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Virupaksha wrote:Abhijit,

You might be new to this AAP or Fodriwal crap. But for those in Andhra, its a yawn and seeing rewind-play of what congress did. By the way, both of the cases also have an explicit US angle.

Lets just say, I have come across such idiots and I know that they will hurt India. I have tried to convince those idiots in andhra and failed. I am not going to waste my breath on the same idiots again, who dont understand how a "first past the post" system works.
Abhijit bhau seems to be a maanoos from western MH. So I think he too might have seen it first hand on at least one occasion.. :P

namo namah onlee until 2020 atleast... :P :D
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Fodriwal ? :eek: :mrgreen:
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negi wrote:Fodriwal ? :eek: :mrgreen:
seed capital for the scam aadmi party came, allegedly at least in part, from the ford foundation.
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Khujliwal
When I read this, I :rotfl: :rotfl: so loudly that aas paas people were wondering wtf was wrong with me.
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Virupaksha wrote:Abhijit,

You might be new to this AAP or Fodriwal crap. But for those in Andhra, its a yawn and seeing rewind-play of what congress did. By the way, both of the cases also have an explicit US angle.

Lets just say, I have come across such idiots and I know that they will hurt India. I have tried to convince those idiots in andhra and failed. I am not going to waste my breath on the same idiots again, who dont understand how a "first past the post" system works.
He is not new to AAP or Kejriwal. :) I know him on this forum for a long time in a lot of AK related posts.

I called AK as the Manchurian candidate in a public speech and got into argumentation after the speech. I know the crazy-educated-useless-junky AAP folks.
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Rudradev ji, Thank you so much again. That post helped me immensely in my fight against the kujliwaals around the places where I meet them. The junk is all over.
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RamaY wrote:
Few days old news. Venkayya Naidu responded by saying, it a given that NM will be the PM; and offered to help the author settle in the country of his choice.
On FB, friends had posted a snap of a letter sent by Namo brigade in Mangalore to Shri. URA with Rs5 enclosed for him to start making preparations with the money sent :mrgreen:
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Sushupti wrote:If true, is it beginning of Vajpayee eta under Modi's BJP? It worries me when pious join Dharmic camp, like Moulana Kalam Aazad, to fight battle for Islam.

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Never trust Salim Khan. It was Salim Khan and Mahesh Bhatt who had meeting with this samajwadi party muslim journalist who interviewed Modi and got ousted from sp. Some deep moves are afoot. Ummah has told these chhupa rustom ghazis to move in enemy camp which is getting stronger.
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Arun Menon wrote:
Atri wrote:Done that everywhere.. Lets see.. masud Gazni is a famous "dargah" of that region (ala Ajmer) and bahraich city has 40-50% pissful population. lets see. :)

For the unwashed abduls here - Battle of Bahraich was the landmark event in Indian history.. Indian armies under Raja Sukhdev of Shravasti descended upon armies of Salar Masood Gaznavi on 13th of june 1033 AD. By 14th, the battle was over, and every single soldier of 120,00 strong Masud's army (masud included) were slain.

India enjoyed a period of peace and freedom for next 160 years (until rise of Shahabuddhin Ghori) due to the blow dealt to invaders in this single battle.

Later Firoz Tughlaq destroyed few sun temples and converted those temples into shrine of "Ghazi Masud Salar Gaznavi" which many faithfools and dhimmi Hindus too, worship like Ajmer's shrine. What a shame. This Masud Gaznavi was participant of Mehmood Gaznavi's armies which sacked Somnath. Masud was nephew of Mehmood and was wishing establish a sultanate in North India.

This is a very stimulating story which should be known to every Hindu and patriotic Indian.
It is as if these great victories of Hinduism and Hindus have been wiped out from the history books. We must make an effort to revive these memories and the pride they rightfully give us. There is a reason why India is not a Islamic cesspool and this is why, not some random mercy some money hungry Sultan bestowed on us.
This whole story of sukhdev killing 100k muslims is made up stuff. Iirc sukhdev a small time raja had conflict with masud salar so he killed him and his supporters who were preaching islam. Masud was yong islamic zelo, he never commended any invading army his calling was spreading islam.
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Modi should not be tempted by this Salman Salem Akbar
A known enemy is better than unknown friend

NaMo should not be in this situation at all


Capt. Keith Mallory: I have no time for this!
Corporal Miller: Now just a minute! If we're going to get this job done she has got to be killed! And we all know how keen you are about getting the job done! Now I can't speak for the others but I've never killed a woman, traitor or not, and I'm finicky! So why don't you do it? Let us off for once! Go on, be a pal, be a father to your men! Climb down off that cross of yours, close your eyes, think of England, and pull the trigger! What do you say, Sir?

