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brihaspati wrote:(4) I know I have been accused of doing a gandhigiri by some here in advocating a more political foundational approach evenw hile suffering atrocities. Just to clarify and also to illustrate the subtle differences between the two approaches : for MKG, the political was also a foundation for future violence once the initial nurturing was over [yes he betrayed this acceptance of inevitability of violence as state tool on several occasions but of course never in the context of Hindu retaliation/retribution/self-defense against Muslims].

But MKG was also carefully looking to eliminate those elements within the Hindu that would provide resistance against Muslim or Christian aggression - by overlaying Hindu ethos with a framework for non-retaliation or non-retribution. This was - for whatever his ulterior objective or clouded vision - effectively to provide continued space in Bharat as a nation for the Islamist or Christianist - which in turn implied an effective space for intervention by foreign hostile imperialistic religious cores. At the same time it would secure state power for the model of authority he seems to have been most comfortable with - not unbridled democracy and will of the "masses" - but a trusteeship maintained under a small group "who knew best", and perhaps driven by a particular strand of traditional varna-based thinking where the "Brahmin" should "guide" paternally the "lower" orders, and this model perfectly fitted into the eventual outcome of a "Kashmirir-Brahmin" dynasty ruling "India".

Hence for him emasculating "Hindu" militancy and channelizing it into a self-restricting bind that would allow the future state to emasculate the majority for effective personal power - where the apparatus of state power was dependent on the apparatus of personal power - would be an important objective while building up the national movement.

For me, the objective is the exact opposite. But at the initial stages the overt tactical approach may seem to coincide because I do not want the future trajectory of an effective majority framework that can and will obtain coercive power over foreign imperialist interests - to be jeopardized and eliminated at one go by the current concentration of forces at state hands.

Territorial counter consolidation, taking over of the supply channels of arms and supporting resources from the "east" [and some coming through the southern corridor through the Maha route that connects the western coasts], takeover of the financial networks and elimination of the drugs/smuggler networks to dry off the clergy's resource base, and take-over of land - are the first basic steps.

Effective use of political parties and groups on a common minimal programme of confining the mullah to his present haunts.

The mullahs have an effective network in the Terai. This is still remote area - and they obviously have chosen it to stay close to the networks of supply that operate from within Nepal. This is the area that should be populated by "our" people. If it provides opportunities to mullahs/reds/EJ's it should offer the same to us. Even if "our" presence forces the national gov and intel [who are very very aware of what is going on and yet allow thes ethinsg to go on] to come in and force everyone out to prevent the "Hindu" from becoming as powerful as the favoured Muslim/EJ/Red ninja non-state actors who also miraculously usually happen to go against problematic entities for certain parties - that does take out one effective nurturing area for clergy.

These things have to be built up in stages. Ahista ahista as they say in khaas jabaan.
B ji, I agree with this.

At this stage, I believe Hindutva is in the "Protecting" stage, and moving slowly into "Defending" - but it should be the peaceful and calm sort of defense. To slowly stop the continuing loss of social and political space. To perhaps gain some space to expand.

Stages of Doing

Another point I would add to your set of objectives would be more widespread education (secular and also Sanskritization) via networks of schools and dharmik sansthas.

This below-the-radar Protecting phase and peaceful Defending phase must last until there is overt attack from the enemy and the dynasty, when they unleash clear and systematic violence on the natives. Of course, the Muzzafarpur attack on the Jats was also violence, but so far it is sporadic, and indicates the constant threat of violence more than actual blitzkrieg on their part. It is the dynasty's way of saying "Apres moi le deluge" - to both, the Secularists and the Momineen.

Also, those so-called "Hindutva"-vadis who try to jump stages and provoke open, agitated confrontation are inviting disaster. They are either stupid, or more likely they are traitors. It is not the time right now to even make an aggressive Ram-Janmabhoomi issue center stage, though it does need to be firmly-but-calmly kept in expanding public discourse. Those that seek to upset the simmering pot are not helping at all at this stage.

Instead, Modi's program of peaceful economic development, building social capital, and facilitating the re-planting of cultural capital via dharmic sansthas, developing industrial networks, etc. is the right way to go.
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brihaspati wrote:These things have to be built up in stages. Ahista ahista as they say in khaas jabaan.
I also second what rsangram said in his latest post.

For instance, going after clerics all over India will force the entire majority community to get involved, due to RoPers expected over reaction.

Until then, there is no incentive for Hindus elsewhere to get involved, in far away local conflicts such as the one occurring now in UP. This is how Hindus have been driven out of Pakistan, Bangladesh and Kashmir valley. But this dynamic is different for RoPers who do get influenced politically through clerical sermons.

I think it will not be possible for any regime in India to go against active wishes of the majority community on a large scale. Of course, certain regimes can afford to go against the interests of the majority community in small scale conflicts, as we have seen again and again.

If the regime's top-down policies cannot protect its citizenry from clerics' inspired violence, a bottom-up initiative has to happen for the majority community to survive.
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rsangram ji, please read my post above. [Edited out by self.]

To push buttons on the basis of alarmism is classic suicide and giving a noble cause away.

You say you want to do something urgently? - OK, get involved in mass education, either secular empowerment via the sciences, or in Sanskritization or Dharmicization. Raise awareness, shape ideas, etc.
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Technology that can work against impersonation, false witnesses in court as well. There used to be fingerprint readers on laptops, they could adopt those or even add them to smart phones

Instant Aadhaar-linked ID verification for mobile connections
Government is likely to finalise norms by the end of this year that will enable instant identity verification using Aadhaar card biometrics data for getting a new mobile connection.

Retailers will take the impression of customers’ fingers to match it online with that of the UID card data at the point of sale that will serve as the address as well as the ID proof.

A pilot project for the same has also been conducted in Andhra Pradesh recently. As per estimates, about 56 million of the state’s 86 million population has been enrolled by UIDAI and accounts for 25 per cent of Aadhaar cards issued across the country so far.

A lot of paperwork will be reduced as the retailers selling SIM cards will be able to get customers’ profile and biometric authentication details online with UIDAI server, said Department of Telecom officials.

“The process is underway. We will refer the matter to the Home Ministry and after getting the approval, the notification is likely be issued by the end of this year,” a DoT official told PTI.

Although vendors accept Aadhaar as ID proof, customers are required to supply additional documents such as passport or driving licence to get the connection. The operators then need to verify the details, which takes a few days, before activating the connection.

