Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

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Most doctors who are usually bull cuttled are Shia. There is a long running massacre of Shia intellectuals: Doctors, teachers, lawyers. Ofcourse doctor or not Christians and Hindus are killed in general.
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Decoding LoC tensions

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Whilst our respective military men appear able to overcome their differences to the point at which they can be in the same room together, the civilians are having a harder time of it, particularly on the Indian side. Despite his governments’ decidedly colourless performance thus far, Nawaz Sharif has from the outset been clear that he is committed to reviving the peace process with India.The issues — there are many — are not only about territory and history; they are about the here and now, the realities of a need to trade, be it in commodities or electricity, to manage burgeoning water disputes and agree to a common agenda for mutual cooperation and prosperity. But New Delhi is not at a point where those positive triggers can be pulled and the negative triggers being pulled on the LoC have a direct bearing on the quality or otherwise of whatever the diplomats are able to piece together. Most of the trigger-pulling seems to emanate from the Indian side and Pakistan has exercised a wise restraint in its response. Neither side wants a war, yet a mutually agreed lasting peace still seems distant. But face-to-face military meetings are a step in the right direction.
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There was an editorial in Dawn lamenting about how IA has taken over policy making in J&K and how civilians are getting overruled by IA and so on.

Coming from Pakistan, it is funny.
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US-India can't stop funding for JuD : Saeed - Meena Menon, The Hindu
He said his organisation did not take money from the Pakistan government. “Our entire funding is from the people and they trust us — they believe in our work — our organisation is registered with the government and the accounts are audited regularly,” he said.
How come ? Then, where do all those millions of rupees go that Shahbaz Sharif diligently allocates in every budget ?
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Peregrine wrote:FY 13 : July – June US$ 803 Million.
Peregrine ji, it is actually 8.03 Billion USD. There is an inexplicable kafir-type mistake somewhere. That is why Berelvis, Ahmedis, Shi'as, Hindus, Sikhs, Christians and Buddhists must be removed from Pakistan.

Let me explain.

About a decade back, we had a lively discussion here on the logic employed by the Pakistanis to derive their number. At that time, Musharraf said the Pakistanis spoke much better English and India was about to be busted by Pakistan within a matter of two years. May be, Colin Powell said something about 'something else being better' and Musharraf mistook his twang. We may not know. Anyway, the Pakistani logic went something like this. First, you have to add imports and exports to arrive at a total and then multiply it by some x (I thought it was 10) because for every dollar repatriated to Pakistan, 'x' dollars were said to be retained abroad. There were some other riders too, which I can't recall now.
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Missing Kashmiris linked to Al-Qaeda drone project - Meena Menon, The Hindu
The Islamabad police have said that Irtiyaz and Dr. Mujahid Gilani, who escaped during a raid last month on their home on the outskirts of the city, are linked to al-Qaeda. A cousin of theirs, teenaged Shoaib Andrabi, is in judicial custody till October 21.

A senior police official who did not wish to be named told The Hindu on Monday that the Gilanis’ link to al-Qaeda and that they were using their house to test spy planes were now part of the official record. He said the police were still looking for the two Gilani brothers and others who could be involved in the case. There was no mention of the two women who went missing from the house after the police raid at Gilani Manzil around 1 a.m. on September 7.

All three men in question are nephews of Syed Asiya Andrabi, founder-chairperson of Dukhtaraan-e-Millat, the all-women Kashmiri Islamist separatist group. Shoaib is the first son of Asiya Andrabi’s brother Zia-ul-Haq Andrabi. Irtiyaz, an aeronautical engineer, is Asiya Andrabi’s sister Rehana’s son. He and his younger brother Mujahid Gilani, a paediatric surgeon, lived in the house. Dr. Mujahid had a practice in the neighbourhood market. Their elder brother, Zulqarnain, a captain in the Pakistan Army, was an occasional visitor at Gilani Manzil.

