Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 30 Sep 2013 21:03

georgia has about 30% afrikkhans.. and irish population is so low among the near 60% safeds.. the point i am trying to make applies to other states as well, in that afrikkhans did not bring their culture and language to amrikhans.. that is a shame in deed. irish speakers are near 10% in georgia.

/sorry/ot

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 30 Sep 2013 21:07

kapilrdave wrote:
Sagar G wrote:I think that CBI has become so corrupt that the only thing that Modi should do is shut it down and start afresh with a new agency and w.r.t. IB and RAW a major purge of pet dogs of congress is required. They must be hounded so badly that it leaves a scar in the memory of IB/RAW and never ever in the future they will dare serve anybody else than Bharat mata.

Nautanki Investigative Agency also needs to be given the CBI treatment.
+1. Expect NaMo to keep home ministry with himself.

Well I was just thinking about it for last fw days and you said it. One Act Delhi Special Police Establishment( Repeal) Act is required to shut down CBI. Immediately Ordinance could be brought to shut down and later Bill can be passed by Parliament.

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THE   Delhi Special Police Establishment (REPEAL) ORDINANCE, 2004

 

Promulgated by the President in the Fifty-fifth Year of the Republic of India.

 

An Ordinance to repeal the Delhi Special Police Establishment Act, 1946.

 

     WHEREAS Parliament is not in session and the President is satisfied that circumstances exist which render it necessary for him to take immediate action;

       NOW, THEREFORE, in exercise of the powers conferred by clause (1) of article 123 of the Constitution, the President is pleased to promulgate the following Ordinance:-

1. (1) This Ordinance may be called the Delhi Special Police Establishment (Repeal) Ordinance, 2014.

(2)  It shall come into force at once.

Short title and commencement.

1 of 2014.

 2.  (1) The Delhi Special Police Establishment, 1946 is hereby repealed.

(2)  The repeal of the said Act shall not affect-

(a) the previous operation of, or anything duly done or suffered under, the said Act, or

(b) any  right,  privilege or obligation or liability acquired, accrued or incurred under the said Act, or

 (c) any penalty, forfeiture or punishment incurred in respect of any offence under the said Act, or

  (d) any investigation, legal proceeding or remedy in respect of any such right, privilege, obligation, liability, penalty, forfeiture or punishment as aforesaid,

and, any such investigation, legal proceeding or remedy may be instituted, continued or enforced and any such penalty, forfeiture or punishment may be imposed as if the said Act had not been repealed:

     

President.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 30 Sep 2013 21:18

Atri wrote:

chaiwala told me, .

I know only one Chaiwala: Narendra Bhai Modi.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 30 Sep 2013 21:25

namo namah before elections
chame chame after elections

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 30 Sep 2013 21:49

Video of Mumbai airport reception.
This makes me nervous. BJP should now try to avoid situations where Namo is brought into such close quarters with near-uncontrolled crowds. It gives troublemakers plenty of opportunity to create pandemonium and do mischief. From now on, he should be kept a controlled distance away from such crowds. It's going to be difficult given the outpouring of emotions but BJP must get smart about this.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 30 Sep 2013 21:54

<del>

kindly post these irrelevant page long posts elsewhere.

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 30 Sep 2013 22:09

Sagar G wrote:
Sushupti wrote:
Pope speaking about "world harmony" !!!!!

This Pope is different. He seems to be modern in thinking. I don't think he will do a Pope John Paul by coming to India and asking his missionaries to harvest India.
This Pope is good for world peace.

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 30 Sep 2013 22:12

Hari Seldon wrote:^^^ Err, no. NM has in *no* way threatened the media, paid or free. Such an assertion IMO hurts more than helps NM's cause.

NM will deal with the media by removing govt discretion and arbitrary power over them. That will ensure some nationalist outlets survive and thrive. The rest, if they have eaten money ('paid' media, after all) to subvert ethics or national interest will be dragged to court under due process.

We need a Truth & Reconciliation committee to probe deals of MEDIA,NGOs, GOVT., UPA and their links:

1. Tehelka and their funding
2. Teesta's funding
3. Funding of Harsh Mander etc.
4. TOIlet,NDTV,CNN/IBN - Foreign funding, Domestic funding and Govt. funding

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 30 Sep 2013 22:24

Muppalla wrote:
RamaY wrote:
3/ YSJ of YSRCP is calling BJP secular

Where is my friend Devesh garu. Not to pick on him but I was talking about it an year ago. The moment of AP's truth is coming. NaMo should grab the opportunity and have 10 lac rally in Rajamundry

I am with you. Jagan should drop all previous banners and become saffron-vadi. time to come back home.

Sagar G · Post by **Sagar G** » 30 Sep 2013 22:28

KJoishy wrote:This Pope is different. He seems to be modern in thinking. I don't think he will do a Pope John Paul by coming to India and asking his missionaries to harvest India. This Pope is good for world peace.