Recall Guns of Navarone Gregory Peck

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Katare wrote:
Arun Menon wrote:Done that everywhere.. Lets see.. masud Gazni is a famous "dargah" of that region (ala Ajmer) and bahraich city has 40-50% pissful population. lets see. :)

For the unwashed abduls here - Battle of Bahraich was the landmark event in Indian history.. Indian armies under Raja Sukhdev of Shravasti descended upon armies of Salar Masood Gaznavi on 13th of june 1033 AD. By 14th, the battle was over, and every single soldier of 120,00 strong Masud's army (masud included) were slain.

India enjoyed a period of peace and freedom for next 160 years (until rise of Shahabuddhin Ghori) due to the blow dealt to invaders in this single battle.

Later Firoz Tughlaq destroyed few sun temples and converted those temples into shrine of "Ghazi Masud Salar Gaznavi" which many faithfools and dhimmi Hindus too, worship like Ajmer's shrine. What a shame. This Masud Gaznavi was participant of Mehmood Gaznavi's armies which sacked Somnath. Masud was nephew of Mehmood and was wishing establish a sultanate in North India.

This is a very stimulating story which should be known to every Hindu and patriotic Indian.

It is as if these great victories of Hinduism and Hindus have been wiped out from the history books. We must make an effort to revive these memories and the pride they rightfully give us. There is a reason why India is not a Islamic cesspool and this is why, not some random mercy some money hungry Sultan bestowed on us.
This whole story of sukhdev killing 100k muslims is made up stuff. Iirc sukhdev a small time raja had conflict with masud salar so he killed him and his supporters who were preaching islam. Masud was yong islamic zelo, he never commended any invading army his calling was spreading islam.
Suhaldev/Sukhdev slayed Masud in the battle near Bahraich. North Indian Rajas employed the tactic of letting him go deep upto Bengal. After that they blocked his way back. He had to fight every KM back towards west. Thus final battle (with much lesser army left with him) took place near Bahraich, where he was killed and than each and every soldier of his army was sent to meet their maker. You can imagine the shock for pious back home where after every raid they were used to easy booty ( gold, jewelry, slaves (specially the kafir women)).

After this Ghazanvids got totally cured of their fever of Islam and they chose to follow the path of Munafiqs by releasing coins with Hindu gods on them and many kafir pleasing activities to save their kingdom.
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viv wrote: What do you have against Moulana Kalam Azad? Yes, I know your views of Vajpayee.
There was an interview posted of moulana azad opposing the formation of pakistan. Very noble!

But in the interview the reason he gave was that it would create an ill will against islam amongst people and we muslims would find it difficult to propogate our religion, convert people because of this. So his worry was regarding spread of islam not 'Ekta and Akhandataa of Bhaaratvarsh'.
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what happened to his shirt?
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Swamy gives back to Sardesai and gives lesson in how to counter Nehruvian theatrics.
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has anyone seen digvijay singh in the media last two weeks?
as if by hidden master switch the media is no longer interested in him for quotes on any topic.
he is rendered invisible and has been retired like bayram khan.
'signals' must have been sent from akbar road to all TV channel owners that he is no longer is favour at the durbar.

must be a cruel blow for one so strong and zealous in faith to be thrown away like a used paper plate.
he also lost his wife to illness last year.
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Attack on Ex-Chief VK Singh begins for sharing stage with Modi.Supari Journalism by Shekhar Gupta

http://m.indianexpress.com/news/unit-se ... y/1171601/
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I can't read Tamil but as per twiiter this is very venomous.

http://tamil.thehindu.com/opinion/blogs ... 146566.ece
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Zakia Jafri's lies exposed in taped conversation



