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Narayana Rao wrote:Met BJP leaders from coastal AP few days back. They are quit depressed and angry with T area leaders who do not allow them any voice for them. BJP is destroyed in 25 MP sears without getting any advantage. Sushma drama and the insults made by BJP leaders like KiShan Reddy day after day and party is dead. l
Any amount of namo actions or cbn help can help BJP when this kind of stupidity is in the party.
BJP state president Kishan Reddy had working relationship with Gali Reddys and YSR. His moves may be beneficial to YSRC.
Another senior BJP leader Chennamaneni Vidyasagar Rao is 1/2 TRS person and always want to put BJP under TRS. Of course Sushma Swaraj and Advani shut BJP out of 25 seats in non-T.

With leaders like this tough luck for Modi in AP. His chances in AP were screwed even before he got reins. Modi should give reins back to Venkaiah Naidu who doesn't limit his scope only to T and was successful in forging alliance across. With Venkaih Naidu looking BJP affairs in late 90s, TDP was able to comfortably work with both BJP and CPI/M in the past.
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^^^
so let me get this straight: all the khujli is b/c non-SA's are in leadership positions?! great, and you wonder why even if there are many T-people who don't particularly want a separate Telangana, they will do absolutely nothing to stop or move against such a proposal?

T is not SA's strategic depth. but hey, you don't have to worry about this for long anyway; after division, both sides will have a chance to elect their own leadership. even if there is a lot of heartburn on Kosta side.

it is a fight for leadership and political power. cynically using regionalism to sustain itself. but it is no less cynical than "Telugu variki Telugu rashtram" being a smoke screen for "don't cross Kosta interests, or else!".
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IIRC, Venkaiah Naidu took a back seat because of a personal tragedy and ill health. Is he back to his former self and willing to shoulder the responsibility? It may not be such a bad idea if he is made state president.
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there are indications that Modi is receiving inputs on T-issue from someone close to the Parivar and very active in KG-politics.

if my info and guesswork on Modi is right, then he might be planning something for AP which none of the existing powers have done simply b/c of their shock at the events. there might not be just an AP-BJP anymore. if BJP wants to grow in Kosta and allow the T-leadership to make its decisions, then the way forward is only one choice. there are some important brains behind this, and the timing and planning will be picked carefully.

there are voices within the Kosta too which are shaping the future course of BJP. all inputs will be considered and decision taken on when to announce bifurcation of AP-BJP.

Modi is serious about the South.
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Seven undertrials, including six SIMI members, escape from jail in MP - http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/seven ... -mp-425996

Too many Jihadists escaping these days. 3-4 days back an IM member had escaped from a Mumbai Court.
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Venkayya can not do much and with d4 trying their level best to destroy. His stock is quit low in AP for a long time. Modi CBN can sweep AP if bjp does not act stupidly. There is no way BJP alone can stop Mafia plan for 30 plus seats in AP. it needs CBN and should not creat problem for him with stupid statements.

Deveshji, how many seats do u think BJP will win if it goes alone in AP? Or with CBN making the Cushman type dramas time and again?
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Pranav wrote:Seven undertrials, including six SIMI members, escape from jail in MP - http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/seven ... -425996Too many Jihadists escaping these days. 3-4 days back an IM member had escaped from a Mumbai Court.
Shinde Ka Naam Lo orr Jail Ka Door Khol Dho.

