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Rudradev wrote:
Absolutely. It is ironic that in my NCERT history textbook, the foreigner Jalaluddin was referred to by the honorific "Akbar" ("The Great")... while his Indian opponent was referred to by the contemptuous diminutive "Hemu" (as one might call the chai-walla boy: "Ramu","Shyamu" etc.)

In fact, if Hemchandra Vikramaditya had won at Panipat II... he might very well have become the Zhu Yuanzhang of India, tossing out the Islamic Central Asians and restoring Bharatiya rule for several more centuries.
Sad, isnt it how the 2nd battle ended? One freak arrow and victory turns into defeat. History's course changes.

Is Hindus' fate any different now? Its all Modi, Modi, Modi - God bless him. Where is the institutional backbone & 2nd/3rd rung of Modis. Without him, BJP is like Hemu's army of headless chickens.
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Prem Kumar wrote: Sad, isnt it how the 2nd battle ended? One freak arrow and victory turns into defeat. History's course changes.

Is Hindus' fate any different now? Its all Modi, Modi, Modi - God bless him. Where is the institutional backbone & 2nd/3rd rung of Modis. Without him, BJP is like Hemu's army of headless chickens.
This is a valid point which had come up before, in the context of security threats to Modi.

IMHO Rajnath has been handling his responsibilities well lately and can be named as 2nd in command.
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LKA wanted to be Hemu becuase of him in n same age group?
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forget the turn of events leading up to destroying nandas, my question is this.. is then nandas == kangrez now?
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ramana wrote:SaiK, Do you think Chanakya was wrong to seek Porus help for Chandragupta to overthrow the Nandas?
By that logic, would we not be able to justify all means? And is BSY ==== Parvataka ? So what happened to Parvataka and Malayaketu? History like statistics can be used to prove anything.
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Pranav wrote: IMHO Rajnath has been handling his responsibilities well lately and can be named as 2nd in command.
he fancies himself as the "King maker" not 2nd in command.
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RamaY wrote:
Atri wrote:
Exemplified by the body language of Shekhar Gupta. Look at how he talks to an elected CM of an Indian state. Especially in the end, when he starts talking pedagogically pointing finger at NM as Justive Gupta passes judgement.. More than interview, this body-language of Gupta was most hurting.

I bow to guruji NM to have shown us unwashed Ramus and Shyamus how to handle the adversary when time is against you. It is very tough to keep calm when a two-bit person like Shekhar Gupta is giving gyan to a person like NM who has risen from grass-root and done immense sadhna to reach where he was in 2004, forget today..
Yep. My blood boiled looking at the language and body language of dupatta. Then only I noticed the fact that this was from 2004.
I enjoyed the interview. Did not mind Shekhar's prodding, in fact he helped shine the 'diamond' :-) There were several interesting moments, one of them was when Modi expresses the idea that he (or anyone) would be sad even when a flower withers away. He had used a similar imagery recently talking about being sad if a puppy comes under the car. He has been consistent in expressing the sentiment. I thought he handled Shekhar's questions very well.
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SwamyG wrote:
ramana wrote:SaiK, Do you think Chanakya was wrong to seek Porus help for Chandragupta to overthrow the Nandas?
By that logic, would we not be able to justify all means? And is BSY ==== Parvataka ? So what happened to Parvataka and Malayaketu? History like statistics can be used to prove anything.
Thing is Rome wasn't built in an day. Modi will have to strike deals with several existing power structures to get to Delhi. He can then gradually cleanup starting with one group at a time. Otherwise he will be the proverbial outsider and nothing will ever happen.
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Is a dishonest liberal still a liberal?

By Shashi Shekhar on September 19, 2013


Before we get around to answering these questions, consider the below statements all of which have appeared in op-ed columns and news analysis reports across the English language media.

Exhibit A

“Not coincidentally, mass rioting broke out last week in Uttar Pradesh, India’s most populous and politically important state.”

Exhibit B

“And what followed the mahapanchayat, a similar meeting after Friday prayers, and various mislabelled viral videos and altered photos of newspaper headlines?”

Exhibit C

“His journey to the top has been paralleled by a similar rise in the frequency of communal incidents, especially in north India. As reported by Mint, between 2009 and March 2013, Uttar Pradesh, the state with the highest number of parliamentary seats (80), witnessed 482 incidents of communal violence, “the highest for any state in the country—resulting in 105 deaths”.