While Shoaib Andrabi was arrested, Irtiyaz Un Nabi Gilani alias Sarfi fired at the police while running away, according to the first information report. A large drum filled with explosives and arms was found buried on the premises. The police had then said there was evidence of work on spy planes but recently confirmed a “drone” project. The drones were to be used on high-security targets, according to a report in The News .

The plot has since thickened with the arrest of a Hammad Adil and another suspect in the case of a huge arms cache found in the Bhara Kahu area of Islamabad and for several other high-profile crimes including the killing of public prosecutor Chaudhry Iftikhar and Shahbaz Bhatti. Police are on the lookout for Tanveer, an al-Qaeda operative allegedly behind a series of killings and blasts and who is suspected to have links with the Gilanis. Related incidents including an attempted suicide bomb attack on a mosque in Bhara Kahu and a huge cache of explosives being found in a car in the same area.
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The Jamaat-ud-Dawa, the front for terror outfit Lashkar-e-Tayiba, has come up with yet another innovative way to raise funds for terror activities.

According to a media report, JuD volunteers have been collecting the skins of the numerous animals slaughtered before Eid al-Adha and eventually selling them.

In Pakistan, 5 million sheep and 1 million cows have been slaughtered ahead of Eid al-Adha. The volunteers of the JuD have launched a massive drive to collect the hide of the slaughtered animals.

The JuD sends children and young men, who go door-to-door to collect the skin and bring it to an auction. While the cow hide is sold at $50, the sheep skin is sold for $7. This money is pocketed directly by the JuD and reportedly pumped into the activities of the LeT.

Ghulam Hasan Naiku, an operative of the Hizbul Mujahideen, has talked at length about the skin trade that goes on between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

“We had initiated a similar progamme in Kashmir Valley and had even begun to smuggle the skin to Pakistan, where it was sold to the leather industry,” said Naiku.

The terror outfits came up with the idea of trading skin after the Pakistan government was forced to crack down on drug trade -- the main source of funding for terror strikes -- due to international pressure.

Naiku told interrogators that even after paying off volunteers, the Lashkar still made a whopping profit of $8,000,00.

Indian security agencies admit that skin trade is a common practice in India too, though it does not happen at the scale at which it does in Pakistan.

“We had told police from various states to keep a close tab on those who collect the skin of the sacrificed animals. There are procedures that need to be followed while trading in animal skin, otherwise they money can fall into the wrong hands,” said the officer.

Intelligence officials point out that terror groups have tried a number of things to raise funds, including poaching endangered animals and selling their skin.

These poachers often form a nexus with the underworld to help these terror groups. This was a major source of funds but soon became a risky proposition due to stringent anti-poaching rules.

Collecting the skin of sacrificed animals and auctioning them through a legitimate channel seemed to be a safer way to raise funds for terror activities.
http://www.rediff.com/news/report/terro ... 131015.htm
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Musharraf denies any role in Lal Masjid operation
The former president told the JIT that the operation had been ordered by the then elected government and he had nothing to do with it, Dawn daily reported quoting sources.

"I was wrongly implicated. I did not issue any written order regarding the operation," Musharraf was quoted as saying by the sources.

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Meanwhile, a Pakistani lawyer has filed a petition in the Islamabad High Court seeking action against the former president under the controversial blasphemy law for allegedly desecrating religious books during the Lal Masjid operation.

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The petition said the objective of the operation was "not only to commit murders of religious scholars, preachers and teachers but also to destroy the mission of the preaching of Islam, which prima facie was tantamount to the commission of the offence of blasphemy."

Senior lawyer Ahmed Raza Kasuri told Dawn that the Lal Masjid operation was a state action and it couldn't be challenged in any court.

He said blaming the former army chief for the operation and levelling blasphemy allegations against him would be fatal for the national security.