http://www.newslaundry.com/2013/09/let- ... ycophancy/
In the beginning there was darkness inner party democracy. Then God High Command said, “Let there be light sycophancy” and there was light sycophancy.As Stanley Miller Sanjay Gandhi showed in 1953 1976, with the right conditions Emergency in place, the coming together of light sycophancy, water cesspool, methane hot-air, ammonia nepotism, and Hydrogen corruption could result in the creation of the building blocks of life politics. When scientists journalists analysed the results of the Miller Gandhi experiment, they discovered that these building blocks were none other than amino acids Padma awards, nucleic acids plum posts and sugars governorships. In time, the building blocks came together and gave rise to a cell community. The cells communities in turn divided, resulting in lowlife vote banks.
Thus, in one sense, humanity governments as we know today wouldn’t have been possible without light sycophancy.But what is the nature of light sycophancy? Is it formed of particles technocrats or waves plutocrats? As it turns out, physicists politicians consider light sycophancy to be a form of electromagnetic radiation servitude, with a very broad spectrum. Today we shall study this spectrum of light sycophancy.The most harmful form of light sycophancy is one that is of low wavelength self-esteem and is not visible to the naked eye. Like for example Gamma Rays Mani Shankar Aiyar and X-rays Shashi Tharoor. They can travel articulate in any medium, allowing them to easily pass through objects media scrutiny. This form of light sycophancy can’t be visualised because it is subatomic subtle. It can, however, be detected – through Geiger-counters autobiographies and photo-plates panel discussions.At the other end of the spectrum of light sycophancy are Microwaves Kapil Sibal and Radio waves Salman Khurshid. They have large wavelengths egos and even though they too aren’t visible to the naked eye, they are largely harmless and can be ignored. Their radiation utterances cannot pass though metal Arnab. This is because the moment they strike it, they can be caught. Our universe is full of them. Indeed, it is through their use that we hope to make contact with the extra-terrestrial as only an extra-terrestrial can fully grasp their radiation utterances.Flanking the visible form of light sycophancy are Infrared Jagdish Tytler and Ultraviolet Kamal Nath. They are mostly employed for scientific experiments instigating unrest where their use is substantive. They lie low most times, but are brought to the fore on a case-by-case basis, as what they do can easily be detected by precise instruments eye-witness accounts.Of most interest is the visible form of light sycophancy. Between 400 40 and 700 70 nanometres years, the range constitutes thousands of colours party-workers and shades spokespersons. Some examples are Yellow Sanjay Jha and Red Ajay Maken. Visible in glorious Technicolor, it is especially enjoyable to see the change during the Aurora Borealis Press Club event.
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Some thing which floated back up in the flush bowl.
The Punters In Orange City
The RSS knows well that Modi can bring in only a limited number of seats. But by projecting him it’s making a calculated gamble.
NEELABH MISHRA
Modi Impact?

187*
Aggregate NDA tally for 2014 elections, based on on-ground predictions by experts sought out by Outlook in all 29 states
* BJP + Shiv Sena + SAD + INLD


***

The Biblical God created Man in his own image. Likewise, the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) would like to fashion Indian democracy in its own image. But the script, though it parallels the Christian mythology of creation, slightly deviates from that: the Sangh parivar’s political engineers want to remould our multi-party democracy in the image of the American presidential contest. Con­sider the terminology used. Jus­tifying the RSS’s hurried foisting of Narendra Modi as the BJP’s prime ministerial candidate, the party’s senior leader Arun Jaitley described the choice as the result of a “primary”. The campaign, too, is being projected as a bin­ary: on one day, news channels juxtapose Modi’s speech against Rahul Gandhi’s; on another, a Modi speech from Gujarat is pitched to taunt Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s ceremonial Independence Day speech from the Red Fort. Indian reality does, however, force its confusions on such a projection, with, say, Bihar chief minister Nitish Kumar putting his hat in the ring and upsetting the binary. What’s more, however strong the wishes of the BJP and Modi, they aren’t hurriedly turning into the horses that will carry them unhindered to victory.

Our feedback from India’s 29 states and opinion polls conducted by media groups and polling agencies don’t promise the BJP and the NDA any substantial increase in parliamentary seats outside northern and western India. In these regions, the BJP already has an optimum share of seats in its core strongholds like Madhya Pradesh, Chhattisgarh, Himachal Pradesh, Jharkhand, Gujarat and Goa. So, even if there’s a huge jump in the BJP’s percentage voteshare in these states, the increase in its seats, if any, cannot go skyrocketing. In Rajasthan, Punjab, Delhi and Maharash­tra, the BJP—or its allies—might turn tables on the UPA. But the gains here will be limited by the number of MPs these states send to the Lok Sabha. The gains the NDA may have in the north and west will be undermined by losses in Karn­ataka, till recently its only southern bastion. And with his departure from the coalition, Nitish seems to have ensured that even if the BJP gains a few seats in Bihar, the NDA would be down in that state: it had won 32 seats last time; this time it could be half or a third of that number.