Strengthening the security rules for providing new mobile connections, DoT last year came with out tough guidelines which called for physical verification of facts provided by subscribers.

They also made operators responsible for inaccurate information provided by subscribers for taking new prepaid and postpaid mobile connections.

Once the new guidelines are issued by the year end, operators can issue new mobile connections using only the Aadhaar card, which will speed up the verification process as everything will be done online.

“This will increase the accountability, both at the end of the retailer, distributor and telecom service provider.

Millions of kilograms worth of paper today can be saved if the online Aadhar card is accepted as proof of identity,” said an industry official.

Operators such as Bharti Airtel, Vodafone and Reliance Communications have agreed on issuing new mobile connections using just the Aadhaar card.

As per an industry official, the pilot project has shown successful results and has helped in achieving the objective of instant and secured paperless activation.
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rsangram ji, apologies for the sharp retort on my part. I hope we can move beyond name-calling.

Now, what part of narm-o-ahista do you not agree with?
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Agnimitra wrote:rsangram ji, apologies for the sharp retort on my part. I hope we can move beyond name-calling.

Now, what part of narm-o-ahista do you not agree with?
No problems.

I will delete my post. Then we can move on.
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Agnimitra wrote:rsangram ji, apologies for the sharp retort on my part. I hope we can move beyond name-calling.

Now, what part of narm-o-ahista do you not agree with?
It is not so much that I disagree with the strategy of going slow in any context. It is a question of what is most appropriate in a given circumstance. In order to conclude whether one should go slow or not, one has to examine the premise. Yes, I do come from the premise that the situation is alarming. You dont. If the situation is indeed not alarming for the Hindus then perhaps we can go slow, because we have time. I will defend my premise here, because in so doing, the conclusion will be obvious.

I do not believe that any civilization and culture has had to tolerate and bear the magnitude, types, severity and the long duration of attacks on it that the Hindu has had to endure. These attacks have come in all possible forms. Psychological, emotional, physical, sexual, spiritual and every other form imaginable. Even cultures that disappeared or were thoroughly defeated, did not suffer the combination of abuse that the Hindu has suffered. The Egyptians, for instance did not suffer that long of an abuse. It was a slow retrenchment from all accounts. The Persians were overwhelmed in pretty short order by the Islamists. The native American struggles were only about 300 years. The Hindu suffered for more than a 1000 years of slavery, subjugation, countless rape of his women, his spirit. He was constantly told, he was less than human, a kafir, his women were available to be taken at will, his Gods were just idols, his religion nothing but superstition, his life totally worthless, his existence totally dependent at the mercy of his "akas". The Hindus places of worship were destroyed in the thousands, in an assault on his spirit, so deep, so lethal and if that was not enough, materials from the Hindu's destroyed places of worship were used to construct places of worship of other religions at the same place. So a Hindu was forced to witness the monument of his inferiority, his defeat, his worthlessness, his Gods' impotence, every minute of every day, of his life. A Hindu was forced to pay Jaziya, a tax in his own land, to live in his own land. Countless Hindu men and women were taken as slaves, sold as slaves, tortured, beaten, maimed. Try and feel, what it must have been like for these men and women. Think and feel for just one moment, what it must be like for Prithviraj, captured and blinded by Gori and taken as his slave. There were countless Prithvirajs.

Then there were the conversions, by the sword. Conversions of thousands and millions, either by the sword, or by the bribe. Not only were there these conversions, then there was ultimately a dismemberment of our land, the holiest of all lands, not just a dismemberment of our land, our bodies, our minds and our spirits were dismembered too. Each and every Hindu was reminded during partition, his true place in the world. At the feet of the Islamist and the European. Under the boot of the Islamist "aka" or the White "massa". And even after partition, the Islamic population kept growing, growing, growing, in proportion to the Hindu population to where it is now more than 40% on the subcontinent.

Then there was this "secular democratic" constitution and system of governance established in India post 1947, which really was the true death knell for the Hindu. Why ? Because it was like giving alcohol to the alcoholic. The Hindu, after centuries of being beaten down, trampled upon, being treated like dirt, had already given up, already had let his spirit die, and become progressively corrupt before 1947. Now with this "secular democratic" system of governance in place, the only freedom he got was to become more corrupt and infinitely corrupt. There was now no check on him to sink into the abyss of corruption. The Hindu still was not free to do anything else. He was hated, ridiculed, held in contempt, made fun of everywhere in the world including in India, but he was free in his home, his homeland to indulge in the vilest acts of corruption known to man. India after 1947, put sodom and gonora to shame, not necessarily in sexual depravity, but worse, spiritual depravity.

Then there is this migration. Only yesterday there was one article in the Times of India, which reported that the Bangla migration into India was the biggest migration in history.

Now consider these facts.

1. Is there even an acknowledgment by anyone, any historians, any media, any institution of higher learning or research, that these atrocities were committed upon the Hindu. Or there is this constant suppression of facts, rewriting of history, total non acknolwedgment of what the Hindu has gone through ? Do we have a single institution in India, including our Shankaracharyas or any other Hindu religious organization that publishes factual and well researched facts about what happened to the Hindu in the past 1000 years ? We only know about most of these atrocities from some Western sources, those one in a million Westerner, who happened to honestly chronicle these facts. Or we know all this from the boasts of Islamic writers of that time, that bragged about what they did to the Hindus, in their writings about that time.

2. The Hindus do not have a political homeland they can call their own. India is not a Hindu homeland. Our constitution says so. And more importantly, in reality it is not so. A Hindu in India is less free to practice his religion than the follower of just about any other religion (when I say a Hindu, I mean Hindu, Buddhist, Jain and Sikh and also native animists). When that is the case, how can India be the homeland of the Hindus. Why should a Hindu not have a homeland ? When there is no homeland, there are no institutions that a Hindu can create that will defend him, that will advance him, that will look after his survival, that will revitalize his culture, that will evolve his culture, where he can act with confidence, where his spirit is not so down and out that all he does is indulge in corruption and defiles his own land and defacates and urinates on everything that should be sacred to him.

3. Hindus have no army, no arms, no friends in the world, no institutions that will protect them, their property or their territory. Besides an average Hindu is poor, poorer than his counterpart. This is a fact. Can you disagree with it ? So, what support system do we have ? What are we living on ? Thin air ?