"These people are giving a wrong message to the army by harassing the former military chief," he claimed.
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krishnan wrote:
The Jamaat-ud-Dawa, the front for terror outfit Lashkar-e-Tayiba, has come up with yet another innovative way to raise funds for terror activities.
http://www.rediff.com/news/report/terro ... 131015.htm
There is nothing new. LeT have been doing this for a decade that I know of.
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SSridhar wrote:
Peregrine wrote:FY 13 : July – June US$ 803 Million.
Peregrine ji, it is actually 8.03 Billion USD. There is an inexplicable kafir-type mistake somewhere. That is why Berelvis, Ahmedis, Shi'as, Hindus, Sikhs, Christians and Buddhists must be removed from Pakistan.

Let me explain.

About a decade back, we had a lively discussion here on the logic employed by the Pakistanis to derive their number. At that time, Musharraf said the Pakistanis spoke much better English and India was about to be busted by Pakistan within a matter of two years. May be, Colin Powell said something about 'something else being better' and Musharraf mistook his twang. We may not know. Anyway, the Pakistani logic went something like this. First, you have to add imports and exports to arrive at a total and then multiply it by some x (I thought it was 10) because for every dollar repatriated to Pakistan, 'x' dollars were said to be retained abroad. There were some other riders too, which I can't recall now.
SSridhar Ji :

With due respect your are crediting the Inhabitants of the Home of the Terrorists with too much Intelligence. I am of the opinion that they look at the Indian IT Export Figures and then check with their government-Army-ISI etc. and get the Figures for International Terrorism by the Pakistani Non-State Actors. Then they use these figure for the Home of the Terrorists' Information Technology Exports.

After all the Initials are the same.

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krishnan wrote:

The Jamaat-ud-Dawa, the front for terror outfit Lashkar-e-Tayiba, has come up with yet another innovative way to raise funds for terror activities.

According to a media report, JuD volunteers have been collecting the skins of the numerous animals slaughtered before Eid al-Adha and eventually selling them.

In Pakistan, 5 million sheep and 1 million cows have been slaughtered ahead of Eid al-Adha. The volunteers of the JuD have launched a massive drive to collect the hide of the slaughtered animals.

The JuD sends children and young men, who go door-to-door to collect the skin and bring it to an auction. While the cow hide is sold at $50, the sheep skin is sold for $7. This money is pocketed directly by the JuD and reportedly pumped into the activities of the LeT.

Naiku told interrogators that even after paying off volunteers, the Lashkar still made a whopping profit of $8,000,00.


http://www.rediff.com/news/report/terro ... 131015.htm
krishnan Ji :

The Figures are US$ 50 Million for Cow Hides and US$ 35 Million for the Sheep Hides. Thus the Figure of $8,000,00 (Eight Hundred Thousand) may be around US$ 80 Million!

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Plunder of Saindak's copper & gold - Op-ed, DT
Saindak copper and gold mine is included in the Baloch mineral resources that mark Balochistan as a rich land. Despite existence of gold and copper of great value, the Baloch nation is unable to benefit from it because the Chinese exploitation of Baloch resources is continued with great assistance of the State and establishment. The Saindak production or the so-called Baloch share has never been utilised for the development of the Baloch and Balochistan.

The Saindak Copper and Gold mine is located in the Chagi district of Balochistan. Discovery of copper deposits at Saindak was made in the 1970s in collaboration with a Chinese engineering firm and the feasibility study of the Saindak project started in 1975. The Saindak mine was estimated to have ore reserves of 412 million tones, containing on average 0.5 gram of gold per ton and 1.5 grams of silver per ton. According to official estimates, the project has the capacity to produce 15,800 ton of blister copper annually, containing 1.5 ton of gold and 2.8 ton of silver.

In 1995, production at the Saindak copper and gold mine started with the funding of the government of Pakistan. The Saindak Copper-Gold Project was set up by Saindak Metals Ltd, a company owned by Pakistan, by the end of 1995, at the cost of 13.5 billion rupees. In the initial trial months, the monthly production rate was 1,700 tons of copper, 6,000 ounces of gold and 12,000 ounces of silver. At first, the copper was to be refined in China, the technical partner in the project, but then it was suggested that a refinery be built at Saindak. However, even after a decade it has not been done.