We will see about that but going by the history I am not going to fall for any sugar coated talk. If this pope wants world peace then he must dismantle the hate filled missionary propaganda network. If he does that only then will I buy what you say.

KrishG · Post by **KrishG** » 30 Sep 2013 22:32

KJoishy wrote:This Pope is different. He seems to be modern in thinking. I don't think he will do a Pope John Paul by coming to India and asking his missionaries to harvest India.
This Pope is good for world peace.

The situation on the ground is what matters. There is no doubt that there are good people minding their own business, not supporting forced (or say enticed) Proselytization. The pope, however good he might be, cannot or will not stop rabid EJs from doing what they say is their gods work in India. This needs action on part of the Indian government and people. Hopefully Modiji would bring about something like this. Again, no offense meant to anyone, sometimes things need to be done for the greater good of the country and to protect its culture.

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 30 Sep 2013 22:53

Apologies if this video has been already posted. Its an 22-minute NaMo interview video, and the interviewer is none other Rajiv Shukla. The man has not changed at all, only place and his post have changed. Worth watching it full.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 30 Sep 2013 22:55

RamaY wrote:<del>

kindly post these irrelevant page long posts elsewhere.

I protest! Other than the fact it is written in Sanskrit, that traslation fits perfectly in this thread. Please read it before you delete.

It talks about focusing on what is required for India.

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 30 Sep 2013 23:06

RBP is not an unchalleneged Paswan Leader (less said about all of SC). Chedi Paswan can defeat him in Sasaram, while Nishad (another SC) can easily get all Nishads in his corner, in spite of RBP. In Vihara MS are further divided into forward and backward caste with deep anomosity.

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 30 Sep 2013 23:10

Amol.D wrote:haha modi starts of saying "now the youth of the country demand only 1 thing and dream of only 1 thing" he wanted to say vikas but before that the crowd starts chanting modi modi and drown him out for a few minutes. that was spontenous!

Which one? With the diamond traders association? Do you have an approximate minute mark? I seem to have missed this despite watching the entire speech. TIA.

member_20317 · Post by **member_20317** » 30 Sep 2013 23:11

Rahul M wrote:
SaiK wrote:warning shot to IB, RAW to reorg themselves before he walk in to become PM, and the first report should not be the same as how they reporto madame and maun gov.

they need to think about reorg and fundamental changes.
more of a generic challenge to the govt. R&AW has *nothing* to do with internal politics anyway.

RAW is for external politics.

NaMo cannot be presumed, not to have any external politics of his own. A house wife cannot afford to avoid grime if she has to clean up the house.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 30 Sep 2013 23:12

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 30 Sep 2013 23:26

may be the rural only understand or thinks angrez speaking kangrez (onlee angrez can) knows how to save them? i want to know if there is a honest market survey done (btw, that is bloody good campaign strategy to think of...) to get out there and walk the talk outta the villagers.. this needs a big message passing, and message gathering to invoke a big time change managment. we have no idea, what each rural pocket thinks.

if you don't engage them, they are bound to hit that hand symbol when they get inside the bhooth, a big mustached boozed personality outside the bhooth looking at them, and controlling their next day rationed meal.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 01 Oct 2013 00:01

KJoishy wrote:quote="Sagar G"quote="Sushupti"]
Pope speaking about "world harmony" !!!!!

This Pope is different. He seems to be modern in thinking. I don't think he will do a Pope John Paul by coming to India and asking his missionaries to harvest India.
This Pope is good for world peace.[/quote]

Popsickle for Kul Adharmi
Let him Enjoy

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 01 Oct 2013 00:06

Pope is a jackass. No amount of modern thinking is going to civilize these people. If Modi becomes PM he should give them the one finger salute and close down all those proselytizing missions.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 01 Oct 2013 00:14

I advise BJP: Go for Mission 372, not Mission 272.

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 01 Oct 2013 02:11

yes..this kind of ****ing off in forums will attract voters and make modi PM.

pl don't make Modi into a ron paul type..phenomenal support from die hard supporters, but they are so fringe that they scare away mainstream people.

what next, modi should spit on obama, modi should throw slipper at jintao, modi should place firecrackers under nawas shariff..

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 01 Oct 2013 02:15

A great eclipse has befallen us but in nine months it'll pass, says Narendra Modi in Mumbai

India today report on namo's address to the diamond traders assoc in Mumbai's banda-kurla complex.

Read the report and can't escape the sense that even 'em suspect journos have started to develop a grudging fascination (dare I say 'respect'?!) for namo's ability to connect with various audiences impromptu. Only.

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 01 Oct 2013 02:31

Gus wrote:yes..this kind of ****ing off in forums will attract voters and make modi PM.

pl don't make Modi into a ron paul type..phenomenal support from die hard supporters, but they are so fringe that they scare away mainstream people.

what next, modi should spit on obama, modi should throw slipper at jintao, modi should place firecrackers under nawas shariff..

