Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

[pankajs]

Pakistan family wants kin punished for 'desecrating Quran'

In an unusual case, the family of a 33-year-old man in Pakistan has sought "stern" punishment for him for committing blasphemy.
The alleged blasphemer, who has not been named by the police, was brought to a Karachi police station forcefully by his uncle and other family members who are adamant that he must be punished.

"He is accused of desecrating the Holy Quran, and family members claimed he had been involved in similar incidents earlier as well," a police officer at Taimuria police station said.

According to the family members, the accused, a labourer, committed the act at his home on Friday. They said he had committed such acts in the past also despite being mentally stable.

"He has insulted our religion and anyone doing that should be sternly dealt with," Qalandar Buksh, the complainant and the uncle of the accused, said.

Well .. I think the napaks are on the right track .. pretty soon it will be father against son and vice versa .. may their tribe multiply.

[Lilo]

Pakistan family wants kin punished for 'desecrating Quran'

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Well .. I think the napaks are on the right track .. pretty soon it will be father against son and vice versa .. may their tribe multiply.

Leon Uris in his book The Haj wrote of Arabs

"...before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother;me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world. And all of us against the infidel."

Pakis are just on their destined path to emulate the Bedouin fourfather's way of life.

[Anujan]

ISPR issued a statement that kayani is retiring on Nov 29. Doesn't mean he won't take up a civilian posting.

[RamaY]

ISPR issued a statement that kayani is retiring on Nov 29. Doesn't mean he won't take up a civilian posting.

You mean Kayani for president (POTP - President of Terrorist Pakistan)?

[Prem]

Lilo"]

Pakistan family wants kin punished for 'desecrating Quran'.ell .. I think the napaks are on the right track .. pretty soon it will be father against son and vice versa .. may their tribe multiply.Leon Uris in his book The Haj wrote of ArabsPakis are just on their destined path to emulate the Bedouin fourfather's way of life

This is great Khush Khabar from Pakistan. Trend needs to be encouraged with monetary reward and promise of paradise. Lets hope TTP make public announcement encouraging pious Paki peeple to report such incidents. The accused to be disqualified from getting share of inheritance from pious Muslim parents/ family.

[Prem]

http://www.dawn.com/news/1047801/voice-of-india
Voice of India
M.J. Akbar

Dr Singh seemed unaffected, either by this or by the hint that he might have become a bechara after Rahul Gandhi’s intemperate offensive against a decision taken by Ms Sonia Gandhi and Dr Singh. It says something about the political environment we live in that even a Congress heir believes he can best score some brownie points with the electorate only when he attacks a Congress government.
Conflict is too complex a dilemma. There are no easy prescriptions. But India and Pakistan have reached a point where even a common effort at diagnosis is not possible. Officially, Pakistan withdraws from any responsibility when it attributes the continuation of Pakistan’s war for Kashmir to “non-state actors”. It maintains, by this formulation, that the state has abandoned war as an option in the struggle for Kashmir.But the Indian prime minister never raised the question that India’s president, Pranab Mukherjee, asked during his trip to Belgium and Turkey: where do these “non-state actors” come from? As he put in a pithy phrase, they do not drop down from heaven. They thrive in Pakistani territory. They are never challenged while on the Pakistani side of the line. Is this help provided with permission from the Sharif government, or is it an independent operation run by the Pak armed forces?The reasonable assessment is that Sharif is helpless. He cannot confront his own army; and he will not risk antagonising those powerful vested interests who still believe that India can be bled to slow death. Sharif has made it obvious, by his inaction if not through words, that he has chosen the path of least resistance over Hafiz Saeed, head of the Lashkar-e-Taiba, who [allegedly] orchestrated the Mumbai terrorist attack and continues to nurture assaults against India.It is possible that given the horrendous resurgence of mass killings, whether of Christians in a Peshawar church or Muslims on a Peshawar street with a car bomb, or Shias across the country, cross-border terrorism in Kashmir might be at the bottom of his priorities.If Hafiz Saeed is a threat to India, then the Pakistan Taliban are a danger to the whole existing establishment in Pakistan. But if that is the truth, then the best course would be to keep the India-Pakistan dialogue on hold at least until both Delhi and Islamabad are in a position to discuss something concrete. The fudge that was offered as a meal in New York only looks more ludicrous when served with such solemn faces.Sharif and Singh are not fooling their citizens. The people are wiser than they think. But they are fooling themselves.Indian public opinion is nostalgic for Pranab Mukherjee, not least because Mukherjee understood the mood of street and village and gave voice to it. He is the prime minister they did not get, because Mrs Sonia Gandhi would not give him the job. The Congress will never acknowledge this, but privately its leaders are beginning to appreciate the perils of heading into a general election without Mukherjee’s counsel and articulation. Mukherjee is as far from a hawk as you are going to get in India, and if he has finessed the government’s wishy-washy language it is only because the Indian mood has hardened.
]Dr Singh will not be prime minister after 2014. Pranab Mukherjee will remain president till 2017. Perhaps there is enough time to arrange a chat between Sharif and Mukherjee.