The Benazir Bhutto government closed down the project late in 1995, citing the reason as being the lack of funds to continue the project and the low price of copper in the international market. The Nawaz Sharif government did not take interest in re-starting the project. In addition, it is said that the State bureaucracy opposed the Saindak project on the issue of building the necessary infrastructure, including the RCD Highway section from Dalbandin to Saindak, taking the rail to Saindak from Taftan and other facilities. It also remained a big shock for the people of Balochistan when for the first time a number of Baloch people were employed. It should be noted that the above-mentioned development was made merely for the Chinese interest and benefit.

The government of Pakistan in 2002 invited foreign investors to arrange funding for the project and awarded the mining project to the Metallurgical Corporation of China (MCC) Ltd under a 10-year lease due to expire in October 2012. MCC agreed to pay an annual rent of $500,000 for the mine to the government of Pakistan. The distribution of profits was according to a formula beyond anyone’s understanding. The Chinese company took 75 percent, the federal government 24, and only one percent of the revenue was given to the Balochistan government.

In short, the Saindak Copper-Gold Project (SCGP) is a copper mining project that has been of no use or benefit for the Baloch people. The initial operational agreement between MCC and government of Pakistan was for 10 years up to October 15, 2012, which was extended for a period of five years. MCC is running this project through its subsidiary MRDL (MCC Resources Development Company Pvt Limited) registered with Securities and Exchange Commission of Pakistan.

Unfortunately, there is no detailed examination of minerals from any international laboratory with the view to know the exact ratio of copper and gold in the minerals being extracted from the Saindak mines and there is exact estimate of the costly ores of copper and gold being extracted by the Chinese company. China seems to have been given a free hand to exploit the Baloch resources. The minerals valuing billions of dollars are being swindled since the Chinese company invested only 23 million dollars and, in return, it holds the entire resources of the Saindak project, with no independent monitoring of the project.

The agreement and handing over of the Saindak project has always been against the will of the Baloch people; even the so-called governments have not been consulted, as in 2012, the federal cabinet approved a five-year extension in the lease of the Saindak project, which will end in 2017.

The company claims to have paid 13.4 million dollars as the presumption tax and a six-million dollar surcharge between the period of 2002 to 2012. It also claims a provision of jobs to 1,600 local people in mining and running the plant. The company says that it is upgrading schools and health services and providing scholarships to students of the area; however, the claims go against the reality. According to the local people, the project area is a no-go area for the Baloch people and the people employed in the project belong to the other provinces or are non-Baloch, meaning the presence of Baloch in the project is equal to none. The people in the surrounding areas of the village and district say that there is no development in any sector of life initiated by the Chinese company. The district officials of Chagi confirm that no money from this project has been utilised for the development of the district.

Ransacking of the Saindak copper and gold proves that the federation is only interested to exploit Baloch resources with the help of China. This project could have brought a great economic change in the conditions of the entire Balochistan, but it did not even develop the nearby villages and district since it became operational.

The enormous pillage of copper and gold from the land of Balochistan by China is not justified, as there is no return in the shape of development or funds. However, the resistance movement in Balochistan and the political struggle justifies that the Baloch movement for their rights and ownership of land is right and on the basis of realism. Because the Saindak project is only a single example and we can find numbers of instances in which the Baloch people are underappreciated and Baloch resources are robbed from both ends, particularly by China.
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Good work pakis. Lure overseas pakis to come and buy property in pakisatan, swindle their money and kill them. Way to go.

Pakistan police find body of missing beauty queen
A model and beauty queen from Singapore who went missing in Pakistan has been found dead in a ditch on the edge of Islamabad, police said on Tuesday.

Fehmina Chaudhry, 27, a Singapore-based model originally from the Pakistani port city of Karachi, went missing last Thursday while visiting Islamabad to buy property, police said.