"Like"

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 01 Oct 2013 02:45

Hind Times odds and ends:

The Buzz:Keeping Tabs on Political Grapevine

A ruse with no use

Punjab Pradesh Congress chief Partap Singh Bajwa has kicked up a row by allegedly using Sonia Gandhi’s name to bring party leaders and workers from the state to Delhi on Sunday. According to some MLAs, Bajwa had assured them that a package for the flood-hit Malwa region would be announced after their meeting with the Congress president. Sonia never met them and instead, they were later told to hold a dharna against Narendra Modi outside Gujarat Bhavan to protest the eviction of Sikh farmers from Kutch. Lured by false promises.

In for some replacement therapy

With Lalu Prasad being convicted in the fodder scam, speculation has begun in Bihar’s political circles on how the powerful Yadav community was going to react. Bihar politicians feel that the Yadavs may throw their weight behind the BJP in order to teach Lalu’s arch rival Nitish Kumar a lesson. If that were to happen, the BJP’s poll prospects would further improve and a new Yadav leader could very well emerge in the state. Lalu had once replaced Ram Lakhan Singh Yadav as the top Yadav leader. Who could be waiting in the wings?

His lucky charm in the polls

Himachal Pradesh CM Virbhadra Singh does not hide his friendship with his Gujarat counterpart Narendra Modi, and does not hesitate to describe him as an able administrator. The reason: he considers Modi as a good talisman for him. At a Congress workers’ meeting recently, Singh recalled, “Many times, we have campaigned in the same village. But as far as Himachal Pradesh is concerned, Modi is good luck for us. When Modi was in-charge of our state (as BJP general secretary), the Congress took the lead and we won all the four Lok Sabha seats. This time, with Modi as the BJP’s face, we will win all the seats. I tell you he is not invincible.” Politics makes strange bedfellows.

Bit of a rift in the lute

Why didn’t Narendra Modi offer any praise for his good friend, Tamil Nadu CM J Jayalalithaa, when he addressed a rally in Tiruchi? TN BJP leaders say Modi was not too happy with the state government for the lack of progress in the probe into the killing of TN BJP leader “auditor” Ramesh. It is another matter that the TN government rolled out the red carpet for his travel to Tiruchi, even keeping an aircraft on standby for him. A momentary fit of irritation perhaps.

So he was piqued about the TN killings of BJP workers unlike the Forum was bollivating about.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 01 Oct 2013 02:46

Gus wrote:yes..this kind of ****ing off in forums will attract voters and make modi PM.

pl don't make Modi into a ron paul type..phenomenal support from die hard supporters, but they are so fringe that they scare away mainstream people.

what next, modi should spit on obama, modi should throw slipper at jintao, modi should place firecrackers under nawas shariff..

A First Post article on similar lines:

http://www.firstpost.com/politics/dear- ... 29743.html

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 01 Oct 2013 02:48

Gus wrote:yes..this kind of ****ing off in forums will attract voters and make modi PM.

pl don't make Modi into a ron paul type..phenomenal support from die hard supporters, but they are so fringe that they scare away mainstream people.

what next, modi should spit on obama, modi should throw slipper at jintao, modi should place firecrackers under nawas shariff..

+1
..OT..
The firecrackers bit was pretty hilarious...i just imagined how it would look...

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 01 Oct 2013 02:54

Hari Seldon wrote:A great eclipse has befallen us but in nine months it'll pass, says Narendra Modi in Mumbai

India today report on namo's address to the diamond traders assoc in Mumbai's banda-kurla complex.

Read the report and can't escape the sense that even 'em suspect journos have started to develop a grudging fascination (dare I say 'respect'?!) for namo's ability to connect with various audiences impromptu. Only.

Leftists and liberals are attracted to power. Its a curious thing common amongst all these blowhards and bullies who try to enforce one opinion on everyone else. They see anybody strong willed who is powerful and then they will go along with that person. Its because they themselves lack conviction in their beliefs and seek to disguise that by cottoning onto whatever is "moral" and "righteous", hence their profound need to sermonize the world and decide what is right and wrong, protect the oppressed, minorities etc. Ultimately, what most of these people crave is recognition and aggrandizement about how noble they are. Thats also how the INC has all these years cultivated such a huge clique of hangers on, by creating all these useless parastical societies, think tanks, historian groups etc. Now, they see their idols have feet of clay and its Modi who is power. So they are scared and also woefully admitting he has what they lack, conviction
But their desparation also means that some will do everything and anything to keep the existing dispensation in power. Expect more attacks on Modi and the hatred to become more and more visceral as the feeling gains that they have to get the UPA in, if they have to survive. The smarter ones will tone down their behaviour and try to cotton favor with BJP if it becomes clear that Modi has a chance of becoming PM.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 01 Oct 2013 03:30

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 01 Oct 2013 03:33

Sushupti wrote:

Can anything else be expected from the able son of such a father??