For details
http://dharmanext.blogspot.in/2013/09/z ... posed.html
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The issue at Delhi is that of a strong mass leader. BJP does not seem to have one and still they are managing to win 30 seats is a good show of strength for the NAMO factor. AAP will eventually have to support BJP to prevent a re-poll. So INC is surely out of Delhi. In all other states BJP has a strong mass leader and hence gaining. NAMO is a mass leader and hence gaining. So the verdict is clear. Masses want a mass leader who can take decisions to improve their life. U should see rating of BJP D4 and their apporval ratings are in single digit. The days of party based election is over. In bengal CPM lost insppite of the party machinery is because they ran out of mass leader. If in 20 years from now INC can field a mass leader then they can come to power. I think we are moving into presidential stye of election from now. NEHRU saw that coming and opted for a parliamentry system which is kind of a family based model because as long as u belong to a family ( party ) u are can become a PM regardless of your mass apeal ( MMS ). This model is now failing!
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Singha wrote:has anyone seen digvijay singh in the media last two weeks?
as if by hidden master switch the media is no longer interested in him for quotes on any topic.
he is rendered invisible and has been retired like bayram khan.
'signals' must have been sent from akbar road to all TV channel owners that he is no longer is favour at the durbar.

must be a cruel blow for one so strong and zealous in faith to be thrown away like a used paper plate.
he also lost his wife to illness last year.
He is busy partitioning AP
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viv wrote:
Virupaksha wrote:
The whole of khilafat movement was an attempt by congress to bring islamists into its midst and you are suprised that some of them rose to the top?
No, with a few it was successful. Otherwise Khilafat's only positive point was making it clear that some lines have been drawn and will not work. We can only thank Ataturk for bringing that to an end.

eh, what? Ataturk? thank him for what? we are talking about India still, right?

Khilafat's "point" in the Indian context was that the assorted Islamists (theologians, politicians, opportunists, feudals, and lay-muslims) all came together under one banner of Ummah, facilitated by Gandhi, Nehru, and their INC.

it was a good trial run in 20th-century organization politics for the Islamics. it was the run-up to, and groundwork for, the Partition.
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RamaY wrote:
Singha wrote:has anyone seen digvijay singh in the media last two weeks?
as if by hidden master switch the media is no longer interested in him for quotes on any topic.
he is rendered invisible and has been retired like bayram khan.
'signals' must have been sent from akbar road to all TV channel owners that he is no longer is favour at the durbar.

must be a cruel blow for one so strong and zealous in faith to be thrown away like a used paper plate.
he also lost his wife to illness last year.
He is busy partitioning AP
No, he is not.

mess in partitioning AP is what has apparently caused his well deserved downfall.
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Sushupti wrote:I can't read Tamil but as per twiiter this is very venomous.

http://tamil.thehindu.com/opinion/blogs ... 146566.ece
Main points in that article are :
1. Harmony in society is better than growth in a communally charged atmosphere were minorities, environmentalists, maoists are suppressed (Yes, it doesn't make any sense. Without growth, society will lead to anarchy - Why doesn't anyone see that?)
2. that Modi is unfit to be the PM since he was unable to quell/prevent Godhra or the subsequent riots. So even if we assume he had no part in any of this, by fact of not being able to safeguard lives in either case, he is unfit to the the PM.
3. His aide Amit Shah after being appointed to oversee bjp activities in UP has led to many riots (utter falsehood but hey what's new!).

Therefore Modi shouldn't be PM. And some jalras in the comments section. Par for course really.
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Modi launches Gujarat Police’s ambitious IT project eGujCop

The Gujarat Chief Minister today inaugurated eGujCop project which integrates information technology systems in home departments across the state.

The eGujCop project covers more than 1100 locations including 450 police stations, 59 circle police inspector offices, 60 sub divisional offices, 35 Commissioner of police, Superintendent of police offices in its network. The state government describes it as biggest such initiative in the world in terms of scale.

eGujCop according to the Gujarat government will provide quicker documentation and reporting systems. It will save time by optimizing record keeping and quick retrieval of information. They system will verify identity through ‘automatic fingerprint identification system.’

Thanks to eGujCop, citizens will be able to request for police service online through the ‘Citizens portal service’. Citizens will be able to access details of missing persons and also the details of stolen or recovered vehicles. They will be able to view the progress of their cases online, download important forms and certificates, apply for various permissions like verification, arms license, hotel license etc and view progress of their application online.