4. As I mentioned above, the Islamic populations where the Hindus live(subcontinent) is now almost 40%. The moment it hits 50%, it is all over. The Islamics, once they are in a majority, have no concept of live and let live. Once the subcontinental population of Islamists hits 51%, the game is all over for the Hindus. We are only 10 or 12% away from that eventuality. Either we convert or we die, are the only choices the Islamists will give us.

And I have not even begun yet. I can go on and on and on about the dismal spot that the Hindu is in. I am sure everyone here can add to what I have said about the desperate condition of the Hindu.

If anyone is not alarmed by the above, and not an alarmist, his or she is an idiot or corrupt to a point of being invested heavily in the current ruling setup and they are such short term thinkers that they dont see that they are trading long term death, just for a few pieces of sliver in the short run.

However, if you are still not alarmed by all this, then your conclusion is right on the money. We have all the time in the world. Dilli abhi door hai. Gimme that next bribe, saki! and shake that booty, baby, ahista ahista
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From the Urdu Press
Muzaffarnagar violence

The editor of Inquilab, Shakeel Shamsi, on September 11 writes: “The responsibility for the riot in Muzaffarnagar has to be attributed to political leaders. Perhaps this is the first riot where cases have been filed against members of the assembly and Parliament belonging to different political parties in such large numbers... most religious leaders did not appear to want the conflict to be prolonged. That politicians are invested in this riot is extremely worrisome, because if this trend continues, no one will try to garner votes via constructive methods, but would find pretexts to engineer a riot.”

Rashtriya Sahara, in its editorial, writes: “The most regrettable aspect of the riot in Muzaffarnagar is that it is well known the parliamentary elections are fast approaching and much is at stake for many political parties. According to reports, Home Minister [Sushilkumar] Shinde had warned at least 11 state governments that riots could not be ruled out there. It is also known that the resonance of victory or defeat in UP is heard in Delhi, and it is believed that the path to power in Delhi goes through the state. If rulers, political leaders and those responsible for the maintenance of law and order did not remember this, it is condemnable.”

Sahafat, in its editorial on September 11, is critical of the fact that despite the governor’s report to the Centre based on intelligence alerts beforehand, “no effective action was taken by the state government”. Hamara Samaj, in its editorial (Sept 11), writes: “After the tragic murder of three young men following ‘an ordinary incident’ of (eve)teasing, the panchayats held in Deoband... and the violation of Section 144, the local administration did not wake up. The administration’s ambivalent attitude confirms the apprehension that, along with communal organisations, the government was also backing the rioters.”

Obama’s Dilemma

Nai Duniya, edited by former Samajwadi Party leader, Shahid Siddiqui, in its commentary (Sept 9-15) says “Syria is on fire, but those trying to extinguish it are worried that they may be burnt in the process ... Obama does not want his reputation to be damaged over Syria. That is why he wants the support of the US Congress for a restricted army action.” Inquilab, in its editorial on September 11, writes: “Undoubtedly, the sooner the dangerous [chemical] weapons are destroyed the better. But every peace-loving country, ruler or citizen, supporting such a move, would justifiably raise the question that if Damascus accepts the proposal and acts on it immediately, would all the countries with terrifying stocks of chemical and other weapons also destroy them?”

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http://sp.m.timesofindia.com//articleshow/22567416.cms
Gory Muzaffarnagar killings shake doctors
LUCKNOW: The brutality with which people were massacred in west UP clashes has shaken even the doctors at Muzaffarnagar district hospital who performed the postmortem of victims. The tales told by the doctors are horrific: a woman dismembered into two parts, charred bodies whose sex could not be ascertained and a ten-year-old kid whose head was smashed.A 12-member team of doctors has been working round the clock since September 7, conducting autopsy of victims of the state's deadliest communal clashes.So far, doctors have conducted postmortem of 53 victims. While 40 bodies were identified, 13 were beyond recognition. The team is doing autopsy of three to four corpses daily. The official toll climbed to 45 on Friday.On Friday, two highly decomposed bodies of men were brought to the hospital from Bhopa and Sikhera police stations. Both the victims could not be identified. Doctors said most of the riot victims were either stabbed or attacked with sharp-edged weapons.Recounting the horror, a senior doctor posted at the hospital said, "A family of four was killed brutally in Phugana town of Shamli. A woman was cut into two pieces. Cops brought her torso and abdomen separately to the hospital. It seemed the rioters had axed her and damaged her face with multiple blows of the weapon."The doctors said in Phugana, victims were targeted by rioters with wreaking vengeance. "Two severely charred bodies, including that of an eight-year-old kid, were brought to the hospital on September 10. Their sex could not be determined but we have preserved DNA samples for further examination," said a doctor. DNA samples of 11 more riot victims have been preserved. Several houses in the village were torched in the communal violence. Maximum charred bodies came from Phugana. At least 16 people from Phugana are feared dead.Another pocket targeted by rioters was Kutba, a village in Shahpur area of Muzaffarnagar. The victims in this village were attacked with firearms, sharp-edged weapons and wooden sticks.The administration has told doctors to speed up the autopsy process. So postmortems are being conducted in the night as well. But doctors complain the government is not sending additional teams of doctors from Shamli."Health department despite reminders did not ensure that some doctors from Shamli help us in taking care of patients. Serious cases from the neighbouring district are referred to Muzaffarnagar district hospital and we remain extremely overburdened," said a doctor."Dissecting body of the charred kid left me in shock and I could not have proper meal for the next 24 hours. I had never seen brutality of such magnitude before," said a doctor. Twenty one critical cases were brought to the hospital, out of whom 20 survived.
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It is evident that all the victims who died a gory death were all Hindus else MSM would have dropped names.
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BSP MP Qadir Rana: "Tau khuda kasam Muzaffar Nagar main aik Hindu baccha bhi Zinda Nahi bach Payega " ( I Swear by Allah, in Muzaffarnagar I Will Not allow Even One Hindu Child to Escape)

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php? ... 3362272524

Muzaffarnagar violence - Kadir Rana, Noor Salim, Jameel Ahmed incited Mob on 30th August



Thanks prahaarji for pointing it out.
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Surasenaji, you have put an incomplete youtube URL. The part after v= is missing.
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महापंचायत स्थल पर तो एक कार में आरडीएक्स भी मिला। समय रहते पकड़ा गया, नहीं तो कई जिंदगियां स्वाहा हो जाती। बाद में पुलिस-प्रशासन ने इस उसे दबा लिया।
-- नरेश टिकैत
Chandragupta wrote:It is evident that all the victims who died a gory death were all Hindus else MSM would have dropped names.
IIRC most hindu deaths occured at jolly canal. And those dead were also burnt and some bodies dumped into Canal, they were burnt to hide the marks of bullet injuries and type of bullets used. SP promptly increased flow of canal water so that bodies may never be traced (hearsay). Those with the axe injuries and torn limbs are mostly muslim killed in retribution in remote villages where they were employed as farmhands. I will say this, we must not fall into trap of comparing stats between both communities.