[kish]

pakisatan's fight against polio-workers continue unabated. 6 killed & 12 injured, 4 of the 6 killed are 'allegedly' policemen

6 killed, 12 injured in bomb blast in Pakistan's Peshawar

At least six people including four policemen were killed and 12 others injured on Monday morning when a bomb blast hit Pakistan's northwestern provincial capital of Peshawar, local media and officials said.

According to Senior Superintendent of police Najib ur Rehman, the blast targeted a police squad who was guarding outside a dispensary where polio workers were collecting their vaccination material in the Badaber area in the outskirts of Peshawar, killing six people and injuring 12 others.

Police and rescue teams rushed to the site and shifted the bodies and injured to the Lady Reading Hospital in Peshawar.

Two of the killed people belonged to the local peace militia, who came to assist police personnel to provide security to the polio vaccination workers.

Chief executive of the hospital Arshad Javed said that nine of the injured were policemen and three of the injured were in critical condition.

[Lalmohan]

^^^ very soon, pakistan will have eradicated the scourge of polio (workers) for ever

[RCase]

^^^
Wouldn't that be the first Islamic state to have achieved that feat! I guess that will also lead to the first completely quarantined Islamic state in the world.
Adds to the list of other magnificent achievements of first place by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan!

[harbans]

I guess that will also lead to the first completely quarantined Islamic state in the world.

Oh no..are we not giving them Free visa's and welcome mats plus more? Our destiny is linked to Pakistan's. If Pakistan fails, we shall also endeavour to fail. If we succeed the proceeeds are to be given in largesse to the Paki.

[sum]

^^^ very soon, pakistan will have eradicated the scourge of polio (workers) for ever

[rajanb]

^^^ very soon, pakistan will have eradicated the scourge of polio (workers) for ever

This is verily a Guiness Book of World Record moment for Pakistan!

[Peregrine]

http://www.dawn.com/news/1047801/voice-of-india
Voice of India
M.J. Akbar

Dr Singh will not be prime minister after 2014. Pranab Mukherjee will remain president till 2017. Perhaps there is enough time to arrange a chat between Sharif and Mukherjee.

Jhujar Ji :

Mobashar Jawed "M.J." Akbar wants the Indian President Pranab Mukherji to Emulate - as per Pakistanis - the World's Greatest Constitutionalist, Democrat and Secularist i.e. M. A. Jinnah whose World's Greatest Constitutionalist Mantle was due to his being the Governor General i.e. Head of State (An Apolitical post) was also the de jure 1. President of the Pakistan Constitutional Assembly 2. Leader of the Muslim League and 3. Minister without Portfolio whereby he Attended and Chaired all Cabinet Meetings so that Jinnah was indeed the de facto Head of Government and Prime Minister Liaqat Ali, the de jure Head of Goverment, became the de facto "Servile Pataydar Peon".

I don't think this idea will work in India!

Cheers

[Peregrine]

^^^ very soon, pakistan will have eradicated the scourge of polio (workers) for ever

Explosion in Peshawar kills 6 police officers, injures 8

Lalmohan Ji :

It is true that Pakistan is on its way to the Total Eradication of the scourge of Polio Workers but this Pious Islamic Sharia Sanctioned act was part of the Programme for the Eradication of the Pious Islamic Members of Pakistan's Securiy Services.

That is the difference - Vive la différence!

Cheers

[anupmisra]

You mean Kayani for president?

Remember this NYT "star-warrish" article from 2008? A new hope!!? Man who would bring peace to the galaxy...er...bakistan?

a little-known, enigmatic Pakistani general has quietly raised hopes among American officials that he could emerge as a new force for stability in Pakistan

How's that stability thing working out for ya, porkies?