"Police arrested the real estate broker and after interrogation, he told officers that he had murdered the model and dumped her body in a stream at the outskirts of the city," Islamabad police spokesman Muhammad Naeem told AFP.

Her promoter in Pakistan, Asif Hashmi confirmed Chaudhry's death, and said she was married with a son and a daughter.

"She was a dedicated philanthropist and she was planning to set up a fashion school in Pakistan," Hashmi said, adding that she had won several beauty contests.

The officer leading the investigation, Yasir Afridi, said Chaudhry's mother had contacted her for the last time on the evening of October 10, after which she received a text message saying her daughter had been kidnapped.

"She used to visit Pakistan often to see her mother and was staying at a private hotel in Islamabad where she came to buy real estate for her mother," Yasir said.
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Paki state machinery seems intent on ignoring concerns of Baloch people who are much more self respecting then pakis. China digging out resources with convenience of pakis is a situation that shows plight of minorities in peacelands.

Something similar is done in Afghanistan by paki proxy Taliban giving cover while locals get to be bystanders.

The 5-star circuit of chattering dilli mobs are also too busy in little secular games with pakis at public cost. This is not new but going on for decades.
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SSridhar wrote: http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp ... 235574.ece
The plot has since thickened with the arrest of a Hammad Adil and another suspect in the case of a huge arms cache found in the Bhara Kahu area of Islamabad and for several other high-profile crimes including the killing of public prosecutor Chaudhry Iftikhar and Shahbaz Bhatti. Police are on the lookout for Tanveer, an al-Qaeda operative allegedly behind a series of killings and blasts and who is suspected to have links with the Gilanis. Related incidents including an attempted suicide bomb attack on a mosque in Bhara Kahu and a huge cache of explosives being found in a car in the same area.
His name is Chaudhry Zulfiqar and not Chaudhry Iftikhar. Chaudhry Zulfiqar was on two high profile cases: BB's murder and Mumbai attacks. He used to get death threats for both. He was shot dead in May of this year. Ofcourse, no group claimed responsibility and the case is unsolved and closed. His son and relatives hinted that he was getting death threats from LeT.

http://www.dnaindia.com/world/1830100/r ... -shot-dead
A senior prosecutor handling the 26/11 Mumbai attack case and Benazir Bhutto assassination case was shot and killed by unidentified gunmen in the Pakistani capital today, police said.

Gunmen riding a motorcycle fired at the car of Federal Investigation Agency prosecutor Chaudhry Zulfiqar Ali in the busy commercial area of Karachi Company at 7.30am.

Ali, who was driving, was hit by several bullets and lost control of the car. The vehicle hit a woman crossing the road and she too died later in hospital.
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Anujan, Most likely same folks who finished off Saleem Shabaz took care of Chaudhry Zulfiqar.
LeT interests are not so varied as BB and Mumbai. Its only India related.
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This Eid, sacrificial animals in Pakistan can cost more than a car
This year, the average price of a "qurbani" or sacrificial animal begins from 20,000 Pakistani rupees onwards and goes up to a princely sum of Rs 16 lakh - an amount that has left several appalled, considering a brand new car in Pakistan will cost only about Rs 7 lakh.
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So they should scarifice two cars and have a party with the left over funds!!!

See goat, cattle etc are beasts of burden.

Abu sacrificed the lamb (bhakri) as it was an essential part of his eco-system: future transport. So same way they should pack a couple of brand new cars and sacrifice them on the nearest TSPA camp.
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No, the fear is that they'll start sacrificing Hindus and Christians - after all, its already "effectively" legal to kill, rape, blow-up and steal body-parts from Hindus and Christians in Pakistan.
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Fakir To Amir