Because whoever petrated this crime kept exactly this psychology in mind. And they also wanted the resultant polarisation. Mayawati today looks like a genius, because she kept these elements in check. She was a hundred times more capable than these messengers of death, whatever that son's name Yadav and his father ISI Yadav. Today I realize her true self-worth, yes she was corrupt but she never ever allowed anybody to get away with these cock-and-bull games.

When vengeance is due, it must be taken and if not then human psyche will be scarred for longer time and wounds will not heal but worsen but the human psychology must not be tarred and smeared with these comparisons of death stats because that is exactly where a bunch of pakistanis want us to go and that is where we should not go. Human conscience is too precious a possession to be discarded away for these rats.
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There are no debates at secular media about massacre at canal. Just like how it happened in Godhra train attack and burning of Hindu pilgrims. The whole secular set up never questions this.

The NHRC is silent so is women's commission and other such Democratic legal and constitutional set ups.

The defense personnel were attacked too and same can be said about it.

Another thing is how Maayaawatee behen is silent or with con race on this when she herself has seen to better law and order.
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Slightly dated, but a good read on what is happening in Kerala:

http://www.hinduhumanrights.info/kerala ... s-country/
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Warning Very Graphic :The 2 Hindu Jat Brothers killed in Muzaffarnagar

According to reports it’s been alleged that Muzzafarnagar has been on fire for over a week now & it has been totally blacked out by the Indian English media until now because the perpetrators of most of the violence are Muslims. They have only started covering this because Muslims killed 2 reporters from CNN IBN but the Hindi media has been covering it from the start. The army has been called in & they are being fired on from mosques. Reports have been coming in that Hindus coming from a big panchayat meeting were ambushed and shot, they had to jump into the canal to save their lives.
The brothers were killed because they beat up a Muslim man harassing their sister which caused his death.
A Muslim mob gathered, brutally beating them and killing them.

Also According to people in the area women have been raped or sexually harassed for sometime now
Here are a few news reports from the last couple of years to give you a sample:

30/08/2013 MUZAFFARNAGAR Muslim cleric arrested for abducting 11-year-old girl http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes ... affarnagar

29/12/2012 Muzaffarnagar Girl raped in Panchayat premises (accused Shauqueen and Rahil) http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes ... ce-station

18/02/2013 Woman gang-raped by four men, filmed in Muzaffarnagar (Naushad, Pravaiz, Kamal Hasan and Nazar ) http://www.dnaindia.com/india/1801209/r ... affarnagar

24/08/13 Class IX student raped by youth (Dilshad) in Muzaffarnagar http://zeenews.india.com/news/uttar-pra ... 71331.html

23/08/12 Muzaffarnagar: Schoolgirl gangraped by 5 youths in Muzaffarnagar (Main accused Salman other names suppressed)http://www.financialexpress.com/news/sc ... gar/992134

Islamic Justice as practiced in Muzaffaranagar: Brothers-in-law mercilessly gangrape woman with consent of panchayat http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/24-y ... 96827.html

21/12/2012 Muzaffarnagar panchayat offers rape victim Rs 1.5 lakh to keep quiet (accused Tasavvur) http://ibnlive.in.com/news/up-muzaffarn ... ef_article

24/06/2011 Muzaffarnagar Rape Case Mayawati suspends MLA Shahnawaz Rana on rape charge (then joined RLD) http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes ... ikhab-rana
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http://www.savetemples.org/2013/09/14/i ... ji-temple/
International Islamic College coming near TIRUPATHI; Is there a plan to Silence the bells and stop aarathi at Balaji Temple?I
Is there a plan to Silence the bells and stop aarathi at Balaji Temple?
After we received an email from different sources indicating that Heera International Islamic University is being built near Tirupathi with pictures of seven storied construction and the architect’s view of the University building, we have approached a number of our friends and other leaders in Tirupathi and Hyderabad to investigate the accuracy of the location and the status of the building.Global Hindu Heritage Foundation (GHHF) was able to get about ten pictures of the building and the nearby places. Many of our friends have been trying to find out the sinister plans of starting Islamic College near Tirupathi. Following information is being provide for your purview:
1) The seven layer/storied building is being constructed in Chandragiri village which is about 13 kilometers from Tirupathi.2) There is big sign posted on the main road to indicate that it is the home of “Heera International Islamic College (HIIC).” On the same sign board it is written “Women Arabic College.”
3) Down below the sign board, on the ground there is a sign “Swarnamukhi River Rejuvenation Project.” The name Chandragiri is also printed on the sign board.
4) HIIC is being built approximately in a seven-acre lot. It appears that this land is parceled into few pieces of lots.
5) It is noted that this land was acquired in 2007. Research is ongoing for the authenticity as well as the circumstances under which this land was acquired.6) This land belonged to a VISHNU Temple, known as Timmappa Temple, with a very tall Rajagopuram according to the villagers. They were in dilapidated condition for many years.
7) We have taken TEN new pictures to indicate that they are building the HIIC in the Vishnu Temple complex. The pictures indicate the dilapidated Rajagopuram on the left side (Westside of the building).8) It appears that HIIC never got permission to start the college. No permission was granted before they started the construction.
9) Tirupati Urban Development Authority (TUDA) area includes 70 kilometers radius from Tirupathi. Chandragiri is only 13 kilometers from Tirupati. Any construction in Chandragiri should have the prior approval from TUDA. No such permission was granted to start this construction.
10) According to TUDA zonal rules no permission to construct any building can be granted, if it has more than five layer/stories plus stilt.
11) It appears that a letter was sent to the Special officer in Collector’s Office to grant approval for permission for construction, which is totally against the Zonal rules.
12) Villagers in the area feel that some local politicians are behind this idea of constructing an Islamic College at this location.
13) Villagers feel that Vishnu Temple land is illegally occupied by HIIC and building is being constructed illegally.