[anupmisra]

Kiyani's message of stability OR hope.

“It is time for others to carry forward the mission of making Pakistan a truly democratic, prosperous and peaceful country,”

Is that what Kiyani was trying to do for the past six years?

[Rahul M]

^^^ very soon, pakistan will have eradicated the scourge of polio (workers) for ever

[joygoswami]

^^^ very soon, pakistan will have eradicated the scourge of polio (workers) for ever

Inshallah, Pakhani State (Army) would soon achieve victory for polio workers. Operation Rahe-na-Jhaat would be over soon. Pakhani Army has won all its war, and it would win this one too.

[RamaY]

http://www.dawn.com/news/1047801/voice-of-india
Voice of India
M.J. Akbar

I think Sri MJA is fooling himself, for Indians are much wiser.

He says that Govt of Pakistan has nothing to discuss with India for the real power center is Non-State Military and it has no intention of taking responsibility for its action. In such a scenario what is the purpose of anyone from India participating in talks, be it a kutta-ka-bacha or MMS or Mukharjee?

There is no need to talk to Pakistan not now not in future. Ignore it, completely. Make sure Indian Army does its job without any nonsense from GoI.

[KLNMurthy]

http://www.dawn.com/news/1047801/voice-of-india
Voice of India
M.J. Akbar

Dr Singh seemed unaffected, either by this or by the hint that he might have become a bechara after Rahul Gandhi’s intemperate offensive against a decision taken by Ms Sonia Gandhi and Dr Singh. It says something about the political environment we live in that even a Congress heir believes he can best score some brownie points with the electorate only when he attacks a Congress government.
Conflict is too complex a dilemma. There are no easy prescriptions. But India and Pakistan have reached a point where even a common effort at diagnosis is not possible. Officially, Pakistan withdraws from any responsibility when it attributes the continuation of Pakistan’s war for Kashmir to “non-state actors”. It maintains, by this formulation, that the state has abandoned war as an option in the struggle for Kashmir.But the Indian prime minister never raised the question that India’s president, Pranab Mukherjee, asked during his trip to Belgium and Turkey: where do these “non-state actors” come from? As he put in a pithy phrase, they do not drop down from heaven. They thrive in Pakistani territory. They are never challenged while on the Pakistani side of the line. Is this help provided with permission from the Sharif government, or is it an independent operation run by the Pak armed forces?The reasonable assessment is that Sharif is helpless. He cannot confront his own army; and he will not risk antagonising those powerful vested interests who still believe that India can be bled to slow death. Sharif has made it obvious, by his inaction if not through words, that he has chosen the path of least resistance over Hafiz Saeed, head of the Lashkar-e-Taiba, who [allegedly] orchestrated the Mumbai terrorist attack and continues to nurture assaults against India.It is possible that given the horrendous resurgence of mass killings, whether of Christians in a Peshawar church or Muslims on a Peshawar street with a car bomb, or Shias across the country, cross-border terrorism in Kashmir might be at the bottom of his priorities.If Hafiz Saeed is a threat to India, then the Pakistan Taliban are a danger to the whole existing establishment in Pakistan. But if that is the truth, then the best course would be to keep the India-Pakistan dialogue on hold at least until both Delhi and Islamabad are in a position to discuss something concrete. The fudge that was offered as a meal in New York only looks more ludicrous when served with such solemn faces.Sharif and Singh are not fooling their citizens. The people are wiser than they think. But they are fooling themselves.Indian public opinion is nostalgic for Pranab Mukherjee, not least because Mukherjee understood the mood of street and village and gave voice to it. He is the prime minister they did not get, because Mrs Sonia Gandhi would not give him the job. The Congress will never acknowledge this, but privately its leaders are beginning to appreciate the perils of heading into a general election without Mukherjee’s counsel and articulation. Mukherjee is as far from a hawk as you are going to get in India, and if he has finessed the government’s wishy-washy language it is only because the Indian mood has hardened.
]Dr Singh will not be prime minister after 2014. Pranab Mukherjee will remain president till 2017. Perhaps there is enough time to arrange a chat between Sharif and Mukherjee.

Sensible words by MJA. I also suspect a tiny dose of healthy Bengali fellow-feeling. The suggestion of Pranab talking to TSP is rhetorical onlee.