Chief Minister’s speech

Chief Minister Shri Narendra Modi launched eGujCom through login to the network using his own user name and password at 3.20 pm. Modi said more than 1,000 places including jails and forensic science laboratories across Gujarat are part of this network.

Modi described E-governance as easy governance and effective governance. He said the eGujCop initiative will simplify the work of police force which is involved in so much writing/paper job.

Criminals involved in multiple crimes who use different names at different places will be identified through biometric and case history data available on eGujCop network. Thus the system will be useful in crime detection.

Modi said when it comes to service, eGujCop will prove more useful than AK-47 for police jawans.

He pointed out that the biggest digital data bank available with Forensic Science Laboratory in Gujarat will be accessible now to common police men through eGujCop.

Modi asked police men to take interest in technology. He said, “no one taught us how to use mobile phone, whatsapp or SMS. We learn on our own. Using eGujCop is equally easy. The government has spent around Rs. 150 crore for eGujCop, you should take maximum benefit of it. Technology tool should create fear among criminals.”

He said the Gujarat government first set up proper infrastructure through Jyotigram scheme, and once infrastructure was in place, the govt focused on skilled human resource. The govt started recruiting techno savvy youths to police force. At this time, the police force has more techno savvy employees than the administrative side of the govt.

Speaking on this occassion, Home Secretary Shri SK Nanda said, “the project has been made functional within a year. As per central govt model, the project was only about connecting police stations, but we have gone one step ahead and connected IB, CID, Passport, FSL etc too.”

Giving details about eGujCop, Crime Record Bureau chief IPS Manoj Agrawal said, “The project will make documents available to courts too. Crime pattern, crime maping details will be available through search. Suppose if some criminal escape, broadcast of his details to all police stations will be possible through eGujCop.”

He said total 1.3 crore records from last ten years containing more than 140 crore words are digitized. As many as 24,000 Gujarat cops are trained through 20 live sessions. Each session was attended by at least 11,000 cops. The pilot project was launched in 10 police stations. The data obtained through pilot project contains 13,000 complaints and 73000 investigation entries.”

Modi speaks on progressive unfolding
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Dhananjay wrote: Never trust Salim Khan. It was Salim Khan and Mahesh Bhatt who had meeting with this samajwadi party muslim journalist who interviewed Modi and got ousted from sp. Some deep moves are afoot. Ummah has told these chhupa rustom ghazis to move in enemy camp which is getting stronger.
he is in to protect his son Salmon khan from all the cases and harassment he seems to be getting remember salmon khan formed a NGO
to fight for the return of Indians prisoned in Paki jails and Salmon khan's dushmani with hakala khan who is dawood bhai chela and has
kangreaz protection, get the gist folks? or should i explain it more.
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Sushupti wrote:I can't read Tamil but as per twiiter this is very venomous.

http://tamil.thehindu.com/opinion/blogs ... 146566.ece
google translate:
Modi is a party to the power of God citta ; marutarappukko Modi is a devil .

Those who are not widely ariyappattavaitan piratamarakave Modi 's allegations . Godhra train burning his handling of deaths , Gujarat massacre , encounter killings , as his pasica approach . Modi certainly deserves to be Prime Minister in charge is not true . But , if these allegations are really important , ' the path ' India will fast forward a meeting that he considers important to his ability .

Uncontrolled growth of social integration is important. மேம்பாட்டுக்குத்தான் development of man . Human beings are not guaranteed to எலும்புக்கூடுகளுக்குத்தான் community development .

One worker 's RSS growth path of indigenous policy operates on the terrorist leader 's dream பொறுப்பேற்றிருக்கிறார் karpparettukal . RSS is posing a lot out of him as a candidate for prime minister . This concentration of the conflict right .

Must involve the suppression of religious minorities , as well as , the development of the tribes across the road , the Maoists , like சுற்றுச்சூழலியலாளர்கள் norukkappattu beat India ' power ' to ' it is ninaippavarkalum that Modi should be Prime Minister . But , difficult to put forward ideas such as public green space .

Atittatarkum in the market to witness in court . The social reality is that in many cases the court . For a speech that Modi is innocent .