Why near Tirupathi?
Is there a plan to silence the bells and stop the aarathi at Lord Venkateswara Temple? Is there a plan to keep buying lands as close to Balaji Temple as possible to start Minarets with high volume loud speakers announcing that “Allah is great.” Do you think that it is a far-fetched imagination? Please take a look at few examples of the recent times: a) The present government has asked some Temples in old Hyderabad to stop aarathi and also stop ringing the temple bells as the Muslims celebrate Eid. B) Swami Paripoornananda was asked not to visit the Bhagya Lakshmi Temple because Muslims may be upset. He was arrested and taken in a car to have darshan only from the police car; never allowed him to get down and go to the Temple. C) In Hyderabad, the Hanuman Temple was desecrated by throwing Beef into the Temple compound and splashing the green color water on the walls to create animosity in the community. D) Akbaruddi Owaisi made a statement to remove the Bhagya Lakshmi Temple from the premises of Charminar in the old city. He even made a blood thirsty pronouncement that “We are 25 crores, you are 100 crores. Remove the police for 15 minutes and we will show you who has more courage and strength.”

Now you can imagine what they might do at this Holy place for Hindus!
1) For many years the Christians and Muslims have been eyeing on Tirupathi to make it their place of worship. For the last ten centuries Muslims have targeted the most auspicious places where Hindu Temples were located. They have a history of occupying, and destroying Hindu Temples and rebuild Mosques either on Top of the demolished Temples or next to these Temples because their religion teaches them to dispel Idol worshippers.

2)e Muslims headed by Ms. Aalima Shaikh Nowhera started this HIIC to provocate, demean and destroy, over a period of time, the most scared places for Hindus. Once they start this College, they will start expanding to places as close to Lord Venkateswara Temple as possible and create terror and rampage in the villages, the techniques they have perfected over the centuries.

3) Why not Hyderabad? Chandragiri village where this HIIC is being built has less than .05 percent Muslim population. Chittoor district, where Tirupathi and Chandragiri are located, has about 9 percent Muslim population. Hyderabad city has about 40 percent Muslim population. It is only natural to think that an institution like HIIC should have been built near Hyderabad or some other major city in India.Few examples of the possible Evil Plans at Tirupathi

1) christians under the leadership of the then Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh Mr. Y S Rajasekhara Reddy had devised a plan to break up the seven hills, make five hills as the property of the State and eventually convert it into a Christian property to build Mega churches next to Balaji Temple. In 2004 it was announced that the five hills would be taken over by the government for converting them into a picnic spot with multiplexes, food courts, commercial lots, sports centers and entertainment infrastructures including a rope-way to reach the top of the hills. The whole objective was to destroy the Hindu culture and convert Hindus into the Christian faith with malice, incentives, deception, allurement and lying.
2) Christian propaganda on Tirumala Hills has been continuing for years, with distributing the Christian pamphlets to the pilgrims on the hill and trying to convert them to Christianity. Even today no body knows how many Christians are employed. Even with a strict ordinance for TTD against the employment of other religious people, they get employment with false statements and deceptive arsenal they have in their hands.
3) Now, Muslims have joined the bandwagon to continue their unfinished business of converting Bharath into an Islamic State.Approached Political and Community Leaders
We tried to approach different community leaders and politicians of different parties – Congress, BJP and TDP. We could not reach any Congress leader so far. TTD representative asked us to approach the concerned minister.We were able to talk to NVSS Prabhakar, BJP leader who also started investigating the matter. He had a news conference on Friday (12th). He questioned the motive behind the construction of HIIC. He even traced the history of religious activities of Christians and Muslims in and around Tirupathi for the past ten years and their attempt to take over the Temple property and their missionary activities. More details will be forthcoming.
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these series of posts do not belong here. kindly move to appropriate thread in GDF.
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^^ You are referring to my post? If so, feel free to delete.
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Things are still grim despite what DDM wants us to believe:

Violence erupts in UP again
Muzaffarnagar district was hit by fresh violence on Saturday in which two people suffered serious injuries even as tension simmered in rural areas of Saharanpur and Meerut districts after more bodies were recovered from Ganga canal.

Armed men numbering about 50 opened fire at a group of people in a forested area in Phugana locality in the district on Saturday. Two persons sustained serious injuries in the firing and were admitted to hospital while others managed to escape, according to police sources here. Tension flared up in the area after the firing and security personnel in strength were deployed to prevent any reaction, sources said.

Tension also simmered in the neighbouring Saharanpur district after an attack on a youth. In Meerut, tension prevailed following killing of a youth a couple of days back. Two bodies were recovered from the Ganga canal in Muzaffarnagar and one in Meerut district taking the number of dead in the communal violence to 47.
One can safely imagine as to which community the 50 armed men belonged to. Has to be those evil Parsis
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abhishek_sharma wrote:^^ You are referring to my post? If so, feel free to delete.
no, the two posts after yours, rsangram and someone else, that I have deleted.
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dna special: Jolly canal killings triggered the Muzaffarnagar riots
Friday, Sep 13, 2013, 6:34 IST | Place: Muzaffarnagar | Agency: DNA
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People at the Shahpur relief camp. They fled to the camp from their violence-hit villages. - Arjit Sen/DNA

Satyender Kumar Baliyan shudders as he recounts how he escaped the massacre at Gang Nahar, popularly known as Jolly canal, last Saturday.

Baliyan, 24, was among a group of 2,000 villagers returning home after attending the Mahapanchayat hosted by several Jat communities of western Uttar Pradesh in nearby Kawal village, when they were ambushed by a mob, armed with assault rifles and other sophisticated weapons.

“Since, I was with the NCC for more than three years during my school days, I could easily tell that our assailants were using AK47 rifles and other weapons,” he told dna at the site of the massacre. The mob set on fire 18 tractor trollies and three motorbikes of the villagers.

Local people say the Jolly canal massacre turned into the communal riots of Muzaffarnagar, in which the official death toll is 45. But local people say the number is much higher.

Eyewitnesses say after the mass killings, the attackers dumped the bodies in the canal, which meets the Ganges river in adjoining Haridwar district. So far, six bodies have been fished out.

“We were unarmed. And they(attackers) ambushed us like Naxals. They started firing indiscriminately,” Baliyan said.

Omkar Singh Rana of Baseda village, cannot find his elder brother Brijpal Singh Rana since the attack on Saturday. “It is not only my elder brother... there are hundreds of people who have gone missing after the massacre. Though six bodies have been found, we are sure there will be many more,” Rana told dna.