[ramana]

MJA's suggestion for Indian President Mukherjee to talk to Paki PM Badmash is a non- starter and a violation of protocol.


Unless he is saying both are powerless?

[Gagan]

Article seems to suggest, that if the BJP comes to power, their dealings with La La land will be hard nosed and a hand of friendship will not be extended unconditionally as the congress is doing now. MJA seems to suggest that a Cong President in Pranab Mukherjee will still continue to have that soft corner for the Pakistanis and their Jehadi loving ways - talks inspite of terror.

I have heard MJA actually praising Modi so, won't say that MJA has an Anti BJP bias.

[kmkraoind]

Deconstructing the Pak bomb - The Hindu

[Peregrine]

Deconstructing the Pak bomb - The Hindu

kmkraoind Ji :

The Link to Hindu gives : The article you are looking for is no longer available in this website.

Do you have the full Article? If so please post in full.

World News Inc. only provides "The Hindu 2013-10-07: Not just the revelations by former intelligence contractor Edward Snowden tell us that the United States has recently stepped up surveillance of Pakistan’s nuclear activities. The London-based International Institute of Strategic Studies has reported that Pakistan’s tactical ‘battlefield’ nuclear weapons (Nasr) were threatening regional security inviting strong rebuttal from Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif as also from his Chief of Strategic Planning Division (SPD), Lt Gen Khalid Kidwai who has been at the helm for the last 15 years. The Chinese meanwhile continue to support Pakistan and...Link

The Link connects to the "Hindu" Article with similar results.

Cheers

[Prem]

I think Sri MJA is fooling himself, for Indians are much wiser.
He says that Govt of Pakistan has nothing to discuss with India for the real power center is Non-State Military and it has no intention of taking responsibility for its action. In such a scenario what is the purpose of anyone from India participating in talks, be it a kutta-ka-bacha or MMS or Mukharjee?
There is no need to talk to Pakistan not now not in future. Ignore it, completely. Make sure Indian Army does its job without any nonsense from GoI.

MJ knows the protocol yet he make the recommendation . He knows this is the last chance to protect the green stuff before Modi diplomatically demote Pashukistan to be dealt by the department of Animal Husbandry and expert Veterinary to split open the green spleen on Jihad Afeem. There has been sea change in Indian attitude in last few years and MJ sense the long term impact of this on India's near abroad by the sudden rise of Bharat Ke Betas.

[Prem]

Countering nuclear jihad in South Asia — AssKhaan Ali Maan
http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?pa ... 2013_pg3_6

The article states, “The availability of nuclear materials in black market, specifically in Pakistan’s tribal regions, has put the country’s nuclear weapons facilities under threat. There is concern that TTP, Punjabi Taliban or its allies may possibly attack Pakistan’s nuclear facilities by detonating a small, crude nuclear weapon...” Pakistan has been active in improving the safety and security of its nuclear weapons in recent years. Facing international pressure over safety of its nuclear weapons, Pakistan has said it has taken steps to augment their security as it shares the concern that ‘non-state actors or terrorists’ may acquire and use them. Pakistan shares concerns that “non-state actors or terrorists may acquire and potentially use nuclear materials and cause serious economic, political and psychological consequences.”We have demonstrated through our political commitment and actions the importance that we attach to nuclear security. We have engaged constructively inter alia with the Global Initiative to Combat Nuclear Terrorism and the Nuclear Security Summit processes. A positive development following The Washington Post report was the statement of the State Department spokesperson, Jen Psaki, who said: “The US is confident that the government of Pakistan is well aware of its responsibilities and has secured its nuclear arsenal accordingly. While there is room for improvement in the security of any country’s nuclear programmes, Pakistan has a professional and dedicated security force that fully understands the importance of nuclear security.”