Now let us put each of these exhibits to a truth test.

Exhibit A claims that “mass riots” broke out in Uttar Pradesh last week. The reality of course is that rioting in the Muzaffarnagar region of Uttar Pradesh has been going on for many weeks now with multiple flare-ups between mid-August and the first week of September. It is a different matter that it was not until the death of a journalist that the English language media woke up to the riots.

Exhibit B claims that “a provocative meeting at friday prayers” followed the “mahapanchayat”. The reality of course is that the mahapanchayat took place on a Saturday — September 7. The “provocative meeting at Friday prayers” referred to in Exhibit B took place a full week before that, on August 30 — a Friday.

Exhibit C claims that Narendra Modi’s rise to the top is correlated with “communal incidents” in “north India” from “2009 to 2013”. The reality of course is that Narendra Modi got re-elected as Chief Minister of Gujarat, a western Indian State, only in December of 2012 and got to lead the BJP’s campaign only in June of 2013 and got declared as its Prime Ministerial candidate only last Friday.

So it appears that all three of our Exhibits have failed the truth test.

Now one could dismiss these away as stray comments in non-descript media entities written by non-serious individuals. But alas, that is hardly the case here.

Exhibit A is from a news analysis report titled Campaign for Prime Minister in India Gets off to a Bloody Start that appeared in the New York Times written by its India desk head, Gardiner Harris.

Exhibit B is from an op-ed column titled Divide and Campaign that appeared in the Business Standard, written by Mihir Sharma who is associated with the Business Standard in an unstated capacity going by his Twitter profile.

Exhibit C is from an op-ed column titled What BJP’s PM-aspirant stands for – Development or Riot Politics that appeared in The Mint written by a G Sampath whose columns routinely appear in that newspaper.

What is also common to all three of these exhibits that have failed the truth test is that they have all appeared in media outlets that routinely pride themselves as being ‘liberal’ and have been written by columnists who perhaps stand second to none in laying claim to the ‘liberal’ label themselves.

Which brings us back to the question we started with at the top of this column — Is a ‘dishonest liberal’ still a ‘liberal’ and whether being liberal with the truth is what makes a media outlet — “a liberal media outlet”?

Respect for the truth, it appears, does not rank very high in the list of principles that go into the making of a ‘liberal’ these days it seems. Rather than get into a sermon defending Narendra Modi’s record and into a harangue on how all of these so called ‘liberals’ have distorted and misreported on the Uttar Pradesh riots, let me conclude this column with a story and a moral at the end of the story.

There was once a newspaper that stood for the sentiment of the people against the status-quo represented by the establishment. Over the decades, that newspaper lost its way and its identity as its celebrity chief editor became an apologist for the establishment. So deep down the abyss that newspaper slid over the years that its editorials didn’t think twice about peddling naked lies. So deep in denial was the editorial desk at that newspaper that it repeated the same lies twice on the same topic despite being called out on it every single time. Then its celebrity chief editor went on to do something curious — he took the liberty of writing an open letter on a first name basis address to the one person who was the target of all of those lies over the years on an unrelated issue. Unfortunately for that newspaper and its celebrity editor, who had forgotten that public memory can be elephantine at times, its transgression was not only caught but was also widely exposed with hard facts.

Thus, we had earlier this week a nine year old video re-surface mysteriously on the website of a television news channel. Soon thereafter, we also witnessed mysteriously a full transcript of that nine years old video reappear in print in that very newspaper featuring its chief editor in conversation with the object of all of those editorials. The video and transcript stand testimony to the lies peddled by that newspaper in its editorial columns over the years.

So dear Gardiner Harris, Mihir Sharma and G Sampath and dear New York Times, Business Standard and The Mint: The moral of the story, let us just say, is that you can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people sometimes but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time.
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niran wrote:
Pranav wrote: IMHO Rajnath has been handling his responsibilities well lately and can be named as 2nd in command.
he fancies himself as the "King maker" not 2nd in command.
What I meant is that he can be designated as the person who will be in charge, in case the leader is not available for any reason.