So the only big catchment left is UP, for, south of Madhya Pradesh and Maharashtra, and east of Bihar and Jha­rkhand, the BJP has a negligible presence. But even in UP, the BJP can’t hope for more than 30 of the 80 seats: the electorate is fractured and the Muzaffarnagar and Ayo­­dhya gambles of the BJP and SP may have caused a polarisation detrimental to both. If the BJP’s tally touches 30, that will be thrice the present number—it’s difficult to see any more accruals. Overall, in effect, the BJP won’t be able to corner more than half of the Congress’s anti-incumbency losses. The rest will go to regional parties or the Left.

Therefore, Modi’s tally does not look better that that of Atal Behari Vajpayee in 1998: 183 seats. It leaves him 90-100 seats short for government formation. And for Modi, a polarising figure, the prospect of attracting allies is far bleaker than it was for Vajpayee in 1998. So, for all the hype pumped up by the media, his publicity machinery and corporate backers, Modi’s prime ministerial climb remains a steep gradient. Remember Vajpayee in 1996? Despite a sizeable saffron surge, he was unable to form a government.

So why this hype that Modi will bring the BJP 200-225 seats, leaving regional parties no choice but to join in? Did the RSS not do a realistic reckoning? Ground- or middle-level RSS-BJP workers may get carried away, but hard-headed pracharaks recognise the difficulties. It’s a carefully played gamble: sarsanghchalak Mohan Bhagwat chose to micromanage the BJP as never before to ensure Modi’s elevation. The hype, of course, is to maximise returns through sheer propaganda. {this psecs inner fear comes forth. its not propagandu that powers a wave , sirji. Its belief and conviction- incapable by anyone in the congi-left-sickular stable to evoke}

As with their ideological goals, the parivar’s Modi gamble is also backed by long-term calculation. Their purpose in diluting the Hindutva agenda in the 1996-2004 period, by postponing Ayo­dhya, Article 370 and the uniform civil code, was to fashion the BJP as a party of governance, making it the default option in terms of governance. Now it’s time to superpose Hindu nationalism or the RSS’s majoritarian worldview firmly and indelibly on the BJP’s governance and development agenda. If, to achieve this, the RSS has to live with a 1996 type of interregnum, albeit with an unapologetic Hindutva worldview driving the nat­ional discourse this time, before a completely Hindutva dominated NDA-II is able to govern India, so be it.

A few days back, some senior RSS pracharaks heading a front organisation of the parivar gleefully told this correspondent how the default urban Hindu youth of today— tech-savvy, educated, and with global aspirations—though he may not belong to any saffron organisation, is likely to be temple-going, Pakistan-loathing and wary of Muslims, more so than the previous urban generations. This, they said, was owing to the mahaul (ambience) of debate they have created. Narendrabhai, they claimed, excites the imagination and aspirations of this generation; cultivating them and consolidating their goodwill would mean building a long-term asset. I still have my reservations about this characterisation being universally true for the new urban middle-class generation. I doubt if the modern educated Dalit Hindu in Uttar Pradesh, for instance, would share this trait
All these surveys pulled from behind are precisely for the sole reason of deterring regional parties from getting drawn by the NaMo wave to the BJP
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Gus wrote:yes..this kind of ****ing off in forums will attract voters and make modi PM. :roll:

pl don't make Modi into a ron paul type..phenomenal support from die hard supporters, but they are so fringe that they scare away mainstream people.

what next, modi should spit on obama, modi should throw slipper at jintao, modi should place firecrackers under nawas shariff..
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Narayana Rao wrote:
Deveshji, how many seats do u think BJP will win if it goes alone in AP? Or with CBN making the Cushman type dramas time and again?

and what do you think they will gain by prematurely aligning with TDP once again? without bargaining and extracting hard concessions?

I'll tell you what'll happen: they'll be the used cond** once again.

they need to ally with TDP. there is no doubt about that. but they've learned their lesson. they've seen what TDP is capable of doing.
they once had a chance of building a genuine cadre in AP, and they squandered it at the alter of coalition dharma. if they repeat that mistake again, they'll be dead in Telangana and AP for another 20 years.
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Lilo wrote:Some thing which floated back up in the flush bowl.
The Punters In Orange City
The RSS knows well that Modi can bring in only a limited number of seats. But by projecting him it’s making a calculated gamble.
NEELABH MISHRA
Modi Impact?