The villagers accused the local administration of not acting swiftly.

The police allowed the attackers to flee, some said. “The district administration has not made any effort to track the missing persons or find the bodies. Even the water flow in the canal was not controlled; it was deliberately increased to sweep away the dumped bodies,” said Bhanwar Singh, pradhan of Baseda village.

The district administration has registered 40 missing complaints till Wednesday. But often cases are not registered because officials think people might have migrated to other parts of the state.

District magistrate Kaushal Raj Sharma admitted that the number of missing persons is more than the registered cases. “In case of the Jolly canal, we have recovered six bodies so far. Work is on to trace others, if any,” he said. “But in some cases people have migrated to other places. And since there is no contact with family members, they lodge missing complaints.”

The Jat community went on the rampage after the killings at Jolly canal. “Blaming Muslims for the Jolly canal attack, Jats set our houses on fire and killed our women and kids.”

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/1888043/r ... agar-riots
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 601966.cms

kishtwar riots isi attempt at ethnic cleansing
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Haan haan local muzzies are all secular and lovey dovey onlee, it's the ISI and ISI alone which has been doing all this by itself. :roll:
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Non-Muslim may call themselves secular, liberal, atheist, theist, left-wing etc.. but Muslims will follow their great Islamic culture whether others like it not not. They have the right to choose their ideology...

http://indianmuslimpost.blogspot.in/201 ... riots.html
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Threat to Mr. Narendra Modi

Now that BJP has declared Mr. Modi as its candidate, the level of threats posed to him by local radical groups and Pakistan have increased many folds.

Since, as part of a democratic campaign, Mr. Modi has to make public speeches all over India, the security apparatus faces the nearly impossible task of protecting him.

Can Indian democratic system protect its leaders and let the will of people speak through elections?

From North Africa to Middle East to South Asia, Muslim radical groups have used democratic elections as a vehicle to get to power and to advance their agenda.

This is now increasingly the case in India.

Even the West is in no hurry to help hold elections in Egypt, because the radical group, the Muslim Brotherhood, may still emerge with a strong showing.

It is legitimate to ask the following question: when India's largest minority appears to be mostly controlled by radicals, what good is to have the elections as usual?
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Pretty impressive, especially for an org that some in of our ruling establishment are convinced doesn't even exist.

90 ‘ready-to-use’ IEDs found in IM hideouts

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New Delhi: Seventeen days after the arrest of Indian Mujahideen chief Yasin Bhatkal, one of India’s most wanted terrorists, another discovery has left intelligence agencies stunned.

If sources are to be believed, agencies have recovered a whopping 90 IEDs (improvised explosive devices) from Zephyr Heights in Mangalore and Abdullapur in Hyderabad among other hideouts, indicating that the terrorist organization was planning a series of blasts across the country.

In what can be considered as further evidence of the plan, all these devices were almost ready for use at the instance of Yasin and his aide Assadullah Akhtar alias Haddi. “Only the circuitry was not connected to the IEDs otherwise these bombs were ready to use,” said a top intelligence officer. Several unattached timers, batteries, detonators and shrapnels have also been recovered from various hideouts. All the IEDs, prima facie filled with ammonium nitrate, have been sent to forensic laboratories for examination.

A ‘singing’ Yasin Bhatkal — police jargon for an accused who is cooperating in interrogation — has revealed that he jointly prepared all these IEDs over several months with Pakistani bomb-expert Waqas, Tabrez (Assadullah Akhtar alias Haddi) and Tehsin Akhtar alias Monu since 2011.

The IEDs were reportedly being guarded by Yasin’s confidante Tehsin and Waqas. But after Yasin’s arrest on August 28, they fled from their flat in a hurry, said a source. The bombs that went off
in Hyderabad’s Dilsukhnagar on February 21, 2013 were reportedly made in one of these hideouts.

Yasin, however,has not disclosed the future attack plans as yet, but officials believe the IEDs were to be used for a series of blasts. The IM founder, alongwith Tehsin, received “big amounts” for preparing the bombs and other expenses in Mangalore through Western Union money transfer, said an officer.

Yasin himself has not visited these places since 2013 as he had been exposed too much in previous blasts. But he used to interact with Monu and Waqas through email and on phone from numbers obtained through fake IDs. “Although Yasin himself arranged material for explosives from various places in Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka in the past, he was instructed by Riyaz and Iqbal Bhatkal earlier this year that he should not go to India and stay in Nepal,” said an officer.

NIA and other agencies have identified some places where IM members used to procure ammonium nitrate. It is suspected that IM operatives work alongwith some sleeper cells in the south for logistical activities. “Riyaz and Iqbal have old friends in Karnataka and Andhra Pradesh who may have helped in arranging rented accommodations for Waqas and Tehsin and earlier for Yasin,” the officer said.
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Hari Seldon wrote:Pretty impressive, especially for an org that some in of our ruling establishment are convinced doesn't even exist.

90 ‘ready-to-use’ IEDs found in IM hideouts
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Looks like Congress house cleaning in full force.

I predict simple majority for NM.
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Looks like INC is really cleaning up in case they dont come back to power!

http://www.dailypioneer.com/todays-news ... et-im.html

Indian Netas part of the ISI's Fake note racket:Bhatkal

Startling revelations, that could hit the penetration of Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) in the political class of India and Nepal, have been made by Indian Mujahideen (IM) mastermind Yasin Bhatkal.

The militant has revealed the presence of about 200 major Fake Indian Currency Notes (FICN) dealers along the Indo-Nepal border, including politicians from either side. The IM co-founder has disclosed that as many as ten undercover officials of ISI operate a flourishing FICN ‘business’ out of Kathmandu.

These undercover ISI operatives, comprising senior officials of Pakistan Army (colonel and major rank) are not part of the diplomatic staff and stay outside the Embassy or related premises. The ISI-run FICN nodes in Nepal are active in Birganj, Pokhara, Viratnagar and Gaur, the IM mastermind told the interrogators.

Bhatkal also told interrogators about the presence of two dozen IM operatives who have been trained y the ISI to carry out the jehadi agenda from Nepal to target India.

The ISI has also established links with Nepalese Maoists to further their ties with Naxals in India and intensify attacks here and bring newer areas under the ambit of ultra-Left extremism.

