so that LKA and SS and all the dissenting `leaders' could have been silenced effectively. They could have been told `You have seen the will of the party. Accept it with grace!'

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 12 Sep 2013 23:10

Couldn't believe what i heard from this Kulkarni character: on one hand he said BJP followers yelling for NM does not mean anything, will the country vote for him, he's not that popular...then in the very next sentence he says being popular is not a necessity to being good for India! WTF height of hypocracy..if this is the kind of advice that LKA seeks we know why BJP lost 2009 and the senselessness that plagues him.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 12 Sep 2013 23:15

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 12 Sep 2013 23:15

atri, who would be sikhandhi?

Sagar G · Post by **Sagar G** » 12 Sep 2013 23:16

Jaichand must have been feeling all alone all these years but now he has Sudheendra Kulkarni by his side.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 12 Sep 2013 23:17

Vipin_Upadhyay wrote:
Marten wrote:Placed a bet with a close friend over the scenario that Advani is taking flak now to build plan B - if they don't get to 272 (inc current allies), the alternative channels are being prepared now. Really big game to lose, so they're gaming it out fully. Won't say which side I bet for, the end result will be a BJP govt if they do this right. Ignore the intermediate phases, plan for all possible outcomes like a good project manager.
I hope & pray you are right. But watching Advani since last 10 years, I have lost faith. Jinnah love-fest, fondness for Maino, Karnataka fiasco, a commie Lomdi in BJP as closest aide there are too many of them to ignore.

MITOA Modi Is The Only Alternative!

I Like this

Vipin_Upadhyay · Post by **Vipin_Upadhyay** » 12 Sep 2013 23:19

amid all these churning in Bhajapa, the man who silently did his job is Mohan Madhukar Bhagawat ji.

He deserves more credit & acknowledgement from every Indian.

So, Thank you Mohan Bhagawat ji for paving the way for a true Bharatiya.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 12 Sep 2013 23:25

Sushupti wrote:

Can we make sure that all the language of the politics in India is using Mahabharata
Can this be enforced

Sagar G · Post by **Sagar G** » 12 Sep 2013 23:43

Voter Registration Process has started

Modi tweeted about this link, go register.

Voter Registration Information

member_22872 · Post by **member_22872** » 13 Sep 2013 00:08

Does anyone know how to do this for those living in US?

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 13 Sep 2013 00:14

Watch Mrs Lekhi here the way she takes on Prabhu Chawla and Lomdi. I really enjoy the way he was expressing frustration at RSS altering the direction set for BJP by Atalji and AdvaaniJi. Listen to Lomdi he makes even MSA look like Bjarang dal member.

http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/421597/ind ... desai.html

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 13 Sep 2013 00:19

The elders have rightly said:

“Man becomes old and infirm,
Loses his hair and teeth and
Cannot even hear and see properly.
Everything in his body
Degenerates but not desire.”

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 13 Sep 2013 00:21

Sagar G wrote:Voter Registration Process has started

Modi tweeted about this link, go register.

Voter Registration Information

Just go to this link and register

If no response is receivedcomplain here

You can find out about your state Website for election and chief electoral officer and Electoral Registration Officerhere . Call them/ mail them.

Summary revision is about to start and should conclude by Jan 4th/6th except for states going to polls where it will be till the one week before the polls.

EPIC is not mandatory but should have some Photo ID Proof.

By November ECi can announce Polls to LS anytime, it has power to do so. No need to wait for term to be over.

Poll Preparedness is in full swing and things will be getting hotter from now on.

Disqualification for convicted might stay unless done away with in winter session. That should be interesting. ECI is collecting info on those convicted ones.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 13 Sep 2013 00:51

panduranghari wrote:The elders have rightly said:

“Man becomes old and infirm,
Loses his hair and teeth and
Cannot even hear and see properly.
Everything in his body
Degenerates but not desire.”

अङ्गं गलितं पलितं मुण्डं,
दशनविहीनं जतं तुण्डम्।
वृद्धो याति गृहीत्वा दण्डं,
तदपि न मुञ्चत्याशापिण्डम् ॥१५॥
भज गोविन्दं भज गोविन्दं,
गोविन्दं भज मूढ़मते।

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 13 Sep 2013 00:51

repeat post deleted

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 13 Sep 2013 00:55

From Faking news.

member_27444 · Post by **member_27444** » 13 Sep 2013 01:36

Amazing the same forum used to bat for LKg when some one saw this old man for what he is worth. Even in power
There was daily duel
between mithaiwala vs Sinha (not Mala)
Akhand vs LKg
SUushma vs Sadhvi

Govinda vs ......

united they fall divided they speak

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 13 Sep 2013 01:40

Oh yes. At 7:00 AM I said it was morning, at 12 PM noon and at 6 PM evening, when it was 12 AM I called it midnight. I was accused as confused, or someone who changed his stand every time, person of low conviction...yada yada...I though only spoke the truth (as I see it, for there is only one absolute truth, rest is mithya)

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 13 Sep 2013 01:57

Despite all the interfighting between BJP dudes and ladies in the NDA..

Compared to UPA 1 and UPA 2, those days were heaven though.