The BJP should beware of such evangelists

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 01 Oct 2013 03:37

politicsparty guy has some pet themes:
- Sonia and paapu are above all the muck of Indian politics.
- MMS and PC are entirely responsible for all the corruption and 2Gs are above all that!
- Hates BJP political leaders
- Hates Andhra political leaders. Keeps wanting KKR to be kicked out. Before that it was Rosiah. YSR was God
- Jagan is God's son and will sweep all of Andhra Pradesh.
- 2Gs are misled by their advisers and should have included the PP guy.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 01 Oct 2013 05:50

the only dominance alliance against kangrez as of now is at grass roots level - i.e. common allegiance to equality of religion, caste and creed.. that even normally single man like mahatma gandhi can not achieve. it is called unity. majority manifestos if it comes from grass roots, then that itself forms as election campaign statements for the majority party against corruption.

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 01 Oct 2013 05:53

@krishnarjun108: Andhra-Seema Bjp protests against Sushma Swaraj's irresponsible comments in party meet http://t.co/f7gdBSAD0C

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 01 Oct 2013 06:15

Time this failed rejected former cm of delhi, unpopular ~~leader~~ politician of haryana sushma is put under some sort of control to where she goes and what she utters IF NOT then time she went back to her original party JD.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 01 Oct 2013 06:33

Dhananjay wrote:Time this failed rejected former cm of delhi, unpopular ~~leader~~ politician of haryana sushma is put under some sort of control to where she goes and what she utters IF NOT then time she went back to her original party JD.

+1

She has no reason for going to Mahabubnagar, AP and give a speech. NaMo is building a situation in AP so that things will play in an advantageous manner. Whatever may be the history or genuineness, it is simply a strife torn state and any step on one side you will be hated on the other. BJP has already played one sided so far due to really foolish top leadership. NaMo HYD meet was an icebreaker and there got to be some buildup. TDP reaching out is another pointer to future. Jagan's praise of NaMo makes him centrality in a state where even getting deposits is remote few day ago.

It is not about NOT giving Telangana but it is about how to be a player there as a national party and not as a sub-regional party. She is spoiling sport with an unnecessary speech.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 01 Oct 2013 06:37

Sushupti wrote:

This is the true. However, Jagan has takes the congress's space and hence the fight will be between TDP and Jagan. If he is really on the wave there is no need to make NaMo the great administrator statement. His salvo is to test and see if he can spoil the chances of TDP+BJP on a NaMo wave. Distrust of CBN is across and the T-BJP is exploiting it to stop a quick closure on TDP+BJP alliance.

disha · Post by **disha** » 01 Oct 2013 07:01

Can weakened Jagan be used to do two things in AP?

1. Drive TDP into BJP's arms, giving BJP an upper hand.
2. Can Jagan be used to split INC's vote in both Seemandhra?

All the EJ and minority vote in Telangana and Seemandhra can go to Jagan and INC but the rest should be mopped up by TRS+BJP in Telangana and TDP+BJP in Seema-Andhra.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 01 Oct 2013 07:15

^^^
If Orchestrated and planned the above is possible. That is the path NaMo seems to build. CBN is a tough negotiator and hence it takes some time. Meanwhile there is no reason for other leaders to spoil the show.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 01 Oct 2013 07:40

disha wrote:Can weakened Jagan be used to do two things in AP?

1. Drive TDP into BJP's arms, giving BJP an upper hand.
2. Can Jagan be used to split INC's vote in both Seemandhra?

All the EJ and minority vote in Telangana and Seemandhra can go to Jagan and INC but the rest should be mopped up by TRS+BJP in Telangana and TDP+BJP in Seema-Andhra.

1. BJP has no leverage to drive any one into its hands. There are a few constituencies where it should focus to win. With TDP+BJP combine there are 7 winnable seats leaving 10 maximum winnable for INC+TRS.

2. YSRC+INC are one and only. There will be secret seat-sharing if they fight separately. If there are any split of INC by YSR it will be exception due to local issues than norm.

In T, it is INC+TRS vs TDP+BJP and in non-T it is INC+YSRC vs TDP. Anything else is exception. All other efforts by BJP are advantageous to INC including handling by BJP in T and speeches by Susshma Swaraj.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 01 Oct 2013 08:01

Met BJP leaders from coastal AP few days back. They are quit depressed and angry with T area leaders who do not allow them any voice for them. BJP is destroyed in 25 MP sears without getting any advantage. Sushma drama and the insults made by BJP leaders like KiShan Reddy day after day and party is dead. l
Any amount of namo actions or cbn help can help BJP when this kind of stupidity is in the party.