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Well no surprises here :lol:

Congress MP set to become first to lose seat after Supreme Court verdict
NEW DELHI: In the first conviction after the Supreme Court struck down a law that provided immunity to MPs and MLAs from immediate disqualification, a special CBI court on Thursday held Congress Rajya Sabha member Rasheed Masood guilty in a case of corruption and other offences and he is set to lose his seat.

Masood, minister of health in the VP Singh government between 1990 and 1991, was held guilty of fraudulently nominating undeserving candidates to MBBS seats allotted to Tripura in medical colleges across the country from the central pool.

Special CBI judge JPS Malik held Masood guilty of offences under the Prevention of Corruption Act and IPC Sections 120-B (criminal conspiracy), 420 (cheating) and 468 (forgery). He has, however, been acquitted of the charge under Section 471 IPC (using as genuine a forged document).

Masood's conviction is the first case after the July 10 Supreme Court judgment that struck down subsection 4 of Section 8 of Representation of the People Act, under which incumbent MPs and MLAs can avoid disqualification till pendency of the appeal against conviction in a higher court. The appeal has to be made within three months of the conviction.

Congress member in Rajya Sabha and a party working committee member, Masood is all set to be disqualified under the provisions of RP Act that disqualifies anybody who has been convicted under sections of various laws including the Prevention of Corruption Act, 1988.

The quantum of punishment on Masood will be pronounced on October 1. The provisions under which Masood has been convicted attract imprisonment up to seven years.

66-year-old Masood has been held guilty on same counts in two other similar cases.

The three cases in which the Congress leader has been convicted form part of the eleven similar cases registered by CBI in 1996.

Besides Masood, the court has convicted on similar counts former top bureaucrats Gurdial Singh and retired IAS official Amal Kumar Roy, the then secretary of Tripura chief minister Sudhir Ranjan Majumdar, in six and five similar cases respectively.

Nine students who had fraudulently got admission in the medical colleges have also been convicted for cheating. Two of them, including Masood's nephew, were juvenile at the time of the offence and their case had been transferred to the juvenile justice board on January 25, 2007.

The then chief minister of Tripura Sudhir Ranjan Majumdar and then health minister of the state, Kashi Ram Reang were also accused in the case. They passed away pending trial.

Masood had between 1989-91 illegally and fraudulently, in conspiracy with the then resident commissioner of Tripura, Gurdial Singh, nominated his nephew (who was a juvenile at the time of the offence), one other (also a juvenile) and Sachidanand Dwivedi to seats allocated from central pool for students of Tripura.

Sachidanand, one of the three students who secured admission in medical college through Masood, has also been held guilty for conspiracy, cheating, forgery for purpose of cheating, and also under the provisions of PC Act.

He was, however, acquitted of section 471 IPC (using as genuine a forged document).
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Sushupti wrote:If true, is it beginning of Vajpayee eta under Modi's BJP? It worries me when pious join Dharmic camp, like Moulana Kalam Aazad, to fight battle for Islam.

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What do you have against Moulana Kalam Azad? Yes, I know your views of Vajpayee.
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MKA was an Islamist, saar...
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Atri-saar- did he bat for Pakistan or separatists? That is what I want to know. I've not run across any such info but that might be my ignorance. That he was an Islamic scholar is well known.
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viv wrote:Atri-saar- did he bat for Pakistan or separatists? That is what I want to know. I've not run across any such info but that might be my ignorance. That he was an Islamic scholar is well known.
Those who batted for pan islamism and ummah, did not bat for partition.. this does not make them dharmik, viv ji.. even darul ulum deoband did not bat for partition (refer to muttahida qaumiyat aur islam by whatzhizname madni)..
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Viv,

You should read the undertones of his book,"India Wins Freedom". He doesnt bat for Pakistan or separatists, but the reasonings of why he does it are amply clear and many times explicit.