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b]‘Pakistan won’t tolerate any foreign intervention’[/b]
* Says India’s ‘policeman’ role in region not acceptable
ISLAMABAD: The top political and military leadership on Tuesday took serious note of incidents of terrorism in the country as well as aid and funding by the neighbouring India and Afghanistan to subversive elements in Pakistan, saying that any foreign intervention in Pakistan’s affairs would not be tolerated.A high-level meeting was held in the capital with Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif in the chair. The meeting was attended by Adviser to the Prime Minister on National Security and Foreign Affairs Sarkhaaj Aziz, Interior Minister Chodhry Nisar Ali Khan, Chief of the Army Staff (COAS) General Assfaq Pervez Kayani, Foreign Secretary Jahil baba Jilani, Special Assistant to the Prime Minister on Foreign Affairs Tariq Fat Emi and ISI Director General Lt Gen Zahareeul Hasan. The meeting was held to review the national security and took key decisions.
Sources said the political and military leadership was unanimous in their view that any foreign intervention in Pakistan’s affairs would not be tolerated. Held a few days before Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s proposed visit to the United States, the meeting discussed threadbare agenda of the visit, key national and regional issues, and strategy for talks with the Taliban. Sources said that the Adviser to the PM on National Security and Foreign Affairs Sarkhaaj Azziz gave a detailed briefing to the participants about the recently concluded visit of US Special Representative to Afghanistan-Pakistan James Dobbins.Sources quoted SarKhaaj Azziz as saying that during the meeting with Dobbins, detailed deliberations were held regarding the prime minister’s visit to the US. He further said that Pakistan’s reservations on the US policies in the region were openly expressed. The political and military leadership expressed its resentment over the allegations by India and Afghanistan involving Pakistan in terrorism, Indian and Afghan intervention in Pakistan and violations of ceasefire at the Line of Control (LoC).hey expressed their firm resolve not to interfere in the internal affairs of the neighbouring countries and not to allow them to meddle in Pakistan’s internal affairs. They expressed their determination to foil any attempt with full force by any country in the region to dominate Pakistan. The meeting decided to make it clear to the United States administration that it would be unacceptable for Pakistan to give the role of “policeman” to India in the region as it would adversely affect the already strained ties between the two neighbourly countries. The meeting also deliberated upon the proposed US-Afghanistan bilateral Security Agreement under which the Afghan government could seek US assistance for intervention in Pakistan in the event of any terror incident in Afghan soil. The participants declared that Pakistan would not accept this kind of agreement and if the country is made target of any such intervention it would be considered as an attack on the country. It was decided that Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, during his meeting with US President Obama, would forcefully raise issues regarding Afghan and Indian involvement in terror activities in Pakistan and would make it clear to him that the centres of terrorism are located in the two countries and not in Pakistan.
A military official informed the meeting that Afghan intelligence agency was engaged in terrorism in the entire country, especially Balochistan, and it was also funding banned outfits, including Tehreek-e-Taliban for their subversive activities.Officials said Sunday the long-delayed security deal on the future of US forces in Afghanistan is close to being completed, after marathon talks in Kabul between President Hamid Karzai and US Secretary of State John Kerry. Both sides said that the issue of US troop immunity remained a sticking pointing after intense efforts to hammer out a deal that would allow between 5,000 and 10,000 US soldiers to remain in Afghanistan after 2014. US officials travelling with Kerry said that only details of the Bilateral Security Agreement (BSA) had not been agreed, and that the US and Afghan teams would now review the draft document. agencies
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^^^
Why aim low with measly cars, when you can sacrifice Orions and fsolahs? :twisted:
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RCase wrote:^^^
Why aim low with measly cars, when you can sacrifice Orions and fsolahs? :twisted:
:rotfl: :lol:
Only if they are true Muslims.
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Pakistanis speak 400% Better English than Indians - A Myth like the "Flying Persian Carpet"!

Training deficits

The training of teachers in Pakistan has never been a priority for any government. Teachers are recruited on an adhoc basis, often lack even the most basic qualifications and have little or no training in teaching techniques and methodologies. In the private sector, there may be some qualitative difference in terms of teaching skills and competencies from government schools, but deficits are evident even there. Teaching in English medium has long been suspect in terms of quality and a new report entitled “Can English Medium Education work in Pakistan” and conducted in Punjab is damning in its evidence. More than half the 2,000 teachers at government primary and middle schools and an even higher proportion in the private sector, lack the ability to understand and use simple phrases or have any English fluency.