In such circumstances he could catalyze the emergence of another leader who can capture the imagination of the party base and the general public.
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Man this Khujliwal has been some stroke of genius from Congress (if they created him), or at least a boon (even if they didnt). I see highly educated people, in finance and corporate sector nonetheless, posting his videos on FB (An appeal from Kejriwal to Delhi people), with comments like these- 'Requesting all Delhi people to make the right call this time' and what not! Why are they so easy to fool? Even if they dont care about the 'Muslims never do any wrong, its always the evil Yindoos and India' stance of this naxalite, at least they can go and read some of his 'ideas' about economic policies! These people know their finance and economics, they should be the first to say that this guy is a loon if he thinks these ideas will be for the better!
Damn its so frustrating to see these guys do that (though the number of people singing 'Kejriwal, Kejriwal' might have gone down slowly in recent months).
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well if kejriwal succeeds, then BJP should do well elsewhere no? i mean, if AAP can get this 'outraged middle class' of their a$$es and vote, then BJP can too.
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Kejriwal=PRP=Jagan=MNS

All a Congress creation, make no mistake.
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kittoo wrote:Man this Khujliwal has been some stroke of genius from Congress (if they created him), or at least a boon (even if they didnt). I see highly educated people, in finance and corporate sector nonetheless, posting his videos on FB (An appeal from Kejriwal to Delhi people), with comments like these- 'Requesting all Delhi people to make the right call this time' and what not! Why are they so easy to fool? Even if they dont care about the 'Muslims never do any wrong, its always the evil Yindoos and India' stance of this naxalite, at least they can go and read some of his 'ideas' about economic policies! These people know their finance and economics, they should be the first to say that this guy is a loon if he thinks these ideas will be for the better!
Damn its so frustrating to see these guys do that (though the number of people singing 'Kejriwal, Kejriwal' might have gone down slowly in recent months).
The highly educated ones in finance and corporate sector are the ones who will loose out the most with the demise of Con race. No wonder they support khujli. Current thriving industries owe a lot to con race. These leeches get preferential treatment to others. This is a global problem not restricted to India alone. Not upsetting the apple cart keeps cushy life styles unaffected kids studying or working in the west and regular holidays to Europe are more important for some than the hardship suffered by many.
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SaiK wrote:forget the turn of events leading up to destroying nandas, my question is this.. is then nandas == kangrez now?
Absolutely.

Nandas were corrupt to core.

Attacked Dharma to entrench secularist type philosophy and Dharma palaks always attacked Dhanananda.

Didn't do a squat when desh was under attack from Yunanis / Persians.
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kittoo wrote:Damn its so frustrating to see these guys do that (though the number of people singing 'Kejriwal, Kejriwal' might have gone down slowly in recent months).
Add to it this "man from IIT, educated and so a messiah" kind of campaigns as well. Luckily at least in my Facebook wall such posts come from a set of individuals I know a bit ;). Most of them have never caste a vote in their entire life time. All studious folks, who still whine that they did not get into an IIT, IIM etc. If these are the campaigners for Khujliwal, I guess the war is not at all lost.
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Sachin wrote:
kittoo wrote:Damn its so frustrating to see these guys do that (though the number of people singing 'Kejriwal, Kejriwal' might have gone down slowly in recent months).
Add to it this "man from IIT, educated and so a messiah" kind of campaigns as well. Luckily at least in my Facebook wall such posts come from a set of individuals I know a bit ;). Most of them have never caste a vote in their entire life time. All studious folks, who still whine that they did not get into an IIT, IIM etc. If these are the campaigners for Khujliwal, I guess the war is not at all lost.
Yes the only good thing about Khujliwal supporter is, that like their patron in chief, they are all hawa and unlikely to vote.

However I do echo kittoo's point -- and yes, people are clueless after 60 years of conditioning, they would still vote congress if they could, they see only a very very few issues, they are are clueless on larger political agenda and such like.

Its not Advani or D4 or xyz fault that BJP does not win -- India as a grouping has a strong strain of dhimmi behaviour, and they get very upset when some one breaks it and get angry at the non dhimmis.

Let me reiterate -- 36% + people EVEN in GUJARAT vote congress.
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BJP looks at a tax-free regime - Deccan Chronicle
New Delhi: In a so-called “bid to transform the current Indian socio-economic scenario” and “provide relief to the middle class while boosting the industrial sector”, the BJP is looking at a “revolutionary” five-point proposal to abolish all direct and indirect taxes (except customs duty to protect domestic markets), including sales tax, income-tax, excise duties, service tax, VAT and corporate tax, among others.

A think-tank, Arthakranti, had a series of meetings with the top BJP leadership, including L.K. Advani and Narendra Modi, to discuss the proposal. Even RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat has been briefed about the proposal. Instead of direct and indirect taxes, the think-tank has proposed to impose a tax of “say two per cent” on every banking transaction.