He doesnt bat for them, not because they are wrong or some hindu/muslim unity - but because he thinks that move doesnt profit the ummah.
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Atri wrote:MKA was an Islamist, saar...
Current Cancer in Indian body politic was injected by MKA. Like LKA said, MAJ was "secular" Maulana was Pacca Islamist from the both end.
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Virupaksha wrote:Viv,

You should read the undertones of his book,"India Wins Freedom". He doesnt bat for Pakistan or separatists, but the reasonings of why he does it are amply clear and many times explicit.

He doesnt bat for them, not because they are wrong or some hindu/muslim unity - but because he thinks that move doesnt profit the ummah.

Because the ummah could have all of India so why just a stump. That was the logic
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Viv,

read about Maududi of Pakistan. He was an out and out islamist and opposed Pakistan's formation. Infact many mullahs went to that side only when they were bought by the British. Maududi is in many ways the catalyst of what Pakistan is today and the ideology of pakistan is a regurgitation of Maududi, (who opposed its formation, go figure) . Not all islamists sided for Pakistan, for the simple reason, that there was an deliberate attempt to make sure that they still continue to influence the remainder part.
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That's correct. Partition was not a preferred option for some Islamists following the argument that Muslim power will be divided into two countries because of Partition. These Islamists believed that if India remained united, they would eventually be able to convert the entire subcontinent to Islam. Partition put paid to that Islamist dream of Ghajwa-e-Hind. The Islamist opposition to Partition was not for preserving the cultural unity and such noble thoughts.
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Virupaksha wrote:Viv,

You should read the undertones of his book,"India Wins Freedom". He doesnt bat for Pakistan or separatists, but the reasonings of why he does it are amply clear and many times explicit.

He doesnt bat for them, not because they are wrong or some hindu/muslim unity - but because he thinks that move doesnt profit the ummah.
I had read the book in college so it has been a long time. I do not recall any anti-India message in it. Will read again.
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Sticking my neck out for my old friend Kejriwal. I know that the forum views him with a distaste reserved for the likes of jaichand and suryaji pisal. I also know of the company he keeps (bhushan guy who seems like a closet paki). But it is my personal observation of what kind of following AAP is getting that makes me say the following:
- In my personal FB battles where I have been an unabashed NaMo fan, i have had run-ins with numerous ex-IITians in my network. At least 80% of the AAP fanboys in my network are implacable BJP/RSS haters. They would never vote for the 'communal' Modi, all the congress scams notwithstanding.
- These guys are actually not affected by a Rs 60/kg onion. They fancy themselves as the guardians of the 'secular' ethos (whatever the F it means) and do not consider cultural battlefield as worth fighting. In fact they would wholeheartedly support the adharmics because they have been conditioned, brain-washed all their lives by the 'secular' education system.
- Though they are pissed off about the corruption and the infrastructure issues, they would consider those aspects as secondary to a nebulously understood but fiercely defended commitment to a mythical secular ethos, which, in their opinion, is in imminent danger with the coming of Modi/RSS.
- In absence of AAP, they will hold their noses (trying to avoid the stench of congress corruption and misgovernance) and still vote for congress in order to 'keep the communal forces away'.
- Thus AAP, whatever may be its provenance (it may be that it was originally intended by congress as its B team), in my small personal sample size, it is actually taking away more votes from congress than from BJP.
TIFWIW.
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viv wrote:Atri-saar- did he bat for Pakistan or separatists? That is what I want to know. I've not run across any such info but that might be my ignorance. That he was an Islamic scholar is well known.
"Sirhindi ranks with Shah Waliullah as one of the topmost sufis and theologians of Islam. Referring to his role, Maulana Abul Kalam Azad has written in his Tazkirah thatbut for these letters Muslim nobles would not have stood by Islam and but for the efforts of Shaikh Ahmad, Akbar’s heterodoxy would have superseded Islam in India.”9 Later on, when K.A. Nizami published a collection of Shah Walilullah’s letters addressed to various Muslim notables including Ahmad Shah Abdali, he dedicated it to Maulana Azad. The Maulana wrote back, “I am extremely happy that you have earned the merit of publishing these letters. I pray from the core of my heart that Allah may bless you with the felicity of publishing many books of a similar kind.”10 That should give us a measure not only of ‘Muslim Revivalism’ but also of many Maulanas who masqueraded as ardent nationalists in order to fight the battle for Islam from within the Indian National Congress."