This law and order and the ability No , the Godhra train burning incident he handle the unknown , the Indian legal system is advanced by a chief of the main katamaikalana common people's lives and property protection , minority protection and he could not fulfill , its police officers, he could not control , their innocent youth killing avarukkut I do not know , above all, not many years after the interests of truth and justice as a means vicarittarintu . So he is not qualified to power ninaittalkuta Modi is innocent .

Modi, Amit Shah , also known as Sword of the war party responsible for the BJP in Uttar Pradesh, there இந்துத்துவவாதிகள் after the intensification of the trend . Religious Riots spread a massacre . We spread the fire of religious politicians plaintiff Samaja Party governments were complicit in the administration that it should be clearly documented by the media . Modi's Gujarat riots colvatupola an exception in some way , which in itself shows that the process was going to Delhi .

Modi says the event will be a great piralvakave !

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Diggi is still doing dramas in AP. Next week some union cabinet ministers and mp s from AP may resign. But drama in AP with YSR criminal gang continues. I wish bjp is more proactive there.
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subhamoy.das wrote:The issue at Delhi is that of a strong mass leader. BJP does not seem to have one and still they are managing to win 30 seats is a good show of strength for the NAMO factor.
No, the strength of BJP is Delhi is grass root workers deeply committed to BJP and tons and tons of smaller leaders. That is why BJP swept Municipal polls, even when Sheila trifurcated Delhi municipality to break the BJP hold.

30 seats BJP can sleep walk and win in Delhi right now.

For NaMo effect to be seen -- I want BJP to get simple majority by defeating Congress A and B.
AAP will eventually have to support BJP to prevent a re-poll. So INC is surely out of Delhi.
Unlikely that AAP will support BJP, its already on record. AAP may get outside support by congress. AAP is Congress B.
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any creature coming out of or aspiring NAC (Mordor) has got to be Congress B.
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Amazing how tech diffusion has spurred convergence in trends. The presidential US polls last time was heavy into analytics, targeted messages (often not just at zip code but at household level) and yes, the 'get out the vote' or GOTV operation.

IMO, the namodified BJP is slowly moving towards climbing onto that bandwagon. The GOTV effort is all-important and the constant focus on booth level is one important reminder to us jingoes here that the new BJP's leadership (NM and amit shah) are keyed in to what is important only.
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Congress was the outcome of Briturd implementation of Pressure Valve Theory in Briturd subjugated Bharat.

Now

AAP is the outcome of Congressi implementation of Pressure Valve Theory in current Congressi subjugated Bharat.
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Boss log, is there a place where I can find Modi's vision for India on various issues like unemployment and price rise? I want to shove it down the throat of a few left lib people. I have seen the Modi speeches but is there some documentation?
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devesh wrote:
viv wrote: No, with a few it was successful. Otherwise Khilafat's only positive point was making it clear that some lines have been drawn and will not work. We can only thank Ataturk for bringing that to an end.
eh, what? Ataturk? thank him for what? we are talking about India still, right?
Eh! you did not understand what I wrote.. I said that thankfully Khilafat came to an end since Ataturk removed the Khalifa - so it died down in India too.
The other 'silver lining' if you prefer, is that it made clear that there were some islamists who would never join the common Indian effort but were more keen on their own 'strategies'. wrt Gandhis effort in khilafat-pact , it was minimally successful i.e moderate Islamic leaders did join the mainstream movement.
Khilafat's "point" in the Indian context was that the assorted Islamists (theologians, politicians, opportunists, feudals, and lay-muslims) all came together under one banner of Ummah, facilitated by Gandhi, Nehru, and their INC.
Yes, and that I called a 'positive aspect' as in making it clear that some lines wont be crossed by many of the islamic leaders. That became clear.
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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

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The following panel discussion event is about the future of the anti-corruption movement in India. To update you on upcoming Delhi Elections, Delhi's political mood is swinging rapidly, Outlook is showing as many as 47 per cent of Delhiites willing to give AAP a chance to form the government, as against only 33 per cent for the BJP, and 27 per cent for the Congress. Arvind Kejriwal is way ahead of Sheila Dikshit and Vijay Goel in Chief Ministerial popularity ranking (http://news.outlookindia.com/items.aspx?artid=809284)

To find out more, and for a lively discussion, please do register and attend the UC Berkeley event if you can.

Please forward this to your lists, including Indian groups at work and friends who may be interested.