While the BJP leadership, which is preparing its “visi-on document”, is debating the proposal, the national spokesman of the think-tank, Deepak Karanjikar, claimed that “it will generate a revenue of `15 lakh crore” for the government. The proposal, incidentally, will take at least three years for implementation if accepted by the ruling party at the Centre. A draft parliamentary bill has also been prepared for the “new taxation system” by the think-tank.
Some in the BJP are, however, sceptical about the proposal.

New tax proposal aims to reduce graft

As per the thinktank Arthakranti’s proposal to BJP leaders, the transaction tax on credit accounts will be shared by the Centre, states, local authorities and the transacting bank. High denomination currency above Rs 50 is proposed to be abolished. “Some 58 per cent of the population pays Rs 20 a day so they will not be affected by this,” said Mr Karanjikar.

Under the proposal, currency transactions will not attract any transaction tax. But, it is proposed, cash transactions above a level, say Rs 2,000, will be deemed illegal.

“If you buy anything, like a camera, above this limit in cash and if there is some problem with the product, you will not be able to enforce the warranty on it as the transaction will be considered illegal,” said Karanjikar.


The thinktank said that its proposal will bring more transparency and tackle the issue of black money.
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All these surveys showing Khujliwal gaining strength in Dilli (and Dilli alone, mind you) makes me feel that In Dilli atleast, it is gonna be EVM magic. They are preparing the ground work, lest the Opposition cry foul after the results are declared. Professory Yogendra Yadav was removed from UGC on the day of survey, to show that they are all different and he is a sworn enemy of Kangress, to further convince any doubting Thomas anywhere in the nooks of Dillis Rajpaths..or the sarkari affices..IMO, BJP should raise the issue now itself, and ensure no such heraferi takes place. Also, It is important that the Dilli Billis don't collude with Kangress to secure defeat from jaws of victory
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this wont work, the linist has to be like 10k
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SwamyG wrote:
ramana wrote:SaiK, Do you think Chanakya was wrong to seek Porus help for Chandragupta to overthrow the Nandas?
By that logic, would we not be able to justify all means? And is BSY ==== Parvataka ? So what happened to Parvataka and Malayaketu? History like statistics can be used to prove anything.
SwamyG ji, Politics in India is not for faint hearted. You have to deal with devil on a daily basis.
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No merger with BJP but will back NDA under Modi: BSY
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they need to work out a amicable seat sharing plan to prevent vote splitting.
the JDS should hopefully be brought in as well though Yeddy just doesnt like HVK at state level. like BSP and SP they might be willing to support NDA at national level.
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kmkraoind wrote:BJP looks at a tax-free regime - Deccan Chronicle