Earlier, George Perkovich of the Carnegie Endowment of International Peace had declared that Pakistan’s nuclear weapons are the safest, most secure things in Pakistan.Mr Jalalzai is of the view that “Nuclear power plants, research reactors and uranium enrichment plants of the country may, at any time come under potential attack from the TTP...”This kind of current worry about Pakistan’s nuclear force stems from the aggressive advances of armed Taliban units. The official said, “Obviously, what’s going on enters into our thinking...We are watchful.” Pakistan felt compelled to respond publicly to those concerns by stating that the country’s atomic arsenal is beyond the grasp of Islamist militants. “We want to assure the world that the nuclear capability of Pakistan is under safe hands.”
International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) on April 25, 2013 declared the nuclear programme of Pakistan as safe and secure and appreciated the obvious dedication to safety and security of the regulators as well as operators. In fact, Pakistan has had an Action Plan in place to strengthen nuclear security since 2006, he added. Giving details he said this plan covers such items as Management of Radioactive Sources, Nuclear Security Emergency Coordination Centre (NuSECC), and Locating and Securing Orphan Radioactive Sources.
The writer argues, “After several incidents of terror attacks on Pakistan nuclear facilities (Wah, Kamra, Dera Ghazi Khan, Sargodha) it became clear that the TTP and other extremist groups can gain access to nuclear facilities with the help of their radicalised allies in the armed forces...” Meanwhile, Pakistan is the 10th largest contributor to the Nuclear Security Fund, contributing $ 1.16 million. This is an example of their strong leadership and commitment, as well as their serious approach to nuclear security in the course of implementing the action plan. T
The Taliban attack in August 2012 on the Pakistani air force base at Kamra, northwest of Islamabad, made headlines in the international media and renewed concerns about the security of Pakistan’s nuclear weapons. Despite all this, the Kamra base does not have nuclear weapons. A Pakistani government spokesman denied that any nuclear weapons were stored at the base, and US military and diplomatic officials ruled out the possibility that the attack on the base posed any threat to nuclear weapons.The author wrote, “Recent events in Pakistan and its war on terror, extrajudicial killings in Swat Valley and the killings of Pashtuns in Waziristan and FATA regions has seriously raised questions that now trained terrorists and extremist elements or their colleagues within the army may well resort to nuclear, biological, radiological or chemical weapons...” This is just a conspiracy theory hatched against Pakistan’s position on chemical and biological weapons. The custodians of the programme had established a Security Division, which today has more than 20,000 trained personnel to guard the arsenal. These trained soldiers are far superior to the terrorists. They are capable of guarding both nuclear weapons and sensitive nuclear facilities from the terrorist syndicate’s sabotage attempts and external powers’ incursions into the nuclear weapons locations. Our nuclear security regime is anchored in the principle of multilayered defence for the entire spectrum of any nuclear security threat — insider, outsider, and cyber threats — and is guided by the concept of the Five Ds, that is to deter, detect, delay, defend, and destroy.Much has been written on the subject that the Pakistani military controls the nuclear weapons and has instituted a range of measures to tighten controls over the nuclear weapons complex. According to a wide variety of South Asian specialists, the military is the least corrupt and most professional part of Pakistani society. So, it is necessary to understand that neither terrorist networks nor any external power is capable of seizing its nuclear weapons.

[member_22872]

Pl try this : Deconstructing the Pak bomb

A rare insider’s narrative on the world’s fastest growing nuclear complex
Not just the revelations by former intelligence contractor Edward Snowden tell us that the United States has recently stepped up surveillance of Pakistan’s nuclear activities. The London-based International Institute of Strategic Studies has reported that Pakistan’s tactical ‘battlefield’ nuclear weapons (Nasr) were threatening regional security inviting strong rebuttal from Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif as also from his Chief of Strategic Planning Division (SPD), Lt Gen Khalid Kidwai who has been at the helm for the last 15 years.

The Chinese meanwhile continue to support Pakistan and recently signed a $9.6 billion deal to build two new 1100 MWe ACP1000 units in the outskirts of Pakistan’s largest city Karachi. All this should make the international community worried about Pakistan’s nuclear trajectories.

Eating Grass not only elucidates how Pakistan’s nuclear programme repeatedly survived its economy coming to a grind following sanctions and censure from sheriffs of non-proliferation, it also presents one of the most reliable insider’s narratives making it a must read. Having spent several years at the very core of Pakistan’s nuclear establishment, Feroz Khan demonstrates a thorough understanding on both its external linkages as also its minute intricacies of multiple versions and visions guiding the Pakistani elites’ passions to develop nukes to seek deterrence and parity against New Delhi.

Bhutto’s imprint

From the late 1950s, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto stands out as the strongest proponent of nuclear technologies. His obsession is further reinforced by the 1965 war, bifurcation of Pakistan in 1971 and India’s nuclear tests of 1974. On December 20, 1971, as President Yahya Khan steps down, Bhutto becomes the first civilian Chief Marshal Law Administrator.