Warm regards,

Abhay Bhushan, 650-868-66456

Panel discussion on India’s political landscape
with Mr. Gurcharan Das, Mr. Abhay Bhushan and Mr. Pran Kurup.
Moderated by Prof. Robert Goldman.

Followed by Q&A and Book-signing with Mr. Gurcharan Das.
3:30-5:30 pm: Saturday, September 21, 2013

at 2060 Valley Life Sciences Building (VLSB), UC Berkeley


Event is free. Seating is limited, so please register now. https://canaamaadmipartybeagamechangeri ... tbrite.com

Panel Topic: India's political landscape - Can the Aam Aadmi Party (AAP) be a game-changer in India?

Program:

3:30-4:00 pm: Registration (please come early to get front row seats!)

4:00-5:00: Panel discussion with Gurcharan Das, Abhay Bhushan, Pran Kurup, followed by question and answers. Prof. Bob Goldman will moderate the session.

5:00-5:30: Book-signing with Gurcharan Das.

Background: India is in an interesting and challenging stage in its history. Deep discontent with the existing political parties and leaders fueled by a multitude of scams saw the rise of the anti-corruption movement that eventually brought the Indian Parliament to its knees in 2011. But to this day, the Lokpal bill (the primary demand of the agitation) has not been passed. The country's two major parties, the Congress and the BJP, continue to lose their significance, while a plethora of regional parties increasingly appear to hold the cards in the next Lok Sabha elections to be held in 2014. But India can't afford an unstable government given its falling rupee, frequent tensions with Pakistan and China, and decreasing economic growth numbers.

In the recent past, several new parties have been started with aspirations to bring change in India. Most have been unable to catch momentum at a national scale, yet. In Fall 2012, Arvind Kejriwal, a Distinguished Alumnus of IIT Kharagpur, Ashoka Fellow, Ramon Magsaysay Award winner, and key force behind the India against Corruption movement, has launched the Aam Aadmi Party (AAP) (http://www.aamaadmiparty.org) and is contesting the state assembly elections in Delhi this November. His clean record, idealistic and practical ways seem to have captured the imagination of the people of Delhi, especially the younger generation. Through an active social media campaign and the creative use of Internet technologies, AAP has managed to raise most of its funds online. It has also started a unique process of candidate selection.

Key Questions: Can Indians aspire to curtail corruption in the near future? Can politics be transformed in India? Is there hope or is India headed for another hung Parliament? Can AAP transform its groundswell of support to an election victory? Can AAP make an impact at the local, regional and national level? Can AAP be a game-changer in India?

Panelists:

Gurcharan Das: is a well-known author, commentator and public intellectual. He is the author of The Difficulty of Being Good, and the international bestseller India Unbound, which has been translated in many languages and filmed by the BBC. His other works include a novel, A Fine Family, a book of essays, The Elephant Paradigm, and anthology, Three Plays consisting of Larins Sahib, Mira and 9 Jakhoo Hill. Gurcharan Das writes regular column for a number of Indian newspapers including theTimes of India and occasional guest columns for Newsweek, Wall Street Journal, and Foreign Affairs. Gurcharan Das graduated from Harvard University and was CEO of Procter & Gamble India before he took early retirement to become a full-time writer. He lives in Delhi and is currently visiting UC Berkeley.

Abhay Bhushan: is a graduate of the Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) Kanpur and MIT, Internet pioneer and author of FTP, SF Bay Area entrepreneur, and environmental and community activist. Co-founder of Bay Area Action (now Acterra) and of PanIIT, Abhay is the former president of PanIIT USA, IIT Kanpur Alumni Association, IIT Kanpur Foundation and Indians for Collective Action. He has been supporting social and environmental activists in India and in USA for many decades, including the anti-corruption movement, and AAP.

Pran Kurup: is a IIT Kharagpur graduate, bay area entrepreneur, and political commentator (Economic Times websitehttp://blogs.economictimes.indiatimes.com/outsideedge/) and has been closely following politics in India and writing about the anti-corruption movement, the rise of AAP and other events. Pran is the author of three technical books and founder and CEO of Vitalect, Inc., an eLearning company. He was the former President of the Silicon Valley Indian Professionals Association (SIPA) and actively involved in the alumni activities of his alma mater, IIT Kharagpur for over a decade.