A think-tank, Arthakranti, had a series of meetings with the top BJP leadership, including L.K. Advani and Narendra Modi, to discuss the proposal. Even RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat has been briefed about the proposal. Instead of direct and indirect taxes, the think-tank has proposed to impose a tax of “say two per cent” on every banking transaction.
It is a disastrous idea. Will depress the economy. For a trader with 2% profit margin, it amounts to 100% tax.
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Pranav: There are very few industries which work on 2% profit margins.
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VikramS wrote:Pranav: There are very few industries which work on 2% profit margins.
Traders. They have a critical role in any economy. Large sections of the economy will get depressed.
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^^ Now that Krishna Iyer has praised the "evil overlord", expect open season on him from our DDM:
How did Justice VR Krishna Iyer go from communist to Modi fan?
While two literary giants of India, UR Ananthamurthy and Amitav Ghosh, have spoken out against Narendra Modi as the BJP’s prime ministerial choice, Justice VR Krishna Iyer surprised the nation with his outright endorsement of the man. A minister in the first communist government in Kerala, the former Supreme Court judge who was CPM’s candidate for the presidentship of India in 1987, the judge and jurist who spoke for the rights of Muslims, and above all the veteran civil rights activist who was part of the citizen’s panel that investigated the Gujarat riots in 2002, Krishna Iyer’s words of praise for Modi are perhaps one of the strangest examples of the socio-political opportunism of Indian public figures.
For Krishna Iyer, Modi is Gandhian, socialist and secular. And a newfound reason, laughably, is his reported commitment to solar power! More than Modi, the veteran jurist’s words turn the spotlight on himself and his contradictions in his long and illustrious public life. In fact, the contradictions are too stark to ignore and are worthy of a re-examination lest his statement on Modi misleads us.
After he retired from the Supreme Court, he wanted to become the President of India in 1987 (contesting against R Venkataraman) with the support of the CPM. And guess whom he wrote to for support? LK Advani. And what did Advani tell him? “You are a handmaiden of the Soviet Union and therefore we are not in a position to support you.” When the controversial spiritual and political leader from Kerala, Adbul Nazer Mahdani was in Coimbatore jail for his alleged role in the serial blasts in the city, it was Krishna Iyer, who led the campaign for his release. After nine years in jail, the courts finally acquitted him. The tendency of suspecting Muslims is not apt for the nation’s culture, he had reportedly said. Mahdani was subsequently arrested by Karnataka Police and is now in jail without bail for his alleged role in the Bangalore blasts. Taking up his case again, Krishna Iyer wrote to the President of India to expedite his trial. “It is a disgrace to the Indian justice system to put a man in prison for nine years and then let him free, and now he is again in jail,” he wrote. Iyer was also a campaigner for Islamic banking in India. During his career as a judge he had delivered several important judgements interpreting the statutory and personal law of Muslims, that had been compiled into a book. Are Krishna Iyer and Modi on the same page on Muslims, personal law of Muslims and human rights? Where does Krishna Iyer now stand on the 2002 riots? Can one have two standards for human rights and public life? One for Mahdani and another (changed one) for the victims of 2002 Gujarat riots?
Does Modi claim to be a Gandhian or a socialist? Is his fight against corruption exemplary? Does he practice “Swaraj” as Krishna Iyer believes he does? So, finally is it about solar power and prohibition that make a good prime minister?
Curious case though!
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BJP's poll strategy in Andhra Pradesh — to align with TDP or split it - TOI
With the BJP's overtures to the Telugu Desam Party (TDP) not yielding the expected results, the sources said Modi was even looking at splitting the regional party and luring a handful of MPs and MLAs from it.

"The reports on the possibility of BJP aligning with the TDP are creating confusion while the regional party is yet to find clarity on its electoral plans. Many leaders from the TDP are willing to join the BJP, but it is for the party leadership to take a final call," Ramachandra Rao, a BJP spokesperson said.

The sources said Adilabad MP Ramesh Rathore, and Palakurthy MLA Errballi Dayakar Rao, who is also the chairman of the Telangana TDP Forum, were among the TDP leaders who are in talks with the BJP.

"The TDP leaders from Telangana are upset with their party president N Chandrababu Naidu for his flop-flop on the statehood issue. They want to leave the party as they fear their political future would be bleak with the party.
Master stroke by BJP and CBN. If CBN continues to support SA, the T-TDP will be come orphan, now if BJP splits up TDP, talks away Telengana faction with it, it will be a greater foothold in Telengana. NaMo = Chaankaya+Chandragupta.
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^^I certainly hope that the above split in TDP happens along regional lines....
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Sachin wrote:
kittoo wrote:Damn its so frustrating to see these guys do that (though the number of people singing 'Kejriwal, Kejriwal' might have gone down slowly in recent months).
Add to it this "man from IIT, educated and so a messiah" kind of campaigns as well. Luckily at least in my Facebook wall such posts come from a set of individuals I know a bit ;). Most of them have never caste a vote in their entire life time. All studious folks, who still whine that they did not get into an IIT, IIM etc. If these are the campaigners for Khujliwal, I guess the war is not at all lost.
Sachin,

They are the most dangerous. I have seen and argued the same when congress propped up loksatta in hyderabad. The congress succeeded.

Dont underestimate the number of "do gooders" who do stuff without thinking rationally and end up fanning evil. Having someone whose sole existence depends on Ford and co, right in the capital is very very dangerous.
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it is to attract this same tribe and confuse the middle class that revered founded Nilekani saab is being put up.
look for other such celebs to be lined up by INC. all they need is the B-team in rural areas, razakar ashraf in IM areas, and confuse the urban middle class over who is really responsible for the mess the country is in.
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Interesting Analysis. I ( and all my khandaan) am from same constituency and can relate to what Vicky Nanjappa is saying:

Will Nilekani take on Modi in Bengaluru?
Nandan Nilekani’s name may sound lucrative to the common observer, but many feel that it is an impossible task to beat Ananth Kumar of the Bharatiya Janata Party, who is expecting a sixth win from the prestigious Bengaluru South Lok Sabha constituency.