http://voiceofdharma.org/books/muslimsep/ch6.htm
I suggest u read the quotes attributed to Sirhindi to get the measure of what does Moulana admiring Sirhindi means?. Here is a sample.

" The glory is Islam consists in the humiliation and degradation of infidels and infidelity. He who honours the infidels, insults Islam"

http://voiceofdharma.org/books/muslimsep/ch6.htm
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Abhijit wrote: - In absence of AAP, they will hold their noses (trying to avoid the stench of congress corruption and misgovernance) and still vote for congress in order to 'keep the communal forces away'.
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Abhijit-ji -- +108.

Barring the above, in my experience, and as the data in survey shows. Some 54% of those voting AAP would vote BJP instead. While 46% may have still voted congress (or not voted at all) -- they will now vote AAP. This gives us 8%

Even 8% of 10% (the number who say will vote AAP) is a large number. I think AAP would make a real 3-4% dent in BJP votes. (upgd from 2-3% was my initial estimate)
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I'm a bit surprised Rahul Kanwal is taking a hard line against Modi's "authoritarianism", etc. these days. He was one of the few journos who helped give Modi a lot of airtime up until now.
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Abhijit,

You might be new to this AAP or Fodriwal crap. But for those in Andhra, its a yawn and seeing rewind-play of what congress did. By the way, both of the cases also have an explicit US angle.

Lets just say, I have come across such idiots and I know that they will hurt India. I have tried to convince those idiots in andhra and failed. I am not going to waste my breath on the same idiots again, who dont understand how a "first past the post" system works.
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Sanku wrote:I am Sonia Gandhi.
of all persons!?!?!? :twisted: :rotfl:
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If Moulana Abul Kalam Ajad a.k.a Seemant Gandhi is Islamist for you than your yard stick for who is not a Islamist is very big pretty much no religious man would measure up to it. Kalam was the most devoted disciple of Gandhi, he traveled 3rd class in trains, went to jail and tried living as closely as possible to Gandhi's philosophy all his life. Kalam and Gandhi both were very religious men and that should not be taken as sign of a Islamist or Hindutawadi. Working for welfare of your community whose problem you understand and can relate to them doesn't make you Islamist either.
Trying to explain to Muslims that staying in unified India would be beneficial to them does not make you Islamist but a Nationalist. Please take a moment before you through mud at great son's of India who carry the title of the "Bharat Ratan".

Let this be the last post on the matter and move on with Modi.....
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Seemant Gandhi was Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan of Peshawar, saar.
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Katare wrote:If Moulana Abul Kalam Ajad a.k.a Seemant Gandhi is Islamist for you than your yard stick for who is not a Islamist is very big pretty much no religious man would measure up to it. Kalam was the most devoted disciple of Gandhi, he traveled 3rd class in trains, went to jail and tried living as closely as possible to Gandhi's philosophy all his life. Kalam and Gandhi both were very religious men and that should not be taken as sign of a Islamist or Hindutawadi. Working for welfare of your community whose problem you understand and can relate to them doesn't make you Islamist either.
Trying to explain to Muslims that staying in unified India would be beneficial to them does not make you Islamist but a Nationalist. Please take a moment before you through mud at great son's of India who carry the title of the "Bharat Ratan".