187*
Aggregate NDA tally for 2014 elections, based on on-ground predictions by experts sought out by Outlook in all 29 states
* BJP + Shiv Sena + SAD + INLD
So the article does come up with a number (187)., does not tell how and indulges in lot of rona-dhona about how Modi will not become a PM.

Let me be an analcyst for a moment:

If BJP wins 187, then from whose kitty does does it get additional 73 seats from present? Let us assume that Maya in Bengal, Biju in Orissa, Jaya in TN and MY/Maya in UP (interchangeably) retain their individual party seats., then that 73 will come from CongI kitty, which means they will be reduced to some 130 seats* DMK will

It will be interesting for CongIs to run a government with their 130 seats. They can try to support MY/Maya/Niku as PM and everybody else (Maya, Jaya, Biju etc) should line up to support that PM candidate or they line up and support a CongI PM.

If that is indeed the case, the tea party between Sonia, Maya, Mamta and Jaya is on me. :-)

And if CongI can play that game, so can BJP. They are only 90 short of striking distance.

Now we know better than the above rhona-dhona., and here is some more analysis:

Modi has to win UP and K'tka (and not screw up anywhere else) and CongIs have to lose Maharashtra and AP. This are the battle ground states and the survey does not cover it.

The survey does not cover the reception Modi is getting in Mah, MP, Delhi, TN (survey was done before the actual contact by Modi).

Yes, outlook tried to flush down their inner pakistan and regurgitated what floated up!! Since if they had contacted me - I already was giving 140-180 seats to Modi. :rotfl: That makes me an eggspert.

With this article and if the current swing holds, I am hastening for BJP to cross 190 now - more in the range of 210. That is within striking distance to form a government and CongI reduced to around what BJP is now. All Modi then needs is support from Mamta, Jaya and Biju - the rest of the assorted hanger-ons will come aboard which is most likely either Maya or Mullahyam. Atleast a first step towards Cong. mukt bharat.

And when that happens, CongI would have lost Raj, Guj, Punjab, Haryana, MP, UP, Bihar, Chattisgarh, Jharkhand. Maybe HP and U'Khand too. So where will the CongIs hide their tails?

*If Tsunamo holds, I will not be surprised by the figure of some 240. And AP is not screwed up. Since Odisha, Ktka will also join the bandwagon.
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Wokay, time for some fly on the wall tidbits
when RNS anounced target 272 it was not outta mushy figure
the internal survey had indicated 321 seat minimum point to note
it was minimum with maximum of 353 this was vehemently pooh poohed
by LKji and soosoomaji and party after mucho hair scratching(what ever is left )
RNS announced target 272 and shut everyone up
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Secular Barometer. (borrowed from Twitter)
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if u have to win an election in such a populous and multi-identity country like India you need to stand by an identity which is common in this multi-identity country. NAMO has so far focused on one such common identity : anti-congress. It is this anti-congress identity which is bringing rallying the ground around him. And he has one more common identity: pro-nation ( derivatives of this ID is pro army, pro-governance, pro-business, pro-rule of land ... ) and he is linking both of them. He should be careful not to get into Hindu ID at this time because that would immediately split the crowd in lines of caste.
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SD ji,
Can you elaborate how dwelling on Yindoo identity will split voters on caste lines ?
Especially as this assertion of yours is counter intuitive.

As an extension to Vikas - NaMo should focus on lack of jobs for young people in Congi rule.
Explain How UPA never cared for job creation as much as it cared for keeping people enslaved to govt handouts. That he will create real jobs and make sure young indians will never feel the need to spread their hand in front of the govt ... Etc
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IMO the best option for NM would be to enhance Dharmic and Bharatiya identity along with a massive drive on developmental and governance issues. Foreign policy wise the best answer is going away openly from the Nehruvian and thus staking legitimacy to rubbish Chinese aggression of Tibet and asking China to cede control of Kailash Mansarover as a CBM in return for nothing. Obviously they will cringe and do nothing. But a 100 million pages will be written in context of KM. NM must seek to free the KM region and put it under a joint governance model comprising India-Tibet-Nepal.
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The link below is from Quora:
https://www.quora.com/Politics-of-India ... n-Facebook#

The question asked is this:
How significant or substantial are the claims of Modi supporters frequently quoted Modi’s achievement pointwise in Facebook?