As first thing, he calls a meeting of Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission (PAEC) symbolising how the “bomb lobby was now in power.” A huge gathering of scientists is called at Multan on January 20, 1972 where Bhutto pronounces his famous words “we will make an atomic bomb even if we have to eat grass” and replaces the 12-year aristocrat PAEC Chairman I. H. Usmani with a cosmopolitan IAEA staffer, Munir Ahmed Khan.

Bhutto immediately embarks on a tour of the Muslim world that takes him to Iran, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Turkey, Syria, Morocco, Egypt, Algeria, Tunisia and Libya with the last one agreeing to extend financial assistance of $500 million. This is where Bhutto’s idea of ‘Islamic bomb’ gets refined and proves so potent.

On return, Bhutto instructs his finance minister Mubashir Hasan to “abolish all the several committees dealing with Atomic Energy in various Ministries. You give [Munir] the money as he puts in a request.” Libya later diverts 450 tons of low enriched uranium, acquired from Niger, to Pakistan.

Bhutto was “very annoyed” at India’s nuclear tests in May 1974. He pushes PAEC to begin work on Chagai Hills test site in September 1974 when Pakistan was nowhere near producing its first atomic device. Even the first of their 24 cold tests in Kirana hills — with natural uranium — were to begin from March 1983.

Bhutto was pained to see his friend Henry Kissinger visit India in October 1974 and promise to continue to supply fuel for General Electric reactors at Tarapore. Pakistan has had this persisting sentiment that while India repeatedly breached non-proliferation norms the West always suspected and punished Pakistan. Not just that, sooner or later India gets accommodated. This is what pushes Pakistan to explore indigenisation, alternative partners as also grey markets which makes Pakistan’s nuclear programme so unique.

A Q Khan network

The enduring partnership with European companies, China and North Korea as also the rise of the A Q Khan network across Europe and Asia are presented as natural outcomes of Pakistan’s alienation. Pakistani leaders often suspected the U.S. or Israel, even India of planning pre-emptive strikes on their nuclear sites.

Secondly, starting from early 1990s, the control of Pakistan’s nuclear establishment shifted from the President’s office (with Ghulam Ishaq Khan being the last) to Army Chiefs starting with Gen Mirza Aslam Beg, with the latter showing “almost blind faith in A Q Khan’s messianic ability” to procure whatever was needed.

Driven by pure profit motive, European companies facilitated Pakistan’s access through grey markets. At one point in the 1980s, over 70 German companies were conducting nuclear-related business with Pakistan. Apart from other enabling and handing auxiliary technologies, China provided Pakistan with 5 tons of Uranium hexafluoride or UF6 gas, 40 tonnes of heavy water, 50 kg of HEU, bomb design of its fourth test and later 5,000 ring magnets as also various types of missiles and missile technologies. A Q Khan gave names like Ghauri I & II to North Korean Nodongs and Taipodong as also names like Shaheen, Ghaznavi and Babur to China’s M-11 and M-9 and Dong Feng-10 missiles. Access to Western technologies was the solitary incentive for China and North Korea. Detonation of six nuclear devices on May 28, 1998 did slow down and transform but has not ended these partnerships.

Internal threat

SPD has been Pakistan’s most powerful new creation after its Inter-Services Intelligence. The author shows how SPD “has a firm hold of Pakistan’s nuclear organisation and policy.” Its Security Division organises physical security of all nuclear assets through (a) laboratories’ own set of procedures, (b) 10,000 plus paramilitary forces, (c) access to ISI intelligence in addition to its own 10,000 plus intelligence personnel snooping and implementing personal reliability of scientists.

By SPD’s own admission, the most formidable threat to nuclear assets no longer comes from external sources like U.S., Israel or India but from internal sectarian strife.

About 150-strong SPD Secretariat provides the critical link between the apex National Security Council and the operational Strategic Force Commands of the three Services. The fact that one man, Lt. Gen Khalid Kidwai, has been in control of SPD since June 1998 — even though he retired from active service in October 2007 — makes it very noteworthy. It is the SPD that had once evolved Pakistan’s 10-point nuclear doctrine for internal use and Gen Kidwai’s ‘four thresholds’ continue to define Pakistan’s nuclear doctrine.