Moderator:

Robert Goldman: is a Professor of Sanskrit and Catherine and William L. Magistretti Distinguished Professor in South & Southeast Asian Studies at UC Berkeley. His areas of scholarly interest include Sanskrit literature and literary theory, Indian Epic Studies, and psychoanalytically oriented cultural studies. He has published widely in these areas, authoring several books and dozens of scholarly articles. He is perhaps best known for his work as the Director, General Editor, and a principal translator of a massive and fully annotated translation of the critical edition of the Valmiki Ramayana. His work has been recognized by several awards and fellowships including election as a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. Most recently he has been honored by the President of India as the 2013 awardee of the President's Certificate of Honour for Sanskrit (International). He is a long time resident of India and a keen observer of India's culture and society.

Co-Sponsors of the Event:

Asha for Education, Berkeley, and

Indian students at UC Berkeley

Community Partner:

Center for South Asia Studies, UC Berkeley


Location: please review: http://berkeley.edu/map/

Directions: visit: http://visitors.berkeley.edu/gethere/traveling.shtml

Questions: e-mail [email protected]
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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

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^^Time namo rope in Kiran Bedi as BJP's CM candidate. Sure, it will lead to much heartburn and rebellion possibly from among the homegrown timber inside the dilli BJP org.... but a party that could sideline Sri ML Khurana the way it did, foisted an uninterested VK Malhotra as CM candidate in the last polls etc., sidelining the relatively lightweight vijay goel can't be that difficult now, can it?
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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

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^^^
BJP has already announced that it will contest Delhi without a CM face.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/bjp-w ... i/1171041/
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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

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Hari Seldon wrote:^^Time namo rope in Kiran Bedi as BJP's CM candidate. Sure, it will lead to much heartburn and rebellion possibly from among the homegrown timber inside the dilli BJP org.... but a party that could sideline Sri ML Khurana the way it did, foisted an uninterested VK Malhotra as CM candidate in the last polls etc., sidelining the relatively lightweight vijay goel can't be that difficult now, can it?
Saar, what is Kiran Bedi's credentials to be a CM candidate for BJP. Has she supported BJP in the past ?
All we know that she is a former IPS officer. She might as well be Khujiliwal in burqa with less political ambitions.
BJP will win Delhi despite all predictions though it may not be a landslide. AAP will be nothing but a fart in the sewage line called politics in Delhi. There is too much of a NaMo wave in Bharat. India is still snootist and is scared of him.
Dont forget that all the AH Jaloos and jalsa / BR's 4 days dera in Ramlila maidan were primarily supported by Delhiwallahs. So trust that mood in Delhi and in fact across India is very much anti-Con. It was the manipulation of lowly onion that kicked BJP out of Delhi and it is manipulation of Onion that will bring them back to power.
After all not for nothing Karma is called ..itch with a capital B.
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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

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Viv, I am copying your post and taking it to OT thead.
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Re: Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

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VikasRaina wrote:
Hari Seldon wrote:^^Time namo rope in Kiran Bedi as BJP's CM candidate. Sure, it will lead to much heartburn and rebellion possibly from among the homegrown timber inside the dilli BJP org.... but a party that could sideline Sri ML Khurana the way it did, foisted an uninterested VK Malhotra as CM candidate in the last polls etc., sidelining the relatively lightweight vijay goel can't be that difficult now, can it?
Saar, what is Kiran Bedi's credentials to be a CM candidate for BJP. Has she supported BJP in the past ?
All we know that she is a former IPS officer. She might as well be Khujiliwal in burqa with less political ambitions.
BJP will win Delhi despite all predictions though it may not be a landslide. AAP will be nothing but a fart in the sewage line called politics in Delhi. There is too much of a NaMo wave in Bharat. India is still snootist and is scared of him.
Dont forget that all the AH Jaloos and jalsa / BR's 4 days dera in Ramlila maidan were primarily supported by Delhiwallahs. So trust that mood in Delhi and in fact across India is very much anti-Con. It was the manipulation of lowly onion that kicked BJP out of Delhi and it is manipulation of Onion that will bring them back to power.
After all not for nothing Karma is called ..itch with a capital B.
Aapke moonh main ghee shakkar :)
I have my doubts about BJP winning Delhi, but I wish so nonetheless. ;)
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