The government of Punjab announced in 2009 that English would be the medium of instruction in all government schools, yet today, 56 per cent of teachers have “no measurable standard of functional language ability”. Small wonder, then, that those who send their children to government schools in Punjab — and most do — are rarely impressed with the education their children receive. It is all very well making a policy statement that English is henceforward to be the medium of instruction, but unless that is backed up by relevant training for teachers, then the blame cannot be laid at the teacher’s door. There is a remedy and the mass training of teachers in Punjab with the government working with the British Council is now under way, and 28,000 teachers were trained in 2012 and another 30,000 in the last summer. Training 330,000 teachers for 15 million children is a five-year task and that is just in a single province. Similar training deficits, and not just in English medium, will be found in every province. For education to be effective, it has to be invested in, and good teachers are not plucked from trees. Better late than never as the proverb says.

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Heard Malala talk on some news channel and was very surprised , not only her english but the ascent , she has been getting a lot of training i guess, and she was in which school ???
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X Posted from the “Pakistani Role In Global Terrorism” thread.

British national with origins in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan is arrested in London for plotting a “Mumbai Style” act of Mohammadden Terrorism along with three other Mohammadden Terrorist accomplices with origins in Azerbaijan, Turkey and Algeria.

The involvement of individuals with origins in Pakistan, Azerbaijan, Turkey and Algeria demonstrates the widespread appeal of Mohammadden terrorism among the adherents of Mohammaddenim in the world:

Police foil 'Mumbai-style' terrorist plot in London, say security sources
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Two Mohammadden terrorists infiltrating into India from the Islamic Republic of Pakistan captured by our Army:

Army captures two infiltrating Pak militants
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Army jawan killed as Pakistan targets Indian posts along Poonch
An Army jawan was killed in unprovoked firing when Pakistani troops opened fire at Indian forward posts in Balakote sub-sector along the Line of Control (LoC) in Poonch district in what is stated to be the second ceasefire violation of the day and the eighth in less than a week.

Indian troops retaliated and heavy exchange of fire continued several hours after the firing that started at 5.30 pm from across the border, a Defence spokesman said on Tuesday night.

The jawan, who died after being hit by a mortar shell at a Forward Defence Location, was identified as Lance Naik MS Khan of 15 Bihar regiment, the spokesman said.

GOC 16 Corps Lieutenant General DS Hooda condoled the death of the jawan.

The spokesman said on Tuesday night’s ceasefire violation was the second of the day and the eighth in less than a week.

Earlier in the day, Pakistani Army resorted to shelling of mortars besides automatic and small arms firing in forward areas along LoC in Hamirpur and Bhimbher Gali (BG) sub-sectors of Poonch district from 0630 hours on Tuesday, the spokesman said.
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Anindya wrote:This Eid, sacrificial animals in Pakistan can cost more than a car
This year, the average price of a "qurbani" or sacrificial animal begins from 20,000 Pakistani rupees onwards and goes up to a princely sum of Rs 16 lakh - an amount that has left several appalled, considering a brand new car in Pakistan will cost only about Rs 7 lakh.

All the more reasons for more car bombs
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Peregrine wrote:Pakistanis speak 400% Better English than Indians - A Myth like the "Flying Persian Carpet"!

Training deficits
State of Pakistani english.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daAyWsqOknc
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Was new HC to London cleared by security agencies?
ISLAMABAD : A controversy has begun whether the just announced name of Kamran Shafi as the new high commissioner to UK was cleared by the security agencies. While sources said this has not been done, a PM’s House spokesman said no adverse report had been received, and Mr Shafi himself says he does not know about any such issue.
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Friday now on Wednesday

KP law minister among eight killed in DI Khan suicide attack

PESHAWAR : At least eight people, including Khyber Pakhtunkhwa law minister Israrullah Gandapur, were killed Wednesday when a suicide bomber exploded outside his residence in Dera Ismail Khan, police said.