Let this be the last post on the matter and move on with Modi.....
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Folks take extreme views in this thread and a few others. By that yardstick India will be nothing but a geography with separate nations and be an easy prey to outsiders (it has been in the past). Just because there is a separatist islamic set does not mean everyone is the same way - proper law and order is required. I again point to Modi's handling of post riot Gujarat. No special favours to anyone but fairness to all. Hopefully that can come at national level. Namecalling every leader of yesteryears based on some simplistic analysis is not going to resolve anything. I'll read 'India wins freedom' again - the most important impression I carry from it is Nehru's bungling that cost India dear.

PS. Seemant Gandhi is not Kalam but Ghaffar khan.
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As people said, read their writings.

All the independence activists did not jump in with the same agendas. Each of them had their own interests, personality, baggage and opponents. A sanitised school students history is different from what really happened or what they thought or did. This applies across the spectrum.

The whole of khilafat movement was an attempt by congress to bring islamists into its midst and you are suprised that some of them rose to the top?
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may it happen...these guys are in their own world.
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to which country? now everyone is trying KH stunts will not work.. firstly, they have to create a market base.
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SaiK wrote:to which country? now everyone is trying KH stunts will not work.. firstly, they have to create a market base.
Saudi Arabia.
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100 giant screens to be put up across capital for Narendra Modi’s Delhi Badlo Rally

http://daily.bhaskar.com/article/NAT-TO ... 8-NOR.html
Narendra Modi is scheduled to address the election rally in national capital on September 29.

Party members are leaving no stone unturned to make the rally, titled 'Delhi Badlo Vishal Rally' a grand success. Hundred giant screens will be set up across the city for people who will not be able to visit the venue of his rally.

"The main focus is business places so that everybody can listen live to their favourite leader who will be the next prime minister," said Vijender Gupta, former Delhi BJP chief.

The venue of the rally, Japanese Park in Rohini will host BJP PM candidate on September 29. Dozens of small screens have been put up across the park to facilitate the audience get a closer glimpse of Modi. The party will try to gain maximum mileage from the rally. The rally will also kick start BJP's Delhi state assembly poll campaign.

Security will be a major issue at the rally. Already, 100 security posts have been set up at the venue, in addition CCTV cameras will be installed to monitor all sorts of movement in the rally.
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Annoouncing NaMo as candidate seems to be a masterstroke. It is whipping up frantic support all over the country and the Congressis must be browning their sickular pathloons.

I wonder how involved he will be in the choice of candidates. Will he give seats to crooks and criminals? Or will he steer clear of these?
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Who ever the candidates may be they have to be supported by grass roots ABVP RSS students who are patriotic leaning
That was the way in 1977,
It's time it's done like that in 2014 after 37 years

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Virupaksha wrote:
The whole of khilafat movement was an attempt by congress to bring islamists into its midst and you are suprised that some of them rose to the top?
No, with a few it was successful. Otherwise Khilafat's only positive point was making it clear that some lines have been drawn and will not work. We can only thank Ataturk for bringing that to an end.
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KJoishy wrote:
I wonder how involved he will be in the choice of candidates. Will he give seats to crooks and criminals? Or will he steer clear of these?
That's like trying to drive on Mumbai-Pune Western Express Highway while steering clear of potholes. Apart from the potholes there is no road onlee.
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Some of the posters have compared NaMo to Sardar Patel and others to LBS. I understand the Sardar analogy but LBS is litttle too much.

I know it is OT and I will move this question to some other thread but Why is Lal Bahadur Shatri considered as an able administrator and better PM. He was PM for less than 2 years and could not handle Anti-Hindi agitation in TN nor was keen on facing TSP in 1965 (at least based upon whatever crap I have read). There is no major or minor achievement in his spreadsheet, then why is he considered as a good PM.
He was just a stop gap between Nehru and Indira.
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Vikas: move it to another thread.
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geeth wrote:All these surveys showing Khujliwal gaining strength in Dilli (and Dilli alone, mind you) makes me feel that In Dilli atleast, it is gonna be EVM magic. They are preparing the ground work, lest the Opposition cry foul after the results are declared. Professory Yogendra Yadav was removed from UGC on the day of survey, to show that they are all different and he is a sworn enemy of Kangress, to further convince any doubting Thomas anywhere in the nooks of Dillis Rajpaths..or the sarkari affices..IMO, BJP should raise the issue now itself, and ensure no such heraferi takes place. Also, It is important that the Dilli Billis don't collude with Kangress to secure defeat from jaws of victory
A long time ago (23 Aug 2011, during the massive Jan Lokpal Bill agitations) I had posted the following on the origins of the Kejriwal circus.