1. Gujarat's GDP growth under Modi is exceptional.
2. 2003-2013 is the only 10 straight years ever in Gujarat history which are complete Riot-free.
3. Automobile majors are flocking to Gujarat because of great industrial climate Modi has created.
4. Gujarat is only state in the whole India to provide 24*7 and 365 days electricity to almost all of its 18000 villages.
5. World bank's statement of 2011 said, Gujarat roads are closer to international standards.
6. In WikiLeaks US diplomat described Modi as "incorruptible" — in fact, "the lone honest Indian politician".
7. Gujarat's agriculture growth is 10-11% since whole last decade.
8. Gujarat tourism is growing faster than ever before.
9. According to central govt's labour bureau's report, Gujarat has the lowest unemployment rate in country.
10. Gujarat is the first state in country to have "high speed wireless broadband" service in its all 18000 villages.
11. 2010 forbes magazine rates Ahmedabad the fastest growing city in the India and 3rd in World.
12. Modi made the Asia's biggest solar plant.
13. Every Gujarati is in love with Modi.
The most up-voted answer is pretty detailed and counters the above claims with "links" and other "references". Although Counter-counters have been posted supporting above claims, they are not as convincing IMO. Request gurus here to contribute there.
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Lilo wrote:Some thing which floated back up in the flush bowl.
The Punters In Orange City
The RSS knows well that Modi can bring in only a limited number of seats. But by projecting him it’s making a calculated gamble.
NEELABH MISHRA
Modi Impact?
Indeed, googled authors name and got this in result(got caught borrowing some material):-

http://asiancorrespondent.com/21598/int ... lagiarism/ .
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>>The most up-voted answer is pretty detailed and counters the above claims with "links" and other "references". Although Counter-counters have been posted supporting above claims, they are not as convincing IMO. Request gurus here to contribute there.


counters counter is quite convincing...the most voted up answer is stupid imho..like claiming that upa and not modi provided solar plants and a raja provided broadband to guj villages..laughable...fights over cricket matches have been described as riots. and agro has grown phenomenally even by authors own stats....don't know how the guy is countering modi...
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Then you should go there and point out the ludicrousness of the comments. Not everyone can articulate those points or see through them as you did.
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Very strong letter written by Shri Arun Jaitley to MMS:

CBI, NIA colluding with politics of Congress - http://www.niticentral.com/2013/10/01/c ... 40193.html
What happened thereafter has been one of the greatest scandals in recent investigation history. The CBI started visiting the jail and negotiating bargains with various police officers that in case they agree to depose against senior officers the officers of the Central Intelligence Bureau and political leaders of Gujarat, the accused in custody would be permitted to get default bail by the CBI not filing a Charge Sheet within 90 days of their arrest. Those who were not arrested were induced to falsely implicate Central IB officials and political leaders of Gujarat BJP in lieu of they being not shown as accused in the Charge Sheet making them witnesses. The consequences of this exercise was to implicate the Central Intelligence Bureau and if possible the political leadership of Gujarat. ...

A political cell has been operating with Union Ministers and certain senior office bearers of the Congress. A retired officer of the Indian Police Service of the Gujarat cadre has been subsumed as Advisor to the Home Minister. He has no role in running the Ministry but only coordinates efforts to implicate political leaders of Gujarat. He meets family members of imprisoned police officers, strikes bargains with them for promising them freedom in response to false statements being made by them. Officers of the investigative agencies have been visiting jails and meeting imprisoned officers privately to strike bargains. This is a part of the series of unlawful activities being carried out by the investigative agencies under the UPA.