These include (a) space threshold i.e. India conquering a large part of territory, (b) military threshold i.e. India destroying a large part of its forces, (c) economic strangling and (d) political destabilisation through internal subversion. Pakistanis believe that like India they also have a doctrine of No-First Use and minimum deterrence. Also like India, their nuclear posture does not imply hair-trigger alert and weapons are kept in disassembled form, their components stored separately, at dispersed sites. Pakistan’s nuclear force structures remain subject to technical and financial constraints and integrated with conventional forces to raise the threshold for a nuclear strike.

The projections by the author clearly defy most global estimates of Pakistan’s fastest growing nuclear complex and missiles. These remain driven by Pakistan’s misplaced quest for parity with India and given its internal situation this cocktail of terrorism and nuclear stockpiles makes President Obama’s Nuclear Security Summits describe nuclear terrorism the greatest global threat for 21 century.

[ramana]

What new info did that Hindu article bring? Looks like a regurgitation of many BRF threads on Paki Nukes.

venug, Who is the author?

[Anujan]

Pakis are celebrating and going wah wah we are fantastic on ..... Kayani announcing that he will retire.

[Gagan]

What is this Dong Feng 10 = Babur missile?
There is no Dong Feng 10 cruise missile.

[Gagan]

Kayani is retiring because he has created a royal mess in Pakistan.
Starting from when he was ISI chief, his incompetence, his hatered for India and the US, his cunningness has landed Pakistan in the mess it currently in.
After becoming army chief, he didn't dare to launch a coup because Pakistan was burning in flames from sectarian murders, bankruptcy, and massa bearing down on their necks and holding the economic noose very tight.
He did indulge in the most vicious terrorism against India, the US forces in Afghanistan and then some beyond.

He knows that Pakistan's situation is untenable, that any leader at the helm is only going to get brickbats from all and sundry, and the Jehadis will turn inwards with even more increasing vigour.

Now is the apt time to retire and move out of Pakistan, and perhaps never return. After the upcoming stint, he can easily become an arms agent and take a comfortable commission on all arms sales to Pakistan from the west.

[Anindya]

Please, please....pretty please.

India asks Pakistan to maintain sanctity of LoC

[Prem]

Wide consultations likely: PM to fill top army posts on same day

Ganja is afraid , very afraid: Bahut Dar Gya Miyan

SLAMABAD:
A day after army chief General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani ruled out a longer tenure for himself, the Prime Minister House announced that the new Chief of Army Staff and the Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee would be named simultaneously following intense consultations.As rumours swirled over the possible successors of Gen Kayani and Gen Khalid Shameem Wynne, the PM House spokesman said in a statement on Monday that the prime minister has decided to announce the appointments at the same time after holding consultations.“Expectations regarding the announcement of the successors of the outgoing CJSC who retired on Monday and the army chief whose tenure ends on November 29 are important issues but need comprehensive considerations.”“Every decision will be taken in the country’s supreme interest,” the premier was quoted as saying.
“Despite speculations and rumours, the government will keep its focus on the issues of national interest while appointing the successors.”According to officials at the PM House, one option is on the table: Gen Kayani is retained as CJCSC and the senior-most general is appointed as COAS. But there is strong opposition to this option, which is why the prime minister has decided to take more time to consult.Senior leaders of the ruling Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz have advised the prime minister that even though Gen Kayani carries a distinctive experience of strategic counterterrorism, another extension for him is not good for the country as he has already served for six consecutive years.”

[anupmisra]

Please, please....pretty please.

India asks Pakistan to maintain sanctity of LoC

Sounds like the 30-40 terrorists have managed to evade the "encirclement" after 2 weeks of fighting.

[arun]

Images of dead Mohammadden Terrorists who were killed by the Indian Army when infiltrating into India from the Islamic Republic of Pakistan in the Keran sector of Jammu & Kashmir.

Pictures / Photographs:

6 Photos

Video and article:

NDTV exclusive: First images of terrorists killed at LoC in Keran

[arun]

Our former Foreign Secretary Kanwal Sibal calls on the Islamic Republic of Pakistan “to establish a five-kilometre deep anti-infiltration grid on its side to match the Indian disposition so that any hostile movement within this zone is prevented. It should share information on attempts to cross the LoC culled from intercepts”.