According to eyewitnesses, the provincial law minister was exchanging Eid greetings with people outside his residence when the suicide bomber detonated his suicide vest.

Deputy superintendent of police in Kullachi, Bahawal Khan, confirmed the minister's death.

Police said at least seven other people were killed and 20 were wounded in the explosion.

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From the above it says that the minister was:
a decent Pashtun
That should bring out howls of protests from pashtoons who are deemed indecent, if any.
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Energy leap: PM Nawaz declares energy emergency
Chairing a high-level meeting, the prime minister said he expected the authorities concerned to work on a ‘war footing’ to overcome the prevailing energy crisis.
Meanwhile, the Punjab government agreed to set up a power project at Port Qasim.
Another coal-based power project will be kickstarted in Jamshoro, Sindh, and completed with the help of the Asian Development Bank in two years, the prime minister was told.
He was also informed about the government’s medium-term initiatives to overcome power shortages that include the wind energy generation project of 2,000 megawatts (MW) to be completed by 2016, the 1,000-MW CASA project to be completed by 2017, the Tarbela-V extension project also to set up by 2017 and the development of 1,000MW power project at Quaid-e-Azam Solar Park by the government of Punjab.
Though no decision was made on gas load-shedding during winter the premier said he would summon a cabinet meeting on October 26 to consider the issue.
There, now Pakistan will be an energy surplus country by 2017! :rotfl:
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just when you think paquis cannot get any sicker

A couple who trafficked a 10-year-old girl to the UK who was repeatedly raped and kept as a domestic servant for nearly a decade have been convicted.

Ilyas and Tallat Ashar brought the girl, who is deaf, from Pakistan and kept her at their home in Eccles, Salford, where she slept in the cellar.

Ilyas Ashar, 84, was also found guilty of 13 counts of raping the girl, now in her 20s, who was found in 2009.
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Al Bakistan according to Uncyclopaedia er...pedia. Enjoy.
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Poor girl... Damn, there is no punishment for these people that will match the crime. ...
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JE Menon wrote:Poor girl... Damn, there is no punishment for these people that will match the crime. ...
Being born in that country or being of the country is punishment enough.
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Barri Dair Karri Candawala: Terri Rah Takke yeh Malala
Baar Baar Mushyan Sey Pooche, Kanha Hai Visa Wala
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Malala to be offered honorary Canadian Visa
Its About Time: Visa Qabool Karo
OTTAWA: Malala Yousafzai, the 16-year-old activist who was shot by the Taliban for championing girls’ rights to education, will be offered honorary Canadian citizenship, a government source said Wednesday.The announcement is expected in a speech later in the day outlining the Canadian government’s upcoming legislative agenda, according to the senior official.Malala will become just the sixth person to be granted honorary Canadian citizenship, following in the footsteps of Swedish diplomat Raoul Wallenberg, Nelson Mandela, the Dalai Lama, Aung San Suu Kyi and the Aga Khan.Malala was shot in the head by the Pakistani Taliban on October 9, 2012, for speaking out against them, demanding that girls be given the right to go to school.
She was subsequently flown to Britain for specialist care and made a remarkable recovery, going on to become a global ambassador for children’s rights.Malala has also written an autobiography, addressed the United Nations and set up a fund.Last week, she won the European Union’s prestigious Sakharov human rights prize and was welcomed to the White House by US President Barack Obama.
Canadian Governor General David Johnston, in his Throne Speech, is also expected to list the economy and trade, crime fighting and consumer rights as the government’s main focus in the months ahead.
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SSridhar wrote:US-India can't stop funding for JuD : Saeed - Meena Menon, The Hindu
Our entire funding is from the people and they trust us — they believe in our work — our organisation is registered with the government and the accounts are audited regularly,” he said.
Is Hafiz Saeed saying that the average Paki is a terror financier in a personal capacity?
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