Bhatkal has also revealed that the ISI is exploring ways to supply weapons and explosives to Naxal groups through the Nepalese Maoists.Besides this, Pakistan’s notorious agency is said to be supporting the anti-talk faction of ULFA, with funds, weapons and training at a facility in Bangladesh.

While funding to Indian terror and insurgent groups is channeled through the hawala network, weapons are routed from Bangladesh via the North-East. In the recent past, Naxal activities have been reported from Assam, Tripura and Meghalaya.

Bhatkal has already divulged ISI’s funding to certain groups to revive Sikh militancy. FICN is a widely prevalent mode of terror financing, a primary mechanism for destabilizing the country, economically as well as by undermining the faith of the common man in its ‘legal tender’, an Intelligence official said.

The networks in place for the movement of FICN as well as hawala are estimated to be highly evolved and are suspected to lend themselves as infrastructure for gunrunning, transportation of explosives, provision of hideouts and communication channels for terrorists. The revelations by Bhatkal have given security agencies major insights into the FICN circulation channels and linkages with terror financing, sources in the NIA and IB said
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The sources said movement of FICN is channeled through various indirect routes from several countries and by different modes of transport. Nepal has become a major hub of FICN movement with UAE and Malaysia being two other nations used by the ISI as third country bases for movement of FICN. Organised crime networks like the so called D-Company of Dawood Ibrahim is also a big player in the evolved FICN distribution chain.

“The extensive and well-structured network of Dawood, using proxies, has made monitoring and detection extremely difficult for the security agencies. The revelations by Bhatkal could reveal the layered structures of the illegal trade in fake currency, its quantum and penetration of D-Company in India’s neighbourhood, especially Nepal,” the sources added. The proceeds of FICN trade by Dawood are estimated to have made inroads into the economic framework of the country through diverse activities, such as the infotainment sector, sand-mining in coastal areas, extortion racket, and smuggling of narcotics and gambling in sports activities. Parts of the funds are also pumped into terrorist activities, officials added.
Dawood Ibrahim appears to be a one man mafia! the whole ruling political apparatus is in cahoots with him.
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Yasin Bhatkal clears the air about IM role in Mumbai Train blasts

Seven years after the Mumbai train blasts on July 11, 2006, arrested Indian Mujahideen terrorist Yasin Bhatkal has revealed that the explosive used in the attack was provided by the group’s Karachi-based co-founder Riyaz Bhatkal in order to avenge the 2002 Gujarat riots and not Lashkar-e-Taiba as claimed by the state police. As many as seven pressure cooker bombs exploded in local trains within a span of 11 minutes at the peak hours killing as many as 209 persons and grievously injuring another 714.

The Maharashtra police had charge-sheeted 28 persons and arrested 13. Yasin said that the blasts were the first joint operation of Bhatkal and Azamgarh-based terror modules. Azamgarh born Sadiq Israr Sheikh helped Riyaz in bringing the two groups together.


Sheikh came in touch with Riyaz in Mumbai in the late 1990s and was arrested from the city on November 24, 2008. The Azamgarh module was headed by Atif Ameen, killed in the Batla House encounter on September 19, 2008.

Though Yasin didn’t participate in the 7/11 Mumbai attack, his confession is an open secret among security agencies that the operation was of IM and that LeT or those arrested had nothing to do with it.

Despite Sheikh describing the attack in detail, the case was never reopened.

Yasin and Assadullah Akhtar alias Haddi have told interrogators that the attack was designed to target Gujarati businessmen travelling in first class coaches. The RDX used in the pressure cooker bombs was supplied to Riyaz Bhatkal by a courier named Jalaluddin Mullah alias Babu Bhai, who was arrested by the IB and UP Police in June 2007. The timer bombs were made by Azamgarh module bomb makers Ariz Khan and Arif Badar, close friends of Sadiq Sheikh and Atif Ameen.

Although Maharashtra police arrested Ehtesham Siddiqui and 12 others in the 2006 case, the former Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) secretary of Mumbai cried before his interrogators claiming innocence in the case. Nearly two years after the blasts, SIMI’s president Safdar Nagori was picked up from Indore on March 27, 2008. Nagori is learnt to have begged his interrogators to release his close friend Ehtesham and hang him instead. Several calls made to the Mumbai Police went unanswered.



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[url=http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/Sleuths-take-Bhatkal-help-to-unravel-Bihar-module/Article1-1122230.aspx?hts0021]Unravelling Bihar Module]


Top Indian Mujahideen leader Yasin Bhatkal was flown to Darbhanga in Bihar on Saturday to retrace over the past decade the creation of the deadly Bihar module.


Meanwhile, parts of a pressure cooker and a black bag used in the February 21 Dilsukhnagar blasts were seized this month from Abdullanagar, on the outskirts of Hyderabad, at the behest of fellow IM leader Assadulla Akhtar alias Haddi.

Top government sources said Yasin had created a module of around 12 youth from Darbhanga, Samastipur, Madhubani and Purnia after befriending Fasih Mehmood at Anjuman College in Bhatkal, Karnataka, in 2002. While the radicalised Mehmood left to work in Saudi Arabia, Yasin motivated the north Bihar boys into jihad against India. Yasin was taken to Mohalla Chakjura, in the Lahariya Sarai police station area in Darbhanga, to identify the residence he shared with another IM cadre Danish.


Yasin's Bihar module comprised Tehsin Akhtar alias Monu of Samastipur, late Mohammed Qateel Siddiqui of Darbhanga, Gauhar Azzi Khomani of Darbhanga, Gayur Ahmad Jamali of Madhubani, Abdur Rehman of Dharbhanga, Mohammed Tariq Hasan of Purnia, Mohammed Kafil of Darbhanga, Asadullah Rehman of Darbhanga, and Mohammed Kafil of Darbhanga.

Though these indoctrinated youth provided logistics and shelter to Yasin, many weren't directly involved in planting the bombs. "The whole idea to take Yasin was to retrace the radicalisation in Bihar by IM and identify other suspects for filing of charge sheets," said a senior official.

Similarly, around September 6-7, Haddi was flown by an NIA team to Mangalore and Hyderabad for identifying the hideout where he and Pakistani national Waqas made explosive devices.

The agency recovered 75 Gasio (Chinese made) watches :?: and 12 timer circuit boards from the Mangalore flat which Waqas and Tehsim Akhtar fled on August 30 after hearing of Yasin's arrest.