Seems a bit naïve to think that the Uniformed Jihadi’s of the Military of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan will actually protect against the depredations of their religious bedfellows, the Un-Uniformed Jihadi’s, as any information shared on troop dispositions by India is most likely going to be used Uniformed Jihadi’s to help infiltrating Un-Uniformed Jihadi’s avoid India Army patrols.:

Peace talks are pointless until Pakistan takes responsibility for terrorists from its soil

[Philip]

The current incursions and attacks along the LOC seem to be Gen.Kill-any's (the "Vulture") farewell gift to India before he relinquishes his sh*t coloured uniform for the sherwani of ambassadorship,his reward for being a good and faithful servant to the anti-Indian doctrine of Pakiland.Hints are that he will go to the US,from where he will assist the US in redrawing the map of Afghanistan in Pak's favour without it becoming yet again the nerve centre of Al Q.Who will succeed the vulture is anybody's guess.There were earlier hints about him remaining as a powerful CDS,but changes are in the air and what the good general is showing to his audience in the Paki establishment that he can "take on India" a la Gen.Mush-a-rat the "Bandicoot".This is to preserve his secret ambition of one day becoming Pak's president either through the ballot as a fitting candidate or through the time tested Paki way,the bullet where the army will propel him into the throne.

Sibal was perhaps being genuine in his demand for a sanitised zone on the border/LOC as a means of Pak establishing trust with India.However,judging from the histrionics of the Paki puppets on Arnab's daily "puppet show" on Times Now,we are poles apart.Last evening,one (un)worthy ex-tribesman actually admitted that if we did not give in on Kashmir,the terror attacks along the LOC and in J&K would continue! Therefore,the Paki strategy of using terror as blackmail is an avowed policy of the state.Unfortunately quislings like our dear mendicant and his u(n)worthies at the helm of India's affairs,shamelessly grovel at the feet of the Pakis for the crumbs of a pat on the backside from Uncle Sam! The sordid and failed attempts at the cover up of the Paki advance into Indian territory is nauseating.OIne cannot wait for "dustbin day",when the garbage in charge will be unceremoniously dumped into history's wasteland.

[Mahesh_R]

Sounds like the 30-40 terrorists have managed to evade the "encirclement" after 2 weeks of fighting.

Guru's..I am confused on the below
1) why can't we use aerial surveillance (remotely controlled nishant or similar ) to check the pigs..though its a dense forest it will create panic and could give us their positions
2) how could they drag the dead bodies back dodging our soldiers who are more than twice their numbers..i hear the same news in case with naxals but naxals have the advantage of known terrain which is not true in case of this pigs..
3) it concerns me that after 15 days of intense search they manged to dodge us ..leaving us with only material proof ..

[member_22872]

ramana garu, I apologize, the author is Sawaran Singh (Professor for Diplomacy & Disarmament, Jawaharlal Nehru University)
It's a review of the book "Eating grass - Making of the Pakistani Bomb" by Hassan Khan

[kmkraoind]

‘The terrorists can’t be Muslims’ - Tribune

When asked, a number of my students usually claim that these terrorists cannot be Muslims. When asked why, they argue that ‘Muslims cannot kill Muslims’. Lest this article become a history lecture, it should suffice to note that this is hardly the first time Muslims have killed Muslims in a large number. There have been numerous incidents of Muslims killing Muslims and even in our own history, the Ghorids killed the Ghaznavids, the Mughals killed the Pathans, the Mughals killed one another and various Muslim princes fought against one another — most notably, the Nizam of Hyderabad repeatedly fought against Tipu Sultan. An overwhelming majority of these incidents took place where there was absolutely no non-Muslim interference and it was simply warfare for power, lust, etc. Therefore, Muslims have killed Muslims in the past and there is no reason why this phenomenon should not be present now.

Undoubtedly, citizens of other countries, and people from other religions, can and do carry out attacks against Pakistan, but assuming that ‘all’ terrorist attacks in Pakistan are carried out by non-Muslims is ludicrous, in the least. So, obviously, Indians, Americans and Israelis feature prominently as the culprits, and soon Martians might even make an appearance in the minds of these sceptics.

So, for a liberal Pakistani, the Taliban are not Muslim and for the Taliban, the liberal Pakistani is not a Muslim — what difference is there between these two approaches? Of course, those who criticise the Taliban take a more holistic view of religion and point out its peaceful elements, yet, completely rejecting those who do not agree with this version as ‘Muslim’ is harmful.

Is this a real realization or some form of Taqiya (for Kenadian Viza).