http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 3#p1152333

Read it again, and see if everything we are observing now makes sense.
What I think happened is something like this.

A little background. As of 2004, we're seeing the stabilization of a political phenomenon that has only rarely (if ever) existed before in Indian parliamentary democracy... and that too, for very brief and unstable stints in the past.

We're seeing the source of all political authority, permanently and stably, sitting outside the elected office of PM. Sonia Gandhi... all power, no accountability.

And, we're seeing a completely bankrupt, depleted political chief executive sitting in the elected office of PM: MMS, a functionary of Sonia Gandhi. No power, all accountability.

As I said, India has seen this before. For example, when the Chandra Shekhar govt. circa 1990 depended on Congress (I) external support to survive, and Congress dictated policy terms. But that was clearly unstable and impermanent. It could not last, and it did not last.

This (Sonia-MMS dichotomy) is the first time in Indian history that such an equation has been deliberately and artificially stabilized... accepted as the status quo... and engineered to last for as long as Sonia Gandhi requires.

Such a situation eventually will lead to a loss of faith in the entire system of parliamentary democracy. The anger may be actuated and aggravated by various issues... corruption, black money, scams, price rise, whatever. But underlying everything is an instinctive sense that the system is just not working anymore. That is the mood of the middle class in India today. That is why, when Aruna Roy or INC mouthpieces insist that Anna is "blackmailing the parliamentary system", Indian people don't give a $hit... they're coming out in greater numbers and supporting Anna even MORE.

Ok. So who planned this?

Here's my guess. We have established that, in this artificially stabilized and untenable equation, Sonia is the external source of governmental authority... all power, no accountability. No need to face elections, no need to explain anything to the people, she can just do what she bloody well wants.

As with all absolute monarchs, she has gathered a *court* around her. An entirely unelected, non-parliamentary bunch of private citizens called The National Advisory Council. Harsh Manders, John Dayals, Ahmed Patels, Aruna Roys. Unelectable people who represent nobody. Yet, by virtue of being in this *court*, all of a sudden they share in Sonia's fount of political power. All of a sudden these people, members of "civil society", are in a position of immense political power without accountability. Just like that! Magic!

And boy, did these "court" people flex their muscles. Ramachandra Guha, Aruna Roy and others pressured the Supreme Court into expunging a statement that predatory conversion by Christian Missionaries causes social friction and hostility. Swami Agnivesh and Nandini Sundar, again, pressured the Supreme Court into declaring the anti-Maoist Salwa Judum as illegal. Most recently the whole pack of jackals have been concocting the "Communal Violence Bill", which is nothing more than a Blasphemy Law directed exclusively against Hindus.

Now, with all *courts*, what happens? There are insiders and there are outsiders. None of them rise on any stance of merit. They only rise by their ability to please Sonia Gandhi (and by agreeing with her that Hindoooo assertiveness is public enemy number one.) Yet, not everyone can be an insider. Some end up inside, some end up outside. There is a lot of jockeying for position. But eventually there are winners and there are losers.

It's that simple. Aruna Roy, Harsh Mandar, John Dayal, and co. ended up as "insiders". Kejriwal, Swami Agnivesh, Prashant Bhushan and gang ended up as "outsiders."