A majority of residents of this constituency say that their vote is not for Kumar. Voters say that if given a choice they would vote him out, but then that would mean they are not voting for the party’s prime ministerial candidate, Narendra Modi.

In fact, Kumar would have lost in the recently-held elections if it wasn’t for Modi.

Kumar was on a very weak footing during the 2009 Lok Sabha elections too. It was only thanks to former chief minister B S Yeddyurappa and the splitting of the IT sector votes independent candidate and Air Deccan founder Captain C Y Gopinath that helped him beat former state minister Krishna Byre Gowda of the Congress, who was an impressive candidate.

The south constituency has always been an advantageous constituency for the BJP. It has a negligible minority population, and most of the city’s well-educated and the IT population lives here.
Even during the recent assembly elections, the BJP put up its best show in the constituencies falling under Bengaluru South, despite there being such an anti-BJP wave across the state.

It will not be easy for Kumar to win from this constituency all by himself: development-wise, none of the voters in this constituency are happy.

But it is not a constituency wise battle, and going by Modi’s popularity amid the educated and business class in this area, it would be a cakewalk for Kumar.


Going around this part of town, one gets the impression that there is a lot of disappointment with Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh whose silence and the manner in which corruption has been handled have not gone down too well with anyone.

The Congress may field Nilekani from this constituency but a lot would depend on who they announce as their prime ministerial candidate. If they announce the name of Dr Singh, then it would be a major problem for them, and if they don’t, then the BJP will go to town on this issue.

A majority are not happy with the candidature of Rahul Gandhi, the Congress’ vice president either. They find him too ‘immature’ and feel that his way of functioning is too confusing. The other drawback for Rahul is the name of the dynasty attached to him.
Members of the Kumar camp who have always been on the side of senior BJP leader L K Advani however feel relieved that the name of Modi was announced.

“It makes our job much easier and the vote will be for Modi. The camp was worried since after winning five times in a row, the anti-incumbency factor was at a peak. This was an election many thought Kumar would lose, but now with Modi as the PM candidate, the hopes are back,” says a party worker.

Kumar’s followers will also not forget the last time Modi addressed a rally in this constituency this April: As Kumar began speaking, the crowd forced him to sit down and asked Modi to speak instead. But Modi intervened, and requested the crowd to let Kumar complete his speech.
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KJP will contest on 13 loksabha constituency and will provide outside support to NaMo. Please note, that it is outside support to NaMo
not to Bhajapa, this goes to show tha Reddy janab does have his ears on the ground, which in turn raises a very pertinent question
how and why was he let off from Bhajapa in the first place? such a good manager let off due to kangrezi plot is a blunder IMVVVVHO.
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The article claims that the best BJP chances are in Nizamabad, Mahabubnagar and Karimnagar. I would have thought that the BJP has a decent chance in Secunderabad, Malkajgiri, and Chevella. Or has something changed in these areas?
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niran wrote:KJP will contest on 13 loksabha constituency and will provide outside support to NaMo. Please note, that it is outside support to NaMo
not to Bhajapa, this goes to show tha Reddy janab does have his ears on the ground, which in turn raises a very pertinent question
how and why was he let off from Bhajapa in the first place? such a good manager let off due to kangrezi plot is a blunder IMVVVVHO.
Link on this, saar?
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Ummm??!! If Anant Kumar = one of D4 = Cong B team... then why would congress want NN, a potentially winning candidate, to fight against him? I'm KanPhuJed aanleee :-? .
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From twitter:

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New Low by JDU in Bihar,Nitish Government refused to allot Gandhi Maidan for #NaMo's #Hoonkar Rally in Patna
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kapilrdave wrote:Ummm??!! If Anant Kumar = one of D4 = Cong B team... then why would congress want NN, a potentially winning candidate, to fight against him? I'm KanPhuJed aanleee :-? .
Dark Lord wants to punish his servant. They asked only one task, back stab all efforts of BJP's in declaring NaMO as PM candidate and they have failed in it. Dark Lord all these years protected and nurtured D4 so that they can be useful in do-or-die crisis, and they have failed miserably in it. So Dark Lord is very angry on D4. If Sushma fails to create some ruckus, expect some sudden spurt of Bellary's Brothers legal issues.
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Damn these Congress prospective PMs does not know how national flag looks like. We are doomed if next generation Gandhi's or Vadra's becomes PM of India.

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