Senior officers of the investigative agencies are being promised with post retirement jobs. The last two Directors of the CBI have been offered lucrative jobs after retirement. The last Director of the NIA has also been given a post retirement job. The present Special Director of the CBI is being appointed a Vice Chancellor in consideration of services rendered.
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x-post from strat forum corruption thread -

3 CBI directors joined Jindal’s university - http://www.sunday-guardian.com/news/3-c ... PA.twitter

Three Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) directors either joined or got associated with Naveen Jindal's O.P. Jindal Global University in various capacities, after retirement. These directors are Ashwani Kumar, R.K. Raghavan and D.R. Kaarthikeyan. Naveen Jindal is being probed by the CBI for allegedly misrepresenting facts to bag the Amarkonda Murgadangal coal block in Jharkhand in 2008, along with another group firm Gagan Sponge Iron Private Limited. The CBI has registered an FIR against Jindal in the case and questioned him on Thursday.
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Lilo wrote:SD ji,
Can you elaborate how dwelling on Yindoo identity will split voters on caste lines ?
Especially as this assertion of yours is counter intuitive.

As an extension to Vikas - NaMo should focus on lack of jobs for young people in Congi rule.
Explain How UPA never cared for job creation as much as it cared for keeping people enslaved to govt handouts. That he will create real jobs and make sure young indians will never feel the need to spread their hand in front of the govt ... Etc
Hindu identity must be totally aligned with spiritual lifestyle. National identity should be seen as outgrowth of Hindu identity- meaning Hindu identity should have national outlook.

For example, lack of national outlook correctly aligned leads to situation where Hindus assume by default that state will behave uniformly well with all but the fact is vague ideas like secularism enable selective behavior.

A separate thread after muzaffarnagar riots on work done by secular setup wrt Godhra massacre & subsequent riots v/s work done post attacks by automatic weapons & disturbance should make it clear how much work is done by secular set up selectively.
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Narendra Modi to address finale of Manthan on 2nd October in Delhi

http://www.narendramodi.in/narendra-mod ... -in-delhi/
Over 7000 students from over 200 top colleges across the nation will attend the interaction with Shri Modi. The colleges include the IITs, IIMs, Business Schools, Law Schools and other universities.
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gakakkad wrote:>>The most up-voted answer is pretty detailed and counters the above claims with "links" and other "references". Although Counter-counters have been posted supporting above claims, they are not as convincing IMO. Request gurus here to contribute there.


counters counter is quite convincing...the most voted up answer is stupid imho..like claiming that upa and not modi provided solar plants and a raja provided broadband to guj villages..laughable...fights over cricket matches have been described as riots. and agro has grown phenomenally even by authors own stats....don't know how the guy is countering modi...

The supposed analysis is such nonsense that I would welcome the propagander to a more main stream site. Then we can have a day with his ... on the line. The links adduced as evidence themselves say a completely different story.

Let the bums like these try out their luck in the real world. Pant uttarne mein maja aayega.

Sanjay Jha chaap job.

Here you guys prepare yourself too. This is the kind of analysis that will be attempted in next six months.

http://www.quora.com/Politics-of-India- ... n-Facebook
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kmkraoind wrote:Secular Barometer. (borrowed from Twitter)
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It is sad that saffron has become synonymous with communal and green with secular when the truth is the exact opposite. Bharatiyas must start visibly reversing this symbolism with solid fact, starting with the historical record of our tolerance and accomodation.
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BJP forms 20 Uttar Pradesh panels for 2014 polls

Lucknow, Oct 1 - The Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) Tuesday formed 20 committees in Uttar Pradesh (UP) to oversee the party's campaigns and networking in the run-up to the Lok Sabha polls.

The party held a marathon meeting to assess its preparedness for the string of rallies over the next few months in which Gujarat Chief Minister and the BJP's prime ministerial candidate Narendra Modi would be the chief speaker.

Senior leader M. Venkaiah Naidu and general secretary in-charge of party affairs in the state Amit Shah chaired the meeting.

Addressing media persons after the meeting, Naidu said that Uttar Pradesh was the centre of its national plans to return to power and everything was being micro-managed in the state now.

"UP is a very important state for us and we want our workers, activists and supporters to go all out in the state to create a positive atmosphere for the BJP," Naidu said.

He announced a Friends of BJP campaign would be run in the urban areas to "further consolidate the goodwill generated in favour of the party".

Naidu also said that eight-odd rallies would be held across the state between October 15 and November 30. These would culminate in a 'Karyakarta Mahakumbh' in Lucknow in December.