From Abdullapur in Hyderabad, the sleuths recovered parts of the pressure cooker used to make the Dilsukhnagar bombs and a black bag used for transporting the device.

Haddi and Tehsim Akhtar were identified as the main perpetrators of the Hyderabad blast as Yasin refused to participate despite instructions from Pakistani ISI handler Riyaz Bhatkal.

Yasin told his interrogators he wasn't convinced about targeting Hyderabad as it was a revenge for the hanging of 2001 Parliament attack convict Afzal Guru.
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Haddi was trained to be sucide bomber by ISI
Had he not been nabbed with Indian Mujahideen’s leader Yasin Bhatkal, Asadullah Akhtar alias Haddi — trained by the ISI — could have carried out the terror outfit’s first suicide bombing in India, say counter-terror sources.

Akhtar alias Haddi was being prepared for a spectacular fidayeen, or suicide, strike in the coming months, counter-terror officials quoted Bhatkal as saying. Akhtar, too, confessed that he was trained by Pakistani spy agency the ISI in 2010.

One of India’s most-wanted terrorists Bhatkal and Akhtar were picked up by Indian and Nepalese sleuths from Pokhra on August 29 and formally arrested in Raxual, Bihar, along the Indo-Nepal border.

Bhatkal’s arrest is being seen as one of the biggest successes in India’s war against terror. He is believed to have masterminded at least six big terror strikes and is responsible for the death of more than 200 Indians.

“Akhtar had joined Yasin at his hideout in Nepal’s Pokhra only a few months back on the instructions of IM’s chief Riyaz Bhatkal,” said a source. A co-founder of IM, Riyaz Bhatkal, not related to Yasin, lives in an ISI safe house in defence housing authority’s colony in Karachi.

Akhtar, 26, was drafted by Atif Ameen in what is now known as the Azamgarh module of the IM. Ameen was killed in Delhi’s Batla House encounter in September 2008.

Akhtar, who also used Tabrez as an alias, was the one who planted the improvised explosive devices in the July 2011 Mumbai serial blasts, Pune serial blasts of August 2012 and February’s twin blasts in Dilsukhnagar, Hyderabad, Bhatkal told his interrogators.

Riyaz had also planned a suicide bombing at Bodh Gaya in Bihar, said sources. But, as reported by HT, Yasin Bhatkal has denied IM’s hand in the serial blasts that rocked the Buddhist holy town on July 7, injuring five people.

“He says his men didn’t execute the Bodh Gaya strike though it was one of their targets,” said a source.

{So there is another covert module unknown to Bhatkal. Maybe that covert module targetted Varanasi also?}
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Bhatkal and Akhtar are being kept at a high-security paramilitary force camp in the outskirts of Delhi. A joint team of the National Investigation Agency and intelligence officials is questioning them.
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Ramanaji,

The FCIN network got expanded into unexpected areas. I remember reading telugu news reports where some employees of money management agencies for ATMs getting compromised.
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Surasena wrote:BSP MP Qadir Rana: "Tau khuda kasam Muzaffar Nagar main aik Hindu baccha bhi Zinda Nahi bach Payega " ( I Swear by Allah, in Muzaffarnagar I Will Not allow Even One Hindu Child to Escape)
And I guess this MP is NOT among the people who have been charge sheeted for inciting communal violence? And we still remain a "secular" group :P ?
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Assam shocker: 12-year-old girl gang-raped by five minors @Zee News
Guwahati: In a shocking incident, a minor girl was gang-raped by five boys in Assam on Sunday. All the accused aged between 12 to 16 years are said to be victim's neighbours
So .. Juvenile eh ??
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This is shocking. More so for the fact that, the alleged rapists were her neighbors. All will be let off for being juveniles while the victim will be scared for life.
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Han Chinese soldiers harassing and holding hostage Indian citizens in Arunachal !!!!

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/video/chin ... 10146.html

This fcking UPA has to be shown the door pronto and FOREVER!
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Re:Juvenile rape epidemic
The effect of p* orn onlee in a culture not accustomed to it.

Of course the liberal crowd and media will have none of an argument which has p*orn as a reason. So no stringent laws will not be passed to curtail its open dissemination
However the same crowd will never leave a chance to express outrage when our our netas are caught watching it on iPad in legistlatures instead of passing laws to discourage its spread.

Should learn from cheen birathers for once and Pass LAWS.
Ahem education in school. At least mandate half decent requirements in schools to maintain avenues of entertainment and fun (clubs and sports). Sitting pretty on Right to education act is nothing when we have resources and necessity to make schooling a character building experience.
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Tension in Aligarh After Harassment Incident
ALIGARH | SEP 14, 2013

Tension gripped Atrauli area here after a girl was allegedly eveteased by three youths of a community.

The girl who was on her way to college was allegedly accosted and harassed by three motorcycle-borne youths yesterday, police said.

The girl raised an alarm and bystanders nabbed one of the youths, while the other two escaped, they said.

There was tension in the area following the incident as leaders of different saffron organisations reached there. Senior district officials soon rushed to the spot and another culprit was nabbed.

Police said a strict vigil is being maintained at Atrauli and neighbouring villages.

Uttar Pradesh has been on tenterhooks since outbreak of violence in Muzaffarnagar and surrounding districts over an eveteasing incident.

http://news.outlookindia.com/items.aspx?artid=810076
You don't just come to a hypothesis & then say bingo you have the cause so we should restrict p*rn. You need empirical evidence.

I will tell you a much more likely cause that is backed up by empirical evidence all over the world.

The growth in Muslim population leads to increase in rape because Islam teaches that is okay to rape kaffir women & Muslims have a long history of doing this to Hindu women.

In India Muslims are disproportionately involved in all sorts of crime including rape.
But let’s revert to the juicy part – crime statistics. About 8 months ago, The Asian Age had carried a reasonably sound survey of crimes categorised by community, based on the remand sheets of the lower courts in Bombay. The six-month survey was assembled by journalist Jyoti Punwani, well-known for her Hindu-bashing coverage of the Srikrishna Commission probe. The findings: about 80% of the criminals at the petty-crime level were Muslims, that figure decreasing when it came to white-collar crime...

http://www.rediff.com/news/sep/05varsha.htm
This was about 8 years ago with their population % increasing since then.

The above crime in Aligarh was also done by Muslims too & I am pretty sure the same in the Assam case which has a high Muslim population with many of them being illegal BD's.
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