The "outsiders" then said, "Ok, we will show the insiders." After all, the rise of Sonia Gandhi's *court* had proved a point... that in the New India, even an unelectable and non-representative member of "civil society" can wield immense political power. So why should that power be restricted to "insiders" onlee? The "outsiders" had tasted a little of this power (e.g. Swami Agnivesh successfully pressurizing the SC over Salwa Judum) and they wanted more.

So the "outsiders" took advantage of the popular mood, and roped in the old Gandhian activist, Anna Hazare, to be their figurehead. They said, "let us put on a show to embarrass the insiders over the corruption/scam issues... then, to avoid further embarrassment, Sonia might allow us to become insiders also!" At that point everything would have been smoothed over, insider-outsider power sharing compromise would have been reached, old Anna would have been put out to pasture, and everyone would be back to business as usual.

Of course, if the JLPB was accepted by the government, then the Jan Lok Pal office would be yet another path for unelectable, non-representative "civil society" people to gain immense power over the nation. The concept of "power without accountability" had already been proved to be viable, by Sonia Gandhi and the NAC... so why could other structures not be invented to accommodate it?

So the "outsiders" had nothing to lose by beginning the agitation.

Note, even these "outsiders" were not without funds or backing. They all have NGO connections and funding. The promise of being able to wield influence in Sonia Gandhi's *court* brought them even more funds and backing. So they did get behind Anna, and began the Jantar Mantar agitation earlier this year.

Everything since then: LPB vs. JLPB, etc. etc. has been an outward symptom of the "civil society outsiders" vs. "civil society insiders" battle, with the GOI on the same side as the "insiders." But there is one big difference. Back during the Jantar Mantar agitation, the "outsiders" vs. "insiders" were playing a water-polo match in a calm and quiet pond. Today that pond has turned into a raging ocean... THIS was not something that was foreseen, let alone planned, by anyone.
That was Point A. Kejriwal/Bhushan were "Outsiders" who had been excluded from Sonia Gandhi's Durbar of "Insiders" (the NAC) and wanted to show their blackmailing muscle by organizing the Jan Lokpal Bill demonstrations.

Does anybody even remember the Jan Lokpal Bill demonstration today? What happened to it? The whole demand just vanished into thin air, no? I'm sure it still appears somewhere on the back pages of the Scam Admi Party manifesto (in really small print) but from the front and center of political theatre two years ago, it's been relegated to some cold, distant excuse for a back-burner.

So now we're at Point B. Kejriwal/Bhushan, the "Outsiders", have abandoned Anna Hazare after using his credibility as a reformer to gain publicity for themselves. They have also formed a regular political party: the Scam Admi Party. Yet, even though the JLPB agitation has long since recessed to the most distant corners of public memory... opinion polls show the Scam Admi Party winning 7 seats in Delhi!

As Geeth says, this smells very much like a setup... so that we won't be too surprised or suspicious when EVM magic, courtesy the Congress, delivers the Scam Admi Party a large number of seats in the coming Delhi election.

Can one infer the negotiations which brought the Congress and Kejriwal from Point A to Point B? Seems like a deal was struck whereby Kejriwal and Bhushan, the former "Outsiders", have now been guaranteed a red-carpet welcome (though by the electoral route) to the "Inside".
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A very rare pic of Modi ji with Digvijay ji
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Virupaksha wrote:Abhijit,

You might be new to this AAP or Fodriwal crap. But for those in Andhra, its a yawn and seeing rewind-play of what congress did. By the way, both of the cases also have an explicit US angle.

Lets just say, I have come across such idiots and I know that they will hurt India. I have tried to convince those idiots in andhra and failed. I am not going to waste my breath on the same idiots again, who dont understand how a "first past the post" system works.
+108.

Loksatta president Jayaprakash Narayan achieved more than Kejriwal before entering politics, yet to fail to achieve anything political other than helping YSR coming to power.
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Few days old news. Venkayya Naidu responded by saying, it a given that NM will be the PM; and offered to help the author settle in the country of his choice.
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