Huge economic growth, a big thenga to sanctions, fighting the Kargil war forced on India, having the guts to test nukes and so forth, substantial military modernization.. on the black marks side, terror attacks from time to time (still peanuts compared to the free for all in UPA 1), the Kandahar thing (uncoordinated response to the hijack), the killing of BSF soldiers (and the disgusting way their bodies were carried) by Bangladeshis and the controversial Op Parakram (limited gains). The Godhra stuff was just made into something more than it was to attack the BJP. On the scale of riots previously held in India, it was not even amongst the worst, and nor did it spread nationwide. Only that the UPA came into power thereafter, and created a full court of jesters to attack and demonize the Hindu community and Modi. The end result is that Islamists now feel both victimized and also powerful (that they can go back to their usual tricks and no response will be forthcoming, either from the state or even the usual rioting).

All said and done, those were heady times for India despite the occasional misstep. There was a palpable sense that India was going someplace. The past eight years have been depressing beyond measure in comparison. Decaying infrastructure, steadily declining economic growth, and a huge attack on the very institutions of the state - from CBI to all others, to make them into political lackeys.
Fake victimization of the Hindu community created to play votebank politics and wholesale loot of the public money in scam after scam, and arrogant Govt ministers getting away with it all, thanks to a fully paid for and purchased Indian media.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 13 Sep 2013 02:00

If it is merely personal ambition that is fuelling opposition to NM from the likes of LKA, SS then fine.... the same ambition could also perhaps make them see the light (or the side on which the bread is buttered).

However, if it is the case that they are compromised, i.e. they have skeletons in their closets that the INC now uses to armtwist them, then their behaviour cannot change and they will only remain inside the tent to piss within. Their sabotage, shalya-niti will continue I fear. Better to nudge them (shove if nudges don't work) into leaving, IMHO...

And yes, if SS resigns as LoP, why our man Yashwant Sinha can take up the job....

member_27444 · Post by **member_27444** » 13 Sep 2013 02:02

In power you can quarrel
but in opposition you cant
If you do
you remain opposition
thats all.

yes the governance was better and still they lost why? EVM? then even now EVM is going to win unless something is done.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 13 Sep 2013 02:05

Amyrao wrote:In power you can quarrell
but in opposition you cant
If you do you remain opposition
thats all.

yes the governance was better and still they lost why?

They've quarrelled even in opposition, so there they still remain. Excitement about tomorrow is that the quarrells may finally be laid to RIP.

As for losing despite good governance, well apart from internal sabotage (that thing with Kalyan singh in UP, for instance), the EVMs also got introduced first in '04... No?

member_27444 · Post by **member_27444** » 13 Sep 2013 02:07

I have been pro BJP since many here were not even born.

Yesterday I spoke to many of my relatives
i asked them do you think its Namo Chance now?
They all say we wish but
BJP iska thakeda peda thekeda
one day sand line one day dung like

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 13 Sep 2013 02:12

Marten wrote:Placed a bet with a close friend over the scenario that Advani is taking flak now to build plan B - if they don't get to 272 (inc current allies), the alternative channels are being prepared now. Really big game to lose, so they're gaming it out fully. Won't say which side I bet for, the end result will be a BJP govt if they do this right. Ignore the intermediate phases, plan for all possible outcomes like a good project manager.

Very chankian

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 13 Sep 2013 02:13

As to why they lost. Thats the million dollar question. The Indian public sabotaged its own interests though if the voting was fair and equitable. Not the first time. But I no longer buy into this theory alone, after all the evidence of the brazen corruption and the amount of money in the system, circulating and siphoned out as well. In other words, its quite possible, that the NDA Govt was termed a danger by many vested interests abroad (their nuke tests and their hindu nationalist heritage upset a lot of folks) and they helped the INC, with funding and influence. And the BJP simply didnt understand the scale of what it was up against. The manner in which the 2002 riots were played up outside India deliberately ignoring any and every view of the Hindu side also bears mention

But the big strategic mistake made by even the BJP was to not allow SG to become PM. She would have been directly culpable for every mistake and hammered left right and center and become known far earlier for what she is. Instead, she smartly used MMS for cover. It speaks volumes about the average educated Indian, that most still buy into this charade, and think this sycophant is a victim, as versus somebody who played along with all the corruption and nepotism, so he could be PM

member_27444 · Post by **member_27444** » 13 Sep 2013 02:27

Remember the esteemed Rahul Mehata who was hounded out for sepeaking truth and who gave us the acronym NJBPRE something like that...
he had provided lot of evidence in Lkg dealings with Stamp Scam, Harshid Mehta Scam etc and even about allowing mr Q in and out of Rajmata house...
well anyway LKg should now be going north to Himalayas for antima journey... even Krishna realized his time had come..... after all who is Red Krishna i mean Lall Kishen

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 13 Sep 2013 02:30

meanwhile INC tying up with money hungry Ms Mayawati. Game over for Modi? Or game has just begun?

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 13 Sep 2013 03:36

http://www.quora.com/Narendra-Modi/What ... xh&share=1

NAMO jokes by NAMO