The party has urged Modi to address as many rallies as possible in the state as it would like to cash in on his popularity. IANS
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I was thinking that now that Nawaz Sharif has called Manmohan Singh a Dehati Aurat, Rahul can now take his gora "friends" e.g. David Miliband to Manmohan's Race Course Road home for poverty sightseeing tours rather than to some remote village in U.P. Rahul can also eat food and also have sleepovers at Man Mohan's house for our media's benefit. How convenient that would be!
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ramana wrote:
Rahul M wrote:warning shot to IB, RAW to reorg themselves before he walk in to become PM, and the first report should not be the same as how they reporto madame and maun gov.

they need to think about reorg and fundamental changes.
more of a generic challenge to the govt. R&AW has *nothing* to do with internal politics anyway.

Err, RAW in 1975-1977 was used to harrass Opposition figures(across all party lines:Jana Snagh< Socialists, Communists, Cong syndicate personnel) and their relatives abroad in UK and US. That was one reason why Morarji Desai wanted to disband and recreate RAW. RN Kao promised him that it wont happen ever again. Certainly, it's more than any Indian hand.

Looks like INC is back to old tricks.


Anyway has there any further news on the Baba Ramdev Passport exit control markings from New Delhi Airport? Thats the Delhi Police which is under Shinde.
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what scares me is the confidence and disdain(for Modi as if he is her LomeRaj and she can pluck and throw away any moment she desire) with which she is talking about PM candidate Modi. Whose hand she has on her back? It's not just any Indian hand but something much more than that. And of course, she is talking about next CBI attack on Modi implicating him in police encounter case. Probably, that's why Jaitely wrote a letter to PM and Modi has already started speaking about CBI fighting election for Congress.
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^^
David Milliband has a unit in UK that strategizes CON party moves for PAPPU.
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Sushupti wrote:
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what scares me is the confidence and disdain(for Modi as if he is her LomeRaj and she can pluck and throw away any moment she desire) with which she is talking about PM candidate Modi. Whose hand she has on her back?
You want to know? Her connections are deep. Sonia,Nawaz Sharif or any one who can destroy any Indian.

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vivek.rao wrote:^^
David Milliband has a unit in UK that strategizes CON party moves for PAPPU.
Is such a move by pappu even legal.
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why aren't wimmen folks revolting against nawaz shariff disgracing dehati aurats? what does he mean? the whole world is pakistaniyat?

that should have been said by modi! he missed it !.. or should I say, lost an oppty to rope in many wimmen state-of-minds!
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Its not so much the insecurity as it is the absence of a practical understanding of Karmphal. Practical as in actually done that successfully. While this affects the whole world and not just the Hindus, it is the Hindus who should be most ashamed of losing the actual implementation of it. Not too good to lose inheritance, except when the subject is a dunce.

That pic up there by vivek.rao ji - People are really very keen on their own ishta devata. The utter infantile infatuation put on display by Burkha Dutt, makes me laugh. How do BRF member mine these pics. Where are such funny pics hosted. Why am I the last one to contribute such funny stuff.
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Milliband & Raul Vinci are close. When the former was in India, Raul took him on one of his Dalit-tourism trips.

The following is what Miliband pontificated in India, a few months after 26/11
In his report, Mr Miliband wrote: "Although I understand the current difficulties, resolution of the dispute over Kashmir would help deny extremists in the region one of their main calls to arms and allow Pakistani authorities to focus more effectively on tackling the threat on their western borders."

It got worse when he went on to say in interviews that India needed to "incentivise Pakistan" by showing "some movement on Kashmir".

And then, to cap it, Lashkar e Toiba - the Kashmir-based group blamed for the Mumbai attacks - issued a statement saying they agreed with the Foreign Secretary's comments.

Mr Miliband had already astounded his hosts by insisting there was no need to extradite to India those arrested in Pakistan connection with the Mumbai attacks.

"Let justice run its course in Pakistan," he said.
Spit on your host after having dinner at their place. Very classy. Very British.
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what does this US stooge mean by "people like" ?

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Sushupti wrote:what does this US stooge mean by "people like" ?

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Any Hindu who won't just roll over & bend.
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